AT RANDOM: MIDDLEMEN

Robin Brownlee
July 03 2014 01:47PM

I don't see the debate about how the Edmonton Oilers should fill the holes they have on their roster at centre in terms of black and white when it comes to how or if Leon Draisaitl fits into the equation next season. I find myself pulled between preference and practicality.

Call it sitting on the fence if you like, but as we sit here during the first week of July, I don't think there's a hard and fast answer as to whether Draisaitl should be in the mix when the puck drops on 2014-15. I weighed in on the issue in my last item here.

In terms of preference, there's a reasonable case to be made Draisaitl should be returned to Prince Albert of the WHL next season, no matter what. Don't rush the kid. Don't burn a year of his entry level contract. Jason Strudwick of TSN 1260, for example, made the case on his show and on Twitter Wednesday. David Staples of The Cult of Hockey says the same.

I get where they're coming from. I just can't embrace the "no matter what" part of the argument on a day that Draisaitl took his first twirl on the ice as a member of the Oilers at a development camp in Jasper. I'm in the wait-and-see camp.

LET IT PLAY OUT

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I can't sit here today and tell you with a straight face Draisaitl is ready to play in the NHL next season. Likewise, I can't say for certain he won't be ready when the puck drops. I don't know. Do you?

I don't think Draisaitl should be handed a roster spot because he's a third overall pick. I don't care about the optics. I don't think he should make the team by default because after first-liner Ryan Nugent-Hopkins and utility man Boyd Gordon, the Oilers are woefully thin down the middle.

As I wrote June 28, even if Draisaitl gives strong indications he's not in over his head, I don't want to see him force-fed into a second-line role. At the very least, GM Craig MacTavish has to find a proven NHL centre – easier said than done – who can provide a buffer and split the ice that's up for grabs time between RNH and Gordon.

Whether Draisaitl sticks in Edmonton or is returned to Prince Albert, the bottom line for me is that the Oilers will be making a mistake if they don't at least let him compete for a job before making a decision based on merit. Let this play out.

WHILE I'M AT IT

Berglund

  • Jonathan Willis took a thorough look at centre Patrik Berglund of the St. Louis Blues as a possible target for the Oilers recently and I concur with his take. I like Berglund and I think he slots in behind RNH as a second/third-line option. The question, as always, is the ask.
  • I got plenty of reaction on Twitter Wednesday when I said I'd be willing to trade anybody not named Taylor Hall, RNH, Jordan Eberle, David Perron, Ben Scrivens, or Justin Schultz for Berglund. A lot of it was along the lines of "You'd trade Nail Yakupov?" Yes, yes I would. I recognize there's an element of risk, but I'm not as sold on Yakupov as many fans are. Not exactly trading him for a bag of pucks here.
  • A lot of people think Mark Fayne might be a pleasant surprise as an addition to Edmonton's blue line. Numbers like him, too. Haven't seen him enough to have a feel for him. As a low-cost depth player, I like the addition of Keith Aulie.

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#1 Robin Brownlee
July 03 2014, 02:08PM
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geno wrote:

Berglund's a 3rd line centre...so uh ya....you're selling low on your 20 year old 1st overall pick. We know how you feel on Yak. You thought trading him for Clarkson was a good idea in 2013. Not sure if you're anti-Russian or just anti-logic

Like I said, there's risk in moving a player as young as Yakupov, but I see enough I don't like in his game that I'd be willing to make the move -- as I said I would for Clarkson (in the scenario Gregor put forth) before the horrid season he just had.

I think Berglund is capable of taking on more minutes here. Perhaps not as a full-blown 2nd line centre right away, but in the 2/3 role I mentioned. By the way, Berglund has averaged more minutes as the third-line centre you peg him as than Yakupov has in his roles here.

Feel free to disagree with the premise, but spare me the anti-Russian/anti-logic bit.

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#2 Sorensenator
July 03 2014, 02:02PM
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geno wrote:

Berglund's a 3rd line centre...so uh ya....you're selling low on your 20 year old 1st overall pick. We know how you feel on Yak. You thought trading him for Clarkson was a good idea in 2013. Not sure if you're anti-Russian or just anti-logic

What are you talking about? Clarkson was a UFA last year, there was no trading anything for him.

I have been trying to hammer this into people for quite some time, Yakupov, as skilled as he may be, and all the potential he possesses is still adding the same dimension to the team they already have..more or less, even if he turns it around.

We need a different make up in our top 9. Yes we added Pouliot and Purcell however those type of players are not seen down the middle in Edmonton. Yakupov could fetch that type of centre man in Patrick Berglund.

