OILERS AT THE DEADLINE

At last year’s trade deadline, the Edmonton Oilers sent away 2-way defender Tom Gilbert in favor of veteran defensive defenseman Nick Schultz. It capped a 3-year period where Edmonton sent away quality, veteran players. Will we see the same this time?

2010 DEADLINE

  • March 1: Oilers trade D Denis Grebeshkov to Nashville for a 2nd round pick in the 2010 draft (Curtis Hamilton).
  • March 3: Oilers trade D Lubomir Visnovsky to Anaheim for D Ryan Whitney and a 6th rd pick in the 2010 draft (Brandon Davidson).
  • March 3: Oilers trade D Steve Staios to Calgary for D Aaron Johnson and 2011 3rd rd pick (Travis Ewanyk).

In what could be termed the ‘great Barbara Ann Scott’ purge of 2010, Edmonton sent away the sublime Lubo plus two other regular defensemen at a deadline that raised the white flag and sent fans to the draft preview websites.

2011 DEADLINE

  • February 28: Oilers trade L Dustin Penner to Los Angeles for D Colten Teubert, 1st rd pick in 2011 (Oscar Klefbom) and a conditional 3rd rd pick in 2012 (Daniil Zharkov).

This is a classic ‘rebuilding team at the deadline’ trade save for the fact Penner had another season left on his contract. Edmonton had long since tipped their hand to the fanbase that the rebuild would continue until further notice, and the deal resembles the Ryan Smyth deal of 2007 in that there were ‘three assets’ in return for a useful player who could contribute in a significant way to a championship run.

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The Oilers have not received much at the NHL level from the deal, but that should change starting this fall and could pay dividends rolling out over a decade or more; it could also crash in a heap. Such is the nature of offloading proven talent for picks and prospects.

2012 DEADLINE

  • Februrary 27: Oilers deal D Tom Gilbert (signed through 2014 summer) to Minnesota for D Nick Schultz (also signed through 2014 summer).

This was a trade that gave Edmonton a veteran LH defender who played a safer, more sedate style of game. Gilbert’s skill set on the Oilers was duplicated by the emerging Jeff Petry, an Oiler draft from 2006 who took time to develop.

TOMORROW’S JUST YOUR FUTURE YESTERDAY

The Oilers dealt off those veteran players–Lubo, Penner, Gilbert–as part of a rebuilding plan. Purge the actual NHL players, grab a wonderful tomorrow.

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At some point, the men who make the decisions about this hockey club–I count Kevin Lowe, Craig MacTavish, Steve Tambellini–have to ‘man up’ and give these young performers some stable role players to keep the beat and play the opponents to at least a draw.

I think we’re at a point where Hall the Chance Machine, Ebs, The Nuge, Yak City and Samwise can push the river if the 6’s and 7’s and 9’s can keep the score even.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

The Edmonton Oilers youth is ready to do some damage–but they need help. Today’s waiver move of Ben Eager is a nice start, and I do believe there’s an opportunity between now and the deadline. There’s a UFA-to-be to sign and maybe a trade or two–except this time Oiler fans should expect some immediate help.

Playoffs or not, the time for rebuilding is over and the time for team building has arrived.

The path is clear, it’s time to find a way.

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  • Mumbai Max

    First thing I gotta say is Im glad they got rid of that bum Gilbert. Schultz is much better, dont care what anyone says or what any stupid advanced stat says. Tom Gilbert was not a hockey player he was terrible to watch.

    Second thing is get Chris Stewart out of St Louis somehow. Dont care how just get him. Without trading the wonder kids.

  • DSF

    Hey Lowetide I got a question.

    Do you think its tough for the Oilers to have trade talks with other teams for their “impact” players without the other team only for Eberle Hall Nuge or Schultz? Like asking for big strong top line scoring winger or a top paring dman?

    • Lowetide

      I don’t think the Oilers need an impact player, but they do need solid veterans who have a proven track record and are in their prime/just past.

      That isn’t going to cost Hall, Ebs, Nuge, Yak, Schultz or even Gagner.

  • vetinari

    The Oil will actually be in decent position next year, capwise, once Whitney, Khabibulin, and Sutton’s contracts and Souray’s buyout are off the books, and I’m sure that there will be a dozen or so teams looking to offload talent between now and then– now’s the time to be ringing phones and knocking on doors to supplement the roster and get the players that they should have signed or traded for years ago.

  • See this is where I say the Oiler’s are in no way ready to move off the rebuild.

    They need a number 1 defenseman.

    I don’t care how many points Gagner has…He is not the center this team need’s moving forward.

    The Oilers have to find replacements for Horcoff, Smyth, Belanger, Petrel, Whitney, Hemsky , Potter , Hartikainen

    The Oilers still have to get tougher in the bottom six.

