DUBNYK TRADED TO PREDS… ACQUIRE SCRIVENS

The Oilers have traded Devan Dubnyk to the Nashville Predators for centre/winger Matt Hendricks.

Hendricks is in the first of a four-year deal that pays him $1.85 million.

Dubnyk will be a UFA at the end of the season.

Hendricks is a 4th line guy who kills penalties.

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He will be their 4th line centre, maybe winger, for the foreseeable future, so clearly the organization isn’t that high on Anton Lander. Lander needs to improve his footspeed. I know some won’t like Hendricks’ contract, and that is fair, but if the cap keeps going up it won’t look as bad as it does today. He doesn’t bring any offence, however, so in two years it could look really bad. A gamble for sure.

He plays the 2nd most PK minutes of any Nashville forward, so expect him to play a lot on the PK here. The Preds PK is currently 13th.

Thoughts?

According to Bob McKenzie the Oilers have acquired Edmonton native Ben Scrivens from LA for a 3rd round pick as well.

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So Hendricks and Scrivens for Dubnyk and a 3rd…

Thoughts?


  • Spydyr

    I’d say these were not that bad of trades. I’m not saying they are great, but they aren’t Tambo-esque deals.

    The problem is, we stink so bad right now that today’s trades were the most exciting thing for the team since game 10 when we realized that we were going to be god awful again.

    I guess I don’t really care who we trade now… just keep this train in motion so I have something fun to talk about with respect to this team again haha.

    Other than that… I wonder who we’ll get for the 1st overall pick this year?

  • Bucknuck

    Most people think that Scrivens is an upgrade on Dubnyk. Most people think the Oil need more grit and size and veteran presence (Hendricks).

    I hate losing the third round pick, but if Scrivens is the starter that MacT is betting he is, then it’s well worth it.

    I am OK with these trades, since it will make watching this dismal team a little more interesting and I need that right now. That Dallas game depressed my Oilers Mojo.

    • This is what gets me, while Scrivens numbers were better than Dubnyk, he (Scrivens) was playing in front of one of the best defensive team in the NHL.

      He also lost the “back up” position to an AHL goalie……… He also prior to the L.A trade was back & forth between the Marlies & the Leafs.

      If this is the Oilers starter, I’m not at all feeling good about it, Having said that, it can’t be worse then Dubnyk, unless of course they don’t re-sign him….

  • O.C.

    I will never forget the day when Edmonton had the 14th pick in the 2004 Entry Draft. Everyone expected Barry’s son’ Drew to be picked but Buffalo jumped in at 13. Wait, no worries, Rob Schremp was still available.

    Kevin Lowe proudly sauntered up and beamed “With the 14th pick, the Edmonton Oilers are proud to select, from the Kamloops Blazers (really, who could this be?), Devan Dubnyk!”

    I spit out my drink and said “Who the heck is Devan Dubnyk!?!?!?”

    Radulov was picked next. Some others that looked promising were picked after.

    Funny thing was, Rob Schremp kept dropping, dropping, dropping… “gee, does no one like this guy”.

    Then the Oil got “lucky” and picked Rob Schremp with the 25th pick. Cory Schneider went next to Vancouver.

    Ah, the 2004 draft. Who knew, out of that first round class, Edmonton couldn’t land one solid player? Maybe this was a foretelling of things to come.

    Welcome to 2014.

    • 2004Z06

      Sometimes you never know. Perhaps the greatest goalie of our generation, Mary Brodeur, was drafted 20th overall. That means, aside from the Oilers, 18 other teams passed on him. You don’t think 19 teams look back now and say “I wish we drafted him!”?

      Take a look through a few NHL guidebooks and you will see every single team has passed on a player that could have really helped them or have drafted a dud.

    • Spydyr

      If you didn’t know who Dubnyk was that draft year you were not paying attention. He was the top rated goalie in the draft and was widely rumored the Oil would pick him.

      No surprise when he was taken.

      • O.C.

        Those who watched him play said it was a gross mistake by the scouting system. Back then, he was good for that one strange goal, every game, like clockwork.

        Point being, there were some strong needs for the future. Size up front was the main issue against the likes of Dallas. That sounds oddly familiar come to think of it.

