TRADE WINDS….

The 2013 NHL trade deadline is next Wednesday at 1 p.m. MST, and the next week will be great for those who love trade rumours. One rumour got squashed yesterday when it was reported that Mikka Kiprusoff would not report to his new team if the Calgary Flames traded him, which of course was met by laughter amongst Edmonton fans.

Thankfully there are many other rumblings, rumours and potential deals floating around.

What will the Oilers do?

Nikolai Khabibulin made Doug Maclean’s suggestion that he could fetch a 2nd rounder seem realistic after his 43-save performance last night.

The tougher question is are the Oilers better off having Khabibulin as a $1.2 million back up next year, or moving him for a draft pick?

So let’s look at some of the options the Oilers have to trade. These thoughts are a combination of my views as well as what I’ve heard and read as far as pros and cons for each player from pundits and fans. I don’t agree or disagree with all of them, but respect the differing views.

KHABIBULIN

  • Would he want to play for $1.2 million?
  • He turns 41next January, and age catches up with most players.
  • Unreliable due to injuries.
  • His history of injuries is the main concern. The interesting thing about Khabibulin is that he works incredibly hard to stay in shape. He’s in really good shape, but you wonder if his body is breaking down. Maybe he pushes too hard, because he seems to tweak something every few weeks.
  • When he plays he’s played very well. In six starts he has a sparkling 1.93 GAA and a .941SV%. Those numbers are unattainable over a long period, but we’ve seen that when he plays he can still win games.
  • He works well with Dubnyk. They have a healthy and respectful relationship.
  • I don’t see the Oilers being able to overhaul the blueline in one summer. It would require three solid moves, and while it is possible, I’m not sure it is realistic. If the Oilers don’t land highly touted college prospect Danny Dekeyser (who is good, but far from a saviour or lock to be a top-four), and another D-man via a trade of UFA signing (weak pool) then their D won’t be much better next year and they will need a reliable back up.

RYAN WHITNEY

  • The free agent list isn’t very good, especially for D-men under the age of 30.
  • Justin Schultz would be the only excellent puck mover remaining. The Oilers need D-men who can move the puck quickly and accurately to their skilled forwards.
  • The Oilers recent history of signing UFAs to come into Edmonton isn’t great. There is no guarantee they will find a better replacement. There is also a good chance Whitney performs well in another environment. Being comfortable and feeling confident is a huge factor in how a player performs on the ice.
  • The advanced stats show he’s struggled.
  • He will never be able to turn due to his surgeries.
  • It is clear the coaching staff doesn’t have a lot of confidence in him. When that happens, usually it is hard to change it. If a player is worried about making a mistake and getting benched, usually they make more mistakes.

RYAN JONES

  • For a team that struggles to score ES, at least he can score 5-on-5.
  • He goes to the net regularly and scores garbage goals. Oilers don’t have a lot of guys like that.
  • Jones is a complimentary player. He won’t be a key cog in winning, but he’s shown the ability to produce. While surrendering scoring chances doesn’t look good on paper, scoring goals trumps that.
  • He is on the ice for way too many scoring chances against.
  • Teemu Hartikainen is bigger and can replace him.
  • He isn’t physical enough on a team that desperately needs some guys who are harder to play against. He’s a solid NHLer, but if needed they can find a veteran UFA to replace him.

I suspect those three would make garner the most interest, amongst players the Oilers would consider trading.

There are some other names that have been tossed around for the Oilers…

Ladislav Smid

  • I think the Oilers would be foolish to deal him. I outlined the available free agent D-men yesterday, and no one on that list looks like a potential upgrade to Smid. Smid knows his role and he’s good at it. He plays hard and is the most physical D-man who plays every night. I still believe the Oilers and Smid will come to an agreement prior to April 3rd. If they don’t we can chat about then after the 3rd.

Ales Hemsky

  • If you trade him at the deadline you are likely only getting picks and prospects in return. At this point in the rebuild the Oilers need to move him in a deal where you get a proven NHL player back in return rather than picks. He’s played much better now that his shoulder issues are behind him and I suspect there would be more interest in the summer.

Sam Gagner

  • Gagner has been the lightning rod for years in Edmonton. He’s had a great start to the season and will get a raise on his current $3.2 million contract this summer. His trade value is much higher now than it was last year, so the return would be better. Gagner is very popular in the dressing room, he has worked hard at improving his game and no one questions his desire. I don’t see any reason to move him at the deadline, and if he they consider moving him in the summer they have to get a solid D-man of big, skilled forward in return. I don’t trade Gagner for anything less than a proven player.