    Like LT said, find player’s to mix in the top six.

    The Oilers just don’t have the assets to move for these pieces.

    • Hear, hear.

      The top five are the only untradables. We took the best players in the draft regardless of their position with the intent of dealing the lesser surplus talent to fill out the team. Hemsky AND gagner are BOTH surplus goods and both are playing at or near the top of their game. This is the perfect time to deal them.

      The test is… Do [email protected] have the guts to pull the trigger?

    • I agree with you David except.

      I would use Gagner and Petry for that defensemen, cause let’s face it; you’re not getting a number 1 defensemen without giving up more.

      Petry become’s expendable, because I think the Oilers expect Klefbom to fit right in.

      Hemsky and a pick won’t get you that player. Gagner has more value.

      While I tend to agree with giving up proven talent for pick or prospects, I would in a heartbeat give up Hemsky for a pick in the top 10 – 15 of this year’s draft only.

      One that can fill Horcoffs spot within the Next year or two.

      This because Hemsky’s position is filled already, the Oilers have to draft two centers in this draft IMO.

      Hemsky makes also makes a cap crunching 5 million.

      The Oiler’s can then possible deal Jones and Belanger as a package or separate for picks or prospects.

      Would Jones and a prospect get you Gardiner? One would have to think so.

      Would Gardiner be an upgrade on Potter,Peckham,Fistric, I would think so.

      I would use one of the two second round pick’s this year plus a player/ prospect for Ryane Clowe in a trade and sign situation, the player could possibly be Whitney.

      The Oilers will need to move out the remaining players on this year’s roster to make way for new players that will compete better for a playoff position next season.

      Time to move out dead weight.

      • Quicksilver ballet

        Could be one way of looking at it, or perhaps there’s a fine line between proven talent and junk. It’s become rather obvious the last 3 yrs it would be the later.

        The perfect storm with managements goal being, securing lotto selections for the foreseeable future. Need atleast one more top 3 pick. Not all currently in the fold will pan out.

        Anyone who resembles Adrian Barboa is alright in my books. Not many wouldn’t want to flare her nostrils in the day.

  • We need the Right body vs.the Right draft pick. We have lots of bodies to trade, The right body IMO would be a young 1/2 defenseman.

    Look to Jack Carlson, Either of the Johnsons , Cam Fowler, one of the Pens Defenseman….that caliber…

    The give could be some combination of Hemsky, Whitney, Jones, Yakopov.

    I would over pay in hockey trade to get that one piece we need…a great, +25 minute a night dman.

    Need that top dman vs. the goal scorer …

  • Devon

    Hey LT, what about going out and using their depth on D to acquire a skilled depth center. They could really use a number one guy down their that’s good enough to play a regular shift at the NHL level and not get killed. Lander’s about the closest guy and he could use at least another year full time in the AHL. Anyone currently on D with Okalahoma you’d be willing to part with and whom might they be able to acquire? It’s only a minor deal, but something they should look at especially when they could have all three of Klefboom, Gernat and Musil taking regular shifts the Barons next fall.

  • Let’s stop the “Yakupov for XXXX” crazy talk, shall we? Kid’s playing top 6 minutes right outta the box despite being a defensive calamity. We need that big juicy D-man, we can buy him this summer or trade Hemsky + a second rounder.

  • Devon

    Hey Lowetide

    I should have phrased my question better. I know the Oilers dont need any “impact” forwards cause they already have those, Im talking more about a top end “imapact” Dman like a Keith or Seabrook (AND I KNOW THE HAWKS AND OILERS ARENT GOING TO MAKE THAT DEAL JUST AN EXAMPLE) or a big physical skilled forward (which dont fall off trees, so thats why the asking price is always huge).

    Also about Stewart. Ya he is inconsitent (maybe not as bad as Penner has been before) but so is every other big skilled guy not named Lindros. The thing I like about Stewart is, he is really hard to compete against. So even if he isnt scoring at that particular time he still makes it diffucult to play against for the other teams best players or dman.

    I like the St louis Blues forwards group because they are so skilled but also have the abbility to wear down the others teams player.

    On another note how about Jake Gardiner agent tweeting what he did. Maybe him and Schultz want to have a reunion because I sure would welcome it.

  • GVBlackhawk

    All I know is anyone can be traded but if our management group keeps taking picks and not players we will be on this merry go round for years.What about a package deal of say Whitney, Tuebert and Hartski for a top 3 “D”from Columbus or a center. If its a 3rd rd pick for Whit it means we gave up Green & Stoll for a 3rd . WAKE UP >

  • The oil need these 4 players and they are set:

    Steve Ott (for the love of god get him Tammy!),
    Brandon Dubinsky,
    Wayne Simmons,
    Curtis Glencross

    These 4 would be PERFECT complimentary players, rugged, hard mothers who can play, skate and take a pound of flesh. You’d see Noogie’s, ebbs and yak play 2ft taller.

