DUBNYK TRADED TO PREDS… ACQUIRE SCRIVENS

The Oilers have traded Devan Dubnyk to the Nashville Predators for centre/winger Matt Hendricks.

Hendricks is in the first of a four-year deal that pays him $1.85 million.

Dubnyk will be a UFA at the end of the season.

Hendricks is a 4th line guy who kills penalties.

He will be their 4th line centre, maybe winger, for the foreseeable future, so clearly the organization isn’t that high on Anton Lander. Lander needs to improve his footspeed. I know some won’t like Hendricks’ contract, and that is fair, but if the cap keeps going up it won’t look as bad as it does today. He doesn’t bring any offence, however, so in two years it could look really bad. A gamble for sure.

He plays the 2nd most PK minutes of any Nashville forward, so expect him to play a lot on the PK here. The Preds PK is currently 13th.

Thoughts?

According to Bob McKenzie the Oilers have acquired Edmonton native Ben Scrivens from LA for a 3rd round pick as well.

So Hendricks and Scrivens for Dubnyk and a 3rd…

Thoughts?

      • smiliegirl15

        I don’t disagree however all the talk lately has been how Edmonton needs some better Dmen … so we get a forward. Makes perfect sense to me.

        Is the writing on the wall now for Gagner? Moved to wing and centre shored up so we won’t miss him there. We don’t really need him as a right winger either. Maybe MacT has something else in the works too.

        • 2004Z06

          One can hope more to follow, but any team with a decent 1-2 D man available is likely in the playoff picture and won’t give em up til the off season. They also know Edmonton is ripe for the picking. I am sure anyone entertaining offers is looking for something Mac T isn’t prepared to give up.

  • vetinari

    Taken alone, I was surprised. Add in the Scrivener trade for a third rounder and we finally have a potential long term starter (fingers crossed) and a PK, defensive specialist. Cautious thumbs up on these deals.

  • reaperfunkss

    In a way i hope Dubs getsd some actual coaching and can develop fairly quickly. That may be the tipping point for Katz to realize he has morons working for him…Although i highly doubt it.

    I personally don’t think Dubby will be great because he still doesnt move laterally that well and cant track the puck effectivly but if Nashville has actual coaches who can develop a player he may turn it around.

    Heard a rumor that the Oilers are paying part of dubnyks salary. Is this true?

  • 2004Z06

    Lander is what 22 and an RFA. Why does he need to be flushed? Everyone is always calling for the “Detroit model” let him keep rolling in the AHL where he is the Captain and is turning himself into a ppg player.

  • Jack Dupp

    I have no issues with these trades. Clearing out salary and getting a defensive 4th line center that plays on the pk? Sounds like a smart move for a team that wont make the playoffs. It also makes Gagner expendable. Arc will continue to center the 2nd line. Gordon stays put and Smytty goes back to the wing on the third.

  • Jack Dupp

    Perfect – good move Oilers. Finally. Now get Scrivens a couple of decent Defensemen. We have our Goalie for the future , with L.B. a few years away. The goaltending situation now looks better.

    • reaperfunkss

      Trying. We now credit trying? Screw that. The taxpayer is handing over hundreds of millions of dollars for trying?

      Sorry, more of the same from a group of fools trying to save, if not their jobs, then their credibility in the eyes of the hockey world.

      I like scrivens but put into this mess will not do well for him

  • 2004Z06

    In order for a team to get better they do not have to win every trade. What they must do is be prepared to trade and then win the key trades. This is not a key trade but it is comforting to know we now have one more reliable forward with some size and grit and effort. I support MacT and wish him luck going forward. Patience and class Oiler fans.

  • Rick Stroppel

    SHUFFLING DECKCHAIRS

    Ben Scrivens has decent career stats but you really have to wonder how he will look playing behind the Oilers defense.

    Someone suggested Matt Hendricks will “add toughness”. The following players were also brought in to “add toughness”: MacIntyre, Hordichuck, Eager, Brown.

    I cannot wait for the press conference where MacTavish is up there, all smug and smiling and happy, telling fans these are the “bold moves” he promised. Sorry folks. The Oilers are not an appreciably better team than they were yesterday.

    • 2004Z06

      I would argue that Scrivens can’t be worse. We also improved our horrific PK and our 4 th line.And we didn’t have to mortgage the future to do it.

