100-point season for Nash doubtful

To date 102 different players have totaled 100 or more points in an NHL season (to see the entire list, click here).

Phil Esposito was the first player to score 100 points in a season, when he scored twice in a 4-0 win over Pittsburgh on March 2, 1969. He went on to tally 126 points that year. Two others joined him later that year.

Bobby Hull set a new NHL record with 58 goals and finished with 107 points, while Gordie Howe recorded his first and only 100 point season at the young age of 41. He is still the oldest player to score 100 points in an NHL season. He did score 100 points in the WHA at 44 and 46 years of age.

Wayne Gretzky did it a whopping 15 times, 13 of them in consecutive seasons, and he is the only player to score 200 in a season, tallying 212, 205, 208 and 215. Mario Lemieux (10), Marcel Dionne (8), Mike Bossy (7) and Peter Stastny (7) round out the top five

Esposito, Dale Hawerchuk, Jari Kurri, Guy Lafleur, Mark Messier, Joe Sakic, Steve Yzerman and Bryan Trottier all did six times.

Only five defenceman have reached the century mark, Bobby Orr did it six times in six straight years. Paul Coffey had five 100-point seasons, while Denis Potvin, Al MacInnis and Brian Leetch did it once.

Many feel the ‘80s were the highest scoring era, but the 1992/1993 season had 21 players score 100 or more points.

In 1971 the Bruins had four players reach triple digits in points, Esposito (152), Orr (139), John Bucyk (116) and Ken Hodge had 105. The Oilers had four teammates on three different occasions and the Penguins did it once.

The last player to have three consecutive 100-point seasons was Jeremy Roenick when he scored 103, 107 and 107 in 1992 to 1994. Evgeni Malkin and Alex Ovechkin can match that this coming season if they stay healthy.

44 players did it once; meaning only 58 players in the history of the game have done it multiple times. Denis Maruk had 136 points in 1982, which turned out to be 39 more than he scored in any other season. He had the most points of any guy to do it only once. Vic Hadfield had one great year when he scored 50 goals and had 106 points in 1972, but his next best total was only 73 points.

In the 1978/1979 season Bob MacMillan had the season of his career scoring 108 points with the Atlanta Flames, he never had more than 63 in any other year. The 45-point differential is the largest amongst any player to score 100 points.

Brian Leetch and Joe Thornton had the fewest goals of any 100-point season, finding the twine 22 times. Only Gretzky (23), Adam Oates (23) and (25), Craig Janney (24) and Doug Weight are the others to tally 100 points with 25 or less goals.

I looked into the 100-point season when it was brought up that Rick Nash was being paid for his potential and that he’ll become a 100-point guy soon. Nash’s best total to date is 79 points, and his best junior season was 72 points in 54 games.

The list is lengthy of guys who put up 100 points in junior and never came close to repeating that in the NHL; Patrick Thoresen jumps out in that category.

But how many guys never scored 100 points in junior, but went on to reach the century mark in the NHL? Most of the Europeans haven’t because of the amount of games they played, but I was certain the list wouldn’t be that long amongst players who played major junior, or even in the USHL.

Yzerman had 91 points in Peterborough, before becoming a six-time 100-point guy in the NHL. Phil Esposito had 71 points in 49 games, his only year in the OHL. He also went on to become a six-time 100-point guy, and it was his 5th NHL season the first time he cracked 100 points.

Ron Francis had 48 points in 25 games for Sault Ste. Marie in 1982 before he got called up to Hartford, but he was easily on pace to notch 100 that year in the OHL. Al MacInnis had 84 points in 51 games in Kitchener before getting called up to Calgary during the 1983 season. Jeremy Roenick had 70 points in 28 games for Hull in the QMJHL in 1988/89, while also playing for Chicago that year.

Messier’s best year in the AJHL was 74 points in 54 games. He was never a huge point producer until he got to the NHL. He is a rare exception.

Brendan Shanahan potted 92 points with London, and he only had two 90+ point seasons in the NHL, with his best being 102 in 1994. Charlie Simmer had 99 points with the Greyhounds in the OHL, before rattling off back-to-back 100+ point seasons with the Kings. Eric Staal’s best junior campaign was 98 points before he scored 100 in his 2nd NHL season.

