WHAT ABOUT NIK?: TAKING THE HIGH ROAD

Let’s get past goofy talk about the Edmonton Oilers trying to void the contract of goaltender and convicted drunk driver Nikolai Khabibulin now and discuss what should happen next — aside from the shame-faced stopper going to jail for at least 30 days.

While some fans see this conviction as a loophole that might allow the Oilers to duck out of the lousy contract they signed Khabibulin to, that talk is opportunism at its lowest. Likewise, those mounting a convenient moral high horse are talking out their backsides.

Would fans in the weasel-out-of-the-deal camp be looking for the Oilers to dump the contracts of, say, Ales Hemsky or Taylor Hall, based on exactly the same circumstances and convictions?

Not a chance.

Saying so with a straight face in a town where others have been given second chances after more serious legal difficulties is as bogus as the "Pity Poor Nikolai" item apologist Peter Adler inked at The Cult of Hockey on The Journal website. Poor Nikolai? Hardly. Then again, feigning moral outrage to duck out of a bad contract is just as weak.

I’m guessing GM Steve Tambellini and team owner Daryl Katz are too savvy to take that route when Khabibulin’s sentence is dispensed in Arizona on Tuesday.

THE WAY TO GO

Khabibulin has a price to pay for getting behind the wheel of his car while intoxicated and he’ll have to pay it. Given the circumstances, extreme DUI with speed being involved, I’d guess Khabibulin is facing a jail sentence of 60-90 days.

I don’t feel the least bit sorry Khabibulin is facing jail time. I don’t lament that he’s been publicly embarrassed or that his crime garnered him more ink than an average Joe because of who he is and what he does for a living.

That’s part of the deal.

That said, I don’t believe the Oilers, a franchise that gave Craig MacTavish a second chance — one he made good on — need muster some contrived moral outrage to cloak going after a bad contract.

If Tambellini, who’ll address the media Tuesday, and the Oilers want to get out in front of this, they should handle Khabibulin along the same tactful lines as they did in the incident in which Edmonton Capitals manager Brent Bowers spewed venom at gay umpire Bill Vanraaphorst.

A PRICE TO PAY

The obvious start is for Tambellini to condemn, without qualification, the actions of Khabibulin once sentencing is imposed.

The team should also insist Khabibulin publicly take responsibility for his actions when he first faces the media. An apology to fans and his teammates is also probably in order. That’s the easy part.

The way I see it, the next step for the Oilers is to find out if Khabibulin wants or needs help, be it counselling or any other form of treatment, for a drinking problem. Is Khabibulin an alcoholic? I don’t know, but if he is, he needs help. And he must be willing to get it.

Those who have lived with alcoholism, whether it involved the crime of drunk driving or not, understand how damaging it can be. My father was an alcoholic. His failure to get help cost him his marriage, his family, his job and, eventually, his life. When I was 14, my father fell down some stairs in a drunken stupor. He died from a blood clot on the brain.

If Khabibulin has no such demons, if this was a one-off in which he showed terrible judgment by getting behind the wheel after drinking, then that’s one less hurdle for him to clear. That, we don’t know.

MAKING AMENDS

If I was the Oilers, the next step would be to approach Khabibulin and see if he’d be willing to make amends beyond his jail sentence and show remorse, perhaps by speaking out against drunk driving.

That could be by making appearances on behalf of MADD or simply by taking on speaking engagements with fans or school-aged youngsters in the community. Like it or not, the actions, be they good or bad, of NHL players like Khabibulin carry a lot of weight with fans.

I can’t say I know Khabibulin well and if he’d be comfortable with taking on something like that, but something along those lines would certainly be a way of mending fences — like the Oilers did by having Vanraaphorst tell his story in Edmonton.

Offering the option, to my way of thinking, would be a better approach. Handling it this way would send a better message to fans, not to mention players here and around the NHL, than huffing and puffing and trying to undo a deal Khabibulin and the Oilers agreed to.

— Listen to Robin Brownlee Wednesdays and Thursdays from 4 p.m. to 6 p.m. on the Jason Gregor Show on TEAM 1260.

