THE TEAM….

Canada finally announced their 2014 roster for the Sochi Olympics, and without a doubt the biggest surprise is Claude Giroux not making the team.

There are eleven returning players on the 25-man roster, but in my eyes Rick Nash continues to be the most overrated player in the NHL. Nash has had one 70-point season, and since the 2010 Olympics he has scored 185 points in 228 games, 25th most amongst Canadian-born players. In that same time span Marty St.Louis has scored the most points, 271, while Giroux is third with 255.

Giroux is flat out more competitive game in, game out than Nash. Nash has only two goals in 16 NHL playoff games, but Hockey Canada seems to put more onus on the fact he has played well at the water-downed World Championships.

Nash did play okay at the last Olympics, but how much of that was because he was on Toews line, and Toews was the best player in the tournament.

Nash has 18 points in 27 games this year. No one can say he is playing well, or close to the level of Claude Giroux, but Hockey Canada choose him because he’s played for them before. I guess Giroux should not play crappier in the NHL so his team could miss the playoffs and he can pad his stats at the World Championships.

Here is the roster, returning players have **.

Goalies:

  • Roberto Luongo**
  • Carey Price
  • Mike Smith

Defence:

  • Jay Bouwmeester
  • Drew Doughty**
  • Dan Hamuis
  • Duncan Keith**
  • Alex Pietrangelo
  • PK Subban
  • Marc-Edouard Vlasic
  • Shea Weber**

Forwards:

  • Jamie Benn
  • Patrice Bergeron**
  • Jeff Carter
  • Sidney Crosby**
  • Matt Duchene
  • Ryan Getzlaf**
  • Chris Kunitz
  • Patrick Marleau**
  • Rick Nash**
  • Corey Perry**
  • Patrick Sharp
  • Steven Stamkos
  • John Tavares
  • Jonathan Toews**

I still believe Canada is the favourite, because of the blueline and their top-six forwards; Crosby, Tavares, Stamkos, Getzlaf, Perry and Toews.

It will be an awesome tournament and I can’t wait to watch, but picking Nash over Giroux makes little sense. Essentially they are basing it on seven good games that happened four years ago. Horrible decision.

Which decision surpised you?

RECENTLY BY JASON GREGOR 

  • Tikkanese

    World Cup is superior to the Olympics.

    1. Every team gets an actual training camp. This eliminates the debates over who should have been named to the team. It also creates chemistry for the teams by not relying on one or two practices for that chemistry.

    2. No interupted NHL schedule

    3. No condensed NHL schedule

    4. No 5 A.M. game times due to time zone issues

    5. Gives us hockey in the summer

    6. The players will like it better as they will get paid for it as opposed to the Olympics

    7. If Olympics are back to the amateurs, it gives the possibility of another “Miracle On Ice” to happen again

    8. An amateur Olympic program in the past gave us great players such as Cliff Ronning, that would have never made it otherwise. It also strengthens other tournaments such as the Spengler Cup

    9. There would be more parity in the Olympics. Even the USA domination of basketball is another example for things to change

    • Spydyr

      I also like the World Cup idea but it should be every four years not every two. If it happens too often players will start to back out after long playoff runs.

      They should also find that old Canada Cup trophy , award that and call it The Canada Cup.

      Gretzky to Lemiuix….. Will it ever get better?

      • Serious Gord

        It will be every two – twice the dough ray me.

        And twice as many discussions like this.

        I love the idea it should be the cda cup. and the cup is on display at the HHOF – it has a slight bend in its tip and looks fantastic.

        So every two years – the rotation would be: Canada – Russia/Eastern Europe – United States – Scandinavia. – Thus big crowds every year – not the empty stands like you are going to see in seoul.

    • Zamboni Driver

      I think that most of this post was written in a language only Esa Tikkanen would understand.

      Particularly #8 and #9.

      CLIFF RONNING??!!

      Also, pros already play in hoops, and the Americans have had to work their asses off lately to win. In fact they won a bronze in 2004.

      • Tikkanese

        Yea 5’8″ Cliff Ronning who probably would have never got an NHL shot if it wasn’t for the Canadian program. 869 points in 1137 career NHL games. That’s nothing to “??!!” about.