Mike Gartner recorded 90 points for Niagara Falls in the OHL, and he only ever had more than 90 points three times in the NHL, and just the one 102 point season in Washington. Marian Hossa had 85 points in 53 games for Portland in the WHL, and to date he’s only had one 100-point season.

Paul Maclean had 101 points with the Winnipeg Jets in 1985, but never had more than 79 any other year. His best junior year was 71 points in Hull. Strictly on a statistical basis he is the closest comparison to Nash. John Ogrodnick’s best major junior season saw him score 88 points, and he only had two 80+ points seasons in the NHL, with his best season being 1985 when he produced 105 points. Johnny Bucyk tallied 88 points in 70 games for the Edmonton Flyers in the WHL.

There are seven Hall of Famers, and two guys who might get in when they retire, Shanahan and Roenick that are comparables. Considering Nash hasn’t scored over 80 points in junior or the NHL so far, I think it is a stretch to assume he will become a 100-point player soon. It is possible since Maclean and Ogrodnick have done it, but Nash’s chances are slim.

Neal Broten, Craig Janney, Joe Juneau, Joe Mullen, Doug Weight, Adam Oates, Kevin Stevens and Brett Hull all played college and then went on to 100 point seasons. But only Stevens (2), Oates (4) and Hull (4) did it more than once.

Pavel Bure, Markus and Mats Naslund, Kent Nilsson, Daniel Alfredsson, Jari Kurri, Alex Mogilny, Temmu Selanne, Malkin, Ovechkin, Mats Sundin, Jaromir Jagr, Sergei Federov, Peter Stastny and Hakan Loob are the Europeans who tallied 100.

Vic Hadfield only had 48 games seasons when he played junior, Bobby Hull had 52, Jean Pronovost had 54, Darryl Sittler 54, but he did score 99 points one year and Bobby Orr had 56, although he had two 90+ point seasons in Oshawa. Gordie Howe had 48 points in 51 games for Omaha in the USHL. Due to their low GP totals I didn’t include them.

John Cullen played at Boston College, but he did score 157 points in his only IHL season in Flint. Paul Kariya had 100 points in 39 games for Maine in NCAA. Leetch had 101 points in 28 games for Cheshire in the high school league.

Dany Heatley had 70 goals and over 100 points in 1999 for the Calgary Canucks before playing college. Glenn Anderson scored 131 points in 64 games in the BCJHL for Bellingham. Peter Forsberg had 102 points in only 39 games for Modo Hockey Jr in the Swedish Junior league.

Nash’s career stats to this point don’t justify his new $7.8 million per season contract, and based on the past history of the game it doesn’t look promising that he will ever score 100 points.

  • psycloud

    Jason Gregor wrote:

    Go to a look at Yzerman and Sakic’s career. Some years they had 50 or more points than the 2nd guy on their team.

    I did a little playing with the numbers, and, interestingly enough, Columbus had the third biggest margin in the league in terms of points scored by their leading point getter over their second leading point getter.

    Shane Doan (PHX) had 27 more than the next guy.
    Pavel Datsyuk (DET) had 24
    Rick Nash (CBJ) had 23
    Alex Ovechkin had 22

    And the league average was a difference of 9.4 points between the number one guy and the number two guy. Based on these numbers, Rick was getting the job done just fine. (Granted, you can obviously make numbers say whatever you want them to. If Malkin didn't have Crosby and still managed to put up 100 points, he'd have been 50 points better than the next guy.)

  • @ Jonathan Willis:

    The purpose wasn't to state Nash is a bad contract, but to focus on the possibility of him scoring 100 points in a season.

    Staal's contract looks just as bad, but he at least took his team to the Cup, and is a force when they get in the playoffs. Nash has made the playoffs once, and hasn't won a round. I agree Staal hasn't produced nearly as well since his 100 point season, but he got paid on what he had done already, where as Nash hasn't done anything to merit his deal. Both are very good players, but they don't come close to Malkin, Crosby or Ovechkin and shouldn't be paid close to what those three get.