LOOKING AHEAD

No one knows what the future holds, but at some point the results have to match the "potential"and "patience" that has been talked about for years in Edmonton.

For me there is one obvious conclusion coming for the Edmonton Oilers. They won’t be able to move forward with all six of their young 19-23 year-old forwards. They don’t have the right combination of size, skill and sandpaper needed to succeed in the NHL. That doesn’t mean they all won’t be successful NHL players, it just means I don’t see all of them developing with the Oilers.

Taylor Hall and Jordan Eberle will make $6 million next year. Gagner is in line for a raise that will put him close to $5 million next year and Ryan Nugent-Hopkins likely gets a contract similar to Hall and Eberle starting in 2014.

The Oilers still haven’t found a recipe to win, and when they do they won’t be able to afford all of their young stars, even if you believe they can win with six skilled forwards.

The Oilers need to get some size down the middle, improve their blueline and get some productive veterans into their lineup. The issue is many think they can do this without trading any of their young skilled players. Reality check, that isn’t going to be possible.

The way I see it the Oilers will end up moving two, maybe three players amongst Hemsky, Gagner, Magnus Paajarvi and Nail Yakupov. You might not like that reality, but I don’t see any other way this team will be able to improve and afford their lineup if they don’t make those types of moves.

There is a good chance that the Oilers trade those guys and they put up decent numbers on another team, and likely more than the players coming to Edmonton, but that doesn’t mean the Oilers will lose those trades. If they acquire a strong, steady defenceman for one of them that makes them more competitive.

If they acquire a skilled forward who plays physical, scores, is a good puck retriever and goes to the net that will make them better. The Oilers will still have three very good skilled players remaining, in Hall, RNH and Eberle and one or two of 64, 89, 91 and 83.

You can’t expect the Oilers to have six forwards score 55+ points regularly. It just doesn’t happen in today’s game. You need a good mix in your lineup. You need some some skilled players with size and grit. Suggesting you don’t doesn’t jive with teams that win championships.

Here are the top scorers, with at least 34 points, of the last four Cup winners: 

LOS ANGELES          
Player  Pos  GP  G  A  P
Anze Kopitar C 82 25 51 76
Justin Williams R 82 22 37 59
Dustin Brown R 82 22 32 54
Mike Richards C 74 18 26 44
Drew Doughty D 77 10 26 36
Jeff Carter L 55 21 13 34
           
BOSTON          
Player  Pos GP  G  A  P
Milan Lucic L 79 30 32 62
David Krejci C 75 13 49 62
Patrice Bergeron C 80 22 35 57
Nathan Horton R 80 26 27 53
Mark Recchi R 81 14 34 48
Tomas Kaberle D 82 4 43 47
Zdeno Chara D 81 14 30 44
Brad Marchand L 77 21 20 41
Rich Peverley C 82 18 23 41
Michael Ryder R 79 18 23 41
           
CHICAGO Pos GP  G  A  P
Patrick Kane R 82 30 58 88
Duncan Keith D 82 14 55 69
Jonathan Toews C 76 25 43 68
Patrick Sharp L 82 25 41 66
Marian Hossa R 57 24 27 51
Kris Versteeg R 79 20 24 44
Troy Brouwer R 78 22 18 40
Andrew Ladd L 82 17 21 38
Brian Campbell D 68 7 31 38
           
PITTSBURGH          
Evgeni Malkin C 82 35 78 113
Sidney Crosby C 77 33 70 103
Chris Kunitz L 82 23 30 53
Jordan Staal C 82 22 27 49
Bill Guerin R 78 21 27 48
Petr Sykora R 76 25 21 46
Ruslan Fedotenko L 65 16 23 39
Miroslav Satan R 65 17 19 36
Tyler Kennedy C 67 15 20 35

Do you honestly believe the Oilers top-six resembles any of those teams?

The reality is the Oilers will need to move some of their skilled forwards.

The difficult question will be when and who?

THINKING OUTLOUD…

Yesterday on my radio show, I asked Jason Strudwick if he’d deal Nail Yakupov for David Clarkson. Of course the deal would hinge on Clarkson having a new contract and the Oilers getting something else in return. It wasn’t a one-for-one deal.

The point of the question was to point out  that the Oilers will need to trade away a skilled player; one who likely will produce points elsewhere. (Yakupov was just an example. Not saying he is the 1st one I’d trade) And by trading one or two of them away, that doesn’t mean they are bad players. It just means the Oilers need to alter their lineup to become more successful.