    • Johnnydapunk

      I’m prepared for a trashing here…

      I don’t know if I would call the World Cup superior, it’s different and is for a different market.

      I’m not going to question all of your points as there is only a few that I kindof disagree with.

      4. Regarding time zones, that 5 am start thing, it only applies to North America as 5 am as in Europe it is a normal evening time. I don’t see that being an issue if the “World Cup” is actually held worldwide.

      5. I could be wrong, but the NHL has an 82 game schedule which is one of the longest hockey schedules worldwide, and I don’t know how much the players would want to play or prepare for a summer tournament. I think the players breaking down would be an issue.

      6. I. Not sure where payment would come in unless there was some type of prize money involved, there is also the issue of insurance as I don’t think too many team owners would be or even are happy with releasing their 5 mil a year player for a summer tournament.

      7/9 I don’t think there is any fear of a “Miracle on Ice” moment not happening as there is quite a bit of parity among Olympic teams, it just takes time, and you are seeing it with teams like Switzerland for example, who beat Canada in 2010 in the round robin part. I think the IIHF is doing a tremendous job of raising the level of international hockey with their World Championship structure. No one really expected the Finns to win the World Juniors this year, so gold is not guaranteed for anyone.

      8. I don’t think there is any country that has a full time “National team” anymore, I can only guess that it is a money issue as a National Team program can’t be cheap. Something similar to football(soccer) scenario with national team breaks can’t really work either as the season is pretty packed as it is.

      The idea of a “World Cup” of hockey in the format that was used in 2004 and before, seems only popular in North America as a lot of Europeans take the Olympics and IIHF World Championships as their “World Cup” they both are massively important and popular to watch and players take it very seriously (well Europeans )

      Ideally it would be good for the IIHF to move the world championships to a later time so it would get more North American interest, but I guess that affects the European leagues.

      Apologies for the novel, I get on a topic and latch on to it 😛

      • Serious Gord

        Follow the money.

        The various Hockey federations make bupkiss sending teams to the olympics. Hell the NHL wasn’t even allowed to put a video of the gold medal goal on its website. Because of that the olympics have been a dead cat in terms of marketing revenues for the NHL/KHL.

        A World Cup will make tons of dough every two years for everyone – including NHL players who won’t even be playing via revenue sharing. The KHL and Swedish Elite leagues will be all over it.

        The only reason why the pros went to Sochi was as a peace offering to the KHL. Now that that has been done the Pro leagues will sit down and hammer out the format for a pro world cup in 2016.

        Played in last half of sept and first week of oct. – Think world cup final on Canadian Thanksgiving every two years…

    • Serious Gord

      It will never go back to amateur. It will be U20 just like soccer. that means a few NHLers and KHLers will be eligible and will play.

      And thus it will be the world juniors on steroids – and the imbalances will remain.

  • S cottV

    I wonder where the Oilers had Jamie Benn in the 2007 draft?

    They took a lot of guys ahead of him that never turned into anything close to this guy.

    He would sure look good at centre for the Oilers.

    • pkam

      29 other teams passed on him for 4 rounds. Oilers didn’t even have a 2nd and 3rd round picks that year. So in a sense, we were better than the other 29 teams since they all had more picks than us yet they passed on him.

      • S cottV

        I guess he played in the BCJHL, in his draft year, so Vancouver comes out looking the dumbest. He put up a lot of points that year in Victoria, so – the Oilers should have been aware.

    • A-Mc

      It might spark some epic LULZ if someone were to ‘leak’ edmontons draft rankings over the last 8 years.

      I’m rather curious about the disparity between teams’ rankings, and their reasoning behind it.

      • Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)

        If you look closely at the Oil Change episode that covers the draft there are several frames of video where they show last years list but they blur out the names……but you can actually figure out the names based on the blurred letters, combined with the names we know are on the list, and the LENGTH of the names.

        If I remember correctly they had Monahan at 4 and Nichushkyn right after Nurse. But my memory is bad….someone should go back and view it again.

