What would you do for a Klondike Bar?

Remember that jingle? This commercial illustrates just how easy it could be…

If life was only this easy, imagine what your lady friend would do if you cleared the whole table??? Dare to dream boys, dare to dream. Of course remember once you set that precedent then you’ll be expected to do it again. So weigh your options.

What would you do for Heatley Bar?

That is the question many teams will ponder for the next three weeks, since I expect the Sens to trade the former Calgary Canuck before his $4 million signing bonus is due on July 1st.

Oiler fans what would you give up for Heatley? While you ponder that, can you name the last Oiler to score 40 goals? (Answer at end of article).

I bet many of you can’t recall the last Oiler to pot 40, and it’s doubtful you’ll remember the year. Hell, some of you were still in diapers.

Yesterday I had Rob Daum, Perry Pearn and Clare Drake in studio. Daum had a great point about goal scoring. “It can change the outcome of a game more than any other element. It boosts your team, deflates the other, and can alter the entire game in a moment.”

The Oilers haven’t had anyone who can do that with regularity in a long time, and it is clear that their owner recognizes that.

I’ve been told that Daryl Katz is prepared to do whatever it takes to try and land Heatley. He has given Steve Tambellini the green light to put together a package that will ensure Bryan Murray doesn’t overlook them.

That doesn’t mean he will grossly overpay for Heatley, rather, it seems that he would be willing to hide a salary in the minors come October if that’s what it takes. Let’s just clarify that it won’t be Horcoff or Penner, because that is too big a price to pay in the minors, plus putting either player there makes no sense.

Basically the blessing is there for Tambellini not to worry about where everyone will fit when acquiring Heatley. It makes the GM’s job much easier if the owner gives him that sort of leeway.

The Oilers are also very interested in trying to land Jay Bouwmeester. Could they land both? Highly unlikely because the odds of trading for a top-three goal scorer and signing a top-ten D-man in the span of ten days are near impossible, but Katz is willing to pull out all the stops to ensure they get one.

Bouwmeester won’t cost any assets, but I’d still take Heatley over him right now. The Oilers have depth on the backend, but their scoring pool is thinner than Nicole Ritchie.

You can argue that Heatley is a one-trick pony, but he is damn good at his one trick. He scores goals and he does it well. The Oilers sign him and you can mark him down for 40 goals. They don’t have anyone who is a sure bet to even score 30 right now.

In the past four years he has scored 180 goals, 362 points and was a +82. Horcoff and Hemsky have combined for 151 goals in the same span.

He has more career PP goals (99) than every Oiler has career goals, excluding Horcoff (120) and Moreau (136).

Some argue he just finished an off year with 39 goals, but that still put him tied for 9th in the league and only one back of being tied for 5th. An off year for Heatley is a career year for 95% of the other players in the league.

I don’t think it is trade for Heatley at any cost, because if you deal Hemsky that doesn’t leave Heatley much to play with, but every other player should be on the table. Regardless of who it will cost, the fact Katz has given his GM his blessing to make it happen, means the Oilers are not just in the mix, they might end up stirring the drink.

ANSWER: Petr Klima was the last Oiler to score 40 when he potted 40 in 1990/1991.

Here are the years the Oilers had a 30-goal man since Garbage Pail (Klima) potted 40:

Smyth… 36… 2006
Comrie… 33… 2002
Smyth… 31… 2001
Guerin… 30… 1999
Smyth… 39 and Kovalenko 32… 1997
Ciger… 31… 1996
Arnott… 33… 1994
Klima… 32… 1993
Damphousse 38, and Murphy 35… 1992. Oilers had eight 20-goal scorers that year; Simpson 24, Mellanby 23, Klima 21, Nicholls 20, Buchberger 20 and Semenov 20.

  • speeds

    Jason Gregor wrote:

    speeds wrote:

    You can never say if a guy scores more goals in one team than another. Would Doug Weight have scored 100 points if he played somewhere other than Edmonton. Who knows. Look at Rolston’s numbers in Minnesota and when he left. He produced more in Minny?
    Fact is Heatley scores and stays healthy. Gaborik doesn’t. I don’t want a guy for 6 or 7 million playing half the time. Not worth it.

    If you want to argue that Heatley's a better fit because he stays healthier, as I said already, I think that's a fair argument.

    And it's true that sometimes players produce numbers that are different from the expectations you had. With Rolston it is a bit strange that his two best seasons were in MIN, my guess would be that he saw more PP time there than he had previously but that's only a guess from looking at his career PP goals by season:

    http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/r/rolstbr01.html

  • swany

    Jason Gregor wrote:

    Strickland’s post is much more vague now, it looks like he changed it, so I’m guessing nothing is happening right now, but I’m gonna make a call to LA just to be sure.