  • psycloud wrote:

    And the league average was a difference of 9.4 points between the number one guy and the number two guy. Based on these numbers, Rick was getting the job done just fine. (Granted, you can obviously make numbers say whatever you want them to. If Malkin didn’t have Crosby and still managed to put up 100 points, he’d have been 50 points better than the next guy.)

    He is clearly their best player, that is obvious, but he isn't close to being a 100 point guy…heck he hasn't even been an 80 point guy. Until Nash produces big numbers, regardless of his teammates, he shouldn't be in the elite category.

    And while he did outscore his teammate by 23 this year, it was only eight points the year before that. In 2006 and 2007 he was 2nd on his team behind Vyborny, and in 2004 he was only four points ahead of Vyborny. So really only one year has he truly dominated his own teammates in scoring.

  • ScubaSteve

    Jason Gregor wrote:

    I love these comments, “he could have scored 100 with other players”.

    I agree, that he "could" get 100 with better linemates, but a player that does that, does not deserve this size of contract.

    I also agree that Nash was paid a premium for being the face of the franchise. That being said, if Nash doesn't score at least 50/40 this year, the contract looks even worse. With this precedent set, what will be the asking price from Braussard, Filatov,or Mason?

  • Jack Bauer

    I think Iginla can be thrown into the category of Sakic and Yzerman as a guy who scored 100 points while playing on a garbage team.

    I agree with the assessment that great players make other greater in reference to Hemsky. And while Hemsky is a good player, he is far from great. The fact that we "need to find that left winger that suits Hemsky" shows that in my opinion.

  • Tull

    What a ridiculous article. Its a dump of research with a Rick Nash title.

    Sure he's overpaid, but so is Horsecoff, Eric Staal, Paul Stastny, Brad Richards, Gomez, Drury, Gaborik, Briere, Nylander etc etc etc. The guy put up 79 points playing with centre RJ Umberger (who put up 46).

    07-08: Nash puts up 69 points. Take your pick of centres who he played with – highest guy on the team was peca at 34 points…

    06-07: Nash 57 points, played with a mix of centres, but the aging fedorov had the highest total of 42 points…

    05-06: Nash 54 points, similar to 06-07, played some with Fedorov who put up 44 points. Key to this season was Nash was limited to 54 games.

    This guy is a bonafide NHL star, no matter what kind of stats you can pile against him. He's a beast, and if the jackets can put together a half decent first line – he would be in the 100 range now.

    You're a great spinster J.Gregor, I'm sure you can spin the numbers just as confidently to show Nash as a top player.

  • MattN

    Cap Hits for LW in 10/11

    1. AO – 9.538
    2. Nash – 7.8
    3. Heatley – 7.5
    4. Gaborik – 7.5
    5. Vanek – 7.143

    That is about the order I would draft them in as well.

  • ronaldo

    MattN wrote:

    Cap Hits for LW in 10/11

    1. AO – 9.538
    2. Nash – 7.8
    3. Heatley – 7.5
    4. Gaborik – 7.5
    5. Vanek – 7.143

    Just imagine if Vanek's offer sheet was not matched: no Pennergate, no Nylandergate, no Hossagate, no Heatleygate. What would we have to talk about?

  • Ender the Dragon

    Tull wrote:

    This guy is a bonafide NHL star. . . You’re a great spinster J.Gregor, I’m sure you can spin the numbers just as confidently to show Nash as a top player.

    You seem very confident; can you?

  • ronaldo wrote:

    Just imagine if Vanek’s offer sheet was not matched: no Pennergate, no Nylandergate, no Hossagate, no Heatleygate. What would we have to talk about?

    How much we are overpaying Vanek. Come on guy, we're Oiler fans. We'll always find something to complain about.

  • Tull wrote:

    Sure he’s overpaid, but so is Horsecoff, Eric Staal, Paul Stastny, Brad Richards, Gomez, Drury, Gaborik, Briere, Nylander etc etc etc.

    Why only the deprecating nickname to Horcoff? Here's a few to get you started: how abour Marion Gabnodick; Brad Prickchards; or Paul Spazny?

  • Tull wrote:

    You’re a great spinster J.Gregor, I’m sure you can spin the numbers just as confidently to show Nash as a top player.