  • A-Mc

    surprises:

    left off – St Louis, Giroux
    included – Nash, Benn, Marleau

    I’m not surprised Hall didn’t make it. Ithink he should be there as 13 or 14th fwd at teh very least. And I just can’t believe he’s not included in the notable ommissions. Didn’t we just go through Team Canada coming in 4th (WJHC) with a “safe team” and with the “best fit”.

    Hall hurt by playing for a losing team? WEll Nash starred on those powerhouses in Columbus and NY. And Marleau’s SJ Sharks have disappeared in the playoffs as many times as the oilers have missed. But the 2 Memorial Cup winner& MVP doesn’t.

    How many natural wingers on the team? I count 5 (source NHL.com) and 9 natural centers. I guess knowing how to play wing isn’t a consideration. They’ll adjust.

    I wish them good luck. They going to need it!

  • Rick Stroppel

    HUH?

    Like is says on the back of a losing lottery ticket, “please try again”.

    Interesting pattern relating to Crosby. Kunitz is Crosby’s linemate, he is IN. Giroux and Crosby hate each other, Giroux is OUT. Matt Duchene trains with Crosby in the summer, Duchene is IN. Is is possible the nabobs are afraid to stand up to Mr. Wonderful?

    I hope they win gold, I think they will. But if they do not, I will be very dis-a-POINTED!

  • Tikkanese

    I threw up in my mouth a little when I heard Nash’s name called.

    I’m on the fence with Kunitz. Yes, he has relied somewhat on Crosby but the fact remains that he is producing at a very impressive rate right now.

    James Neal is a big snub IMO. Everyone talks about Couture being such a snub, but Neal has produced a lot more goals and points than Couture from 2011-12 until now.

    I would much rather see Giroux or Neal over Nash.

  • Zarny

    Haha…I love the over-reaction.

    Nash over Giroux and St. Louis surprised me but come on…shocking? No. Shawn Horcoff would have been “shocking”.

    Statistically Nash probably is over-rated but he’s always been a player who dazzles in person. Big guy that is fast and can stick-handle in a phone booth. Not playing well after his concussion tho.

    Nash has also been there, done that. When you watch the World Jr’s lay an egg and play to not lose due to the pressure, being able to perform in the moment is key and was probably a factor in selecting Carter, Nash and Marleau.

    Kunitz was a conundrum. Can’t deny his stats and Sid is notoriously hard to play with. Individually I certainly think there are better players but established chemistry in a short tourney is very valuable so it’s not surprising selection.

    Seabrook missing out is a shame; simply a numbers game on the right side. Hamhuis and Vlasic though are good all-around D that cheat a bit on the defensive side. Good options to pair with Weber.

    • ToppsSmith

      He is one of the better defensive choices. He has wheels and can see the plays develop. He is an extremely smart player. However I didn’t expect to see him.

      • S cottV

        He also has a lot of international experience and plays well on big ice.

        It is a different game and some guys more suited than others, to make the adjustments required.

  • Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)

    Biggest shock to me is that a dozen or so highly paid experts with decades of NHL experience and acumen have been meeting on this roster for about 18 months…dozens of meetings, hundreds of man hours, etc….and give or take one or two players…between whom the difference is razor thin, they come up with the exact same roster as a few hundred fans on a blog site who put about twenty minutes thought into it…..incredible when you think about it…….I think the process is over hyped.

  • 24% body fat

    If Gagner gets traded to Pittsburg and plays RW with Crosby does that mean he qualifies for the olympics?

    Also if Kunitz is there to play with crosby and we know he is not one of the best four LWs than why would Seabrook not make the team to play with Keith when he is a better option than Hamhuis or Vlassic.

    They made this choice based on handedness and not skill. So instead of the better player with more skill and playing with his partner for chemistry they decided to take an inferior player because they dont think elite players can take a pass on their back hand.

      • 24% body fat

        I didnt say they dont have skil, I said they dont have as much skill.

        My point was they made the decision on bringing an inferior player to play with crosby even though there were better options. However they did not use that reasoning when selecting the D. Seabrook is a better player than hamhuis and vlasic and has chemistry with keith, but they decided that our great players cant play with there back hand so lets take worse players.

