Heatley or J-Bo? The Oilers can’t have both

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This shouldn’t come as a news flash, but the Edmonton Oilers are interested in Dany Heatley and will pick up the phone between now and the NHL Entry Draft and speak to Ottawa GM Bryan Murray about what it might take to pry him from the Senators.

That grasp of the obvious I do have after talking to somebody I trust this afternoon in the wake of reports that Heatley has informed the Senators he’d like to be traded.

That puts the Oilers in line with 13 or 14 other Western Conference teams — Heatley has said he’d prefer to play in the west — and probably a handful of Eastern Conference teams who’ll make an offer regardless of the geography Heatley prefers.

The complicating factor when it comes to the Oilers is I’m told they are also interested in Jay Bouwmeester, who’ll be the most sought-after unrestricted free agent of the summer after July 1.

Sought after enough you can bet there’s a handful of teams, including the Oilers, willing to offer Florida something just for the right to negotiate with the big defenceman.

Heatley or Bouwmeester? You can’t have both.

Big Money

Teams like the Oilers looking to get into the Heatley sweepstakes will have a $7.5 million cap hit to consider and will have to move some salary Ottawa’s way in any deal.

With Bouwmeester, he’ll also command the same kind of money on the open market, so that will obviously limit the number of teams who’ll be able to bid for his services.

With $46.94 million committed to 18 players for 2009-10, the Oilers are going to have to move salary to be in the running for either player. Both? Nice thought, but absolutely out of the question. No chance. None.

Bet the farm, though, that GM Steve Tambellini will at some point be on the blower to Murray trying to find out what package of players makes sense for the Senators, who can use help on the blueline.

Of course, Murray would be a fool — and he’s not — to make any kind of move before teams descend on Montreal for the Entry Draft. That’ll be a feeding frenzy and Murray will have his pick of offers.

It’s all about the package

There’s already been the obligatory speculation about what kind of package Tambellini might put together to get Murray’s attention, and you can fill in any name you’d like. Armchair GMs, and the guys in the big chair for real, are doing that in cities across the NHL about now.

When I said to the person I talked to today it would make sense to package anybody except Ales Hemsky and Sam Gagner, it was suggested that those are the two players Murray might ask for.

That’s a massive overpay in my mind, even for a gifted goal-scorer in his prime like Heatley, but you get the drift — he won’t come cheap, even with the trade request out there.

Still, it’s one or the other, so expect the Oilers to be pitching big-time in the days leading up to the draft for Heatley.

If they can’t get anything done with Murray — maybe he’ll ask the Oilers to top up the deal with $2.5 million at the last second — then it makes sense that Tambellini will turn his attention to Bouwmeester July 1.

— Listen to Robin Brownlee every Thursday from 4 to 6 p.m. on Just A Game with Jason Gregor on TEAM 1260.

  • smytty777

    I don't think either guy is coming to Edmonton.

    /Reality off

    Plan for J-Bo and Heater assuming 56M cap (completely fictional and should not be taken seriously):

    1. Trade Souray (5.4), Nilsson (2M), Eberle and a second rounder for Heatley. Net result +0.1M in cap space 50M total.

    2. Trade Staios (2.7M) for a third round pick, bring Peckham (0.7M) up from the minors. Net result -2.0M in cap space 48M total.

    3. Sign J-Bo to replace Souray for 15 years 90M. Net result +6.0M in cap space 54M total.

    4. Trade POS (2.9M) for Harding, sign Harding for 1.9M. Net result -1.0M in cap space 53M total.

    5. Sign Smid (1.5), Grebs (3.0) and Brodz (1.5) for approximately 6M total. Net result +6.0M in cap space 59M total.

    6. Trade Penner (4.25) for whatever can be gotten or waive him and replace him with Gilbert Brule (1M). Net result -3.25M in cap space 55.75M total.

    Heater-Horc-Hemmer
    Brule-Gagner-Cogs
    Moreau-Brodz-Pisani
    Storts-Pouliot-JFJ

    J-Bo-Grebs
    Vish-Gilbert
    Smid-Peckham

    Harding
    JDD

    /Reality on

  • DBO

    just for fun, since robin knows everyone is doing it (and let's be honest, it's the speculation we love as oil fans. Armchair GM's that we all are at heart), but what would it take to fit both under our cap?