Bring in sometime you don't have, and move out something you have plenty of..... DUH?

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#3 Glory Days
July 03 2014, 02:22PM
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I agree with you RB. I don't like what I see in Yaks game and he IS redundant on our team even if I did like what I see. I don't understand why so many fans like Yak so much. I'd take a guy like Arcobello, or Bergland, over Yakalov any day and twice on Sunday.

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#4 yaaaaaaa
July 03 2014, 02:16PM
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trade for vinny lecavalier. shouldn't be too hard. can teach the kids something. former cup winner. Nuge - Lecavalier - Draisaitl - Gordon isn't a bad centre line up

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#5 shaner
July 03 2014, 01:51PM
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I agree with the take of getting Backlund. What do you think of trying to sign Legwand as a centre option?

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#6 Fresh Mess
July 03 2014, 03:03PM
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pelhem grenville wrote:

Yak for Berglund OR Couturier and 2015 second...logical

You'd be lucky to find an NHL GM who would give up a second rounder for Yakupov.

Berglund or Couturier plus a second for Yak is Oiler zealot fantasy.

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#7 Fresh Mess
July 03 2014, 02:53PM
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geno wrote:

Berglund's a 3rd line centre...so uh ya....you're selling low on your 20 year old 1st overall pick. We know how you feel on Yak. You thought trading him for Clarkson was a good idea in 2013. Not sure if you're anti-Russian or just anti-logic

Exactly, Berglund's a 3rd line big young NHL centre. Yakupov is a minor leaguer.

Sooo, let's see. What to call me today? Xenophobe? Ageist? I'm sure you'll think of something.

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#8 Lowe Expectations
July 03 2014, 03:19PM
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Yakupov was a poor pick at #1. If he doesn't get his game turned around (and that is a definite possibility) I would expect him to got to the KHL once his entry level deal is finished. That means the Oilers get nothing for him & a #1 overall pick was completely wasted.

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#9 Sorensenator
July 03 2014, 03:26PM
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Scrivy wrote:

You're losing your touch Brownlee.

You'd trade Yak for Berglund? A soon top line winger for a 3C? Can I get that in writing so I can remind you of it 1.5 years from now?

I would not even trade Petry for Berglund.

If only there was a way to rate the relative value of players......back to JWillis' articles...

I'd trade him for Berglund and a 2nd rounder. If Oiler fans want to wait another 2 years to see if Yakupov turns it around then your taking up a roster spot of a player that can actually help this team.

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#10 Fresh Mess
July 03 2014, 03:39PM
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@pelhem grenville

Of course he's a minor leaguer. His play was not even close to NHL level. Draft position is irrelevant. Daigle, Barker, Stefan ?

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#11 Fresh Mess
July 03 2014, 02:37PM
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Excellent take.

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#12 KozyMel
July 03 2014, 09:26PM
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@BorjeSalming-IanTurnbull

It`s not "if" RNH gets hurt, it's when.

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#13 Greg the Hammer Valentine
July 03 2014, 04:32PM
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Yakupov for Berglund = bad move

Yakupov for Couturier = good move

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#14 geno
July 03 2014, 01:49PM
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Berglund's a 3rd line centre...so uh ya....you're selling low on your 20 year old 1st overall pick. We know how you feel on Yak. You thought trading him for Clarkson was a good idea in 2013. Not sure if you're anti-Russian or just anti-logic

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#15 HallFever
July 03 2014, 02:35PM
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Wouldn't Gernat or Musil + a 3rd round pick get it done for Berglund? I would also consider Klefbom if needed.

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#16 pelhem grenville
July 03 2014, 02:57PM
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Yak for Berglund OR Couturier and 2015 second...logical

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#17 Jasmine
July 03 2014, 05:33PM
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@Woogie63

Gagner was run out of town by Oilers fans.

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#18 Fresh Mess
July 03 2014, 03:00PM
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thekid wrote:

I believe the word most people would use is "dullard".

OH..oh....Damn, you blindsided me with that.

That hurts.

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#19 BorjeSalming-IanTurnbull
July 03 2014, 02:22PM
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If MacT can't bring in a center he has failed as a GM. Ever since he was hired we've been constantly begging the Oilers to bring in a NHL centerman. The biggest need on the team for two years,two free agency periods and nothing to show. If RNH and Gordon get hurt we are playing meaningless hockey before christmas again.