        Read the context properly before you criticize someone.

        Idiot.

        • ToppsSmith

          I read it just fine….you said inferior players…according to you Kunitz is inferior to who at left wing?
          Again by your logic what constitutes an inferior player when building a team?

          IDIOT.

          • ToppsSmith

            You still havent said how he’s inferior… so explain…you also said they went with “handedness” over “skill”, so how are you arguing against Kunitz skill?
            IDIOT.

          • ToppsSmith

            I think Kunitz was more a pick to stick with Crosby who he has played with for a good part of the year. Instant chemistry for a national team is hard to get. I think a few of these guys made the team on that alone. Someone a Superstar can bounce off of naturally. Other nations will lack this at this level. Also he can play all 4 lines. Kunitz is a smarter pick if you look deep at it.

          • Zarny

            The only place where this is an issue is in sOiler country, Hall doesn’t even make the TSN poll as a suprise not being on the team. He’s not the first or second highest scoring LW from Canada either, he’s 3rd. I wonder if they are whining in Winnipeg today (and showing how a “fan” struggles to be objective) that Bryan Little never came up since he was as of last night the 4th highest point totalled RW, behind Eberle who also never came up.

          • Zarny

            Hall has the highest pt/gm for all Canadian LW over the last year.

            And no Hall doesn’t make the TSN poll because he turned 22 less than 2 months ago and has only played 209 NHL games.

            Compared to say Duchene who is 10 months older and has played close to 100 more NHL games.

            If the Olympics were next year Hall would be a lock.

            Deal with it.

          • Zarny

            So it’s all about age? Nothing to do with any other shortcomings in his game? All you do is post the same thing about the age of him and Duchene, as if that’s the sole reason.

          • Zarny

            Yeesh are you ever slow.

            The shortcomings in Hall’s game (ie risk and not a good enough 200 ft game) are a direct correlation to his age and lack of experience.

            No different than Crosby in 2006 or Stamkos in 2010…except Hall is younger and less experienced than both at the time.

            Was Mike Richards a better player than Stamkos in 2010? No, he had simply been around the block before and when you’re playing against the best of the best that matters regardless of how skilled you are.

            I get it…you’re a troll that doesn’t like Hall.

            Unfortunately for you that will last for about another year. And then Hall will be a lock for the top LW spot like Crosby has 1C locked up now.

          • A-Mc

            So you have a delorean and can time travel, or predict the future now…how coool is that. It’s not a lock that he learns or become the more well rounded guy needed to be that guy. I’m trolling the idiots that seem to think Kunitz isn’t the right pick, based on what i have no clue.

          • Zarny

            Yep, my Delorean is red and it is super cool.

            Stamkos and Tavares aren’t the most well-rounded players either. Their offense though makes up for it as will Hall’s.

            Hall has 88 pts in his last 82 games as a 21 y/o. 5-10 players a year put up more than a pt/gm over a whole season.

            Kunitz is a questionable pick because the debate is top line with Crosby or not good enough for the Olympics.

          • Tikkanese

            Red is not cool at all.

            you are speaking in the future about Hall again, so that is meaningless right now. I’m not arguing that he’ll most likely be way more in the mix in the future if he actually improves in other aspects besides offense.

            Again…points….Kunitz top LW for points…Hall third..and he plays on a good team where you are accountable and dont get to take a lot of chances and not come back full speed…Hall.

            Points…is only a part of the equation.

          • ToppsSmith

            Ya I said it before and I’ll say it again. I would loved to see Hall and Eberle play on the big ice and play with a pure playmaker like Thorton. I think Hall didn’t come up on TSN because that network hates the west coast teams. (Like most networks) they put them on TV, but they always favor Toronto or Montreal. It’s grossly obvious too.

          • Spydyr

            They have a deal to broadcast Maple Laugh games even after the sportsnet takeover, so theres that. Also the population base has something to do with it. Also , go to a Laughs game or a Habs game in a visiting Canadian rink and that should tell you something. Hall didn’t come up because skating fast in straight lines and only playing offense doesn’t get you in the mix.