    Please do so. There is nothing that shows he is in the Elite category. Nothing. What does comparing his numbers to the other centres on his team prove by the way?

  • Hemmertime

    @ Jason Gregor:

    We talk about Hemmers contract being a steal at 4.1 mil, lets say he is worth about… 5.5-6? I think that is fair, 6 mil would be a decent benchmark (Smytty makes more). Hemsky puts up slightly more points on average than Nash – but Nash doubles Hemmers goals. So in my opinion Nash is worth 6-7 per year at the high range – although personally I would have tried for one of those nice Detroit cap friendly contracts with similar money to Hossa. But the overpayment is only 1-1.5 mil cap hit, and that 1.5 mil is for the potential of him getting better.

    We overpay Horcoff 1-1.5 mil. I would rather overpay a goal scorer who has a history of success on my team that extra amount, but 1-1.5 seems to be the "home team boost" for non-competitive teams.

  • Hemmertime

    ronaldo wrote:

    Just imagine if Vanek’s offer sheet was not matched: no Pennergate, no Nylandergate, no Hossagate, no Heatleygate. What would we have to talk about?

    Oiler fans, we will talk about Stortinis training, how Khabibulins reaction time seems to have slipped 0.002 seconds on average (I bet Willis is watching video with a stopwatch right now), or about whether or not Theo Peckam has a legit shot at being our 6th-7th D man.

    Hell, if Oilers.com is to be believed, we would even be interested in which players prefer Waffles to French toast, hot dogs to hamburgers and Aspen to Hawaii… I bet we could fill up at least 100 comments on that in the middle of an Edmonton August.

  • Oilers just released their preseason schedule…
    Sept 15th @ Calgary.
    Sept 16th v. Islanders.

    Sept 18th v. Florida
    Sept 19th @ Vancouver

    Sept 20th @Islanders (game will be played in Saskatoon)
    Sept 23rd v. Calgary

    Sept 24th @ Tampa Bay (game will be played in Winnipeg)
    Sept 27th v. Vancouver

  • Hemmertime wrote:

    We overpay Horcoff 1-1.5 mil. I would rather overpay a goal scorer who has a history of success on my team that extra amount, but 1-1.5 seems to be the “home team boost” for non-competitive teams.

    It seems almost every teams pays more for certain players. The Rangers always gets UFAs and they always overpay for them. Gomez, Redden, Drury..etc…

    It is hard to base exactly what Nash is worth, but for every overpayment a team has, they need to have a few "steal of a deal" contracts to make up for it.

    I don't understand why guys get so defensive about Nash's value on here. The fact is he hasn't done anything to be paid as an Elite player, and based on the history of the game, and his stats, he will need to take his game to a level he has yet to achieve to become a 100 point player. He might, but the odds aren't in his favour based on what he has done to date.

    I think if Nash was $6 million guy we'd think that was a fair contract.

  • Ed

    Jason Gregor wrote:

    Oilers just released their preseason schedule…
    Sept 15th @ Calgary.
    Sept 16th v. Islanders.
    Sept 18th v. Florida
    Sept 19th @ Vancouver
    Sept 20th @Islanders (game will be played in Saskatoon)
    Sept 23rd v. Calgary
    Sept 24th @ Tampa Bay (game will be played in Winnipeg)
    Sept 27th v. Vancouver

    Thanks…does that mean the season will start October 1st..I hope so…only 11 weeks until we see what Pat Quinn can do behind the bench.

  • Mike

    Jason Gregor wrote:

    Oilers just released their preseason schedule…
    Sept 15th @ Calgary.
    Sept 16th v. Islanders.
    Sept 18th v. Florida
    Sept 19th @ Vancouver
    Sept 20th @Islanders (game will be played in Saskatoon)
    Sept 23rd v. Calgary
    Sept 24th @ Tampa Bay (game will be played in Winnipeg)
    Sept 27th v. Vancouver

    Any idea why Tampa and NYI would play their home preseason games in Canada?

  • Mike wrote:

    Any idea why Tampa and NYI would play their home preseason games in Canada?

