TRADE DESTINATIONS…

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The NHL trade deadline is next Wednesday at 1 p.m. MST, and similar to seasons past the rumours are swirling. The biggest one involves Marty St.Louis asking for a trade because he didn’t crack Team Canada’s original roster.

This rumour is juicy for a few reasons. It involves the Lightning acquiring soon-to-be UFA Ryan Callahan, which seems odd considering St.Louis has a contract for next season, but also because it suggests St.Louis felt his own GM, Steve Yzerman, didn’t have his back during the selection process.

Yzerman wasn’t running a dictatorship. If the majority of the coaches and management didn’t want St.Louis on the team, Yzerman wasn’t going to pull rank and put his own player on. Unless St.Louis got some info suggesting Yzerman didn’t support him, St.Louis’ trade demand would seem more impulsive and reactionary than clearly thought out.

I read four different sources say they heard St.Louis did indeed ask for a trade, so yesterday I exchanged texts with a source in Tampa who said the same thing. However, he did add this via text, “I suspect Marty will have calmed down by now and that Stammer (Stamkos) could convince him to let it go. Marty is incredibly competitive and he took that snub very personal. He was mad, but I think it was more him being pissed off than really wanting out of Tampa.” My source also stated St.Louis is a very proud guy, so maybe he won’t retract his trade demand.

Can you recall the last time a team that high in the standings, had one of their best players ask for a trade leading up to the deadline? This is a rare situation.

I think we would all be surprised how often teams contemplate trading players and how often a player has demanded a trade when they were frustrated, only to calm down a few days later and remain on their current team.

Prior to winning multiple Stanley Cups in Detroit, Yzerman was almost traded to Ottawa. It was public knowledge that the Wings had serious discussions with the Senators, but they wisely elected to keep Yzerman. I think St.Louis and the Lightning can patch things up.

The other twist in this story is that St.Louis has a NMC, so he’d have to agree where he goes, which handcuffs Yzerman even more. The only way I see Yzerman trading St.Louis for Callahan is if the Rangers give him permission to talk about a contract extension first.

Yzerman can’t trade St.Louis for a pending UFA who could walk away in July.

If St.Louis is adamant he wants out of Tampa because he didn’t originally make the hardest team in the world, then I’d seriously question his perspective. He is good, but he isn’t that good. It is a joke that he wants out based on a decision that has nothing to do with his play on the team that pays him. Players have very little contact with their own GM. Players and general managers aren’t in constant or even frequent communications, so now he wants to be moved because of a Team Canada snub? Give me a break. I don’t like it, but I also think St.Louis is a good enough pro that if he doesn’t get dealt he will still play well.

MORE TRADE TALK…

  • Craig MacTavish was much more reserved when he discussed his trade strategy yesterday. I think he learned that putting all his cards on the table won’t increase the potential to make a deal. He wouldn’t talk about any individual player, instead choosing to go with, “we have some veterans UFAs.” We all know who they are, Hemsky, Smyth, N.Schultz, Jones, etc.

    He mentioned his goal was to try and acquire some picks to replace the 2nd and 3rd rounders that were used to acquire Perron and Scrivens. Again, this wasn’t earth shattering news because none of his veterans, other than Hemsky, will garner more than a mid-round pick in return. I think MacTavish will be working the phones feverishly to try and make moves, but his public approach to trades will be more reserved than it was last spring and summer.

  • Canucks GM Mike Gillis told TEAM 1040, “I like our team when we have a full and healthy group. We’d like to get
    a player to help Kesler, but you have to give up a lot.” There is a lot of pressure on Gillis to make the playoffs, but Kesler is hurt, and speculation is he might have a broken hand. Despite losing seven straight before the Olympic break, the Canucks are only one point out of the playoffs and 11 of their next 14 games are against teams currently not in the playoffs.

    The Canucks are in a tough spot. They don’t have enough scoring currently to compete in the west, but they aren’t bad enough to throw away the season. I would try to get Matt Moulson, and while some might say it is too much, I’d offer up Hunter Shinkaruk, 24th pick in the draft last year. Moulson is 30 years old and has at least three, likely four good season left, which fits perfectly with the Canucks window to compete.

  • I still believe the Oilers are better off to wait until the off-season to trade Sam Gagner. He has played better of late, and I think there will be more trade partners in the summer than there will be over the next seven days.
  • I’m not sure why people think Corey Potter has much trade value. He isn’t a regular D-man on the 29th place team, so why would a team add him as depth D-man? He has no playoff experience either. Teams value veterans with experience and that is why I can see N.Schultz being moved for a late pick, but I see no reason why a team would look at Potter. They’d likely much rather trade for Belov.
  • If you want a good laugh, read this. The Flames still haven’t ruled out the playoffs, but the best sentence is, “If the Flames do fall out of contention and become sellers on the market before the March 5 trade deadline…” News flash Calgary: you are already out of contention. The one thing we know in Edmonton is when a team is out of contention, and you have been out of the race since December 1st. The Flames were 13 points out of 8th then, and they are still 13 points out. If you need any more help in how the draft lottery works, just ask us — we are all experts in how it works.
  • No movement clauses only benefit the player. If a player asks for a trade his NMC should become invalid, or at the very least they should have to submit a list of 10 teams they don’t want to go to. At least that way the team has an opportunity to find a fair trade.