  • **

    I can see putting Marleau in there because fo need for speed on the bigger ice and since they brought CArter they needed that. I can see CArter being there becuase they need at least one net crasher with size and good hands. I can see MAtt Douchene in replacing Couture because of the injury, but Nash??? it’s not as bad a s the Bobby Ryan snub, but Nash over Girou, St. Louis or even Thronton, well that’s just crazy.

    I would have prefered Seabrook over either Vlasic or Hamhius, but since Babcok wants 4 and 4, oh well.

    Stamkos is going to play, even if he has to duck tape his whole leg.

  • A-Mc

    I had 1 hope going in: i really wanted either Duchene or Hall to make the team. Both these players have something to their game that is hard to pin down. I think, if given the opportunity, they could really shine.

    I am really happy for Matt Duchene! The announcement leaves me with a smile on my face.

    My only gripe revolves around Nash. He’s an OK player but he is no where near the player of some of these other guys being left off.

    Many of the players being left off the team contribute greatly to their clubs. WHen they step on the ice, it’s apparent that they are in play and they are difference makers. The only way i know Rick Nash is on the ice is to look for his number.. He doesnt stand out and doesnt really contribute in a way that you would expect to see from a player that was named to the best Olympic hockey team of 2014.

    • Zarny

      Nash had 42 pts in 44 games last year and played great. He has looked less than himself after the concussion this year and I agree there are better picks.

      But to say Nash is an “OK” player is ridiculous.

      OK players don’t even get mentioned in the group of players cut before making final cuts for invitations to the orientation camp.

      • A-Mc

        So what?

        St. Louis had 60, Eric Stall 53 and Taylor hall 50.

        Mike Ribeiro had more points than Nash last year, with 49

        Giroux had 48, Ladd had 46 and Kadri had 44, Moulson had 44 and Parenteau had 43pts.

        Who gives a flying F#ck that Nash had 42 points last season.

        With the super stars that comprise Team Canada, Nash is simply “OK”. There are definitely better options.

        • Zarny

          It’s simple dumba**…I agree there are better selections than Nash.

          Calling Nash “OK” though is flat out idiotic; even with the superstars that comprise Team Canada.

          Because the reality is that even though I don’t think Nash should have been selected he’s on the short list of reserves well ahead of Ladd, Kadri, Moulson, Ribeiro and Parenteau.

          It is beyond laughable how dolts like you call a F who probably should 15-16th right now not 12-13th “OK”.

          LAUGHABLE. Like literally ROFLMAO.

          • A-Mc

            When people are discussing the roster for team canada, things are said like “he wouldnt be good for this team”, “he isn’t a good option”, “That’s an OK choice, but for my money there are players who are better”, etc.

            Rick Nash hasn’t been described as a “good” option. “Good”, “Great fit”, “Excellent choice”, “Super player”, etc. None of these terms are used to describe Nash’s place on this team.

            He’s an OK choice, but (as you agree) there are better options. He’s an OK player for Team Canada. That’s all i’m saying. I wouldnt have taken him and obviously you agree.

            I’m really not sure why you’ve created this Hill over the “OK” Nash label, and are now willing to die on it.

            Nash is a great player in the NHL. He’s an OK player for Team Canada. Using terms like Dumba$$, dolt, idiotic, and then finishing with the condescending term of “laughable”, is a little much dont you think?

            It is my observation that you try fairly hard to be pedantic at best, and flat out Troll-like at worst. Why all the negativity man!?

            CAN’T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!?!

          • Zarny

            You’re right it is a bit much and troll-like. My bad.

            I think it’s simply ridiculous to label a player that is at worst 15-16th on the depth chart as OK.

            Perhaps it’s semantics, but Nash is a good choice for Team Canada. IMO not the best choice but he’s far better than OK.

            Rob Zaumner in Nagano. Now that was an OK pick.

        • ToppsSmith

          Why are you obsessing with points. We have a ton of scoring on the team, guys like Nash will play a physical role that others can’t. He plays a complete game, which will at times not score, but will tighten up a complete D-Game. Why does everyone want a team of cherry pickers. Teams built that way in the past has failed. I think Nash was a smart pick.

          • A-Mc

            The guy i quoted used points, so i responded in his language.

