WJC: Thanks for the memories, Team Canada

Regardless of what Willis has to say about Jordan Eberle’s future in the NHL, I can’t help but be beaming at this young man’s performance in the World Junior Tournament. Whether he’s breaking out, or in some kind of weird career Twilight Zone of Goodness right now isn’t really that important to me.

OK, it *is* important. Or rather, it will be important once the memories of the tournament fade. Because despite the fact that Canada lost the gold-medal match (to an outstanding Team USA, can I just say), Eberle was the tournament MVP, and right now we honour his contribution to Canadian hockey.

Later on this week, we can resume the hand-wringing. Right now, let’s be proud he’s playing for the good guys.

Also, to the people of Saskatchewan: you are a classy bunch of hosts, and the way you all cheered on Team USA when they won the game last night was astonishing and inspirational. A lesser audience might have filed out quietly. A douchier audience would have booed, but not you. You applauded a well-fought tournament, and a winning Team USA. You’ve done this Nation proud.

In the words of CanucksArmy General Cam Davie: "The fans in Saskatoon are showing insane amounts of class. Good on ya.

To Team USA: We’ll see you boys next year. Oh yes. We will.

Now I feel like eating a sandwich…

  • good point cableguy. Is this city going to overwhelm eberle before he even plays here for real. Nothing like telling a kid everything is riding on him. He's Terry Joneses sweetheart topic right now but what happens when ole TJ turns on the boy? Too many junior players tear it up there, have all these expectations they have a hard time living up to (Alex Daigle) and become footnotes in history. But I can tell already this town is going to ask way too much from this kid from day one. Hope I'm wrong, but history tends to repeat itself.

  • GSC

    As an American citizen and a Canadian hockey fan, last night was every bit as fantastic as I could have hoped for…regardless of who won, I was going to come home from the bar drunk and happy. Fast, intense hockey with a ridiculous amount of drama late in the 3rd and in OT. For me, it's ten times better than watching the NHL at this time of year.

    To put this win for Team USA in perspective, however, consider this: The only reason the local Ohio bar I was at put the game on was because I, along with 5 Canadians who just happened to be passing through town, asked for it. No one else had a fricking clue what was going on…and that continued throughout the night, as even Carlson's beauty winning goal evoked no sort of emotion from any local folks present. Everyone else was too busy watching Iowa-Georgia Tech in the Orange Bowl.

    It's hard to be such a diehard hockey connoisseur, as people down this way could give a damn less. It's probably why I find myself cheering for Team Canada over my native country in olympic and world junior hockey. It means so much more to everyone up North than it does State-side. As I put it to my new-found Toronto friend at the bar last night when he asked why nobody cared that their country just won a Gold medal, "Canada losing the Gold is bigger news than the USA winning it."

    And as for Eberle, all I can say is CLUTCH.

  • Arby

    MPS looked better than Kadri, Cowan (obviously), AND Ellis. I wonder wich one we would have ended up with if MPS was gone. I suspect we would have traded down ala Nash/Plante.

    On the subject of Hall, I was probably most impressed with his speed and effort on the backcheck.

    To be honest, I don't really like the idea of Ebs being on Gags wing. Ever. But with a big skilled center (not that we will have one) i think he would excell.

  • Petr's Jofa

    I think Willy D bought himself a life sentence to the DUB.

    Of interest to the Oilers MPS was WAY better than Ellis in the tourney which means dick all (in a future relative to the draft) but was nice to see. Also of interest (if you lean that way)… Nemicz was largely a non factor (for ross creek ;-)….)

    Great event… saskatoon rolled out the red carpet, had 1700 volunteers, awesome Worldfest venue, huge 50/50 draws… and generally just took care of the business of hosting a big event. They pulled it off with aplomb IMO.
    The event also provided great access to the powers of the NHL, Olympics, Hockey Canada etc. very cool event. Chatted with Babcock, Nicholson, Lowe, tambo, Niewendyke, mcguire, mckenzie, duthie, koulious, miller.