  • Spector on Gregor’s show touched on the idea that our goalie may in fact have a real problem with the drink… point one six oh! has you pretty pissed up yes? double the oh! eight limit and our goalie was NOT in falling down pissed shape as per police reports…hence maybe Spec is right> our goalie’s been a hardcore drinker for a long long while nyet?

    He (MS) also eluded to how the Charles of Barkley did 3 days only in Tent City for HIS celebrity DUI…so, our goalie should get his treatment programs finished, fines paid off, do his few days in the canvas crowbar hotel and get his butt to training camp where he can start to show us how the back surgery went.

    what’s the over/under though, on how many games he plays until snap goes the weasle, errr back again. And one more thing …Memo to the new Oiler medical staff: take blood samples of our goalie >>> test liver enzyme levels stat!

    • Spector is out to lunch on that idea, if he’s basing it purely on the blood alcohol level Bulin registered. Have you ever blown into a breathalizer? I have but not because I was DUI, but a buddy of mine is a cop, and for the heck of it one night while leaving the bar, I wanted to see what I’d register. I had at least 10 drinks in a 4 hour span, and I blew .168. I was still standing, although, I was feeling really good. In no way am I a problem drinker. I’ll have a couple over the weekend, and every so often, I’ll have a night like I did the night I took a breath test. I’m around the same build if maybe a bit taller than Bulin, so, for Spector to say that Nik possibly could have a problem is a shot in the dark if anything.

      • Or it could be totally true. People who drink alot have an incredible tolerance. Man, I’ve seen it first hand. What might put most of us under the table just puts them in their happy place. Judging others by what might affect you isn’t totally fair, nor accurate.

        As far as this whole Khabby thing goes, why not give it a rest. He got caught and convicted. 30 days was the penalty and it might be less. He’ll serve whatever he’ll serve. It won’t affect any of us one bit. Like Robin said, it would be nice to see him make amends.

        His contract won’t get voided just because half the fans in town see it as as easy out. If he comes back and plays half decent, keeping us in games we have no right being in (and something tells me that’ll happen alot this year) we’ll all be saying what a great goalie he is.

        No offense to Robin who penned another great article, but Sam Gagner is coming to town ready for war. That’s something to talk about in my opinion.

      • Jason Gregor

        Did you drive? Did you think you were able to drive? If he thought he was okay and drove and blew that much, maybe he does have a bit of a a problem. No one knows. He joined NHL substance abuse program, and while that might be a move to lessen his jail time, it might be a sign he needs to curb his drinking. When a person drives with that much booze in their system it isn’t right. It was more than an innocent mistake.

        • Gilmore Tuttle

          And if this is a chronic problem, how many times has this type of behavior happened without being detected? At some point, the odds were going to catch up with him and everyone is lucky that it didn’t end tragically.

        • Crackenbury

          First of all, no I didn’t drive or even thought I should. I know better than that, although I will admit I have in my younger years, foolishly, driven when I’m certain I was over the legal limit. It was a dumb move, and I’m lucky as hell that I didn’t hurt someone or myself. Did I have a drinking problem? I certainly thought I didn’t, nor did anyone ever tell me that they thought I did. I guess I’m struggling with the idea that just because someone gets a DUI, it means they have a drinking problem.

  • cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan

    I assume the wall is not a Canunk citizen and liley not an American. He will need a waiver to get back in Canada and will have to convince the hearing oficer he is not a danger. He (or the Oilers)will be spending a lot of money on lawyers

  • Lofty

    I don’t condone drinking and driving but I think its fair that a first time offender gets the minimum sentence. I don’t see any celebrity bias involved.

    A lot of states don’t have any jail-time for an offenders first DUI or DWI. If this happened in Texas or Arkansas Khabi would have paid a fine and been on his marry way.

    I think the Judge made the right call and I wish Khabi would accepted it and not appealed just for the sake of keeping the issue in limbo…

    I guess that’s easy when A) I didn’t do the crime and B) I don’t have to do the time.

  • cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan

    barkley wasn’t charged with extreme dui. between .08 and .15 the judge has the option of reducing the 10 day sentence by up to 9 days. so that is what happened to charles.

    the judge can reduce an extreme dui (over .15) sentence by up to 20 days, this did not happen and if his sentence stands after appeal he will do 30 days.

  • SkinnyD

    Any idea why he’d appeal? That just seems weird considering he got the minimum…doesn’t give the impression that he’s taking responsibility for his actions and subsequent consequences.

  • Legoman

    I don’t condone what he did, but its done!!! He is going to jail. Awsome!!! First offence Jail time. If only our system was this tough. BUT!!!! I am not about to throw this man under the bus and wish for some morality clause to get him out of Edmonton. He has yet to win the fans in Edmonton and what I saw in those first 14 games last year was a number #1 Goaltender. 20 games in, if it is Nik he is going to turn some heads. I want to see him show what he can do. He made a mistake and hes going to pay for it. Lets Move on. The team has no choice but to stand behind him and do what they can. After all Edmonton gave Mac T a fair shake.

  • JohnQPublic

    Rekab didn’t actually damage anyone. The MacT/Heatley thing doesn’t really apply. And since there is no damaged party, I too would totally try and get off.

    I can’t really drive drunk, but maybe he can. Does that make him a criminal? I just don’t see it.

    • Gilmore Tuttle

      Have you been drinking tonight? That is one of the dumbest things I have heard. Yes it does make him a criminal. Maybe when you stop seeing double, you will see it!!

        • Gilmore Tuttle

          So you are comparing reading an “illegal” book to driving a car at twice the speed limit while drunk out of your mind? I guess that makes him a criminal twice!

          Sorry, I am not willing to have a battle of whits with an unarmed opponent.

          • Your trying to make a connection, it appears. Its a simple question of law: do you believe that there is a violation of law with no damaged party? You can, but that doesn’t make me a criminal. Or, if 50 people decided they should have a meeting in you’re living room, do you have to let them thru?

            I’m not suggesting anything more than that I to would try and get out of that rap, irregardless of what you and your friends think of the maxim in “no harm, no foul”.

          • Luckily, we dont live in anarchy and we have a system in place to determine and enforce the law.

            Neither mine nor your beliefs determine your status as a criminal. However, if you get caught commiting a crime and are found guilty in a court of law, THAT makes you a criminal.

            As far as your idiot “no harm no foul” criminal policy, I’m glad the ACTUAL authorities dont play crime-not-a-crime with that in mind.

          • “An action is not given to him who is not injured.” [Jenk. Cent. 69]

            I do believe that the foundations of British Law is Roman Civil Code, and thusly the foundation of Canadian Law. Further, I’ve got book, chapter and verse.

            While I cannot condone actions that could put another in jeopardy, I simply can’t see him being required to spend a month in pink underwear. And I don’t make up the law.

            Maybe we could all take strides to govern ourselves instead.

          • book¡e

            In some of your comments, you refer to common law as the basis of law, but in fact, the constitution (in both Canada and the USA) is the basis of law. The constitutions grant governments at national and state/provincial level the right to pass laws as long as they are in-line with the constitution.

            Laws have been passed regarding drunk driving and have withstood constitutional challenges. These laws are constitutionally valid because drunk drivers pose an increased risk to others in society.

            It would be very difficult to pass a law banning Harry Potter books as it would not stand up through the courts as it would be an unreasonable infringement on the rights of citizens.

          • Jerk Store

            The foundation of the constitution are the Laws of Britain, correct? Common law, the opinions of people at large, would apparently make Nik a criminal easily. Doesn’t make it a violation of law, and it doesn’t make Nik a bad guy. Short on decision making, possibly selfish, but I don’t think we need to run him out of town (as Oiler fans have done to so many) then wonder why people don’t want to play here.

            Again, I will never advocate something as reckless as drinking and driving, but I will stand up for a guy who appeals a sentence when no one has been hurt, I will stand up for a guy who speaks in potentially altruistic ways (Souray) and I will definitely stand for KLo again and again and again. All three, imo, have been unfairly (repeatedly) attacked by the angry ON mob, and I will continue to go to bat for them and others right in the face of group think when said group wield verdicts based primarily on emotion.