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#20 Harlie
July 03 2014, 07:14PM
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Dockstaff wrote:

HELL NO! Start watching Sports Centre!

Listen to any of the experts, MacKenzie, Dreger, Ron McLean... Lecavalier is not a leader. They gave him the C in TBay and it turned out to be a disaster. He is reported to be the first off the ice at practice and often skips optional skates. He won't teach anything but bad habits and why someone else can back check.

So he acts like Hemsky, plays Center and can beat up or hold his own with Iginla.

Yeah, Sportscenter is right, we don't want him.

I remember when Calgary traded Bourque and I wanted him, then he stood out on the playoffs after everyone wrote him off. Don't be too quick to judge..

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#21 Gordie Wayne
July 03 2014, 02:21PM
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jonrmcleod wrote:

You do realize there's a salary cap, right?

Let's see...

1. Mueller at 1.75 million per year

2. Winnik for 3.0 million per year

3. Trade Petry for Coburn (4.5 million per year)

Oilers at 66.5 million (2.5 million under cap) - enough to sign Schultz to a short bridge at 2 years at 5 million or less.

Also, that is with 3 million in bonuses that can be rolled to next year if they want more room.

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#22 Spoils
July 03 2014, 02:38PM
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Depth in center is not optional in the NHL. We DO NOT have it.

Also our pick next year shouldn't be on D since they take too long to develop and this team has potential to come online sooner.

So - how do we use assets to get a solid D (can wait a bit) AND depth at Center (which we need now).

we will have to make some bold moves.

e.g. Yak + something for a true #1D prospect e.g. Perron + something for a #2/#3C

Perron has high value right now. Yak is a risk because his value may have a lot further to fall if he doesn't pan out, than it does to go up.

The Avs traded all three of their #1 overalls before winning the cup.

Obviously you offer less if you can (I like the comments about 3rd rd picks etc. for Berglund, but ultimately this is about having the right pieces.

BOLD MOVES.

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#23 Woogie63
July 03 2014, 02:43PM
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I think I would rather have

1C RNH 2/3C Gagner 3/2C Horcoff 4C Gordon

than

1C RNH 2C ???? 3C Drasaitl 4C Gordon

for 2014/15. I don't care about the cap and term ... I want want to watch some winning hockey.

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#24 Serious Gord
July 03 2014, 03:10PM
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"Don't burn a year of his entry level contract. "

This is the key to long term success. Make the prospect spend the year of development on their dime as it were rather than the oil's.

Signing Berglund at a premium seems fine to me - more bucks with less term and let him have a nmc - if he is a disappointment he will probably want to waive it anyway. Especially as it keeps draisaitl in the minors.

And even more so with the signing of aulie - blowing 800,000 on a Eakins project seems to be okay with mgmt.

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#25 Jasmine
July 03 2014, 05:44PM
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@Jonathan Willis

Players were run out of town when Slats was here, too.

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#26 Woogie63
July 03 2014, 09:45PM
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Why didn't we just trade a 5th pick for Purcell and keep Gagner to help Drisaital grow into 2c?

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#27 Reg Dunlop
July 03 2014, 09:49PM
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I guess it's human nature to overvalue assets that you have some attachment to, like Yak. The lesson learned as to the actual value of Gagner must be applied here. Last season, Yak was the worst player in the league and his comments and actions are sure to cause dressing room discord. Holding on to him, waiting for his value to skyrocket when he hits 40 goals is a possibility but not very likely. He still has some cache in some circles, the best bet is to deal him there before we have to tie $100 to him to get any bites, like Gagner.

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#28 99
July 03 2014, 02:40PM
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We aren't going to make the playoffs with this roster this year or next. I see us finishing 10th at best. The west is too strong. So let the prospect pool develop because it will pay sweet dividends when they do get to the big show.

Marincin and Klefbom should play top pairing minutes in the AHL this year. Graduate them next year. I think Nurse should at the very least play a full AHL season before he makes a jump into the NHL. So that means he would debut 2016-17 season. Each of these d-man should get adequate PP, PK, and EV time to develop into a 1st pairing d-man. Although each of them were considered top 4 guys, proper development can do wonders. I think we can have 3 legit top pairing d-man with these 3 its just a matter of giving them time to learn the pro game at their own pace. Its amazing what confidence can do for a kid.

Same should go for Leon. Although he has the size, he should not make his debut into the NHL till 2016-17 as well. He went third overall for a reason in what was considered a weak draft in comparison to prior years. The Oil organization really need to show that they've learnt from the Gagner experiment. Let him play Junior this year. Plug him in as a 1C in the AHL the following year and then bring him up.