      Not bold, but not bad.

      • reaperfunkss

        Woo Hoo our 4th line is better!!!! just what this team needed was more AHL level talent. I see the Oilers have most of their office staff on Oilers Nation now.

  • 2004Z06

    I hope that trade to move Dubie works out. My only reservation is another 3rd line player. I hope Mac realizes we need size in the top six too. Scrivens goaltending is not going to help the Oil weak defence.

  • googlist

    I like these moves, i still wish they would’ve given Dubnyk a chance behind a legitimate top 6 d corps, but at least the price was right. I have liked Dubnyk since he got his first start here, but a change of scenery will be much needed not only for him but for us fans too.

        • geoilersgist

          I think that is because a large portion of our bottom 6 aren’t really bottom six players in this league… I am honestly ok with these trades because we got a slightly better goalie and someone who knows their role on the 4th line and can play it.

          • Spydyr

            Scrivens is still unproven. Hendricks is what he is a fourth line player.Good teams draft good players in the second and third round.The Oilers are not a good team.Nice try though.

          • pkam

            Petry is a 2nd rounder, isn’t he? So Petry will never be an NHL regular?

            Pitlick and Marincin are also 2nd rounders. So none of these two will ever be an NHL regulars?

            I think we have about 10 2nd round picks since 2004 (last 10 years), if we can have more than 1, it is better than 10%.

            Looks like we will have at least 2, probably 3. And we haven’t counted the picks of 2011, 2012, and 2013.

          • Tikkanese

            Hate to burst your bubble but Pitlick and Marincin are far from NHL regulars. Sure they have up arrows and Marincin has looked good so far but it’s only been 11 games. Hardly a regular yet. Possible? Yes. Fact? No.

            So you’re saying Gregor’s article where he did all the math and had those figures was wrong? Maybe it was 20% for a 2nd rounder, I don’t remember exactly. Either way it is still terrible odds. That was also odds only for a regular, not a “good player”.

            That’s all 2nd rounders anyways and the conversation was about the trading of a 3rd for Scrivens. Spydyr said all good teams draft good players with 2nd and 3rd rounders. That is hardly the case.

          • pkam

            I am responding to Spydyr’s comment that Oilers are 0%.

            I didn’t say that Pitlick and Marincin are NHL regulars. I asked Spydyr if he think they will ever be NHL regulars?

          • Spydyr

            Scrivens is set to become unrestricted free agent this summer.So if the don’t sign him they will have nothing by the time that 3rd round pick happens at the draft.

            Stupid move.It is not like they were in a playoff battle.

          • Spydyr

            Good managers don’t hope they can keep an asset. They know.

            What I know is if they sign him or not that third round pick is gone.

            Perhaps Mac-T asked permission to talk to him before the trade and they have a deal in the works. If not it is a gamble.

          • Spydyr

            Yeah your probably right. What scares me is that they traded the second and now the third and there is talk about trading the first.

            Not sure if a team ever had a draft where they did not pick till the fourth round. Top five picks at that.

            Imagine looking back in five years at the 2014 draft class.

          • Spydyr

            Trading picks for players works if your contending for a Cup.

            Trading picks for overpaid ,old fourth liners and UFA goalies when your building a team does not work.

          • pkam

            I agree.

            So what should we do? We still have many holes to fill, and we don’t want to wait, and we don’t want to trade away our picks or prospects. So how can we improve our team now?

          • Zarny

            Not true at all.

            Contenders routinely trade picks and prospects for proven NHL players.

            It’s teams that always trade proven NHLers for draft picks that end up losers.

          • Spydyr

            Tell that to Sam Pollock the GM that won 12 Stanley cups.

            Here is one story:

            Among one of his shrewdest moves, was a series of trades in which the Canadiens obtained the first overall pick in the 1971 NHL Entry Draft, the year in which Guy Lafleur would be eligible. It appeared as if the first overall selection would be held by the California Golden Seals so he persuaded Seals owner Charlie Finley to trade the Seals’ pick and François Lacombe in return for Montreal’s first round pick and a veteran Ernie Hicke. However, during the 1970-71 season, the Los Angeles Kings were playing even more poorly than the hapless California Seals. The Kings were in danger of “beating” the Seals out for last place, and if this happened Pollock would lose his first overall pick. Pollock cleverly traded the aging but still valuable Ralph Backstrom to the Kings for two insignificant players. Backstrom’s presence lifted the Kings out of last place, the Seals finished at the bottom, granting the Habs the first pick. Pollock hesitated between Lafleur and Marcel Dionne, but chose Lafleur with his overall no.1 pick.