  • SmyttyForMayor

    What about Hemsky +++++ for Shattenkirk? St. Louis needs a scoring forward, and Shattenkirk is one of the best defenceman in the league in my eye. Would Hemsky, Whitney, Marincin and a 2nd/3rd be enough for St.Louis?

    • Spydyr

      Not going to happen. Shattenkirk has become the centerpiece of the Stewart/Johnson deal between St. Lou and Colorado. In fact the reason Chris Stewart’s name is out there in trade rumours is because St. Louis needs the cap space to re-sign Berglund, Shattenkirk and Alex Pietrangelo and they also need to fill out the rest of the roster because they only have 12 players currently signed for 2013-14 and the cap is dropping by 6M.

      I know that given what’s happened since Horcoff has been back that the Oilers need him pretty badly but would it be out of the question to send him and a healthy Khabi to Chicago for a pick and Victor Stalberg. Chicago would get insurance in net and a good third line center and the Oilers would get a good top 9 player who can play either wing and has good size at 6’3 209. I know the hawks can’t keep Horcoff past this season because of cap issues so the deal would be contigent on Chicago being willing to use one of their buyout compliances on Horcoff. Then it would be a matter of re-signing Horcoff. Would that be a ridiculous scenario?

  • 106 and 106

    When we had such defensive needs, would it have been too much to trade anyone else but Gilbert, for Schultz? What’s wrong with having a competition for these spots?

    And now these rumours about Smid – we should keep Smid AND add another defensemen. You can’t take away our minute-eater, shot-blocker and expect to be any better.

    Come on Management – ADD, not subtract (subtract the forwards Gagner, Hemsky, 4th liners – not the productive defensemen).

    I mean what kind of organization doesn’t even begin contract talks with a guy who clearly likes (Oil Change) being on this team and in this city.

    Maybe they should hire another management position to deal with talking contracts ahead of their expiration date, Mr. Dithers is too busy assessing (and cue Howson’s return).

  • 106 and 106

    This team should not make another major transaction until it changes management. That includes the draft.

    Is there any way they can replace a management and scouting staff in time for this draft so they can stop flushing draft picks down the toilet?

    • 2004Z06

      You raise a very interesting point that been on my mind for a few weeks….that being that this next 6 months is a critical stage in the rebuild….there will be trades, UFA signings, drafts…..IF the management team had even the slightest inclination to replace Tambellini they would surely do it before all of this happens/ed. SO this is a clear indication that they have NO intention of replacing him.

      The ONLY other possible scenario is that MacT and K Lowe are overseeing every move and therefore MacT would be in a position to take over as GM if a move needed to be made.

      POINT IS there will be no NEW blood anytime soon.

  • Quicksilver ballet

    Only thing guys is, it’s not as easy as some of the posts are implying. I share the frustration of Tambellini’s errors over time, but am REALLY hesitant to let him get the idea he should “do something”. I go back to what MacT said: “…important to not do anything stupid”.
    In order to get quality, we have to give up quality, unless there’s a GM out there dumber than T. I don’t know of any (maybe Snow but they have Dougie too). So, to be more real, we have to think about upgrading and changing the composition of the team by investing some of our quality players. “Whitney and Potter for Crosby” trades ain’t gonna happen. Our junk is not going to get us anything more than small upgrades to better junk. (Like Brown/Eager). That’s a good thing but isn’t going to get us the keys to the Cup. The elephant in the room is having 5 crown jewels who are all sort of the same size and skill set. I won’t dare chance the vilification by going there! So, first move? Hemsky and whatever for something big, fast, with hands, and most of all, who doesn’t turn the puck over every shift. After that it gets trickier. Just sayin’

  • Quicksilver ballet

    I’d ask Glen about Brian Boyle. Big center having a very bad year in NY. He’s a 3rd line guy but he brings elements that this team needs. NYR should be looking to bolster their team for the playoffs. Any time you have Richards, Nash, Lundqvist and Gaborik together, you should be thinking Stanley Cup run.

  • Ducey

    The best plan is to see if you can get some up and coming prospects at the deadline for the likes of Whitney, Bulin, Jones, Belanger, Petrell. Picks are fine. Its a deep draft.

    Get busy on college free agent signing. Other teams have got the likes of Tyler Bozak and Matt Reid for nothing.

    This summer, use Katz’s money and the Cap room they should have to pry a couple of good vet players from teams who are going to have salary cap problems. Philly is one of these teams.

    Or they can try to entice a FA or two.

    The offseason is where EDM can load up. And given the cap squeeze its a unique opportunity to take advantage of some of the big spenders.