        • Truth

          Dubnyk was the best goalie back then because he is huge. In the WHL you don’t need excellent reflexes if you are huge. Even by the time dubbie got the AHL it was apparent he wasn’t great… yet we kept giving him chances.

  • DD was a UFA too so they aren’t worse off in that regard. Henricks can be bought out in the summer if they feel they don’t want the contract and likely couldn’t have traded DD without taking the ugly contract back. Every team has an overpay or two somewhere – if $500K on Henricks is it in a market where the cap is going up, so be it. Giving the squad a tough, gritty veteran to test drive who comes from a winning org (the Caps) for 40 games was badly needed. Yes he’s 32, but there aren’t a lot of NHL miles on him.

    Don’t forget they will be unloading remaining UFAs to restock the picks come the deadline.

  • Hemmercules

    The way I see it is this: Duby has no value, its not going to go up this season and they dont plan on signing him again. Give Scrivens a shot and maybe there is something there. Fairly low risk, season is over anyway.

    MacT see’s something in Hendricks the he feels fills a need on the team. Whatever. Maybe he’s right. Maybe he’s a pleasant surprise. Maybe not. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Money and term looks less than desirable right now but still not that risky of a move.

    Third round pick will come back one way or another. No lost sleep there.

    The Oilers are no better or no worse than they were last night. If these two new players show well then great. If not, they didn’t lose much on taking a chance.

  • Chris.

    If Hendricks can come in and make any kind of contribution its a win.
    Dubnyk was a #1 by default, he’s a #3 on any team with reasonable depth. Any return for a #3 ufa is a plus. No team planning on making a playoff push is giving any kind of an asset at the deadline to rely on Dubnyk if their starter goes down and what team that will be on a run doesnt already have a better backup than him already. He likeley wasn’t going to re-sign hear anyways, a gamble on Hendricks is better than nothing.
    If Scrievens can come in and be a resonable backup a 3rd for him is a steal based on what the return for a 3rd has landed recently (Fistric,Smithson). If he’s an average starter its a steal. if he can be a solid #1 who can steal a few games its a cam neely/allan peterson sized fleecing.

  • Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)

    No goalie will be successful here until we seriously upgrade our D corp and our overall team D.

    Scrivens will play well for a few games based just on adrenaline then will tank like every other goalie who has passed through here over the past few years.

    But change is good.

  • Randaman

    Everyone needs to chill a bit. It was only Dubnyk and a 3rd for Scrivens and Hendricks. Sure he’s got a contract about 500k too high, but next year it’s too small to freak out about.

    And funny somehow the attitude towards Dubnyk on ON just took a 180. A few weeks ago he was dirt, and now Mac should have gotten way more? With who?

    The other GM’s don’t see our garbage as anything more than what it is. Who out there thinks that Gagner will get much more than Hendricks? I bet the other GM’s don’t. And what they think is what matters. Not what we think, not what Mac thinks, not what Gagner thinks. It’s what the other GM’s think.

    You know, the Oilers could use a guy like Hendricks, why don’t we see what he does?

  • D'oh-ilers

    Individually, neither move is thrilling, but once the other pieces start to fall into place, they should be valuable pieces to the puzzle. Hendricks contract is a bit rich, but he was heavily pursued by several teams in the offseason, so he obviously does something right.

  • Time Travelling Sean

    I think we’re overreacting, which is natural, who wants to focus on the stuff happening on the ice after all.

    If we totally got fleeced, we got fleeced a 3rd round pick because we probably could have got Scrivens for a 5th or 6th considering L.A’s goalie depth.

    If Hendricks is overpaid, he’s getting overpaid by the league minimum at best, and when the cap is 70M next year 1.85M isn’t going to break the back of the team, not to mention they can just dump him in the minors if he falls off a cliff.

  • gus1000

    I’m afraid the second coming of Terry Sawchuk, Patrick Roy, Martin Brodeur, insert name here is not going to help this defense core. Any goalie we put into this current group is set up for failure.

    If Scrivens doesn’t stand on his head,he gets bashed and trashed, leaves town since we are a career graveyard for goalies who stick around, and we lost a 3rd round pick.