    Gregor if said trade is TRUE does this not open up a team for the Oilers to send Souray, if LA deals CFP and Nieds isn't comming back would the Ducks look at Souray? That would be ideal and we could just ask for picks/prospect this would pave the way to sign Jay-Bo and then send Gilbert, Cogs and another small roster player to the Sens for heatly. If Jay-bo would take a front loaded contract (alla Detriot) and a cap hit of 6 mil we only add 2.5 mil to our cap.

  • Archaeologuy

    @ Ogden Brother:
    Because those teams gambled short term they now need to get rid of a few of the players that actually made them a good team. You cant have every team be at the Cap Max and expect any of them to get better.

  • Ogden Brother

    Jason Gregor wrote:

    Strickland’s post is much more vague now, it looks like he changed it, so I’m guessing nothing is happening right now, but I’m gonna make a call to LA just to be sure.

    Archaeologuy wrote:

    @ Ogden Brother:
    Because those teams gambled short term they now need to get rid of a few of the players that actually made them a good team. You cant have every team be at the Cap Max and expect any of them to get better.

    Well they haven't got rid of any good players yet (Flyers/Flames) and if they do, it was because we walked into the 2nd (as of now) worst recession in modern history.

  • Ogden Brother

    Jason Gregor wrote:

    Strickland’s post is much more vague now, it looks like he changed it, so I’m guessing nothing is happening right now, but I’m gonna make a call to LA just to be sure.

    Striklands usually bang on, king of makes me wonder if the deal is done, but wasn't supposed to be announced yet.

  • Archaeologuy

    Ogden Brother wrote:

    Well they haven’t got rid of any good players yet (Flyers/Flames) and if they do, it was because we walked into the 2nd (as of now) worst recession in modern history.

    Flames are losing Cammalleri, The Flyers are in the worst position of any team in the league. You cant blame the economy. The Cap isnt arbitrary, it's tied to revenues. That's exactly why you need to leave yourself some flexibility. They didnt and they got burned for it.

  • Ogden Brother wrote:

    Striklands usually bang on, king of makes me wonder if the deal is done, but wasn’t supposed to be announced yet.

    He is tight with the Human Rake so must be on to something I would think.swany wrote:

    Gregor if said trade is TRUE does this not open up a team for the Oilers to send Souray, if LA deals CFP and Nieds isn’t comming back would the Ducks look at Souray? That would be ideal and we could just ask for picks/prospect this would pave the way to sign Jay-Bo and then send Gilbert, Cogs and another small roster player to the Sens for heatly. If Jay-bo would take a front loaded contract (alla Detriot) and a cap hit of 6 mil we only add 2.5 mil to our cap.

    Your idea has merit, if indeed Niedermayer retires. If not, then they might not have much cap space either.

    But until that deal happens, if it happens, we won't know for sure. I do know that the Oilers will court Jay-Bo.

  • swany

    Archaeologuy wrote:

    @ Jason Gregor:
    The Score is reporting the Trade now!

    Ludz has confermed the trade done friggen deal get on the horn and move Souray to the Ducks and sign Jay-Bo July 1st but until then when's the presser to announce Heatly for Gilbert,Cogs, Osully (hahahaha) if Tambo pulls that off GM of the year baby.

  • Ogden Brother

    Archaeologuy wrote:

    Ogden Brother wrote:
    Well they haven’t got rid of any good players yet (Flyers/Flames) and if they do, it was because we walked into the 2nd (as of now) worst recession in modern history.
    Flames are losing Cammalleri, The Flyers are in the worst position of any team in the league. You cant blame the economy. The Cap isnt arbitrary, it’s tied to revenues. That’s exactly why you need to leave yourself some flexibility. They didnt and they got burned for it.

    Supposedly Cammy was gone anyways.

    The worst position in the leauge? Good grief man, they have an excellent young core and and an owner thats willing to spend above the cap. I'd swap our roster with theirs any day.

  • Ogden Brother

    Archaeologuy wrote:

    Ogden Brother wrote:
    Well they haven’t got rid of any good players yet (Flyers/Flames) and if they do, it was because we walked into the 2nd (as of now) worst recession in modern history.
    Flames are losing Cammalleri, The Flyers are in the worst position of any team in the league. You cant blame the economy. The Cap isnt arbitrary, it’s tied to revenues. That’s exactly why you need to leave yourself some flexibility. They didnt and they got burned for it.

    And of course you can blame the economy, the cap rose 10%+ every year since it's inception, now it will do (rumoured) -15 to -20%. Even a modest 5% increas in revenue/year would have left all of the "have" teams in a good position.