            Really, when its all boiled down, I want to see some decent players choose to stay and I wonder how inciting mob mentality helps. Defending them, on the other hand, might.

            (Just for kicks I’ll add that I love it most when people attack me personally, because then I know they’re too simple to defeat me on rational grounds. While names that include crack, jerk, and spaz should be message enough, its nice that they’re each so kind to actually post something and thus remove all doubt.)

          • Gilmore Tuttle

            don’t be too hard on him, he’s probably typing right now on his laptop while speeding along the highway at 200km/h drinking some Jack D

            To him khabi is probably a boy scout.

    • This mindless idiocy you’re spouting, this “the-rules-don’t-apply-to-me” because (fill in rationalization of choice here) mentality is just you trying to draw a reaction, right?

      Is your basic comprehension of right and wrong, not to mention the laws of the land, this lacking? Is your intellect and ability to think in terms of simple common sense this stunted? Really?

  • When you roll up to an intersection with no stop lights, do you still stop?

    If we all chose to govern ourselves maybe we wouldn’t need all the hundred million statues currently called law.

    Gentlemen, fun times. I gotta go to bed.

    • “If we all chose to govern ourselves maybe we wouldn’t need all the hundred million statues currently called law.”

      Or maybe when some people dont think that anything is a crime until somebody is injured, it’s better to have the law as we know it.

    • cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan

      it appears as though madjam and jasmine(narnia) had a love child who goes by the name vishcosity….

      if we chose to govern ourselves, i can say with certainty you would be one of the first hung by what little pecker he has and beaten..

      honestly, harry potter? he didnt hurt anyone so he should try and get off?

  • Kabby is paying a steep price for a night out on the town. When I was a teen we used to swap stories about who drove home from what party and what crazy stuff happened. Times have changed and so have my actions and view towards that behaviour. Either way I still feel for Khabby as I would be sh*ttin myself if I knew I was going to jail.

    I hope his future actions and others who have heard his story are changed for the better.

    Good luck Khabby.

  • Cheesenaka

    While I can understand him wanting to avoid jail-time or reduce his sentence by making the appeal, this just drags this drama into training camp and beyond. It’s a distraction to the team. I’m really disappointed that he hasn’t taken ANY responsibility for his actions.

    We have to accept responsibility for our actions, accept the consequences, move on and try to be a better person.

  • Quicksilver ballet

    I can’t understand why a number of people feel Khabby owes the Oiler faithful anything, why do we still feel we need to rip that pound of flesh off of him? He’s not even a Canadian citizen, makes his home in a foreign country where the offence was committed, and wasn’t representing the Edmonton Oiler hockey club at the time of the offence.

    He’ll pay his debt to the State of Arizona and be done with it. He owes nothing to Oiler Nation or the city of Edmonton on this matter.

    If the Oilers and their Holier than thou standards are so offended by Nikolais’ actions, then they should buy him out and let everyone know actions like these will not be tolerated at the very next opportunity to do so, but we all know very well this will never happen.

    • Gilmore Tuttle

      I might be wrong, but wasn’t he watching the Oilers play the Coyotes? Isn’t that representing the hockey club at some level?

      Because he isn’t a Canadian citizen, as a convicted felon, he may have a little issue getting across the border to practice and play with the team that is paying his salary. He might not owe anything to Oiler Nation but I would dare say he owes something to the Oilers as an organization – especially as they are risking their reputation to help him get this through the government bureaucracy.