If we take the slow and steady route of development, Nurse and Leon will be ready to make big contribution when they do enter the league as opposed to struggling the first couple years.

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#29 jonrmcleod
July 03 2014, 02:16PM
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Gordie Wayne wrote:

I like what MacT has done so far...if I am him, this is what I do next:

1. Sign 6'2 205 lbs. former 8th overall pick Peter Mueller for cheap short term contract (1.5 to 2 million per for 1 to 2 years). The other decent C available in UFA just don't do it for me (Ott was -38 last year, Roy is small although is a point producer, and Legwand likely wants too much term and money).

2. Sign one of Winnik or David Moss as depth winger for 2.5 to 3 million (we need penalty killers).

3. If MacT is set on trading Petry, then it needs to be for an upgrade at D. Say Petry + prospect like Musil + a 2nd/3rd rd pick for a decent top pairing dman for the team (like Byfgliuen or Coburn or ????)

You do realize there's a salary cap, right?

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#30 Ed in Edmonton
July 03 2014, 03:52PM
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Whitey31 wrote:

So if i had a garage full of sports cars and I need a truck, I should just trade my brand new Ferrari (considering the price we paid for him) for an F-150...DUH? Maybe if i was getting 4 of them, but Berglund straight up is ridiculous.

I understand the frustration that Nail brings to certain fans as we all hoped he would be better (becoming an Oilers logic), but if he was drafted by a team with depth do you think he would have even played yet? Did you have an issue with his 1st season?

The same people that want to throw Yak under the bus are the same ones that think Leon should go back to juniors..just think about that for a sec?

To extend your analogy, if the F-150 results in you progressing your business so you make enough money so you can get as many sport's cars as you may want....

We also don't yet know if Yak is a Ferrari or an Edsel (or some where in between).

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#31 GriffCity
July 03 2014, 02:20PM
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IF we traded Yak for Berglund, one of two things would almost certainly happen. Either Yak goes to STL and explodes for 30-40 goals and everyone goes back to believing he is a legit #1 overall OR Berglund comes to EDM and craps the bed.

Its not worth the risk at this point to move Yak until he has another terrible season and we trade him for a puck bag. Right?

Its actually a bad situation for the Oilers, and given their track record of the majority of trades over the last handful of years, one would think that either way the Oilers are going to end up getting screwed in the ear.

I would see if they can throw an offer sheet to Steve Ott for 1 year at about 1.8 - 2.5 mil and see if it has traction. Not the best offensive guy but like Hendricks, Ott brings an edge every night and is hard to play against. That is after all exactly what we said needed to be improved upon to compete in the West is it not?

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#32 The Swarm
July 03 2014, 02:58PM
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I am not sure if anyone bothered to check Arco's stats while he was playing in the top 6.

Gagner came back from injury in Game 14. Prior to that Arco had 10 points in 13 games. Extrapolated that puts him with 63 pts over and 82 game season, or in the top 20 for Centres in the league.

Yes it's a small sample size, but it would be more representative of what to expect from him in the 2C spot, rather than looking at his entire 41 games, where for the last 28 games he was not in the top 6 and playing guys like Joensu and Gazdic.

So 10 points in 13 games. Wins face-offs. Responsible in his own end.

He makes $600,000.

If this is not a money ball pick, I am not sure what is?

We all know why he was moved out of the top 6 and it certainly was not based on merit.

The guy can play and is an NHL'er. Full stop.

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#33 Oilers G- Nations Poet Laureate
July 03 2014, 03:10PM
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I've said it once, I'll say it again...

David Musil, Dillion Simpson and a 2nd rd 2015 pick for Berglund

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#34 Dwayne Roloson 35
July 03 2014, 10:08PM
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The Last Big Bear wrote:

Everyone who is calmly talking about whether or not Arcobello should be a 2nd line centre in the western conference...

You are on drugs. BAD drugs.

I'm just going to go ahead and list the 2nd line centres in the western conference today, and you tell me when you see guys who are clearly behind Arcobello. This shoud be illuminating:

Mike Richards

Joe Pavelski

Brad Richards

Ryan Kesler

Tyler Seguin

Sean Monahan

David Backes

Matt Duchene

Ryan Johansen

Markus Granlund

Sam Gagner

Nick Bonino

Whoever the heck Winnipeg is dressing,

I'll cut to the chase. RNH has to wake up early and eat his Wheaties to stay in the top half of that list. He has upside, but that's where he is now.