The difficult decision for the Oilers GM, whoever that is when the time comes to trade one of them, is making the right move. The move won’t be made solely on statistics. They will have to look at other things: contracts, attitude, competitive nature, size, etc.

It won’t be easy, but it you believe it won’t happen I think you are fooling yourself.

The reactions to the Clarkson topic ranged from "You’re an idiot," to "Yakupov could be like Stamkos."

Both made me chuckle, but the latter really stuck with me. Stamkos is the best goal scorer in the game, so of course it is realistic to compare Yakupov to him because they were both #1 picks and because Yakupov has a good one-timer. I hope for Yakupov’s sake he becomes like Stamkos, but Stamkos has more to his game than a great one-timer. Stamkos has incredibly high hockey sense, and he’s excellent at anticipating where the openings are in the offensive zone to get himself in good scoring areas.

Yakupov might become a very good scorer, but suggesting he’ll be like Stamkos is the ultimate best-case scenario. It is unlikely, however. Just like it is unlikely that the first overall picks taken between Stamkos and Yakupov, John Tavares, Hall and RNH, will score as often as Stamkos.

Many people want the Oilers to acquire good players, but they aren’t willing to give up anything of substance. Instead they want to offer up spare parts, usually players you feel are junk, to get players like Clarkson, Lucic, Clowe or others.  

If the Oilers are going to improve moving forward they will eventually need to change the mix amongst their top forwards. It will be a difficult decision, and the organization has to ensure they have the right guy calling the shots. Based on recent decisions, it is fair to question whether the current regime is prepared and able to make the right choice.

This type of trade will occur in the near future, and when it does, the Oilers must make the correct decision and they need the right man calling the shots.

RECENTLY BY JASON GREGOR

  • mr_nihilism

    There’s an article on the “Cult of Hockey” about Boston possibly being a partner in a trade with Edmonton. If there is any truth to that then after what happened with Iginla, maybe a trade really will get done.

  • RexLibris

    The Flames got hosed in the Iginla deal. The two prospects are borderline NHL depth talents and while the 1st round pick is a late pick in a draft considered to be deep, I don’t have a great deal of faith in Tod Button or John Weisbrod to make the right call there.

    That being said, I would consider moving the Oilers’ two 2nd round picks for that late 1st. If it meant adding Anthony Mantha.

    Having said that, this is Feaster, maybe the Oilers could offer Curtis Hamilton and Cameron Abney and get the 1st.

  • RexLibris

    With the Quebec model, you’re assuming that they wouldn’t have won had they kept Sundin and Nolan. Yeah, Wendall Clark was awesome and Ozolinsh was a phenomenal offensive Dman, but the trade that got that franchise to the next level was the acquisition of Patrick Roy. If you do that one trade without trading away Sundin and Nolan, would the Avs still have won a Cup or two? I’d say yes. I’m not even factoring in the Lindros trade.

    • bored

      It’s not that simple. The only facts that we have are that they picked 1st overall 3 years in a row – taking a forward each time – Not to mention drafting Sakic mid to late 1st round in prior years (hello more Eberle com parables) and that they traded 2 of those 1st round picks for complementary players and than made smart trades along the way to fulfill needs that allowed them to win Stanley Cups.

      Who’s to say that if they keep Sundin and Nolan they don’t become the Washington Capitals and eventually bottom out.

      The chose to build around the players they thought were best and leveraged their assets to bring in the right kind of players that build winning teams.

      I think Hall, Eberle and Shultz are the right players to build a team around…

      Championship Hockey teams and all-star teams are very different types of teams.

  • Ogie Oilthorpe

    Rumors of Whitney to Bean Town + MPS or Hemsky..

    I wonder if managment could ship Whitney and Hemsky + a 2 rounder and some salary back for Horton + a top 6 d-man (legit top six, not Potter, Teddy, etc)?

    • Ducey

      Horton is a shell of the player he once was. He has played 70 games once in the last 4 years. He has 24 hits this year. Concussions have reduced his effectiveness. See Ben Eager.

      Boston isn’t going to give up a roster player anyway.

      Looking at Boston’s prospect list, they don’t really have anyting too exciting, other than Subban.

      I think it will be something like Whitney for Jared Knight. I could live with that.