    I'm guessing because they will see more seats in Winnipeg for a preseason game than they would in Tampa.

    Also some teams like to have a road trip/bonding experience with their guys during camp.

  • Hemmertime

    Jason Gregor wrote:

    I think if Nash was $6 million guy we’d think that was a fair contract.

    Agreed, but I was already reading articles before this years July 1st touting Nash as possibly the most attractive UFA ever for next year. If we think 7.8 is overpayment now, and thats only Gomez/Briere money on the open market – imagine his contract then. "Burkie" (god I hate TSN now, when I hear them calling him their pet names I change the channel) would have blew his wad on him. As would 20 other NHL teams. That is all based on the cap though, if went down a lot he might not have seen this kind of dough again.

    Overall an overpayment, but Nash would have made more as a UFA this year, and about 9 mil if he was UFA last year or one previous. He is decent, but Id take a 4.5 million Shane Doan over a 7.8 million Rick Nash anyday. Very similar players and stats, Nash may pot you a couple more goals though.

  • Ogden Brother

    ronaldo wrote:

    MattN wrote:
    Cap Hits for LW in 10/11
    1. AO – 9.538
    2. Nash – 7.8
    3. Heatley – 7.5
    4. Gaborik – 7.5
    5. Vanek – 7.143
    Just imagine if Vanek’s offer sheet was not matched: no Pennergate, no Nylandergate, no Hossagate, no Heatleygate. What would we have to talk about?

    We'd get to see 385,832 posts about his 10 million salary.

  • Ogden Brother

    Jason Gregor wrote:

    Hemmertime wrote:
    We overpay Horcoff 1-1.5 mil. I would rather overpay a goal scorer who has a history of success on my team that extra amount, but 1-1.5 seems to be the “home team boost” for non-competitive teams.
    It seems almost every teams pays more for certain players. The Rangers always gets UFAs and they always overpay for them. Gomez, Redden, Drury..etc…
    It is hard to base exactly what Nash is worth, but for every overpayment a team has, they need to have a few “steal of a deal” contracts to make up for it.
    I don’t understand why guys get so defensive about Nash’s value on here. The fact is he hasn’t done anything to be paid as an Elite player, and based on the history of the game, and his stats, he will need to take his game to a level he has yet to achieve to become a 100 point player. He might, but the odds aren’t in his favour based on what he has done to date.
    I think if Nash was $6 million guy we’d think that was a fair contract.

    To be fair, he'd be worth what ever the market would bare, and I'd bet he could get 8+ if he was a UFA right now.

  • Here is the press release from the Oilers on a few new signings…

    General Manager Steve Tambellini announced today, the Edmonton Oilers have agreed to terms with forward Chris Minard and defenceman Matt Nickerson.

    Minard, 27, split the 2008-09 season between the NHL’s Pittsburgh Penguins and AHL’s Wilkes-Barre/Scranton Penguins.  In 20 games with Pittsburgh, Minard collected one goal and two assists for three points.  In 54 games with Wilkes-Barre, he recorded 34 goals and 23 assists for 57 points, including 21 power play goals. He also led Wilkes-Barre in goals and finished fourth on the club in scoring.

    The Owen Sound, Ontario native has scored 25 or more goals in each of his last three AHL seasons, including 25 goals with Wilkes-Barre during the 2007-08 campaign and 32 markers with the Lowell Devils during the 2006-07 season.  In 213 career AHL games, Minard has totaled 98 goals and 69 assists for 167 points. 

    Through his seven-year professional career, Minard has played 35 career NHL games recording two goals and three assists for five points.

    Nickerson is returning to North America after spending the previous two seasons playing professionally in Finland and Sweden.  The Old Lyme, Connecticut native was originally drafted by the Dallas Stars in the third round (99th overall) in the 2003 NHL Entry Draft.

    The 6-foot-4, 235-pound defenceman made his AHL debut with the Iowa Stars during the 2006-07 campaign collecting three points and 97 penalty minutes in 40 games.

  • oil fan wrote:

    Never read the whole list. But was Bernie Nichols on it ? I think he got 150 points with the kings

    He had three 100 point seasons…He and Gretzky are the only teammates to have 150+ points in the same season.