    Did ya catch that brilliant question from Terry Jones of the Sun at the Olympic announcement? We started laughing and got the hairy eyeball, then one of the group spouts off… can I answer that Steve? I thought koulie was going to piss himself.

    Had fun.. glad its over… Im fat and my liver hurts.

  • Rogue

    Jeez,dont be so hard on Hall. He is only 17. Oil have grown men that make more mistakes and put up less production than him. Give the kid a chance to mature.
    My hope is that Eberle is a Joey Mullen, Haken Loob kind of player. I just think he thinks the game better than a lot of players. He makes space and finds the gaps. Hope he can do it at NHL level.

    ~~~~Of course, they could both turn out to be 3rd line players, too.~~

  • Eddie Shore

    *wipes the sand off his feet*

    Did you guys know that it's super hot in Hawaii? And there's beautiful girls everywhere? And it's way easier to swallow a heartbreaking loss when you get to read about it on a balcony over looking the ocean while you soak up all sorts of skin cancer?

    I'm gonna try and find some kind of rich, widowed snowbird to shack up with me thinks, because I never wanna leave!

    Have fun watching your "iced hockey"!**

    *runs naked into the ocean and gets eaten by a shark*

    **I actually watched the Ducks/Wings game and some of the Hawks/Wild game yesterday. Surprising amount of hockey coverage on this little island.

    • Gerald R. Ford

      It's warm enough in Edmonton right now to wear shorts. At least, that's what the fool I saw tonight at the grocery store thought. And, these weren't Bermuda shorts. They were like, sitting-around-the-pool-drinking-beer-and-if-I'm-not-careful-my-package-is-going-flop-out shorts. The endless line of stunned shoppers, mouths agape, watching Spicoli saunter through the store in his shorts and sandals was priceless. Certainly, a potential 2010 Darwin Awards candidate.

      On the bright side, Wanye will be happy to know that PowerAde is on sale again, at a drastically reduced price.

    • cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan

      jokes on you, we found your car at the airport and dumped a 4L jug of urine all over the dash

      enjoy the smell when you come back to -30 and crank on the heat

    • Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach

      It looks as though both those years were really bad years for the draft and they may have been touted as the best of a bad bunch. Myself…I hate the idea of taking a D-man with a high pick. They are so much more of a crap shoot than forwards and inevitably take longer to develop into solid pros.

  • Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach

    Not related but this should take away the slim chance there ever was at getting Steckel.

    The Washington Capitals on Wednesday signed center David Steckel to a three-year contract extension and agreed to a two- year deal with defenseman Tyler Sloan.

  • Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach

    @ Crash

    Points are great he just didn't seem shine in clutch situations ala Jonh Tavares or Eberle. Fact is no number 1 pick is ever a lock to make the NHL and Taylor Hall is no exception in my opinion.

    • Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach

      Just had a quick look….I went as far back as 1984 when Mario Lemieux was taken 1st overall. It looks based on modern history that in fact if there ever is such a thing as a lock to make the NHL it is the number one pick. With the exception of Alexandre Daigle in 1993 and Patrik Stefan in 1999 all the other 24 2st rounders have either had a very successful NHL career or have started out having what looks like will be a successful NHL career. Rick Dipietro might be up for debate as his injury situation makes it tough.

  • Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach

    ~If that Eberle kid doesn't come in here next year and take the Oil straight to the cup I'm going to be real disappointed~

    Regardless of how his NHL career transpires he's one classy kid and is now arguably the greatest Canadian Junior player of all time when it comes to this tournament.

    On another note I wasn't exactly impressed with Taylor Hall over the past few games and am a little concerned over the whole D45 scenario. Could be Alexander Daigle all over again.

    • offside

      I agree, Hall didn't impress me much at all, he is still young, but he didn't seem like a team player, seemed pretty selfish.
      Hall also seemed to take some big hits during the tournament.
      Also, is it just me or did Petriangelo seem like a huge defensive liability out there? Sure he put up points but I bet in the NHL he's a minus player.