    Souray to San jose
    for
    Clowe and SJ 1st round pick

    Gilbert, Penner, Eberle, oil 1st round pick to Ottawa
    for
    Heatley and Jason Smith (take Smith to get them to take Penner)

    Nilsson and SJ 1st rd pick to florida
    for
    Jaybo's rights

    Cap leaving = $15.85m

    Cap coming = $19.6m

    Puts us at $50.5 m. add extra $2 m for grebeshkov deal and we are tied in to a lot of money long term. Man it would have been nice, but as brownlee pointed out, no chance to get both when you factor in a goalie and another forward to round out our roster.

  • Robin Brownlee

    Mark wrote:

    @ Mowzie:
    once again – you’re making the mistake of thinking that anyone will want some of those players for that money (penner and roloson comes to mind first)
    they’ve got the best chance of moving souray and gilbert, but where does that leave the oilers defense core if they pick up heater?

    Not so fast on Souray. He's got a NMC. Do you think he wants to be farher away from his daughters in California?

  • swany

    I would offer Gilbert, Cogs our 10th pick for Heatly, that adds around 1.5 to our cap, then look at trading Souray to the sun belt for a prospect and pick and sign Jay-Bo at a cap hit of 6 mil just strech out the term alla Detroit. So you could get both guys if you didn't get any salary back in the Souray trade (insert laugh here) for an extra 2 mil cap hit that gives you Jay-Bo Grebs Vish Steve, Smid Peckhan, Struds signed CHEAP on the back end and you have the Triple H line with Gagner centering Penner and Patty O

  • Mowzie

    Mark wrote:

    @ Mowzie:
    once again – you’re making the mistake of thinking that anyone will want some of those players for that money (penner and roloson comes to mind first)
    they’ve got the best chance of moving souray and gilbert, but where does that leave the oilers defense core if they pick up heater?

    We won't have to find a partner for Roloson, I mean by not re-signing him, he will come off the books. Penner, I put in parenthesis waived or traded, because I know he might need to be waived or demoted to make room.

  • Mark

    @ Mowzie:

    once again – you're making the mistake of thinking that anyone will want some of those players for that money (penner and roloson comes to mind first)

    they've got the best chance of moving souray and gilbert, but where does that leave the oilers defense core if they pick up heater?

  • Mark

    has anyone bothered to ask if either player really wants to play in Edmonton? is this not a consideration? and how the hell are the Oilers hitting the cap with such a young team?

  • Rick

    This Bouwmeester thing has me a little worried? Is Tambellini taking a KLowe approach and just throwing gobs of cash at whatever comes in range?

    I really hope that come September we don't hear Tambellini trott out that famous line "holy cow, we have a lot of defencemen!"

    I get the Heatley thing, if they can grab him he fills a hole that's been obvious for a long time but Robin, please tell us that this Bouwmeester thing is part of some master plan and series of moves that are already stoking in the fire.

  • Mowzie

    Assuming we can get both Heater and JBO at a 7.5 cap hit.

    We've got to move about 12-14 million to make it work.

    -Gilbert (4)
    -Souray (5.4)
    -Roloson (3.7)
    -Penner (4.25- waived or traded)
    -Moreau (2)

    That's over 19 million freed up. Bring in Zanon/Mara to fill out the defense.

    Bouwmeester-Smid
    Visnovsky-Grebeshkov
    Mara-Staios
    Peckam

  • Wanye Gretz

    Chester Copperpot wrote:

    This place is up and down more than a [insert something witty] at a [insert something witty].

    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Well played Sir/Madam

    *imagines words in spaces that are so hilarious time briefly stops while the world laughs in unison*

  • Chester Copperpot

    We go from saddness over the fact that Souary's house is up for sale to excitement because there are rumours that Edmonton is looking at J-Bo, Heatley and teh #2 pick.

    This place is up and down more than a [insert something witty] at a [insert something witty].

  • humantorch

    OvenChicken8 wrote:

    With their sights set on either player, it looks like Gilbert won’t be wearing Oiler silks next year.

    I'd drive him to the airport if I lived in the right continent.

  • If they can’t get anything done with Murray — maybe he’ll ask the Oilers to top up the deal with $2.5 million at the last second — then it makes sense that Tambellini will turn his attention to Bouwmeester July 1.

    Bless you, Brownlee. That's just a great sentence.