IT WON’T BE LONG

As we approach draft day and what is certainly looking to be a very busy time for the Oilers, it’s important to be aware of all (ALL) available items for trade. Edmonton has a lot of assets.

STRONG ASSETS

  • #7 overall pick: No matter how you construct your draft board, there’s going to be an outstanding player available. If the top 6 are Mackinnon, Jones, Drouin, Barkov, Nichuskin and Monahan, that leaves Lindholm, Nurse, Ristolainen and others still available. Exceptional value.
  • Ales Hemsky: Despite injuries and a subpar season, Hemsky is an attractive option for a couple of reasons: he creates offense and his contract has only one year remaining. A team like Ottawa or Montreal would have good reason to be interested in him. If cap room is an issue, the Oilers could retain some of the contract in order to improve quality of asset returning.

SIGNIFICANT ASSETS

  • Shawn Horcoff: A veteran 3rd line center in the NHL has value (Edmonton is actually going to be looking for one) and this fellow is the team captain. The contract situation can be improved by sharing (Edmonton takes on some of the money) the load, and there are teams that could surely use him. The question is: does Horc want to go to those teams?
  • #37 overall pick: This is a very valuable item, the 2013 draft is deep enough for this selection to be reasonably considered first round quality. Huge potential value. 
  • #56 overall pick: Still inside the second round where good value will remain in this draft.
  • Nick Schultz: Veteran has one more year remaining on his contract, and the Oilers may decide to cash him if they’re attempting to upgrade the position. He has a fairly expensive cap hit, but veteran defensemen always have value.

ASSETS OF MEANDERING VALUE

  • Corey Potter: With the emergence of Taylor Fedun (strong end of season), the signing of Anton Belov and the presence of youngster Oscar Klefbom, Potter may be available. Although he isn’t a strong top 4 option, NHL teams looking for depth would do well to look at him.
  • AHL players: You never know. There may be a team that highly values a player like Martin Marincin and is willing to overpay for the player. Unlikely for a team still building (as Edmonton is doing) but if the price is right anyone is available.
  • Linus Omark: Oilers retained his rights, and he might be a thrown in/addition for a team that would like to bring him in to see if he can help the offense.
  • Theo Peckham: A hidden gem in my opinion, the Oilers are extremely likely to walk away from him based on last season, but he has the kind out toughness, aggressiveness and ability NHL teams value. He’s also young and inexpensive, all positives.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

The Edmonton Oilers are going to have to give in order to get, and we know that some of the young NHLers may be in play (although Sam Gagner apparently is not one of them based on MacT’s comments). If the Oilers are going to keep their attractive young NHL players, then the draft picks, Hemsky and Horcoff, and minor/junior players like Martin Marincin may be in play.

It won’t be long now.

  • Lowetide

    Might be premature to start trading our youth and end up like Philly did going that path with Richards , Carter and others . They are not overly pleased with their new young group either . Maybe this is not a good year for letting assets like Horcoff and Hemsky get awa y, if we cannot replace them with upgrades and not the accustomed downgrades we seem to accumulate .

    • Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)

      That ship has already sailed my friend….Hemmer and Horcs are gonzo…..only question remaining is what are we getting back in return…….

      .

  • nuge2drai

    Oiler Domination To Follow

    I would like to see Burmistrov come in as well, possibly Burmistrov and Bogosian for Gagner and _______.

    Luongo for our two seconds would be my ideal trade.

    7 years is too long without the postseason. Luongo will help the team compete for the playoffs now – the two second rounders are 3-4 years away from being rookies. The cap goes up every year, free agency is thinning, we won’t have cap issues in the future, not because of Luongo at least.

    The opposite idea to this is spending 5 million on a defenseman and hoping the Defenceman has a positive impact on Dubnyk, and the team improves.

    Problem is there are no 5 million dollar Defenceman available. . Luongo creates depth in goal which creates a trading chip to eventually fill in the d hole- assuming Dubnyk continues to improve.

    • treevojo

      I’m pretty sure gillis would love if you were the gm for the oilers. Two second round picks and not having to take a bad contract back would be a dream situation for Vancouver. Glad we have the silver fox running things.

      • nuge2drai

        Oiler Domination To Follow

        Lets just keep the seconds and keep the average goaltending we have, an hope the longest playoff drought in the NhL ends on it’s own.

        Maybe Scuderi and MacCarthur will have enough impact to change the culture here. I’m sure the Lababera Dubnyk combo is suffice for you.