    • BBOil

      Taylor Hall…6 goals, 6 assists, tied for 3rd overall in tournament scoring including 1 goal and 2 assists in the gold medal final…

      What were you expecting from Hall?

          • Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach

            The biggest problem is the guys that are ranked #1 overall get so much hype by the media and then people expect them to be the next Crosby or Ovechkin.

          • Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach

            Well I guess given that 9 out of the last 10 forwards taken 1st overall are Tavares, Stamkos, P. Kane, Crosby, Ovechkin, Rick Nash, Kovalchuk and Lecavalier I can see why there would be some hype. I agree there are people who get high expectations and that will never change. But there are also those of us that appreciate talent and are encouraged and hopeful that the talent will shine through at the NHL level. History shows that top 3 picks tend to turn out to be very good NHLers. I do like Hall's chances and yes I know there's no guarantee.

  • OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F

    I hate to be a party pooper, but Trenton just put up some starteling numbers on Eberle in the last thread…. and since they seem to die when a new one comes up:

    "Too lazy to look up the full list but the WHL site says Eberle in 28GP has:

    20 PPG, 13 PPA, 3EVG, 18EVA, 6SHG, 0SHA.

    So 55% of his production is on the PP, 35% at EV and 10% SH."

    3 EVG's is a frieghtening number. I'm glad we have him, and he's certainly a top notch prospect, but lets temper expectations a little.

    • BBOil

      May want to recheck those goal totals.

      WHL site has:
      29G – 13PPG, 6SHG
      Seems to me that would make 10EVG.

      That being said, I understand using stats to evaluate players, but I personally like to look at how the player plays combined with stats he puts up. Watching Eberle play I think it is quite obvious that he is a smart player that thinks his way around the ice and knows where he needs to be to get the puck in the back of the net. Look at his first goal last night. He re-adjusted his positioning slightly (moved back a foot or two, opening up the passing lane just enough for him to have the opportunity to score). Lots of players would have stood pat thinking they are open, and the defender gets his stick on the puck. Thats what excites me about Eberle. Lots of players put up points, but I'm more concerned with what they do that allows them to put up those points.

    • OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F

      it will be interesting to see if Eberle will bring his style of play to the NHL, 'cause the junior numbers don't matter much, in my opinion.

      now, who do we have on this Oilers roster that can come out and score a goal when you need it? ah…nobody!

      (oh, I forgot, we have one that can dangle…does that count?)

      i really hope between Gags, Ebs, MPS and Smid, this organization builds some great young leadership core. that's what we need.

      btw: how about Cam Fowler iso T.Hall?

    • Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach

      That is probably about the worse set of stats that we could've seen for him, although the 6SHG makes you take a second look.

  • Bucknuck

    There is something to be said for underselling and overdelivering. That is not likely to happen with Pendergast around. Also, as fans we tend to be optimistic because hope is a wonderful thing. Hope sells tickets, which is the marketing people's jobs.

    • Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach

      After the Oilers were said to be icing a competitive team I started doing my own research when opinions by the team and media were thrown out there. If the research backs the opinions then great, but 9 out of 10 times it doesn't.

  • After Gagner won a tournament MVP in the Canada-Russia Super Series, I'm not falling for this again.

    Great tournament for Eberle. Let's hope he's one of the rare shrimps that can take it to the next level.

      • cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan

        pissing on what parade? everyone and the dog is circle jerking around their eberle posters now, thumping their chests because he is oiler property.

        some are just trying to suggest that perhaps a little caution is in order. maybe let the kid see if he can actually make the NHL and start to produce…..

        dont get me wrong, i really, really, hope eberle turns into a great NHL player. problem is, a great junior career or great world juniors does not always equal NHLer…

        • GSC

          I'm not into circle jerks, I like to handle that chore myself (I know how I like it!), so count me out of that group. Call it optimism on my part and liking what I see, but don't call it ridiculous expectation that he's the second coming because that's not the case. For once, I see a prospect to really get excited about…and I didn't get very excited about Gags.

