Oilers trade Erik Cole for Patrick O’Sullivan Ales Kotalik

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I got really excited when I saw the words “four-way,” but then I realized it was followed by the word “trade.” After that, I was only sort of excited.

I was mostly following the action on Twitter because ther’s no functional TV here at work, and I didn’t want the boss to see TSN.ca or the Score open on my browser all day. Still here are the relevant details on the trade (from TSN.ca):

The Edmonton Oilers got busy late in the proceedings on NHL trade deadline day as they have acquired forward Patrick O’Sullivan in a pair of deals involving four teams. […] The Oilers were not done there as they sent a second round draft pick to the Buffalo Sabres for forward Ales Kotalik.

And here’s a gem for you. Lynda Steele from Global Edmonton posted this on Twitter. Dean Millard when he found out about the trade:

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So, Wanye’s pissed about this trade, and it seems like a bunch of others are pretty ok with it. Is this good for the Oil? Does this improve our playoff hopes? Have no effect at all? Tell me what you think in the comments…

  • I'm a Scientist!

    Love the trades.

    For those complaining about O'Sullivan's size – who cares? Currently we have small guys who can't score (ie. Robert Nilsson and company). If the guy can put the puck in the net and set up some plays, I wouldn't care if the guy was the size of Sergei Puckizin.

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    Jack "FMNF" Bauer wrote:

    I want to know whose pick the second round to Buffalo is. Is it the Carloina/LA/Calgary pic, or is it Edmonton’s 2nd round pic? If its the C/LA/C pic that we get, and have to give up our own 2nd round pic, thats very very good.

    It looks like its LA's which is good because 2nd round is reverse order than the 1st(the team that picks 30th gets the 31st pick/1st 2nd rounder) as we will almost 100% finish ahead of LA its better to have our 2nd than theirs.

    If it was Calgarys originally than that's not as good but oh well.

    I'm not sold on the Kotalik rental but if he develops some chemistry with Hemsky and he can be resigned that might change.

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    Trading with Buffalo huh…I guess that the Oil braintrust (Lowe/Tambi/MacT) and Buffy's (Regier/Ruff) have kissed and made up.
    Didnt Regier vow to never speak to the Oil again for signing Vanek …or Buffy thinks they fleeced the Oil by getting a 2nd rounder for Kotalik.

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    Colin wrote:

    Jack “FMNF” Bauer wrote:

    I want to know whose pick the second round to Buffalo is. Is it the Carloina/LA/Calgary pic, or is it Edmonton’s 2nd round pic? If its the C/LA/C pic that we get, and have to give up our own 2nd round pic, thats very very good.
    It looks like its LA’s which is good because 2nd round is reverse order than the 1st(the team that picks 30th gets the 31st pick/1st 2nd rounder) as we will almost 100% finish ahead of LA its better to have our 2nd than theirs.
    If it was Calgarys originally than that’s not as good but oh well.
    I’m not sold on the Kotalik rental but if he develops some chemistry with Hemsky and he can be resigned that might change.

    Uh since when did the draft go in reverse order in the 2nd round? lol…

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    Colin wrote:

    Jack “FMNF” Bauer wrote:
    I want to know whose pick the second round to Buffalo is. Is it the Carloina/LA/Calgary pic, or is it Edmonton’s 2nd round pic? If its the C/LA/C pic that we get, and have to give up our own 2nd round pic, thats very very good.
    It looks like its LA’s which is good because 2nd round is reverse order than the 1st(the team that picks 30th gets the 31st pick/1st 2nd rounder) as we will almost 100% finish ahead of LA its better to have our 2nd than theirs.
    If it was Calgarys originally than that’s not as good but oh well.
    I’m not sold on the Kotalik rental but if he develops some chemistry with Hemsky and he can be resigned that might change.

    pardon?

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    @ sittingatmydesk:

    The Oilers have Jacques and Reddox. I know, I know, they are poor substitutes for Moreau and the gaping hole we already had. But it's great that Pisani got back when he did and I think Jacques has what it takes to punish opponents. The only question marks are Kotalik and Stortini.

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    Antony Ta wrote:

    @ sittingatmydesk:
    The Oilers have Jacques and Reddox. I know, I know, they are poor substitutes for Moreau and the gaping hole we already had. But it’s great that Pisani got back when he did and I think Jacques has what it takes to punish opponents. The only question marks are Kotalik and Stortini.

    Well not the only question marks, but in terms of wingers, I mean.

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    Jack "FMNF" Bauer wrote:

    I want to know whose pick the second round to Buffalo is. Is it the Carloina/LA/Calgary pic, or is it Edmonton’s 2nd round pic? If its the C/LA/C pic that we get, and have to give up our own 2nd round pic, thats very very good.

    It was Carolina's pick. The Oilers recieved Carolina's 2nd rounder and then used that to get Kotalik from Buffalo.