    I agree Dubnyk had to go, but fire him to the minors, bring up Bachman, let his contract end,and call it a day, instead of bringing in a very expensive fourth liner. One who we get to pay for another 3 years. Unless they plan on using their last compliance buyout on him, which isn’t great either, it seems like a backwards move in the salary department. In a year or two we have potential to spend larger dollars on guys like Yakupov and Schultz, not to mention shoring up the defense and the bottom two lines. Dollars will be required before Hendricks contract end.

  • Phuryous George

    MacT does cover a lot of holes here. Don’t expect a lot from Hendricks, but 4th liner with size, a lefty in the circle to complement Gordon. And he’s experienced. The Oilers need more experience on the ice.

    But my excitement is for Scrivens. I think a very good team can win with competent goaltending. Scrivens doesn’t need to be a rockstar if the other pieces fall into place. But it’d be real nice if Scrivens continues to play like he did before he got hurt this year.

  • Zarny

    Well, these moves are more bold than I’ve come to expect in the past several years. I think we are marginally better now than we were this morning.

    I still wonder, however, about the impact that our goalie coach is having on our guys, and whether Chabot is the right guy to move these guys forward (or at least sustain what they bring when they get here.)

    Best of wishes to you, Devan! May you shutout the Canucks and Leafs every time, and may you always give up 8 against the Oilers!

  • Spydyr

    With a cap of $70 million and an owner willing to spend to it $1.8 million for an effective fourth liner is a non issue.

    When you’re 29th place you can’t “overvalue” your assets. If you did you’d never make a trade.

    I like Dubnyk. Feel bad for him. Outside of the first five games this year I really don’t know if he blew his chance or if the Defence is that bad. Who knows? Maybe even Henrik Lundqvist would be throwing his stick in the air playing behind this group.

    Don’t start trashing MacT because these moves aren’t “bold” let it go. Don’t forget the “bold moves” quote was only the third dumbest thing said at that press conference. MacT is trying. His lack of bold moves isn’t because he’s new or that he overvalues his players it’s because he’s the GM of a 29th place team in a league where only 16 trades have been made all year.

  • reaperfunkss

    It will be interesting to see the take on today’s moves by the Edmonton sports media. The guys who have been preaching patience all year. MacT has clearly stated he has no more patience for Dubby of Ladner.

  • **

    The oilers dont need offence. they are 17 in the league in scoring, but dead last by far in goals against. If this dude is good defensively, then it’s a good move. Scrivens is a definitive upgrade on Dubnyk.

    • Truth

      Scrivens numbers are good with the best goals against in the league, now he is with the worst goals against team. To say Scrivens is an upgrade is wrong. Dubnyk is a 1st round pick Scrivens undrafted.

      Oilers are dying for any news that does not deal with the standings. This trade is pointless.

      • **

        Yeah, Dubnyk was picked in the first round by the same crew that brought us Rob Schremp in that same round, so, yeah, there’s that. Oh, and the pick after Schremp? Cory SChneider.

  • S cottV

    It will be interesting to see Scrivens numbers with the Oilers as compared to the Kings.

    Going from maybe the best team to the worst team – at supporting their respective goaltenders.

    It will show….

  • emonkee

    People kept saying Dubynk for Hendricks is crap. I agree, but if we don’t trade Dubbie, even for a bag of pucks, the Scriven trade wouldn’t have happen.

    So let’s refer today’s transaction as Scriven + Hendricks for Dubbie + 3rd rather than 2 separate deals. No way MacT make one deal but not another. They go together.

    That being said, I am interested in seeing how Scrivens perform with our D since they are nowhere near as good as the Kings. Kinda disappointed in how Bryz played lately.

  • S cottV

    Hate to give up on Dubnyk, but while we are probably the worst team at supporting goaltenders – Dubie should have stopped a few more pucks.

    If Brys – bolts and Scrivens has a hard time playing goal with little to no support, I suppose we could always make a UFA offer to get Dubnyk back – at least as a backup.

    My prediction is that we are about to find out the Dubnyk wasn’t near as bad as a lot of people think. He will play well in Nashville and Scrivens will look very average in our system.

    Don’t mind this Hendricks guy. A veteran that looks to have good size and presence in the middle. Wins faceoffs, kills penalties, can fight. If he is good in his own zone, to help out our struggling d vs low threats – it’s a definate upgrade in 4C.