          We're all well aware that there is caution in order, but why is it that articles like this always seem to come out when the mainstream media speak highly on a certain player/prospect? It's the never-ending fight between the MSM and the bloggers. While I enjoy critique and other theories/opinions out there, it's getting out of hand.

          • OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F

            "We're all well aware that there is caution in order,"

            No, no we aren't. I had to listen to half a dozen guys last night on my beer league team talk about the merits of giving Eberle the C next year.

            "Crosby got it pretty quick, so did Toews. Why shouldn't Eberle??"

          • OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F

            Sadly I did.

            They are the same guys that wanted to give up on Smid after one year, blamed all of last year on MacT and like to play the salary game though, so they need to be taken with a grain of salt.

          • GSC

            You're lumping us in with the beer leaguers who have no idea what they're talking about? I'm talking about the "we" as in the readers of this site, apparently we aren't on the same page.

            Again, those of us with half a brain don't need to have this stuff shoved down our throats. I think you can agree with that, no?

          • OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F

            Yes I am, obviously their are a handful of intilligent posters here, but I've seen a pile of sheep as well.

            Shoved down your throat? Simple solution is to skip the article.

          • cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan

            Again, those of us with half a brain don't need to have this stuff shoved down our throats. I think you can agree with that, no?

            sweet jesus YES!!!

          • cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan

            We're all well aware that there is caution in order

            have you read some of the stuff on here and other boards? "caution" isnt even in the equation for some, and to raise the thought that maybe, just maybe, eberle might not be the greatest thing since sliced bread is almost looked at as grounds for the bobbit treatment.

            perspective tends to go out the window. how many have seen eberle play more than the couple games on TV during the junior tournie? I, for one, can say i have seen him play live once. can i make my stance based on what the talking heads say?

            maybe its the years of mediocrity that have jilted my views on things. maybe its all the robbie schremp flashbacks that make me leery.

          • cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan

            Let me know if I have this right…

            Eberle is arguably the best player in all the CHL this year; he was Canada's best player in the final last and this year; he was the tournament MVP this year; Tambo claimed him to have created the most in all his time here this preseason; but because Gagner has not lived up to te unreal expectations put on him as a teenager and Schremp was a bust fans are not allowed or supposed to be excited that we may see him in the NHL next year. OK.

          • You'll most likely see Eberle in the NHL next year. There's no doubt Oil Fan should be pumped about Eberle. BUT you know there's people thinking he'll probably put up 60-65 points next year. Maybe set the bar a bit lower, say 30-40 points next year. That's doable. And hey, IF he put up mass points, then BONUS RUM's for everybody! Just dial it down a notch (not you specifically, just generally speaking)..

          • cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan

            not right at all.

            fans, myself included, should be excited about eberle and what he MIGHT be able to do in the NHL.

            SOME are taking it to far. SOME are not even entertaining the idea that maybe, just maybe, it might not work out. SOME are heaping all sorts of stuff on a kid that is 9 months away from MAYBE cracking an NHL lineup for the first time. Hell, some are saying Yzerman should put him on the taxi squad for the Olympics (no lie).

            tempered excitement…cautious optimism….

          • Eddie Shore

            What has EBERLE shown to think that it won't work out? Why do certain people, specifically on this site, have to find the negatives in the few positive things this franchise has going for it right now? The glass doesn't need to be half-empty all the time.

          • Eddie Shore

            The only reality we have at the moment about Eberle is that he has had a memorable 2 world junior tournaments in a row, that he played 9 games in the AHL and averaged a point per game. That he has 60 pts in 28 games in the Dub this season. That he has been a clutch player, that he was selected by his coach at this years world junior tournament, that he was selected as the top forward and the tournament mvp, that many, many observers who have been around the game longer than any of us are saying he will be impactful in the NHL sooner rather than later…

            So what am I missing, what reality are you talking about?…isn't it realistic to think that Eberle will have a successful NHL career?

          • cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan

            I'm all for NOT putting any sort of point total or goal total expectations on Eberle early in his career. But I believe he's on this team next year and that he is a positive factor in this lineup.

            If for some reason he's not ready which I can't see then by all means send him to the AHL but I sure hope they don't send him there just because.

          • Eddie Shore

            as much as I like Eberle, I think we should be very cautious.

            after all, it's the Oilers we're talking about. how many stars have they developed in the last 10 years?

          • Bucknuck

            It depends what you consider a "star" I guess. I would consider Hemsky a star, and perhaps Penner this year. We have a defense star in Visnovsky, though the Oilers did not develop him. Is "star" a top 30 kind of distinction or a top 10. Remember there are 30 teams in the league.

          • GSC

            I have this feeling you'll get your wish…my prediction is 4th last ahead of Toronto, Columbus and Carolina…I just hope we don't take that Russian player and have to deal with his constant threats to play in the KHL

          • Eddie Shore

            Well I tried but as I read it back I see I didn't complete one of my sentences, lol. It should have read his world junior coach chose him as one of the top 3 players on the team.

          • Eddie Shore

            So what has Eberle, not Schremp, not Gagner, not O'Sullivan, not Pouliot, shown that leads you to be so cautious? Each player is different. Each person is different. I suppose that is why I am not as "cautious" as you.

          • OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F

            Small, not overly fast, not a great shot (Brule for example has a great shot and can beat NHL goalies striaght up).

            My major question is how well his game will tranlate to the NHL. His biggest attribute seems to be "finding space" anyone that follows the CHL knows the two leagues are very different. Their is alot less space to find in the NHL, and when their is space, it's closed alot quicker.

            Big scoring numbers at 19 in the CHL also isn't that impressive

            Again, I'm not saying he wont make the transition, just saying it's not a slam dunk that he will.

          • cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan

            Speed can be worked on and so can his shot. Your example of Brule; what was his shot like when he first joined CBJ out of junior?

            Point is Eberle has way more going for him than against him so there is no need to be so cautious and to compare him to Schremp and other first round busts (which I know you did not).

          • Jamie B.

            Have you got anything good to say about Eberle?….all I've ever heard from you are reasons why he can't make it (ie: too small, no speed, no shot, scoring numbers in the CHL aren't impressive)…anything? Do you have anything other than just you qualify all of these bad points by stating you aren't saying he won't make the transition?

            How about clutch performances on the world stage more than once? How about having scored more goals at the WJHC than any Canadian player in the history of that tournament? How about scoring numbers at the WJHC? How about averaging a point per game in his first 9 games in the AHL? How about being named top forward and MVP at the WJHC? How about numerous other players and scouts saying this player is the real deal including one of your favorites (Horcoff)? How about his leadership abilities that are well documented?

            Anything at all that leads you to believe that the kid stands a pretty good chance of being a sound NHLer? Anything that gives you something to look forward to?

            Or is it simply state all the factors that play against him and then just cover yourself by saying "I'm not saying he won't make it"?

          • OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F

            I was directly answering another posters questions as to why I was cautious:

            "So what has Eberle, not Schremp, not Gagner, not O'Sullivan, not Pouliot, shown that leads you to be so cautious? Each player is different. Each person is different. I suppose that is why I am not as "cautious" as you."

            Look for context before you have a hissy fit.

            Also, I should note that it isn't even Eberle specificaly, I'm "cautious" about every prospect…. Hence why they are called prospects, not proven players.

          • cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan

            didnt someone ask for reasons why he might not make it?

            perhaps looking at the context of the post might be a decent idea.

            as for

            Anything at all that leads you to believe that the kid stands a pretty good chance of being a sound NHLer?

            if you arent seeing anything, you need to get your head out of the clouds for a minute. yes, 110% yes, he is the best player in junior right now. but do we honestly have to start listing off the trail of bodies that have been great junior players and not made the jump to the NHL?

            again, i am not at all saying eberle will fall into that category. But, until he actually makes the NHL and produces, it is a possibilty that is definately out there.

          • cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan

            I don't remember someone asking for reasons and it's not just in this post…it's in all of them…the same guys bashing him and MPS and Taylor Hall….for every trail of bodies that have been great juniors and not made the jump there are a trail of bodies that have been great juniors and made it. How often in the history of the Oilers prospects have we had this many prospects do this well at the junior level and I'm not just talking the CHL. Who was the last Oiler to dominate at the WJHC or be in the top 5 scoreres at that tournament? This year we have 2.

            Yes I agree that the possibility exists that the kid might not make it but I think the possibilities are more likely to be that he will and that he will become a key component to a successful team. Eberle and MPS are showing more promise than any Oiler prospect has in a long time other than maybe Gagner. People are acknowleging what Eberle has done and are positive and excited about the accomplishments.

            Saying there's a chance he might not make it is one thing but to continually bash all the kids so called weaknesses and never have anything positive to say about his accomplishments says what? You tell me?

          • cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan

            ….for every trail of bodies that have been great juniors and not made the jump there are a trail of bodies that have been great juniors and made it.

            are you honestly suggesting for every junior star that doesnt make it there is one that does?

            do i really need to waste my time and dig up the numbers?

          • Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things

            I didn't ask for reasons why he might not make it. I wanted to see his stats to see (comparatively) how he was doing compared to other hyped players (namely Sam Gagner) in response to Willis' question about who you'd keep if you had to choose.

            Like I said in the other post – it's not a stretch to assume that great players in the CHL have a better chance to become great players in the NHL. That's why we have talent scouts, and that's why some players are favoured in the draft over others. Like Willis said, it's all about percentages. With your draft picks, you want to maximize your chances that the player you pick is going to be an NHL star. You do this by looking at their play, and their numbers in junior. To say that the numbers in junior don't matter (like so many people did in the other post) is stupid. They do matter.

            Edit: Apparently I didn't look at context before jumping in here. I'm not actually going to rewrite my post, though.

          • cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan

            21 teams passed on him before the oilers picked him 22nd.

            go back through the last 20 years and see the % of players picked 20-30 that turn into legit NHL players.

            yes, absolutely it happens. there are great players now that have been picked in that range. mike richards, for example, was picked 24th overall, and now makes the olympic team.

            problem is, for every mike richards, there is 2 Joe Finley's…

            i havent seen eberle play enough in person to make the call either way, hence my caution.

            if you have season tickets for the Pats or something and have seen him play first hand enough to make your call, fantastic. If you are basing your view on seeing 10ish junior games on TV over 2 years, thats fine to.

          • Eddie Shore

            You didn't really answer the question. Also, I haven't really stated any sort of opinion on Eberle but I questioned why people, such as yourself are so cautious. Eberle is not Schremp. He is not Gagner. So maybe, just maybe he will be an impact player. Maybe he won't. Nobody can make that call today.

          • cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan

            the "why he might not work out" question?

            size….footspeed….3rd testicle…

            i find it interesting you said "So maybe, just maybe he will be an impact player. Maybe he won't. Nobody can make that call today."

            isnt that being cautious?

          • cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan

            i think we are on a similar page, just with different views on what cautious and realistic are.

            my cautious=your realistic

            i think… i dunno… f-ing oilers

          • cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan

            fair enough.

            i dont really view the caution as a negative though. i havent seen anyone suggest he wont make it, but to dismiss the thought is probably foolish as well.

            nobody knows the future, and dont get me wrong, i do hope eberle turns into the sniper the oilers have been looking for. i deeply want the oilers to succeed, i wouldnt still be hanging around as a fan after only 1 great season in the last 20 if i didnt hold out some hope.

    • Bucknuck

      Falling for what, exactly?

      Gagner cracked into the NHL and has since scored 114 pts in 197 games. This is all before he is legal drinking age in most states.

      He's a proven top six forward with a huge career in front of him. He is only going to get better. If Eberle can match that I will be happy.

