DUBNYK TRADED TO PREDS… ACQUIRE SCRIVENS

The Oilers have traded Devan Dubnyk to the Nashville Predators for centre/winger Matt Hendricks.

Hendricks is in the first of a four-year deal that pays him $1.85 million.

Dubnyk will be a UFA at the end of the season.

Hendricks is a 4th line guy who kills penalties.

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He will be their 4th line centre, maybe winger, for the foreseeable future, so clearly the organization isn’t that high on Anton Lander. Lander needs to improve his footspeed. I know some won’t like Hendricks’ contract, and that is fair, but if the cap keeps going up it won’t look as bad as it does today. He doesn’t bring any offence, however, so in two years it could look really bad. A gamble for sure.

He plays the 2nd most PK minutes of any Nashville forward, so expect him to play a lot on the PK here. The Preds PK is currently 13th.

Thoughts?

According to Bob McKenzie the Oilers have acquired Edmonton native Ben Scrivens from LA for a 3rd round pick as well.

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So Hendricks and Scrivens for Dubnyk and a 3rd…

Thoughts?


  • Chris.

    Five hours ago the Oilers had one less bad contract, a high third round pick, and a different unproven UFA goaltender.

    This may be the most expensive audition ever… I sure hope Scrivens works out.

      • Chris.

        Poor pro scouting and cap management will apparently continue under the MacT regime. Matthew Barnaby said via twitter that MacTavish had offered Hendricks even MORE money last summer but Hendricks felt Nashville would be a better fit.

        The crew at Kingsway may actually consider the first move a hockey trade. *facepalm*

        • Spydyr

          So they tried to pay him more money and he still would not come here.

          Then they trade for him, that will make him want to come here.

          Don’t they think these things through?

      • 2004Z06

        So you are saying 3.5 mil/yr for a .894 sv% goalie is a good contract?

        They swapped bad contracts and are auditioning a high level goalie prospect for around 300k.

        • Truth

          My mortgage is payable at $10,000/yr with 15 years remaining until the house is paid off. Your mortgage is for $18,000/yr on it’s last year until the house is paid off

          If you pay half of your mortgage this year I will swap mortgage payments with you until our houses are paid off. Deal?

          • bleedingoil

            not a good comparison, really. I cant even begin to type out something reasonable for you here. one contract has 3 years remaining, and the other has 6 months. In 6 months, we lose the contract for NOTHING! Hendricks is a brick sh**house who has been in the playoffs in every year he is considered an NHL regular. His +/- has never been worse than -6 and is a penalty killer. He can play wing or center. In a world where the salary cap is going way up, we won the deal fair and square. No question about it.

        • Spydyr

          Not at all. I never liked Dubnyk liked that contract less.

          The thing is why pick up another bad contract .One for three more years.

          They could of waived him or traded him for a better contract.

          Don’t forget the Oilers are also paying half of Dubnyk’s contract.

          I’m looking at both deals as one deal as they had to move Dubnyk to pick up Scrivens .

          • This says to me the team REALLY wants a quality goalie and think that Scrivens might fit the bill. If they wait until the summer they’re on the same playing field as every other team who needs a #1. This way they get to test drive him for the last part of the season to see if he’s the real deal, and be at the front of the line to make an offer/have more time to make their case.

            Sure it’s a gamble but you can’t expect to change your situation doing the same things you’ve done in the past. Some might call this a gutsy move. Maybe even BOLD.

            If you ask me MacT really nutted up this time.

          • 2004Z06

            Bottom line is we can all be armchair GM’s, but we don’t have a clue what the market is out there right now or what offers were discussed/weighed.

            Yes the oilers are paying half of Dubnyk’s contract which I believe is around 650k. (I am sure Pkam will correct me….)

            All in all, if Hendricks helps and Scrivens plays well and re-signs, we will all look back at this day as a win.

            We can go back and forth all day debating the moves, but we just don’t know how it will pan out.

            For all we know these were precursors to other moves yet to come?

    • You’re absolutely right. People don’t realize that in a salary cap system players can have a negative value. Players who are overpaid compared to the skills they bring are negative assets, especially when they are aging. Guys like Redden when he was buried on the farm. Way too much money for his play. It doesn’t mean wasn’t an NHL player, but his insane contract gave him negative value and that’s how the team dealt with it.

      I’m not incredibly familiar with Hendricks, but at quick glance, it looks like he has this negative value. Dubnyk had no value because at the end of the season, the contract was done and the Oilers could walk away. Rather than letting him walk, they took on a negative asset.

      Acquiring these guys is like taking on debt and we all know the Oilers don’t need that.

  • Zarny

    If BS comes in and does not play well or is an improvement over Dubey …….I’m looking squarely at Eakins.