        Luongo is the answer. Miller, Hiller might get it done, Emery could possibly be an option but I think lots of teams will be in on him. I think the cost of Hiller and Miller will be much much higher than a couple seconds.

        • treevojo

          I wasn’t saying luongo isn’t a good goaltender although I don’t think he is the answer. I just said gillis would wet his pants if he thought he could get rid of that albatross of a contract and receive two seconds without having to take back a bad contract.

  • nuge2drai

    Oiler Domination To Follow

    I think MacT will only trade the #7 for a proven game changer. A Vanek, Edler, Yandle, Letang type player in a package deal.

    If not, select Lindholm and add a significant peice to improve our Center depth.

    Teddy would be a good signing, a season of Eakins conditioning might turn Pecks back into the player he was pre-concussions. One can hope.

    Addition of Luongo, an all star calibre goalie while his value is lowest would go a long way to getting us into the playoffs. Worst case we end up with two good
    Goalies, and a valuable trade asset.

    Longest week ever, so looking forward to some changes… All Hail MacT… Too soon?

  • eastcoastoil

    What would Burmistov cost to acquire? I think he would ideally be that 2C if we had a 2 way 3C as well. I think he plays the type of game the Oilers would want and I dont think would cost much to trade for.

    • eastcoastoil

      I agree with this, given the right structure I think Burmi would be good here. Check out his stats he does his share of hitting and is solid defensively.
      Has the skill set to produce offensively too!

      • 24% body fat

        so people think gagner doesnt provide enough offense for a second line center though he was top ten in ppg for centers last year; yet we want Burmistrov, who has not done a thing in this league yet. He has never shown any thing that should make anyone think yet that he is a number two center. Number three fine, but he has a long way to go to get to a number two.

        • a lg dubl dubl

          I never said Gagner did not provide offense. unfortunately that is all he can provide. He is not concerned with learning the defensive side of the game. providing one out of the three areas needed does not make this team better. Sorry if you do not agree but Burmistrov is far better defensively already, hits more often than not and simply was not connecting with Claude Noel. Put him with skilled wingers and I think he will project better than Sammy.

        • Lowetide

          I have never heard anyone say Gagner doesn’t provide enough offense for a #2 center. People say he doesn’t or hasn’t shown that he has the other intangibles to be a good fit for the Oilers at #2 center. I agree with these people to an extent but the oilers could do way worse. I like burmistov and I think he could’ve had for cheap. Since the oilers are loaded with skilled wingers I’d like to see the oilers bring in two 2way centres to be complimentary to the wingers, it’s an unconventional method cuz ideally you want your skill to be in the middle but I think it works with the oilers.

        • eastcoastoil

          I have never heard anyone say Gagner doesn’t provide enough offense for a #2 center. People say he doesn’t or hasn’t shown that he has the other intangibles to be a good fit for the Oilers at #2 center. I agree with these people to an extent but the oilers could do way worse. I like burmistov and I think he could’ve had for cheap. Since the oilers are loaded with skilled wingers I’d like to see the oilers bring in two 2way centres to be complimentary to the wingers, it’s an unconventional method cuz ideally you want your skill to be in the middle but I think it works with the oilers.

  • eastcoastoil

    LT,
    I have heard it before but I can’t remember the argument against it….

    Could Teddy be that coke machine we are looking for? Has he ever been tried, a year in OKC?

  • a lg dubl dubl

    I still think trading the 7th pick for help now is what the team needs.

    Now is the time to prey on teams like Boston and Philly who are against(or over) the cap.

    • Quicksilver ballet

      Love Galchenyuk, but why would the Habs consider dealing him already.

      It would take a monster overpayment to do this. Have to think something along the lines of an Eberle and a subsidized Hemsky perhaps.

      Might have a better chance of success going after Seguin. Maybe with a move along this line, Boston could hang on to the Lucics, Hortons, Ferences on their roster.

        • Bucknuck

          I agree with that. No way those teams trade those players (you can include players like Evander Kane and Steve Stamkos and and and), unless it’s a massive overpay (Think Hall and our #7). It doesn’t make sense for them otherwise.

          I think this team has the top end talent and needs to focus on the second tier. If MacT can get one more goal per game out of the third/fourth lines then the team will be above the cut line.

          • DSF

            What a peculiar notion.

            If the Oilers got “one more goal per game out of the third/fourth lines”, they would be the highest scoring team in the league by a country mile.

            Last season Pittsburgh scored 3.38 GPG.

            If the Oilers scored an additional 1 GPG, they would score 3.56 GPG.

            The highest scoring team since the last lockout was the 2009/10 Washington Capitals at 3.82 GPG.

