Oilers vs. Predators Postgame: Pat Quinn Should’ve Saved His Rant

Nashville Predators: 6

Edmonton Oilers: 3

Pat Quinn should have saved his rant for this game; the Oilers looked far worse tonight than they did against Los Angeles.

Oilers Three Stars, According To Me 

1. Robert Nilsson. A beautiful power play night for Nilsson, who scored two goals and threw a big hit too. The second goal was a gorgeous little deke that had everyone excited – well, everyone other than Pat Quinn, who sounded less than impressed in his post-game press conference. His six shots was twice as many as any other forward.

2. Gilbert Brule. Had a solid game, regardless of which line he played on. One assist on the night and a few good chances; I’m still trying to figure out why he got demoted off the first line, and more importantly why Quinn slashed his ice-time tonight.

3. Ryan Stone. I was baffled by Stone’s demotion to the fourth line, particularly given that Quinn opted to replace him with Patrick O’Sullivan. He’s been a legitimate find this year; an NHL player who came from well back to earn a spot, and from where I sit he’s one of the nine best forwards on this team. 

Random Thoughts

Pat Quinn took shots at a bunch of unnamed players, rather strongly suggesting that there are guys on the team who care more about individual achievement than they do about team achievement. He also flat-out stated that some of the veterans were a big part of the problem.

J-F Jacques played far and away the fewest minutes of any forward, with 6:30; the next lowest total belonged to Zack Stortini, who just missed the 10:0 minute mark. I wonder if his 0/5 run on scoring chances had anything to do with that.

It was nice to see the MacTavish line blender out in full force as the game wore on; I was watching line matchups all game and it seemed like Quinn had planned to run Horcoff & Co. against the Erat, Arnott and Sullivan line, but once he abandoned that players started getting subbed in all over the place.

Line changes keep killing this team. Nashville’s fourth goal racked up a minus for Horcoff, Nilsson and O’Sullivan, but it wasn’t remotely deserved. Zack Stortini didn’t get the puck deep, and then his line (I believe Moreau and Cogliano were the other two guys) meandered over to the bench for the change. Horcoff jumped on to the ice at one point but had to jump back off to avoid a too many men penalty; by the time his trio finally did manage to get on the ice it was far too late.

The Steve Staios holding penalty in the third period brought the phrase “cascade failure” to mind. Most hockey plays aren’t the result of a single, definable error; rather they’re caused by a series of errors. In quality control this is generally known as “cascade failure”. In any case, the first failure was Denis Grebeshkov (who had a brutal night) whiffing on a pass. Than Jeff Deslauriers got ambitious and chucked the puck away rather than covering it; the puck ended up on a Nashville stick. Then the Oilers played ring around the rosy for a while before Staios finally got whistled. Team effort.

Dustin Penner took a beating from the refs tonight, and was quite correctly livid about it.

  • Gregors dirty 'stash

    So that wonderful idiot who put up all those gross, gay jokes about souray and stuff, is a Flames fan that I work with… I took care of him and his Flamerness!

  • I don't mind competing for a top 5 pick, but from the sound of the radio crew last night we will be a cinch for a top 5 pick. It's quite a log jam for one of those picks right now with 10 team with < 34 points.

    The tease of the 5 game win streak has gotten hopes up amongst the faithful, but riding a rookie goaltender & a bunch of inconsistent forwards will not get us into the play-offs. I heard the Olympic break ends 1 day before the trade deadline (i'm unsure) so hopefully some moves are made next month to decide if we are going to finish 16-20 overall or 25-30 overall.

    • The Real Scuba Steve

      I agree, but I am losing faith in Tambo's ability to pull off a trade. He has really done nothing to move this team forward since he has arrived here.

      • Hahaha – I don't think we have a play-off team, even with a trade. We need a serious focus on getting some more young talent to build this team up for say 2013-2014 season in a new rink 😉

  • The Refs clearly missed two interference calls, and a couple slashes on Penners two broken sticks. I find it funny that the one interference call that should have been made, ended up going to Penner for trying to avoid the guy that was interfering with him, then has his body lunges around him, incidently losing partial balance and a arm fending the guy off takes a FLIPPING Penalty. LIKE WTF? Pretty freaken sad.

  • Not much of a statement game for my star POS. My goat Moreau lived up to his billing though. O'Sully has as much physical prowess as Cogliano, but Cogs is putting in the effort, going into the corners (even if he skates it in to the corners himself too much).