    If Hendricks is not an improvement over Lander……..I’m looking squarely at Eakins.

    We have been led down the garden path by Oilers Management as the players being the problem, ( OK I will buy some of that) but I suspect coaching has something to do with the current state of affairs.

    • Zarny

      Yeesh, we get it. You hate Eakins.

      No doubt if the guy running the hot dog stand accidentally tears the bun you’d blame that on Eakins too.

      Have you ever actually played hockey?

  • Bryzarro World

    Did some reading and took a second look at trade.

    It blowes!

    I thought MacT was a goof for taking back some of Dub’s salary but it really blowes now. An overpaid 4th line guy that is on the decline and wasn’t too hot to begin with and a bad contract. BOLD you goof. Should have played with a helmet.

    Go to Europe next year and find a mean mofo to plug that spot or even a homegrown plug but to pay almost 2 mil for this? JOKE

  • PimKing

    holy wow would you look at that?!? at the very least someone is trying to win, wish the group on the ice ( you specifically worst DEFENCEMEN ever) would try the same.

    i find myself watching most games saying to myself ” just play your own damn position” these dmen just go where ever the hell they want and then when they get scored on you can almost see it in their faces… o ya, riiiight F*ck meeee. and then they press repeat. in my day if my d partner was all over my side i would use my words and communicate to him to piss off and worry about your sh*t the rest will take care of itself.

    so, in conclusion, i like the trades, just hope a new dman is on the way as well, maybe one with 50..4..ok 300 games played.

    everyday im byfuglien….

    • bwar

      Right…Byfuglien makes perfect sense here. He’s horrible on D and comes in outa shape…it’s perfect for him here…since there’s no accountability. Same reason Hall has higher numbers…he can take all the risks he wants and not be held accountable.

      • 24% body fat

        Eakins wouldn’t want this trade unless he felt he could improve buffs fitness. He has been ok defensively before so if the deal happens than I have faith that they feel they can resurrect him.

        Probably have to overpay to get him. I would like wheeler and Ladd instead.

  • 24% body fat

    Proper asset management says you sign or trade hemsky before doing something with Gagner. Gagner can still be traded in the summer after free agency gets tight or at the draft. Hemsky is goners. So I think the next move is trading hemsky, and building up gagner as a wing so he can be traded, or slot into there permanently so Eberle or Yak can be moved for the Dman or number two center.

  • bwar

    Hendricks is a guy I thought the Oilers should have targeted in free agency and honestly I think Scrivens is the same calibre goalie as Dubnyk. Fair trades overall in my books.

    • reaperfunkss

      I dont think his stock was ever that high. the book on him for the last 5 or 6 years was that he didnt have the quickness or lateral movement to be a true number 1. Only this organization would see value where there is none.

  • Zarny

    It’s hard not to like this or any kind of movement considering the season the Oilers are having. With any luck they can either resign Bryz short term and have a decent 1 – 2 with the hope that Scrivens can be the number 1 guy. Or we can trade Bryz before the deadline for something.

    I would like to see Mac T finally make good on his bold move promise and make a hockey trade. One of the wonder kids for some serious D. Getting that number 1 or top 2 guy could completely alter the look of our D core and I think we have enough fire power up front still that with some better defence the Oilers could win some games.

    Now with both Gordon and Hendricks, our Pk and bottom 6 should be better defensively.

    Using one of Klefbomb, Nurse, or Marincin, I think Mac T could eventually get a big gritter winger that can play with skill, or maybe even an upgrade on our number 2 centre. That’s how I would go about improving the Oilers from here on out.

  • Spydyr

    Everyone wants that #1 D – Why cant we get it, why why why.
    F–k already i will tell you why, they dont grow on Trees, a #1 here
    is yeah, a 3-4 on other teams perhaps, do you think these types of players are not valued by their respective teams ? They are hard to come by and the asking prices people for a solid 1-2 defenceman for the Oilers
    will be high , so be prepared to give up Yak or a very good package of players. This type of trade is not easy. The last time a relevant D man was moved was probably when we got Pronger. Shoring up our D from outside the organization is not going to be cheap or easy. Be prepared to Pay
    and most likely overpay.

  • oildawg99

    I don’t really have a problem with any of the player personnel moves that Mac T has made to this point. He is actually doing a fine job thus far if you look at it with a clear head. Do I wish we could land a big #1 d-man, of course. However, I also understand those deals are nearly impossible to make.

    Personally I think the biggest mistake made by Mac T has been hiring Eakins and not giving Kruger a fair shot. Eakins so emotionless its not even funny yet that exactly what the team is lacking and frustrates me as a fan. Attitude reflects leadership and Eakins has yet to deliver. i sure hope he can.