            Now that is a GM.

          • Zarny

            And go tell that Chicago, Boston, Pit, LA and Detroit who have all traded picks and prospects for proven NHLers over recent years and won the Stanley Cup.

            And one story from 40 years ago in a much different era doens’t have a lot of bearing in 2014.

          • Spydyr

            When your team is contending for the Cup sure trade picks for players to help you win the Cup.When you have not made the playoffs for eight years trading draft picks to placate a growing fire Lowe chant, well there is a reason they missed the playoff for eight years.

          • Zarny

            The Oilers have missed the playoffs because they have consistently traded proven NHL players for draft picks as part of the rebuild.

            Obviously you don’t trade every draft pick away but the LAST thing the Oilers need is another draft pick or rookie in the dressing room.

            They started the season with half the roster having played less than 200 games. Hall, Nuge, Eberle, Yakupov, Schultz…the Oilers have all the young players they need.

            What they need are players 25-32 y/o who can play now and support the young kids.

            They have a logjam of D prospects; half of whom should be packaged with picks for players 5-6 years further developed.

            The Oilers have had multiple 2nd and 3rd round picks in recent years. It’s time to turn the corner.

          • pkam

            Are you suggesting the Bruins GM Peter Chiarelli was not smart enough because he should have tried to trade us a couple of veteran players to help us win some games so the Leafs could finish last and they can get Hall?

          • Serious Gord

            Go check out the stats – Dionne was a far better player who toiled on some of the worst teams in the league and still had a far better career than lafleur.

          • A-Mc

            Not easy to use the word “contenders” and Oilers in the same sentence!

            Hendricks a slight over pay, but dont think Jones is back next year, Smyth likely gone , Hemsky , and maybe Gagner. At least we are adding real sandpaper.

  • billythebullet

    Hendricks > Acton/Lander in 4th line role
    Scrivens > Dubey
    I for one like these 2 moves.
    Everyone wanted dubey gone, ufa back up goalie for a 4th line center. No way u get p.k subban, dustin byfuglien or weber for dubey and a pick. Just saying.

  • Phuryous George

    MacT does cover a lot of holes here. Don’t expect a lot from Hendricks, but 4th liner with size, a lefty in the circle to complement Gordon. And he’s experienced. The Oilers need more experience on the ice.

    But my excitement is for Scrivens. I think a very good team can win with competent goaltending. Scrivens doesn’t need to be a rockstar if the other pieces fall into place. But it’d be real nice if Scrivens continues to play like he did before he got hurt this year.

  • PimKing

    holy wow would you look at that?!? at the very least someone is trying to win, wish the group on the ice ( you specifically worst DEFENCEMEN ever) would try the same.

    i find myself watching most games saying to myself ” just play your own damn position” these dmen just go where ever the hell they want and then when they get scored on you can almost see it in their faces… o ya, riiiight F*ck meeee. and then they press repeat. in my day if my d partner was all over my side i would use my words and communicate to him to piss off and worry about your sh*t the rest will take care of itself.

    so, in conclusion, i like the trades, just hope a new dman is on the way as well, maybe one with 50..4..ok 300 games played.

    everyday im byfuglien….

    • bwar

      Right…Byfuglien makes perfect sense here. He’s horrible on D and comes in outa shape…it’s perfect for him here…since there’s no accountability. Same reason Hall has higher numbers…he can take all the risks he wants and not be held accountable.

      • 24% body fat

        Eakins wouldn’t want this trade unless he felt he could improve buffs fitness. He has been ok defensively before so if the deal happens than I have faith that they feel they can resurrect him.

        Probably have to overpay to get him. I would like wheeler and Ladd instead.

  • As far as I’m concerned, the goalie is a swap of peers, both about the same historically. Bryz is also terrible. Seems to me all we did was gain an extra offensively challenged center – didn’t the Oilers already have that with Lander without giving up another contract spot?