      • Ogie Oilthorpe

        I agree I could live with Knight as well.. My (fading) hopes of Tambo making a blockbuster trade to bring in some roster players is fading every day we inch closer to the deadline. Hopefully, the horrible trade Calgary just made opens the door for a few more big deals.

        • Ducey

          Your hope should have faded a few weeks ago.

          They are 5 points out with 16 games to go. They need to win 10 or 11 of those. They are a .500 team at best.

          The Oilers get badly outshot, even when they do win. There are too many holes and the kids are not mature enough to worry about this year.

          They not making the playoffs.

          The best course of action is to get rid of the vets with an eye to next year.

          • Ogie Oilthorpe

            I don’t disagree at all but I think now is the time to start lending players out, but the Oil need roster players in return. They should be shopping picks plus roster players for a decent d-man and big center (or winger if the can move #4 to centre).

            I just don’t want to see guys getting shipped off for picks that will take another 3 years to develop and 75% of which will never see the show. No more prospects, EDM should be shedding a few prosepects and picks to for Roster Players now. Sign the guys for 2-3 years and get them to start buying into the system today.

  • Ducey

    Edmonton’s 1st for Glencross. Tough pill to swallow for several reasons, it’s a deep draft, we initially had Glancross and let him go, his contract is not that good, especially with the no move clause he’s rockin. But Gagner, Nuge, Horcoff, and Glencross gives us a good mix of size and skill at centre.

    Name me another centre in the mold of Glencross that is attainable for our first round pick?

    • Ogie Oilthorpe

      I’m assuming you’re a Flames fan and trolling…..

      that’s a worse trade than “Yakupov-Clarkson”….if that’s possible

      The only center we should be getting with our first round pick is Barkov…

      • Ducey

        Certainly not a Flames fan. I agree that if I thought we were getting Barkov this is not a good trade.

        However, say we’re drafting where we sit today, 9th. If you think Barkov is falling to ninth, you are the delusional one my friend.

        So I ask again, what do you draft at ninth that is better right now, next year, two years from now, three years from now, then Glencross?

        Or who do you get back with your first round pick, that is a better fit and option then Glencross? Don’e sit there and say I’m talking crazy without at least offering a reasonable alternative (drafting Barkov is not a reasonable alternative).

        • Glencross for our first rounder would.be a bad trade.

          I don’t see Barkov falling to 9th either….take it for what its worth I guess…

          We are not in a position to deal a possible top ten pick for Glencross….although we do need a player like him, this is not the way to go.

          If anything, that first is a sweetner to a big deal for a stud dman…..one can dream….

    • Ducey

      Cmon man.

      Glencross is a LW.

      The Oilers will be able to get a good center in the draft.

      Lets say they wind up with the first pick (possible if they don’t make the playoffs) or even a top 5 pick.

      You will have traded Glencross (who might be your 3rd line LW) for one of those guys?

      • Ducey

        Hmmm, my bad. I really thought he was a centre for some reason.

        Still though, we are currently drafting ninth, and I know there are some big centres, so who do you think we get. I know Stauffer is big on Gauthier. Do you thnk he’s still there at around nine? What if we move up the standings a bit?

        If all the prized centres are taken by the time we draft, I’d expect them to draft a D man, who might not work out for years.

          • bored

            Again, huge fan of taking Barkov. But some lists rank him as high as third or fourth. Thankfully, I don’t think we are drafting that high this year.

            I just can’t see any draft scenario where we get Barkov, unless maybe he gets injured and no one wants to take a flyer on an injured player. Even if we win the lottery (again), we take Jones, no question.

            I think we should all just get Barkov right out of our heads, unless Oilers start falling in the standings, which is not something I want to see again.

  • vetinari

    This draft, we need to pick up either a centre or a defenceman with our first round pick– the problem is that these players will not be solid contributors to the organization for 3 to 5 years. In other words, we need a few trades or UFA signings to bridge the gap between “today” and “tomorrow”. Get do ‘er Tambi’s replacement!

  • Quicksilver ballet

    If we have to settle on Barkov, how long is it before he sees NHL action, 2yrs away?

    Same Ship, different year again going into next season if that’s the case. Management needs to turn up the heat and ship some bodies out so we can more than likely be in that top 3 again. New blood in, deadwood out…..repeat as many times as possible.

  • BRHLBryce

    Edmonton-Boston trade

    Whitney, Jones & Khaby
    for
    Caron & Khudobin

    makes almost too much sense for both teams.

    Oilers move their expendable guys in 1 swoop, get a big winger who can play top 6, and a decent young backup who can push Duby.