            Expecting your bottom 6, given how little ice time they get, to score anywhere near that much is just a pipe dram.

            Typically, good teams get a lot of secondary scoring from their defense and, other than Schultz Jr., they’re a dead zone on the back end.

            Jeff Petry was the second highest scoring defenseman on the Oilers last season and all he could manage was 12 points.

            Vancouver. for example, had 4 defensemen to hit that mark or better.

            Chicago also had four.

          • Bucknuck

            You’re absolutely right. I should have used the words “secondary scoring” but I didn’t want to include the second line.

            You actually emphasized my point rather well. I don’t think the top lines are the problem, it’s everyone else that needs to put the puck in the net, and if you include the bottom four defensemen, then that is ten players. Expecting ten players increase their goal production by eight goals per is a LOT, but when you consider that outside the top defender and the top six, there were only 30 goals scored, there is a LOT of room for improvement.

            And you demonstrated that if they up their game in the bottom portion of the roster that it would put them up with the elite. Thank you. You made the point for me.

            Thanks

          • Kodiak

            The Oilers scored 2.56 g/g. Adding a goal a game would have them scoring 3.56, not 4.56. I think most people are astute enough to understand the gist of what Bucknuck was trying to say, that we need to have a more productive bottom six. Even adding 0.25 g/g would have put us 7th in scoring this past season.
            I’d focus a lot more on improving our defence too, but there’s no question an improved bottom six is a must as well.

  • eastcoastoil

    PLEASE MacT do NOT sign gagner to a big bloated contract!
    Making him impossible to get rid of in two years when he loses
    His shine.(Shawn horcoff) lets just trade him now while his value
    is high! I promise you won’t regret it!

    • 24% body fat

      agreed but we have already done this with Eberle. This is why while eberle has a high value with the rest of the league and is overpaid I believe he is the one we should be trading to get the Dman.

      I would rather not trade any of them, but you need value contracts and fair ones. Not over paid ones based on one year. (see gagners next contract)

      In a perfect world eberle would be at 5M and Gagner would only have a case for max 5 and settle for 4.2.

      Damn you tambo for this stupid 6M dollar precipitant.
      Hall is the best player why does anyone get paid as much as him.

      Also could you imagine still having our 3rd and 4th this year and taking a good risk at Slepyshev with one of those picks.

      • nuge2drai

        I would have to argue with out question eberle will be the better
        Player for years to come out of him and gagner. And if eberle is overpaid
        Has yet to be determined (i really hope thats not the case lol)as his big contract starts this year doesn’t it?
        I think gagner is the perfect trade chip for us his contracts up,he’s had one of his better seasons and he’s a small player on a small team. i think those three things scream trade.
        I know a lot of people feel differnt, but I love the idea of more Russians in the oilers system

  • T__Bone88

    This is going to be the longest week ever waiting until the finals are over so that all heck can break loose on trades/signings/buyouts. The cup finals have been amazing but I am now looking forward to the off-season to see what MacT does. It will be a tough choice what to do with the 7th overall, do you trade it for immediate help or draft the player knowing that they won’t make an impact for at least 2-3 years. If the plan is to make the Oilers better now and Monahan is gone by the 7th selection I would trade for an upgrade on 2nd line center or a top 1/2 defenseman.

  • otter2233

    Hey LT, I agree aboot Peckham’s possible value as much needed toughness. If the Oilers give him a chance for one more season is Dallas Eakins the type of coach who could get the most out of him? Giving up on Peckham now feels like giving up Matt Greene years ago…

    • Ever the Optimist

      Might be an idea to start him in the AHL at a wing position and see how his conditioning is this year or if we have another perennial pancake lover.

    • Ever the Optimist

      Might be an idea to start him in the AHL at a wing position and see how his conditioning is this year or if we have another perennial pancake lover.

    • Lowetide

      tough to go back, though. Oilers are in a hole this draft because they were forced to deal a pick in this deep draft to get Fistric.

      History tells us NHL teams don’t take kindly to things like that.

  • John Chambers

    LT, you mentioned a week or so ago that you had a hunch Gagner would be dealt.

    What do you think the chances are that MacT is willing to trade a player like Yak or Eberle if the right package, one that would include a Ryan McDonagh or Jon Carlson & change, are available?

    Think the Silver Fox has the stones to make a deal like that?

    • Lowetide

      John I can`t see him trading any of the #1’s, Eberle or Schultz the younger this summer. Maybe next summer if they fail miserably, but not this summer. New GM will make moves but doubt he’ll make a move that could be considered reckless.