  • An excerpt that may provide some clarity as to the reasoning behind Nikki Rehab’s appeal
    (via Tyler @mc79hockey)

    http://battleofalberta.blogspot.com/2010/08/justice-delayed-is-contract-youre-stuck_31.html

    With the punditry complete, the momentous day came. Unlike the 60-90 days predicted by some (on what basis, I have no idea), Khabibulin got the minimum sentence – thirty days in jail and various fines and counselling. There was a twist though, afterwards – his lawyer announced that he’s filed a notice of appeal. This is, I think, the end of the game as far as voiding his contract goes. Appeals generally take some time to make their way through to a hearing – I have a follower on Twitter who does appellate work in California who’d be more familiar with American timelines than I am and he suggested that it wouldn’t be unreasonable for this appeal not to be heard before April of next year. You can also abandon an appeal so, in Khabby’s case, he could withdraw his appeal as soon as the Oilers’ season is finished, in April. He would have to report to jail at that time.

    The only realistic shot, as far as I can tell, was having him miss some time while he dealt with the fallout from this. If he can put an appeal into next summer, he can withdraw it then if he wants and serve his jail time in the summer. It’s a tactical thing but it’s well done. Provided he’s available to the Oilers from the day training camp opens to the day that their season is done, they can’t make the argument to terminate his deal on the basis of a failure to be available to them and they’re left with the much more nebulous argument that he somehow tarnished the team’s image. Predictably, Steve Tambellini offered a “No comment” when asked about attempting to void Khabibulin’s deal that is a) likely to fuel speculation that the Oilers will attempt to do it, b) seemingly at odds with their contention that Khabibulin is the kind of goalie who is the best player on the team and c) if my California lawyer follower is accurate, probably a sure loser of a grievance if they do pursue it.

    What we don’t know, and we’ll probably never know, is the extent to which the Oilers were serious about taking a run at him if they got the chance to do so. There are some indications at least that Khabibulin perceives that they were interested in doing so. Waiving the right to jury trial despite having previously indicated he wanted one when he couldn’t have a jury trial before training camp suggests that. While I haven’t seen the reasons of the judge from the trial yet, I’ve got my doubts that he’s got any really solid grounds of appeal – unless the judge botched things, this was a pretty straightforward question of fact trial. One would think as well that, if he had to do 30 days in jail and he could either miss camp or risk not being available, however small that risk might be, during the season, that the Oilers would prefer he not appeal and risk serving his sentence in February or March.

    • Crackenbury

      The excerpt makes sense. As soon as I heard about the appeal, I thought it was done for this reason. ST’s reaction to the appeal supports it as well. I find it hard to believe, but it looks like the Oilers may have been prepared to try and void his contract. It also looks like the 2 camps haven’t been talking to each other, otherwise the immediate appeal wouldn’t have been a surprise to ST. The only option left to the Oilers is to do nothing.

  • Jerk Store

    Why are we even giving this vishidiocy guy a response (realizing I am doing the same thing)?

    As my pops used to say “never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience”.

  • Crackenbury

    oh yes gersh i have blown…twice…for DUI…in ’82 and in ’92, actually the night Marty McSorley’s stick blade was measured in Game2 during the Kings vs Habs Cup run that year.And we all know how that turned out. Like all serial drunk drivers i didn’t learn anything from the first time. I was 6’3″ weighed 225 drank my Lemon Heart and Cokes ALL nite long both times and blew a hundred both times. Now cops don’t even charge at a hundred but alas i was charged both times pleaded guilty to the first one and fought the second one to plead guilty to careless driving almost two years later.Unlike you kid, I WAS a problem drinker and that’s why you blew .168 when you did…you simply didn’t practice enough & so on July 24th 2001 I quit the drink & I’m still Done.
    Our goalie could be in the same place I was because it’s not difficult to hide the behaviors if you are distant and non-committal via a quiet unassuming personality such as his. None of this, including his right to appeal makes our goalie a bad person,it just casts him in a bad light. It’s a darkness that you tend to feel comfortable in when you drink the way our goalie might be drinking.Sure as hell though, when the arresting officer “heard the Ferrari(coming out of second gear at 75mph) before he actually saw the Ferrari” our goalie had had a good long while to drink & decide in his impaired state to go out and take his race car for a spin. I’d bet he had done this before, I’m thinking many times but just hadn’t been caught YET.It’s why drunk drivers drive drunk y’know …they don’t think they’re gonna get caught but it’s really just a matter of time til they do. I say man up Nik, get this, YOUR personal matter cleaned up, do the ten twenty or thirty days and get back to the team you owe your services
    to A S A P. (As Sober As Possible) But he’s paranoid and he has a lawyer, so he’ll take his appeal to avert any chance of the team firing his contract which we ALL know won’t ever happen but…It’ll be hanging over his pinhead all year long & that’ll just keep him in his own private torture chamber…until he goes on the LTDL again …i hope it’s longer than last year. Or do I…we need to suck for another year or two for the rebuild yes? Our goalie won’t even be around when we win another Cup anyway.