Show me a team that dresses Mark Arcobello as 2C, and I'll show you the team that finishes last in the conference. And some of you may still think that's a viable strategy, but 8 years of sucking hard and drafting high has resulted in a situation where Mark Arcobello is the 2nd best centre on the team.

do you follow hockey? some of those guys are wingers and a lot of them are first line players. one who was a 4th liner last year.

Arcobello was solid on the faceoffs in the second line role winngng 51%. he had a corsi that was actually outshooting the opposition when he was on the ice unlike our entire team. he lead our team in hits before he left for the AHL where he dominated.

dont know why youre knocking the nuge when this is his first full offseason to train because of injuries.

nuge will be better and arco can be a stop gap C until Draisaitl emerges or we sign someone.

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#35 Reinman
July 04 2014, 12:57AM
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Pucker wrote:

Too early to give up on Yak. I agree with an earlier poster. I think Robin is trolling.

We certainly need a centre but Berglund isn't going to get us into the playoffs. Sign Legwand or find a stop-gap centre.

Scary thing is that Yak thinks he is playing OK.

I would trade him before he loses his value.

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#36 Ed in Edmonton
July 03 2014, 02:27PM
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Berglund may have been a 3rd line center in St. Loo, but would fit as No2 with the Oil and that's what makes him attractive.

If in a couple of years RNH and LD progress to fully competent 1 & 2 centers, Berglund goes back No 3 and all is good in the universe.

It might be time for a "bold move".

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#37 DieHard
July 03 2014, 02:37PM
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Yak for Berglund is the dumbest trade you've suggested. True, Yak has issues but you can do better than Berglund. I'd give 2015 2nd for him though.

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#38 DieHard
July 03 2014, 03:20PM
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Oilers G- Nations Poet Laureate wrote:

I've said it once, I'll say it again...

David Musil, Dillion Simpson and a 2nd rd 2015 pick for Berglund

Just drop Simpson and you got a deal.

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#39 Craig1981
July 03 2014, 03:27PM
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Gordie Wayne wrote:

Does anyone else think we need more penalty killers on this team? Our top 5 for in avg PK time per game last year for forwards: Hendricks, Gordon, Acton, Lander, Smyth

This isn't going to cut it...we need a guy like Winnik.

And before anyone says Berglund is the answer to this too, he was 6th highest forward on Blues in PK time per game.

I disgree with Winnik. I like the 4th line with Gordon, Henricks, and Pitlick/Gadzic. So Winnik isn't needed as much (Though I like him as a player)

I do think a solid 2 way center would work (though Arco was OK in that roll) I have to believe one of Hall, Eberle, Perron, Poilot, can learn to kill penalties.

.....thought wouldn't Coglino look nice on the 3rd line and then to of taken Ryan Murray instead of Yak.

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#40 Scrivy
July 03 2014, 02:53PM
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You're losing your touch Brownlee.

You'd trade Yak for Berglund? A soon top line winger for a 3C? Can I get that in writing so I can remind you of it 1.5 years from now?

I would not even trade Petry for Berglund.

If only there was a way to rate the relative value of players......back to JWillis' articles...

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#41 Serious Gord
July 03 2014, 03:13PM
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And as for fayne - it should be seen as a real test of the strength of the EDM pro scouting; if he fails it should be pinned on them.

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#42 RexHolez
July 03 2014, 03:13PM
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after only 2 years youre not sold on yak and willing to trade him for Berglund? dont worry, he'll change youre mind!

if Draisaitl comes in and looks better than Nuge. SEND HIM BACK TO JUNIORS!! no ones ever been hurt with more time to develop, and no rush burning a year of his elc already.

id hate to rush him then trade him for a Berglund in 2 years

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#43 I Remember the Orange Jerseys
July 03 2014, 03:50PM
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Taking into consideration that he will likely play sheltered minutes on the third line, and that he’ll have Ramsay coaching him rather than Bucky, I strongly suspect Yak will have a far better year this coming season.

Nonetheless, there’s no player currently on the roster that I’m more torn about. He could potentially become an elite scorer, but he could just as likely become a prima donna and bolt for the KHL at the end of his ELC if he’s unhappy with his circumstances.

That said, if I was in MacT’s shoes, and I could get a reasonably young 1-2 center, or a 1-3 defender for Yak, plus or minus a combination of picks and prospects, depending on who’s coming back this way, I’d be willing to roll the dice and send him packing.

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#44 BobbyCanuck
July 03 2014, 04:59PM
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I think MacT has done a fine job so far this off-season. Our quest for a 2C may end up as 'a selling the farm' situation.