    Man is it fun to watch Nilsson back on his game. This is what I was expecting at the start of the season.

    I'm not sure Grebs gets too many more games like that before Strudwick draws back in. You expect him to be rusty coming back, but Grebs is just a total disaster.

    I don't like the work Renney has done with the D this year. Gilbert and Grebs have taken HUGE steps back, Souray's been a liability (maybe injury), only Lubo and Smid have been up to snuff, and it LOOKS like they're the ones who have taken Renney's coaching to heart the least. Lubo looks like he always has, none of that one hand on the stick poke check crap. I think we were all right to question Huddy's dismissal over Bucky. Coverage down low has been atrocious all year.

    Lastly, I think JDD's puck-mishandling would be at least a little mitigated if the defense would come back a little faster. You would think they would figure it out by now, DON'T LET JDD HANDLE THE PUCK. Souray especially has been guilty of half-assing it coming back to retrieve the puck.

    • He's only gone if he steps down. I don't think that this team is the way it is because of Quinn. This is what he was given and he is dealing with it the best that he can.

      Add your top forward and #1 goalie going down for extended periods and Quinn gets the free ride for this season.

      • Gregors dirty 'stash

        True that. It would be interesting to see the results if we could play with the same line-up in a few consecutive games. The musical chairs game Quinn has had to play this season due to injuries must drive him nuts too, but can't be blamed on coaching.

      • OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F

        The way he is coaching has an extremly short shelf life. It maight not be one year, but it's not much longer then that.

        …as i've mentioned though, I'm thinking it's intentional.

        • Sammy D

          Is stepping down the same as stepping up? In this case up to the front office.

          I've always questioned why Quinn came here in the first place, espeically after Renney signed on. Unless they knew that Tambo and/or KLowe were going to be gone after this year and they wanted to create a transition plan…

          Forward thinking by the Oilers? What am I thinking? Sorry about that… won't let it happen again.

  • Gregors dirty 'stash

    Made it to the game, line changes seemned like a problem all game long. Lots of guys being lazy with changes. Penner suprised me the most, he sulked over a few times causing potential problems.

  • Gregors dirty 'stash

    As Souray said after the game, two steps forward, two steps back. Five straight wins on the road and then two straight losses at home, brilliant! This is a 12th place team, they play like a 12th place team, they look like a 12th place team. By deduction, a new coaching staff hasn't changed the losing pattern. We can't attribute the losing culture to injured players as other teams suffer similarly with injuries. One of the posters referred to the Oilers as coach killers; seems accurate. Changes are necessary, if only to unload salaries. I see that Katz has appointed a new Executive VP. Does this mean that LaForge and Lowe will now report to Black? Would make sense as it would bring more accountability to the management of this sorry franchise.

  • Jodes

    Johnathan, I think we're going to see a lot more games like tonight.. we just don't have the talent to compete night in and night out. They just don't want to work together as a group.

    Its pretty sad when this team goes on a 5 game winning streak and still doesn't do any real damage in the standings.

    Oh well.. I guess we'll just end up drafting another smallish "offensive" forward somewhere in the middle of the pack yet again.

  • HansBaurMesserschmittWatson

    That's right, it's coming back to me ….

    "I'm going off the board with Shawn Horcoff," MacTavish said. "Terrific role player, the best three-on-five penalty killer in the game, and when you get into those situations, you're going to wish he was there to fill the role".

    This was on TSN's "The Quiz" when asked if he could pick any player for Team Canada that was not at the summer training camp.

  • Please tell me if it is true that MacT wanted Horcoff on the Olympic team. Unforkingbeleivable.

    The only thing worst than that would be if MacT iced Toby Peterson or M. Poilet in the final minute of the Gold medal game.

  • i dont even need to give reasoning or stats for my opinions, truth speaks for it self. as long as our core of guys are these "veteran/leaders" who couldnt be all-stars in a beer league, we will suck. trust me. how do u expect POS to give a fcuk, when horcoff sucks worse then he does and POS is being called out. i wonder if he took a page out of the penner book from last year. remember the team sucked, but only penner and nillson were in the dog house, never horcoff never moreau. you cant expect these players to take the organization and the coaches serious, when this junk is hapening. they are not fools, they can see whats going on and i am not suprised they arent connectiong with the hypocritical coaches and management

    So why was MacT stumping for Horc to be on the Olympic squad earlier this year? He doesn't owe anything to the Oilers now that he is an analyst? Your logic makes no sense as usual.