    If RNH puts on 15 lbs of muscle and MacT can hit a home run on a Benn-like 2C, we would be reasonably set in the middle – with Gordon and Hendricks rounding things out.

  • S cottV

    Hate to give up on Dubnyk, but while we are probably the worst team at supporting goaltenders – Dubie should have stopped a few more pucks.

    If Brys – bolts and Scrivens has a hard time playing goal with little to no support, I suppose we could always make a UFA offer to get Dubnyk back – at least as a backup.

    My prediction is that we are about to find out the Dubnyk wasn’t near as bad as a lot of people think. He will play well in Nashville and Scrivens will look very average in our system.

    Don’t mind this Hendricks guy. A veteran that looks to have good size and presence in the middle. Wins faceoffs, kills penalties, can fight. If he is good in his own zone, to help out our struggling d vs low threats – it’s a definate upgrade in 4C.

    If RNH puts on 15 lbs of muscle and MacT can hit a home run on a Benn-like 2C, we would be reasonably set in the middle – with Gordon and Hendricks rounding things out.

  • Truth

    Dubnyk nice guy terrible goalie. Scrivens had a real goaltending coach in LA Billy Ranford, solid pickup. Tell me how does Freddy Chabot still have a goalie coach job? Hey Roli you need a job? Call Craig

  • O.C.

    I realize hes a few years older now but if anyone is interested the 24/7 that had the Capitals/Penguins on it had alot of Hendricks in it. A lot of insite to what he brought to that team that doesnt show up in cult of hockey storys. Boudreau had alot to say about him, all good.

  • Spydyr

    Hendrik’s contract isn’t ideal but if he can anchor a solid fourth line and bring us some much needed grit then I’m not complaining. Dubnyk was done in Edmonton and keeping some of his salary doesn’t hurt since his contract is up at the end of the season anyways. Scriven is worth taking a shot at. Bryzgalov hasn’t exactly guaranteed a spot in Edmonton next season so hopefully Scrivens can come in and play well.

  • Zarny

    Relax everyone….Hendricks is the defensive forward the Oilers need to overpay for…

    Him and Boyd Gordon are re-united… we just need David Steckel and we got Washington’s old 4th line.

    Some of the comments on here are blasting this guy for his offensive stats… i don’t think he’s expected to put up numbers…

    He was a shutdown guy that won faceoffs and played gritty for Washington in 2011 and 2012.

    I think we will see an improvement on the PK and faceoffs with this guy.

    Mac-T will make another move (likely Hemsky at deadline) for a 3rd pick…Likely Nashville’s as they are still looking for offense.

    • Extraskater.com

      He’s not a shut down guy, The way the Oilers need him to be, he’s on the wrong side in most categories you want a shut down guy to be.

      Again, he takes as many faceoffs as Kanopka does, he’s primarily a winger, so don’t expect long term improvement.

      Tougher 4th line yes. Better, nope.

      • Randaman

        Did you ever think that maybe Nashville didn’t want to deal Kanopka? Easy to criticize from the couch though. I do it too. Give the man a chance at least

        • Ok, so this is where your credibility takes a bit of a hit, Kanopka was with the Wild & waived by them, which means had MacTavish picked up a phone he could have had the same player at less dollars and less term.

          The first team got him from the waiver wire which was Buff.

          Good.

  • Bucknuck

    For a third round pick I would go after Sean Burke or Nashville’s goaltending coach. We have had a number of promising goalies fizzle in town and it continues with DD. It was time for him to get a new team, but was he given proper coaching.

    I know not everything can be blamed on coaching, but it sure seems that Stu takes a beating for not drafting better. Maybe the problem isn’t the kid drafted at 18 its the man at 23 that the team develops.

  • O.C.

    Two groups of people.

    1) Those who are for/against the trades.

    2) Those who are happy/ticked about the management decisions leading up to the trade.

    Me…

    1) Ambivalent on trades. Some good with a potential downside. Change was needed but at what cost?

    2) This is the same management team that wanted to overpay for the same person they traded a 3rd rounder for.

    This is the same management team that wanted to overpay for Dany Heatley, Thomas Vanek, and David Clarkson.

    What is hard to grasp here?