  • 2004Z06

    Lander is what 22 and an RFA. Why does he need to be flushed? Everyone is always calling for the “Detroit model” let him keep rolling in the AHL where he is the Captain and is turning himself into a ppg player.

  • 2004Z06

    I hope that trade to move Dubie works out. My only reservation is another 3rd line player. I hope Mac realizes we need size in the top six too. Scrivens goaltending is not going to help the Oil weak defence.

  • Phuryous George

    Exciting stuff, but probably not the answer. It will be interesting to watch Dubnyk and Scrivens numbers, and see if Dubnyks goes up behind NSH d-corp, and Scrivens drop off with EDM’s d men playing above where they would on any other team.

    As for Hendricks, i’d rather over pay him than watch Lander play anymore NHL hockey here.

    MORE TRADES, MORE TRADES!!! WHEEE…..

  • Lowe But Now High Expectations

    The moves are okay. Dubnyk was never going to develop here, Scrivens has a clean slate to establish himself as a legitimate NHLer. Hendricks is a depth player who will PK. Adding a forward looks like insurance because all the Oilers will get is a draft pick for Hemsky.

    However, any hope for real improvement won’t happen until bold moves are made, but that won’t happen until the offseason.

  • bazmagoo

    Considering we’ll likely be saving money next season on Nick Schultz, Ales Hemsky, Dennis Grebeshkov, Ben Eager, amongst others I’d say the fact that Hendricks makes approx $350,000 more than he is worth won’t be much of an issue.

    • 24% body fat

      He makes $350k more than he’s worth – this year.

      Next year, because he’ll be older, slower, and Belanger, he’ll make $850k more than he’s worth.

      The year after that, when he’ll be older, Belanger, and Belanger, he’ll make $1,350k more than he’s worth.

      The final year of his contract in Edmonton, when he’s Belanger, Belanger, and Belanger, he’ll be earning $1,850k more than he’s worth.

  • Johnnydapunk

    I don’t think it is a huge gamble either, Scrivens is a UFA this summer, so the Oil are still in the market for a goaltender, I mean they left their options opens for goalies for next year as they have no one signed for next season, Brossoit, Bunz and Tuohimaa are the only goalies the Oil have on the books for next season and Bachman is an RFA so I guess they could feasibly resign him.

    Hopefully Scrivens does alright here and if he works out, we can try to resign him, if not there are a lot of goalies available this summer.

    At first I was cool with Bryzgalov, but he just doesn’t seem to be the answer, again it’s also a defence issue so until that gets sorted, goaltending is gonna struggle whoever you have back there.

    Either way, this trade seems pretty good and hopefully some more moves are coming.

  • Zarny

    Scrivens has a 0.931 save% in 19 games for the kings, and his career numbers are a cut above Dubbi’s. Also to this point he has been paid much less than Dubnyk.

    Add to that an unquestionable 4th line center and you have a pretty major club improvement in my view

    • reaperfunkss

      But you havent seen him play on this team so you may wanna reserve judgement. Using his numbers with the Kings may not be appropriate as the Kings not only know that defense needs to be played in the NHL they do it as well as any team in the last decade perhaps.

      Not saying they have been the best for the past decade just saying this year they are as good or better than most teams in that period of time

  • Zarny

    I have no problems with what MacT has done. There is no silver bullet. The Oilers aren’t 1 move away.

    Dubnyk had to be moved; the well has been poisoned. He’s been the heir apparent for years now and he failed. You can’t keep him as a back-up or a tandem because he’d always have that baggage of failure hanging around.

    And since Bryz isn’t playing well either MacT had to make a move. To make a move he had to move Dubnyk. Right now, with a 3.36 GAA and 0.894 SV% Dubnyk isn’t worth much. That’s reality.

    I’m not optimistic Scrivens is the answer long term but he can’t be worse. And even if Hendricks doesn’t work out no team has been in cap trouble because of a guy making $1.85M.

  • Randaman

    More size, grit, PK. What more did you expect after Dubnyk imploded this year?? I also think Scrivens will surprise all the negative Nellies here. Hope is all I have left and I am clinging to that.

  • pkam

    Ben Scrivens is a UFA at the end of the year, but it’s still worth the pick for me. I think the Oilers should be looking at a platoon situation next year. They can ill afford another collapse in the crease at the start of next year. So say the Oil sign one of Fasth, Elliot or Halak over the summer. Fasth has never been THE GUY in the NHL and Elliot and Halak have been inconsistent in the past, thus why St Louis has always kept them both.

    We can watch Scrivens the rest of the year and see if he is one of the two goalies we want next year.