            I’m far from obsessing. Please go back and read what was said in the discussion from the begining.

  • paul wodehouse

    … anyone who says that 87 is a great player AND the face of Team Canada but is not the veteran presence needs to rethink his statement…someone said Marleau, kidding right? look further up and down this rooster and find the missing vet you speak about…•Jay Bouwmeester?

    if it’s not Sid you tell us all here Vern…who do you see who’s better than Sid…

    • Spydyr

      best player = best leader right?

      wrong….as an oiler fan i’d think you would know this more then anyone…who was the last best player while also team captain for us? Doug Weight probably in what 2004? 03? since then…jason smith who was not our best player, then moreau and now ference same deal.

      why did hall not get the captaincy of the oil this year? is hall not a great player or not the face of the oil? i wouldn’t be surprised if 87 is not named captain of canada and instead it goes to someone like….keith or weber or whatever…you get my point.

      (p.s. thanks for agreeing with me on the marleau thing, he’s one of the FEW question marks that many ppl have already mentioned)

  • Spydyr

    Defence looks great can the Oilers get one of them please.

    Nash and Marleau would not be on my team. Replace them with Giroux and St.Louis. Although one of them should replace Stamkos eventually.

    Goaltending may be an issue.

  • Spydyr

    Look at all these Oiler fans talking about who should and should not be on the team.

    Your credibility is lacking most of you thought the Oilers were a playoff team this year.

    Ha Ha Ha

  • PlayDirty

    Was there more anticipation to find out who was on the team so we could start getting behind the guys or so everyone could start b!tching about who was omitted? I think it took TSN all of 3 seconds to turn the focus away from supporting the team to leading the complaints about who was left out.

    Bottom line is we have the best players. Let’s focus on getting behind those who are going and forget about those who aren’t.

    G’Oh Canada!

  • Romulus' Apotheosis

    They made some mistakes (cough, Bergeron, Hamhuis, Carter, Bouwmeester, Nash), but they got some right (Duchene, Subban, Vlasic, Benn, Pietrangelo). Overall, I think they got more correct than not and I’m stoked for Canada’s 2014 Gold Medal Run!

  • Oilerz4life

    It is not all about the points. Most people think if you build an All-Star team you win. I really don’t care that X got more points than Y. Look at J. Toews Bergeron 2 way players that put up points. YOUR BUILDING A TEAM.

    Nash has an incredible record for international hockey.

    • S cottV

      Yeah – hard to ignore that Nash is much bigger with more reach, is skilled and doesnt give up anything in speed, as compared to Giroux.

      As long as you can move, that stuff comes in handy on the big rink.

    • A-Mc

      Giroux has a much better compete level at both ends of the ice. Nash has basically built his reputation on about 3 really unbelievable highlight reel goals. He’s a decent top 6 forward but you can’t say that he’s better defensively or offensively. Also Giroux can play wing or center, Nash can’t.

    • A-Mc

      i neeeeeed ‘dis!

      This is all we have to look forward to this year. It’ll be a welcome distraction.

      Although i’m going to have to stay away from twitter and the interwebs until after i finish watching the games.

      If canada makes it into the final medal rounds, i might just take the next day off work so i can watch the games live. Hearing the score before you’ve watched the game is such a killjoy and with the excitement of the final in 2010.. i dont think there’s any choice. I need to watch it live!

  • Zarny

    Some questions for sure, But if we win it was correct, if we lose
    then we will further question these picks for 4 more years.

    Go Canada ! once you have that jersey on , no matter if i agree or not
    you are my boys !.

  • Time Travelling Sean

    What if Crosby gets injured? Or Crosby hits an awful dry streak? Kunitz will be dead weight if that happens.

    I’d rather have someone not ride Crosby’s coat tails to success but could rather make Crosby better or if Crosby falters pick up the weight himself and help move the team/line.

    Nash is getting there on legacy, I’d rather have Giroux on big ice than Nash on big ice.