  • Archaeologuy

    Ogden Brother wrote:

    The worst position in the leauge? Good grief man, they have an excellent young core and and an owner thats willing to spend above the cap. I’d swap our roster with theirs any day.

    And we'd have that roster until September when we start forfeiting games for being over the cap.

    Or we have that team and then start to dismantle it so we ARENT over the cap and dont have to forfeit games. Then it really wouldnt be the same team now would it?

  • Ogden Brother

    Archaeologuy wrote:

    Ogden Brother wrote:
    The worst position in the leauge? Good grief man, they have an excellent young core and and an owner thats willing to spend above the cap. I’d swap our roster with theirs any day.
    And we’d have that roster until September when we start forfeiting games for being over the cap.
    Or we have that team and then start to dismantle it so we ARENT over the cap and dont have to forfeit games. Then it really wouldnt be the same team now would it?

    What on earth are you talking about? The odds of Philly losing anyone of quality for 09/10 are slim to nill.

  • @ Archaeologuy:

    That's exactly what I'm trying to say too, but I probably didn't communicate it very well. The Oilers have not, in recent years, set a precedent for signing good contracts. They shunned Ryan Smyth when he was willing to take a 1+ M hometown discount, but they dished out the money to Roloson, Moreau, Pisani, and Penner, for lesser reasons, imo. Doesn't matter if it's an RFA or a UFA, if it's a big name player you're going to need major incentive for the player to sign in the city for less than "market" value. Either that is (a) implicit promise of a championship (a la Hossa/Detroit) or (b) team loyalty (a la Pavel Datsyuk). Edmonton is in no position to promise a championship and team loyalty would require a long precedent for signing good contracts (which we already mentioned, doesn't exist here yet). The oft-cited examples are Shawn Horcoff and Sheldon Souray. The one exception is perhaps Ales Hemsky who is signed to a wonderful contract. But with recent developments, I can see Hemsky demanding a hefty raise in the future. A very hefty raise.

    If they want to fix the precedent for signing bad contracts, it has to start by removing the ones that already exist. Does this have anything to do with Dany Heatley? I don't think so, since his contract was signed with Ottawa. We would have to make cap space for him but it's the player we want, not the salary. Mind you, Hossa almost signed here for 8+ million last summer.

  • Ogden Brother

    Antony Ta wrote:

    @ Archaeologuy:
    That’s exactly what I’m trying to say too, but I probably didn’t communicate it very well. The Oilers have not, in recent years, set a precedent for signing good contracts. They shunned Ryan Smyth when he was willing to take a 1+ M hometown discount, but they dished out the money to Roloson, Moreau, Pisani, and Penner, for lesser reasons, imo. Doesn’t matter if it’s an RFA or a UFA, if it’s a big name player you’re going to need major incentive for the player to sign in the city for less than “market” value. Either that is (a) implicit promise of a championship (a la Hossa/Detroit) or (b) team loyalty (a la Pavel Datsyuk). Edmonton is in no position to promise a championship and team loyalty would require a long precedent for signing good contracts (which we already mentioned, doesn’t exist here yet). The oft-cited examples are Shawn Horcoff and Sheldon Souray. The one exception is perhaps Ales Hemsky who is signed to a wonderful contract. But with recent developments, I can see Hemsky demanding a hefty raise in the future. A very hefty raise.
    If they want to fix the precedent for signing bad contracts, it has to start by removing the ones that already exist. Does this have anything to do with Dany Heatley? I don’t think so, since his contract was signed with Ottawa. We would have to make cap space for him but it’s the player we want, not the salary. Mind you, Hossa almost signed here for 8+ million last summer.

    You know at the time, Hemsky's contract was considerd high. He'll also be demanding a raise because PPG players make 6+ million/year…not because of recent developments.

  • misfit

    what's with the Heatley vs. Gaborik debate all about?

    Heatley is an option. He's asked for a trade (which I'm sure he'll get), and he's already stated that he'd waive his NTC to play in Edmonton.

    Gaborik could be an option on July 1, but he'd have to chose Edmonton over 29 other teams calling and making offers for his services. You can debate the positives and negatives of Edmonton all you want, but we haven't exactly proven to be a top UFA destination around the league.

    It's not like it's just a matter of chosing which one you want. Our options aren't "Heatley or Gaborik", they're "Heatley or whatever we've already got on the roster". Aquiring Heatley is a somewhat realistic option. Signing Gaborik on July 1st isn't, and we should all know that by now. Ditto for Bouwmeester.

  • swany

    Sportsnet has confermed the trade Pronger for JJ and the 5th I like what the LA gm did he got rid of a headcase for a stud d-man and now he doesn't have to move any young forwards for Heatly as he can just sign Gabby