    It is a joke that players can demand a trade and then dictate where they go. One of the few excellent moves the Oilers have done is not hand out NMC like candy on Halloween. Ference is the only player with one, and I don’t see any others who will command one by the time his expires.

  • Ryan Miller is so determined to get traded he picked up two assists as well as a win last night. Sabres’ GM Tim Murray said yesterday, “Our priority right now on both sides is to pursue a proper trade,” so he is on the market. Who would want Miller?

    St.Louis, Minnesota and Washington seem like the obvious destinations. Neuvirth has already asked for a trade, so it would be easy to include him in a package along with some picks or a prospect like Andre Burakovsky (Caps would be hesitant to move him) or a young D-man like Connor Carrick.

    The Blues have been rumoured to have interest in Miller for months, but I think they’d look at Steve Ott before Miller, because the asking price will be lower. Minnesota is in a tough spot due to the health issues of Josh Harding, who was playing great until his MS acted up again. They also gave up a lot lats year for Jason Pominville, so I’m not sure if they would be willing to part with three more pieces for a pending UFA.

    A complete wildcard might be San Jose. Niemi has been okay, but his career SV% is only .909 in the playoff.

    The next week will be extremely entertaining if you are fan of trade talk.

RECENTLY BY JASON GREGOR

  • I hate the Flames and hate Burke even more but at least they dont come out in the media and openly say, “we’re out of the playoffs”, with 3 months remaining. Sending that “loser mentality” type message to the fans, the organization and above all the players is pure BS.

    Im sick of hearing it.

  • The Real Scuba Steve

    My source tells me that Kelsey May or May not of asked for a trade but it will change the whole landscape of trade deadline.

    I could totally do this for a living

  • @TSNBobMcKenzie: Whether Kesler requested traded, and I can neither confirm nor reject the report, teams have been calling VAN on him. Canucks are listening.

    This is what I hate. Absolutely nothing is said here. But everyone think he is the king.
    “Insiders” everywhere

  • O.C.

    Losing Hemsky is like losing one of the top draft picks. Sounds silly, but hear me out.

    IF the Oil had chosen any one of the other top prospects in the NHL Entry Draft of 2012, notably D men or Centres, they would have filled a need and could extend Hemsky last year. Sorry guys, Yak was the Cool choice, but not the need. Should have traded down to spot 5 or taken Murray.

    Now, you lose Hemsky for a late 2 or 3rd rounder.

    Rumour is that decision to choose Yak didn’t fall on Tambellini”s shoulders. He was over ruled.

  • Rdubb

    Gregor, I MUST AGREE with you 100% when you say that a player with a NMC asks for a deal that it should become null and void. There is a reason why the team gave him the NMC in the first place, they didn’t want to move him…
    There should be some sort of clause put in all NMC’s, that once the player asks to be moved, the GM can trade him to whomever/whenever he fells like it? Maybe, like you said, the player can summit a list of 5 teams when the deal is signed, and as soon as he asks for a trade, his GM can then start looking @ trading him to one of another 24 teams, @ any time! Within a week, a month, or perhaps 4 or 5 months, & the NMC is thus null & void for the remainder of his deal, even when dealt…
    Just my thoughts on that…
    Also, if St.Louis did ask for trade, than I think he is nothing more than a spoiled brat, plain and simple…because he didn’t make the best team in the world, which had zero to do with his NHL club, he stomps up to Stevie Y’s office and throws a temper tantrum.
    The ENTIRE brass had a say, and if they wanted guys with size and skill, than St.Louis would have never fit into their plans.
    Is he that egotistical? I think that Neal should have made the team way before St.Louis..Yzerman tried not to have politics come into play, but by St.Louis’ reaction, I guess they did. Just like minor hockey, a lot has to do with who you know…
    If the story is true, I have lost all respect for St.Louis, & I had a ton for him prior to this…

  • Rob...

    Certain sites are great for the blogs and others for the comments. Rare sites are great for both. This site used to be one of those rare ones, but lately the comments sections are full of petty crap, and reason has been totally discarded. I think this is driven by two things. 1) Yet another crappy season that angered people to the point they spend more time lashing out than talking hockey, diluting and nearly eliminating good posts. 2) The stupid props/trash system that provides a second level of anonymity over and above the fact that you already choose your own alias.

    It used to be that if you disagreed with someone, you either sat on your hands or got up the gumption to respond in a post, countering the points you disagree with. This really was incentive for people with a fresh take on things to chime in. Now, it’s too easy to just be a gutless coward and hit a button, staying safe from criticism or rebuttal.

    • Rob...

      My thoughts exactly, you see someone has made some valid points and next time you scroll by it there are 20 trashes, make it like Facebook if you are going to trash the poster can see who has done it.

  • Rdubb

    Gregor its a good thing you didnt make it to the NHL. You would be taking minor penalites after every whistle. BUT HE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT MY MOMMA!!! Thin skin

    • pkam

      Oh look another mindless, immature post from a no-name. Thanks for proving my point. I dare you to add something worthwhile. No chance you can, because you don’t have anything intelligent to say, so you resort to calling out the writers and posters. Sad and pathetic.

  • A-Mc

    Oilers Nation fans are getting baaaaaaddddd. It doesnt matter what the subject matter is of the original post, people degenerate into some kind of trailer trash type argument every time.

    KEEP YOUR HEAD UP Edmonton! jeezz… Dont lose focus now =) Oilers 2017 Stanley Cup Champions