        • Bucknuck

          You are so right about that. You bring up a very good point. Unrealistic expectations have resulted in any unsatisfied fans over the years, and the players they are flaying are actually pretty good.

          Arnott has never eclipsed his rookie numbers, but I bet you if the Oilers had kept him they would have been a better team. Fans drove him out of town as a 'bum' and a floater etc. I was sad to see him go.

          Stoll brought lots of "intangibles" with him (booming shot, faceoffs etc), but everyone wanted a first line centre out of him, too. I remember a few people thinking he should be traded for a bag of pucks…

          Cole was billed as a first line winger, but if people would have expected a big gritty 2nd line winger instead of a superstar they would have enjoyed watching him check everything that moved as much as I did.

          Peca was supposed to be a first line centre, so everyone was constantly ripping on him. I bet you the Oil don't make it to the SCF without him. I bet he would have been a great option for Quinn the last few months.

          And Hemsky… can everyone relax and be happy we have a 70 point player who can rip you out of your seat with happiness and joy at a fairly regular pace. Does he have to get 100 pts in order to be appreciated. I guess so. In this town anyways.

          I guess that is my rant for the day

          • Milli

            Arnott would have been great to keep. Stoll was awesome, and well on his way until the concussions. Cole played on the first line, why wouldn't we expect him to be a first liner? Peca was amazing in the playoffs, but, do you remember him stating that he had to clarify what his role was with coach macT? Hemsky, ya, great dangle, but, he has been teasing us for years now that he will eventually Sedin it and take the next friken step. The main problem is we lack talent, NHL talent. Over the years we've had a few good players so mgmt hypes the crap outta them.

          • OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F

            X 2

            I'm guessing it comes through from the 90's (and today) when we are consistantly icing teams full of unproven talent, we're always told how much "potential" each guy has.

            We set some arbitrary number thinking that is player X's "potential" (ie Hemmer at 90 points) when they don't achieve what we randomly picked for them, we call them underachievers and want to run them out of town.

            …completely backwards thinking. A 70 point Hemsky is still better (offensivly) then anything we have. Rather then dumping him, you add around him.

          • Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach

            That would be managements fault for talking the way they do about the players they acquire. Add Lupul and Penner to your list as well.

            Just read the Oil website in the off-season how the build up all of their prospects, after reading those articles it makes you think that every pick we made was a steal.

          • OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F

            I would bet all teams do that.

            Also, blaming it on managment is a cope-out (reminds me of the talk of the division from the team last year).

            We are supposed to be one of the "smartest hockey markets" time to take some responsibility with fair evaluations of the team/prospects without simply swallowing what the marketing department feeds us.

          • Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach

            Problem is people don't do their homework and listen to only the positives from the media.

            Take O'Sullivan for example. Last year he is brought in. He was billed as a former 90 point AHL player with an amazing shot who has potential to score 30+, he also plays a solid two-way game and can play any of the three forward positions. But if you go an take a look at his numbers in LA over the course of 82 games a year he averaged 18 goals and 30 assists. Guess what this years numbers are 17g, 25a. Not really far off but for the 2 minutes of research for offensive production you could see that maybe 30 is too much for O'Sullivan right now and that he really is probably playing about where he was when we traded for him.

        • Dyckster

          I like this line of conversation more than the D45 stuff. The Eberle talk is more palatable (get it?). Lots of stuff has to happen before Mr. Hall or Seguin are in Oiler silks. We're pretty sure Eberle is going to be at some point.

          We need something to hope for during these sad time OOB! 🙂

  • DK0

    Observations:
    #1 Eberle always looks like he just smoked the hugest cannon, maybe thats why hes so smooth and relaxed.
    #2 Eberle must have switched to speed as his new drug for that 2nd period intermission. He was talking so fast it was hard to keep up.
    #3 The overtime winner was either the best, or luckiest shot ever. Watch the replay, he doesnt look at the goalie once. He stares at his 2on1 partner the whole time and then just lets it rip. He didnt look at the net once until it was already in the back of it.