  • Crackenbury

    No harm, No foul. He didn’t kill anyone while behind the wheel. This time. I work at the Royal Alexander Hospital. Go to unit 33(Neurology) and see the results of what happen even when you don’t “kill” someone. Someone dosen’t need to die to have thier lives ruined by alcohol. I see men and women everday who’s lives are ruined by alcohol and drugs. It affects all ages, races and ethnicities. Alcohol has no favorites. Thank you Robin for sharing your story about your father. You don’t need to drink and drive and kill someone to have a negative impact on peoples lives. I personally do not drink.Full stop. Nothing. Not a sip of sacremental wine. Nothing. By choice. I haven’t had a drink in 14 years. My reason. I married a woman who gives me more happiness than a bottle of beer ever could. She also dosen’t drink. My son is 7 years old and has and will never see us drunk, stoned or smoking. The deal is that life is too short to spend it at the bottom of a bottle. I respect those who know when to say when. Its the minority who I have issue with and have no time for. NK needs to look at the man in the mirror and ask himself ” Is it worth it?”

  • Crackenbury

    First things first . The league by “jurish prudence” would never win a grievance which would be filed by union if they ever tried to void Khabby’s contract . That’s a given union grievance win , and should never have to go by stage one of a grievance procedure . They could try it ,and try and set a new precedent , but they would stand less than a .1% chance of ever winning it at arbitration level . Confrontational avenue would prove to be worse case scenario for all involved , and it could prove to be long, drawn out and costly ,and the end verdict would be an easy union win .

    They could try and fine him within in the context of CBA and possibly win , however , depending on the severity of fine and severity of the offence .

    Bettmans no dummy , i doubt he will use confrontational approach with current CBA .

  • dAMagEd

    vishcosity has been attending to many “Freeman on the Land” seminars. Its messed up his reality.

    I will say however, reading Harry Potter may not be against the law but it is a crime, and therefore you are a criminal if you do so.

    As per Websters Dictionary: “CRIME – something reprehensible, foolish, or disgraceful “

  • According to Rishaug, Tambellini was asked about the possibility of voiding Nik’s contract. The response was, “No Comment.”

    Not, “No.”

    Not, “The Oilers have no interest in voiding player contracts.”

    hmmmm…

    • 4 months ago Tambellini was going on and on about the “Oilers family”, “the need for players wanting to be a part of the organization” and the whole ‘all for one and one for all’ attidude.

      It reminded me of Sather’s old policy when he was dealing with the boys on the bus and told them that if they ever got in trouble the first call to make wasn’t to their agent or parents but to him and he would take care of it. Apparently they were a pretty tight group…

      I wonder how would cutting Khabibulin loose fit in with that plan?

      The Oilers can still make an example out of Khabibulin without punting him to the curb. In the process they would preserve their mission statement and not come off looking like asses for feigning indignation when it’s all about correcting a bad business decision.

    • Ender

      I think that was what Tambellini would have been instructed to say by both his legal team and his PR department. As evidenced by the comments here and the poll, public opinion is split down the middle here and people tend to feel very strongly about their opinions one way or the other. And that’s not even talking about what Nik’s lawyer, the NHLPA, or the NHL might try to do with a defined comment.

      If Tambi had stated any preference, he would have angered at least one of the camps and invited protest and backlash. By saying ‘no comment’, he staves off anyone who tries to say the team is missing the ‘correct’ point of view.

      Political correctness – it’s bland, but in the long run it’s smart.