Would it be worth it? We still have very little depth, and will not have the bench strenght to be considered a contender for a couple of more years. Like previous seasons, one key injury, and our season is toast.

So why not rotate the prospects through out the year, it will help them figure out as to what level thier game needs to at to stay in the NHL. Especially bring them up during the last 20 games of the season, you remember that time of year? The time which seperates the boys from the men, our prospects will quickly learn the difference between the regular season, and play-off hockey expectations.

I do not think we will make the play-offs this coming season, nor do i think we will win the Cup the following season, so why trade away your potential for a quick fix today?...

If we compete everynight, and hopefully win half our games, I would be ecstatic.

I would pull the trigger on a trade:

Crosby for Eberle and Yakipov Subben or D.Kieth for Petry and Yak

Laugh all you want, we traded away the greatest (argue this all you want) player in NHL history, would it not be nice to be on the recieving end of the same?

Otherwise, what is the point? Let the kids play, some will play themselves into proper NHL stars, others maybe career journymen. To soon to tell.

I am just happy that next year we will be playing meaningful games past Novemenber 15.

Yeah yeah, does not take much for me to put on my rose-coloured glasses. But this time, its gonna be different, this year we will earn respect

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#45 Pucker
July 03 2014, 07:57PM
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Too early to give up on Yak. I agree with an earlier poster. I think Robin is trolling.

We certainly need a centre but Berglund isn't going to get us into the playoffs. Sign Legwand or find a stop-gap centre.

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#46 Smokey
July 03 2014, 08:57PM
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Sorensenator wrote:

Berglund is someone you could get right now for Yakupov straight up, easily, and maybe with a prospect or draft pick thrown in. We all know Yakupov will turn into a better player then he was last year. Even his first season is an example of what he is capable is. It's all frustrating.

Theres a mental bealth clinic downtown Edmonton you should check yourself into.

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#47 Gordie Wayne
July 03 2014, 02:06PM
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I like what MacT has done so far...if I am him, this is what I do next:

1. Sign 6'2 205 lbs. former 8th overall pick Peter Mueller for cheap short term contract (1.5 to 2 million per for 1 to 2 years). The other decent C available in UFA just don't do it for me (Ott was -38 last year, Roy is small although is a point producer, and Legwand likely wants too much term and money).

2. Sign one of Winnik or David Moss as depth winger for 2.5 to 3 million (we need penalty killers).

3. If MacT is set on trading Petry, then it needs to be for an upgrade at D. Say Petry + prospect like Musil + a 2nd/3rd rd pick for a decent top pairing dman for the team (like Byfgliuen or Coburn or ????)

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#48 HallFever
July 03 2014, 02:26PM
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You just can't trade Yak now. The pain we went through to get him at number 1 and to trade him now would be a big mistake. You need to give him at least 2 more years to know if he is the real deal. It won't take Yak to get Berglund. The Blues need to shed salary. Give Yak a Center like Berglund to play with and you will see a big improvement with that alone.

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#49 Chunkylover69@google.ca
July 03 2014, 03:24PM
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The Swarm wrote:

I am not sure if anyone bothered to check Arco's stats while he was playing in the top 6.

Gagner came back from injury in Game 14. Prior to that Arco had 10 points in 13 games. Extrapolated that puts him with 63 pts over and 82 game season, or in the top 20 for Centres in the league.

Yes it's a small sample size, but it would be more representative of what to expect from him in the 2C spot, rather than looking at his entire 41 games, where for the last 28 games he was not in the top 6 and playing guys like Joensu and Gazdic.

So 10 points in 13 games. Wins face-offs. Responsible in his own end.

He makes $600,000.

If this is not a money ball pick, I am not sure what is?

We all know why he was moved out of the top 6 and it certainly was not based on merit.

The guy can play and is an NHL'er. Full stop.

You are completely right! He showed to much great play last year to think a German child will walk in and take what's his. He showed Gagner who he is and he will show the new kid as well. I have a great feeling about this arco fella! Either a for real bonafide 2nd C comes in or Arco will have more time to prove he belongs...

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#50 pelhem grenville
July 03 2014, 03:43PM
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Danger Pay wrote:

Breaking News!!! Yak has changed his number from 64 to 10 for the up coming season. So that should be the end of that trade Yak stuff!!! Problem Solved. *dusts off hands and goes back to trolling the internet*

...he needs to double his 24 point output make his plus minus come down to zero...THEN he can stay...

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