Be Less Naïve

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KHL contracts have essentially no value. This topic comes up because yet again rumours that Jaromir Jagr wants to get out of his KHL contract and return to the NHL next season have cropped up. Yet again, the Edmonton Oilers are the rumoured front-runner for his services.

Say what you will about Jagr – and people like Robin Brownlee have said that he wouldn’t sign him, but whatever you do, don’t play the “he has a KHL contract” card, as Kevin Lowe and Alexander Medvedev did in denying the rumours. Some journalists have even suggested that KHL rules are a stumbling block to getting players out of Russia.

The point that I want folks to be crystal clear on is that the KHL’s rules don’t matter in the slightest. Why should they? NHL contracts have not been respected by the KHL.

Alexander Radulov, to use the obvious example, was under contract to the Nashville Predators for a little less than a million dollars this season. Despite having signed a legal contract with no out clause, Radulov was signed by Ufa Salavat of the KHL, with protests by the NHL and Nashville Predators falling on deaf ears.

There are other examples. The Carolina Hurricanes saw two players on NHL/AHL contracts poached by KHL teams, including ex-Oiler Dan Lacouture. The KHL used the first pretext they could to break their deal with the NHL, and as a result they consider players with NHL contracts fair game.

The KHL does not view an NHL contract as an impediment to signing a player. For that reason alone, the NHL has no obligation to respect KHL contracts.

I’m on the fence about Jagr – unlike Brownlee, I think he could be a useful addition to the team. Like Brownlee, though, I think $7 million is far too much money. I am, however, under no illusions that Jagr’s KHL contract will keep him in Russia.

  • Hippy

    socaldave wrote:

    Deep Oil wrote:
    with the price of oil these days, due to the dark knight friends in New York running it up to $150 and then selling it short…. this league is now running on fumes.
    I’ve laughed at most of your posts, and I still think you’re joking 99.7% of the time, but if you truly believe this, then you are absolutely out of your f***ing gourd. Go take a global policy class and come back and see me.

    I actually hold a business degree and have learned via
    bloomberg that less than 25% of oil trades involve the actual commodity – all paper. Go watch Mad Money, this conspiracy trader you can learn from.

  • Hippy

    sittingatmydesk wrote:

    i think Jagr has been a really good palyer, but his last 3 seasons in the NHL, his points production dropped by 20 points each season…
    7 mill is a bit too much, i think on a 1 year contract with incentives could be the best way to go…
    the KHL, is a joke…all the contracts are going to be nullified pretty soon, then its fair game, but really theres probaly 2 or 3 players that could come to the NHL..the rest are garbage….
    what happened to marty “sakic”, he scored on a breakway!!!

    On a one year deal his $$$ really isn't relevant. Lets lay down a Sundin style offer for next year and see where it goes.

  • Hippy

    *coughs* 'ADAMOATES' *coughs*

    Jagr was a phenomenal player, but he's always had motivation issues. He needs a ready-made team that has a chance at going far. I think he'd get here and see that this team is destined for mediocrity and phone it in.

    One thing though, I'd love to see MacT's reaction when Jagr comes off for a shift change in the middle of an opponents' odd man rush. His head might actually explode (PKEW)!

  • Hippy

    Peter Pan wrote:

    As much as I devalue JW’s opinions and simple-mindedness, I must admit I agree with him about the legitimacy of KHL contracts and how the NHL should perceive them them to be so.

    ~And as much as I value your wisdom, in this instance even you(!) disagreeing with me wouldn't change my mind.~

  • Hippy

    One think we seem to forget is when his #'s went down in NY he lost 2 of his playmakers, with Hemmer setting him up I could see JJ hitting 80-90 points again. He isn't a big hittier but ask any player and he is a tough SOB to knock off the puck, I would see if you can't get him for 2 years at 11 mil. 2 years because I can't see him just signing a one year deal, that's why he wasn't an Oiler this year. Klowe hindsight is 20/20. If JJ was here this year over Cole you can add 4-5 more wins just from the rise in skill level.

  • Hippy

    Deep Oil wrote:

    with the price of oil these days, due to the dark knight friends in New York running it up to $150 and then selling it short…. this league is now running on fumes.

    I've laughed at most of your posts, and I still think you're joking 99.7% of the time, but if you truly believe this, then you are absolutely out of your f***ing gourd. Go take a global policy class and come back and see me.

  • Hippy

    As much as I devalue JW's opinions and simple-mindedness, I must admit I agree with him about the legitimacy of KHL contracts and how the NHL should perceive them them to be so.

    In regards to Jagr possibly becoming an Oiler – not worth it. Jagr is a has-been. His sun has set. How would he benefit this team long-term? A band-aid solution is nothing to get too excited about. Management still can't decifer whether we're re-building or not. The Oil have missed the past 2 post-seasons and are potentially on the verge of a 3rd straight miss. Despite what many in ON argue, the Oil have a "decent" young core and they should focus on their development. And bringing in Jagr will not benefit that process. Rather, investing in younger, long-term players would be the way to go.

  • Hippy

    Any NHL calibre player (mostly Russian or Euros) that desires to make equal net after dollars should just demand that payment be made in USD. Then this currency fluctuation would be void, noting the Ruble is down 30%. If there is a delay in your paycheque, then shame on you for trusting the RUSKIES and see what UFA offers are available back across the globe.

    KHL is not a modern league – mostly a russian oil czar propping up Russian pride and poking the NHL in the eye… with the price of oil these days, due to the dark knight friends in New York running it up to $150 and then selling it short…. this league is now running on fumes.

  • Hippy

    Jonathan Willis wrote:

    There’s probably only two or three players who would put up big NHL numbers, but there are a lot of guys over there who could play over here.

    yes, i agree, im talking more about impact players, superstars….

  • Hippy

    sittingatmydesk wrote:

    really theres probaly 2 or 3 players that could come to the NHL..the rest are garbage

    There's plenty more than that. The KHL seems to be a tougher league than the AHL.

    There's probably only two or three players who would put up big NHL numbers, but there are a lot of guys over there who could play over here.

  • Hippy

    i think Jagr has been a really good palyer, but his last 3 seasons in the NHL, his points production dropped by 20 points each season…
    7 mill is a bit too much, i think on a 1 year contract with incentives could be the best way to go…
    the KHL, is a joke…all the contracts are going to be nullified pretty soon, then its fair game, but really theres probaly 2 or 3 players that could come to the NHL..the rest are garbage….
    what happened to marty "sakic", he scored on a breakway!!!