  • Serious Gord

    Looking through the list of forwards – the G and D I have zero problem with – Fleury has the same rep with hockey cda as dubnyk has with oiler fans. 4left 4right makes perfect sense – three things dominate:

    Speed

    Size

    Seniority

    Speed – every player is in the top percentile for speed

    Size – every player is 6ft or over except crosby and Duchene – both at 5’11”

    Seniority – eleven alumni

    Apply all those criteria and the likes of st louis (size) and Giroux (5’11” 172lbs and declined to play for HC in the past) are knocked out.

    This is a team that will not be beaten to a puck nor will it be knocked off the puck.

    The one thing that may be missing – believe it or not – or at least was further down the list is playmaking. And playmaking begets scoring chances and goals. This may be a team that struggles to score against a disciplined defensive team – i’m looking at you sweden.

    The three that I quibble with are:

    Marleau – Got exposed/disappeared in the playoffs in years past. Perhaps in a less physically brutal olympic game he will play at a high level

    Carter – Defensively how good is he? aren’t there better options (see below)

    Nash – Big ? – is he back to past levels or is he damaged like LeCavalier? going to be hard to tell him to go on the DL if he is subpar.

    In their place i would have like to have seen:

    Seguin – excellent two way player and playmaker can SKATE

    Hall – lots of things in his favour – two Mem cup MVPs, natural LW to name two

    Skinner – natural LW – great skater, even better shot- beats the very best goalies, Fearless

    All three are part of the young guard, play on teams that are out of the playoffs, and are not part of the HC establishment.

    Should this team fail, the place to start in the questioning will be with leaving these guys off. TOO conservative and approach will be the refrain.

    • Zarny

      Bang on that Hockey Canada favors seniority and experience. When you see Canada’s World Jr’s freeze under the pressure it’s easy to see why.

      Marleau will be fine on big ice. Super fast, kills penalties and extremely versatile. He doesn’t have to be the man.

      Carter is very good defensively contrary to some comments here. He killed penalties with Richards in Phi. Speed is the question mark with Carter on the big ice.

      Nash is a big ?. Not playing well after the concussion, but again kills penalties and can play on a checking line.

      Seguin and Hall are too young and inexperienced. They still try to force too risky plays instead of being patient.

      Not to mention Bos had to put a bodyguard in front of Seguin’s hotel room during the playoffs so he wouldn’t skip out and party. Talented but nowhere near mature enough to play against the best of the best.

      Skinner simply isn’t good enough. He’s not the same caliber as Hall or Seguin.

      • Serious Gord

        Note that I used the term “quibble”. I really don’t have any big issues with the players picked.

        And I think my point stands: if they fail it will be blamed on a process that was too conservative.

        Seguin seems to grown up lots in the past few months

        And skinner is right behind Tyler and Taylor – and couture is out with an injury.

  • Zarny

    I understand the lefty-right balance but I would have had Seabrook there before Hamhuis. Seabrook played poorly at the last Olympics but he is a better player now and likely wouldn’t be as flustered this time around. I agree that Giroux should have made the team, he is the biggest surprise omission to me. I would have had him on the team before Nash or Carter.

    Team Canada will always have a gold-medal calibre roster on paper. The key will be getting the goaltending because most other countries have better goaltending on paper. After seeing the final rosters, I think Sweden might have the most complete roster.

  • Zarny

    New Rule: Nobody is allowed to use the semicolon anymore. Use a period instead. 90% of the posters on this board use it incorrectly.

    Jonathan Willis uses them correctly, albeit too liberally.

  • Spydyr

    Congrats to Hemmer for making Team Czech

    and Petr Nedved!!!!! Are you kidding me at 42 years young – wait until braintrust signs him to a 3 year deal for the Oil . . . .

  • Newj

    No Joe Thornton?

    Until Tavares 5pt night yesterday, he was tied for 3rd in NHL scoring & leading the league in helpers.

    I get the issue that he is behind Syd, Getzlaf & Bergeron at centre, but he could not make a valuable winger?

    Many say he is too slow? He wasn’t invited to the summer camp, but somehow I’ve got to believe he’s capable of helping Team Cda.

    What am I missing..he wasnt on many radars of the so called pundits.

    Only one I didnt agree with was Nash on the team..should have been Jumbo Joe or MSL.