      • I get the PC response, the “no comment” line is more intriguing than bland though. That line is infamous. To the average person it conveys guilt more so than it does neutrality. Personally, I think any member of PR that still pushes that line should re-evaluate what message they’re trying to convey.

        • GLoKz0r

          While I agree with you about what “no comment” conveys, I wouldn’t expect either PR folks or Lawyers to adjust their willingness to use it… Ever. Both these folks play by one rule: don’t say anything you can’t back peddle on unless it’s something you’re 100% sure you want to say. It’s a cardinal rule.

          In law and PR you have to be every bit as worried about what a statement ACTUALLY says as you are about what it could convey.

          All this statement actually says is “I’m not prepared to talk about that”.

  • Ender

    There are all kinds of laws on the books that address potential risk, not consequences after the fact. DUI laws have been changing: yup….. that is called progress. We do not ofetn see young kids play lawn darts with their neighbours out on their front lawn. Both for civil liability issues but more importantly because we are no longer so foolish.

    Archaeologuy wrote: “no comment”

    I tend to agree with you that there is more there than doing what legal beagles and PR flacks say. I suspect the Oilers are keeping there options open.

    One thing that is clear that NK is prolonging this process as long as humanly possible. What happens if his apeal is heard in February and it is denied? Number 1 goaltender is incarcerated just as playoff drive hits full throttle. At that point in time if I am the Oilers I void his contract because of his level of selfishness

  • Dyckster

    I too was hoping Nik would take his lumps, serve his time, return to Edmonton with an apology and humble approach to life in tow, and then proceed to play lights out for 50 games or so….

    Team 1260’s Meg Morrison suggested perhaps he could serve his 30 days next summer, would he have to go through the appeal process to negotiate that?

    • Ender

      As has been reported in the previous comments, probably not.

      The appeals process takes a long, long time in the USA. Chances are, his appeal won’t be heard until at least April when the Oilers season is finished. If it comes up before then, I’m positive Khabbi’s legal team can find a way to stall it for awhile.

      The key is that the appeal can be voluntarily withdrawn at any time. This means that once Khabbi is done with playing hockey, he can simply withdraw his appeal and serve his 30 (or less) days – essentially serve his time at his convenience. After all, there’s little to be gained by actually going to court for the appeal; I have to think his odds of being acquitted on any of the charges are low based on the arguments his attourney offered in court the first time and he certainly can’t hope to do any better with the sentence.

  • Dyckster

    Was an “no comment ” appropriate enough ? Perhaps interviewer and Tams missed an opportunity here to explain Tams reasoning for taking that stance,thereby giving more clarity to it . The context almost appears like a sitting on the fence approach ,and pleading the fifth amendment . Neither of which i’m sure Tams wanted to relay . Was his comment confrontational ? I’m sure he didn’t want to relay that either , but maybe could be taken that way .

    • Gilmore Tuttle

      Yes, he got caught this time but how many other times has this happened?

      He also likely got caught in the wrong town. How many Oilers and Eskimos have been given rides home over the years instead of being busted? The boys in the bus group who are now local heroes were no angels. Now I am not naive enough to think that rich people, cops and judges don’t get the same special treatment too but does that make it right?

      The issue now is that he is appealing his conviction and/or sentence – which is his right – we don’t know which. There are some who feel that that is just a ploy to keep his contract by showing up to training camp as there doesn’t seem to be much to appeal on the conviction and he received the minimum sentence.

      He is risking something though as it is still possible for the appeals judge to decide that the conviction stands and that his original sentence was too soft. It might be karma if he ended up with 3 months and a $50k fine.

  • Jerk Store

    Ok. I am breaking my arguing with a moron rule (when will I learn?)

    So by your “logic” a man who recklessly fires a gun into a crowd, but miraculuosly hits no one should NOT be charged with a crime?

    I can’t believe I got sucked into the Vishidiocy vortex where common sense goes to die. Congrats, you win. I bit on yet another of your asinine viewpoints.

  • Jerk Store

    Many thanks. I will wear the palm print as a badge of honor. However if goat leggings and nipple clamps are involved in Club initiation, I may have to reconsider.