    Ducey wrote:

    Really, they have Poo, Robert N and JFJ in the press box with Smacintyre when Reddox plays. Brule, Potulny, Stone with Schremp on the farm. All these guys (except Schremp) will be on 1 ways next year won’t they?

    Stone's contract is done after this year. MacIntyre is on a two-way deal next year, and Schremp and Potulny are RFAs.

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    Antony Ta wrote:

    The only question marks are Kotalik and Stortini.

    What is your question mark about Stortini? He is a very solid 4th line contributor. His game has really improved. Not sure how you can say for a moment he is more of a question that Jacques.

    Kotalik will play with Hemsky and Horcoff. Hemsky was the one who told him he was coming to Edmonton. Hemsky called him before anyone from the Sabres or Oilers contacted him.

    Hemsky and he are good buddies, and Hemsky wants to play with him. Kotalik has a bomb of a shot, and this move should re-energize Hemsky, who has been a bit lacklustre as of late. This team needs the #1 to carry them lots of nights if they are going anywhere.

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    Jason Gregor wrote:

    Hemsky and he are good buddies, and Hemsky wants to play with him. Kotalik has a bomb of a shot, and this move should re-energize Hemsky, who has been a bit lacklustre as of late. This team needs the #1 to carry them lots of nights if they are going anywhere.

    That is good news, especially if he's an UFA after this season.

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    Joe wrote:

    Zamboni Driver wrote:
    Okay here’s the elephant in the room.
    O’Sullivan is one of these kids whose dad was a nutjob. Restraining order against the dad, I believe.
    How well adjusted is he these days? I guess no way of knowing until he gets here.

    He’s actually very well adjusted. He doesn’t like to be grilled about his father too much, but he is a class act himself. A bit timid at times, but the guy’s got a heart the size of my head. He’s going to be a great addition.

    For our sake I hope your head (Sullivan's heart) is the size of the guy on the Goonies…not the size of the guy on Beetlejuice…or we're screwed.

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    Now I hope MacT doesn't screw up the new players by playing them into his system which is "you will get numerous chances to play on top line if you play like Reddox and Horc". That is turning scorers into defensive-first players (like himself)…if when they cannot play D nor remember how to score (cause they are too busy playing a defensive role), that is when you take away their confidence by sitting them out and if that doesn't work. You lambaste them in the media until they are swimming in circles looking for their lost confidence while under the fish bowl lights of the Rexall crowd…

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    Kotalik is playing on the first line? For some reason I could see Sully fitting better with Horcoff and Hemsky while Cogs, Kotalik, and Penner play second.
    I guess we will see tomorrow.

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    This is a very good trade for the Oilers, indeed.

    O'Sullivan 'could' be the answer beside Hemsky we've been looking for for how many years now. He's not a plodder, doesn't just muck it up in front of the net or in the corner, but can get it done on the rush, like Hemsky, is immensely talented, and is supposed to have great vision on the ice. We'll find out soon enough…

    If it's Kotalik beside Hemsky he does have a couple things going for him already that everyone we have had beside him have not.
    He's a fellow countryman of Hemsky's, they're friends as a matter of fact, but most importantly, he's a one-shot scorer in my opinion.

    None of this assures either of them success, but it looks way better than any other Oiler we've tried in that spot before to me.

    I know McT is starting Ales Kotalik on Hemsky's other wing to start, and I think they could have some very good chemistry, as well. Either one of these two being a good fit, an actual, honest to goodness good fit with Hemsky for a change, would be an amazing feat for the Oilers.

    Penner, nope…even the dearly departed Smyth, as hard as he tried, wasn't a good fit on the other side with Hemsky. I love Nilsson but he hasn't panned out on the top line either. Everybody we've tried so far hasn't been a natural fit with him.

    I know he doesn't need to, especially not immediately, but I could see O'Sullivan eventually playing center on the Oilers top line instead of Horc…if he becomes better on faceoffs and is a natural there. I may be drunk on trade-talk right now, but here's a weird possibility…

    Kotalik-O'Sullivan-Hemsky on the Oiles top line,
    in the distant future, but that's assuming a lot of things…
    like what? Well…
    Kotalik would have to work out really well with Hemsky and then sign here long-term, etc. O'Sullivan would have to be better at center than Horcoff or any other Oiler by that time (Brule, Cog, Gagner, etc…) but I do believe one day the Oil will look to move a more talented center beside Hemsky, but not now.

    EITHER WAY, FINDING A WINGER TO PLAY WITH HEMSKY IS THE KEY TO THIS TRADE…now who will it be, Kotalik or O'Sullivan?

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    Two guys that can play on our top six and can shoot the puck for an impending UFA that was bound to walk at season's end anyway… I don't understand how anyone can have a problem with this deal.

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    O'Sully is speedy and a PK specialist; Kotalik has a BOMB of a shot and is a PP specialist. Looks like the scouts have done their homework! If Patty'O starts lighting that lamp consistantly, how long will it be before Kim Mitchel's song is dedicated to our newest addition? LETS GO OILERS!!