This Generation’s Stan Weir

This is Stan Weir. He is a very important figure in Oilers history, because of his role on the first three Oiler NHL teams. He was a vital part of the group in 79-80, his role began to fade the following season (as detailed by Peter Gzowski in his classic book The Game of Our Lives).

Weir did the difficult work until the gifted kids could take on the chores, and in that way lives forever in Oiler lore. 

In the past few days, we’ve heard Steve Tambellini talk about adding a veteran presence (wanted a C, would settle for a W) and the truth is the club could use both of those player types (a Mike Peca and a Fernando Pisani).

Free agents don’t flock to 30th place teams, but they will in future years with the opportunity to play alongside more mature versions of Hall, MPS and Eberle.

In the absence of this free agent signing (unlikely this summer as the quality UFA’s slowly sign with other teams) the "Stan Weir" role will probably fall to Shawn Horcoff. He is the most complete player among the forwards (which is not the same as most talented) and he has displayed a willingness to do whatever is asked of him.

He has been to a SCF, he blocked a shot with his face in an important playoff game, he is a leader and he can help show the way. He did not (apparently) associate himself too closely with the veteran group (Souray, Moreau) that has been flushed (or will be flushed).

Horcoff will likely start the season on the top two lines, but as the kids develop (and possibly by next year) the trip down the depth chart will begin (as it did with Weir). By this time next season, Sam Gagner might be the 1C, the top 4 wingers might include Hall, MPS and Eberle, and Shawn Horcoff might be on the checking line.

Fans associate Shawn Horcoff with his massive contract and that’s human nature. I do hope the boos give way to cheers at some point, as Horcoff’s role on the new Oilers will be the most difficult one on the roster.

  • I am the Liquor

    //My problem comes with people that will skew numbers and try to make him look like something that he is not. He may have approached or even been a legit top line center right after the lockout, but he really isnt that anymore.//

    Thanks for your perspective.

    I too cringed when I saw 5.5M for a cap hit.

    But then I looked at his situation and looked for players asked to do the same thing. You know from One of my Board posts what I found.

    In UFA contracts the average Cap hit was 5.5M and for RFA it was 3.8M around what he maid for a RFA.

    So what do you get from this. Well fans and the MSM (Toronto sports Network) hate the deal but the rest of the league pays for that shutdown skill in droves.

    What is critical is this year. You know once again from my posting on the board he has displayed a stall in the first half of his first year of a new contract. Happened three times. Horcoff even commented on the Phsycology.

    The real question is the jump back to traditional results for the last 23 games going to continue for next year.

    I believe it will. You do not. That is the whole god/bad of the beat to death horcoff dicussion.

    On to readding about the “blue”

  • The Other John

    Jesus Christ, reading this discussion has made me very aware of why LT fans were worried about him posting here. Far more vitriol, far less civil debate. Some of you guys need to calm the hell down.

    • I am the Liquor

      The days of ganging up on Traktor and his lone dissenting voice are over. Of course they are worried. Groupthink was the word of the day over there. Everyday. It was like someone morphed Groundhog day into a Sesame Street episode.

  • Ball Buster

    Horcoff’s ppgs line up as 1C for 07-08, 2C for 08-09, and the 2C-3C margin for 09-10.

    He has value beyond ppg, but no one is arguing that the rebuild will end up with him as a 1C.

    Anyone recall what we were talking about before the chest thumping?

    Oh, right. LT’s top 6F and sliding down the depth chart.

    Hoping Horcoff’s healthy and Gagner wins 1C the hard way.