THE ROUNDUP

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After weeks of madness with the draft and free agency, we take a look at what teams did and more

In the roundup we go around the Nation Network and give you some of the best articles of the last couple weeks. Every once in a while it’s good to know what other teams are doing, or maybe you find an interesting article you would have never found otherwise.

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    • Rockmorton65

      Not a lot of hurt, actually. Don’t go by the Lambert article. He’s a “Flames fan” whose articles are intentionally negative. Imagine a Flames fan writing a article on the Oilers with the intention of pissing off their fans.

      It may not show in the standings, but the Flames are poised to take a big step next year as an organization.

    • The consolation for me personally is that our hurt doesn’t come from failure. Our hurt comes from natural growing pains from rebuilding a team properly. Your hurt on the other hand… well let’s just say I’m glad I’m not an Oilers fan.

    • MonsterPod

      If Flames Nation is the fans, then I’m confused.

      Last I checked the Saddledome gave a standing ovation to their team after a 6-5 loss to Nashville at the end of the season. I was there. It was a collective appreciation for guts and heart and fight.

      How many times did the Oilers get booed by their faithful last year? How many jerseys were tossed on the ice in disgust? None in our barn.

      Seems to me that Flames fans are excited and optimistic. Probably because we don’t have Lanny as President, Joel Otto as GM, and Roberts and Fleury as assistant coaches.

      • headmetal

        there have been some tossed jerseys in both barns:

        that vid was from April 2012. I am disgusted by anyone who thinks this is ok or thinks this represents the players/fans of either organization as a whole.

        • Parallex

          Disgusted? Really?

          Fans paying hundreds for a seat or thousands for season tickets, watching a terrible product on the ice season after season, who are not allowed to demonstrate their discontent in different ways (can’t bring a sign, for example), can’t even throw a jersey they bought from a seat they paid for when frustrated?

          Get real, man. It’s just an overpriced piece of cloth sold to you by a team that sees you as a walking, talking pinata full of money (who conveniently does their advertising for them).

  • TheoForever

    Lambert knows nothing about Flames and hockey in general. Having his subpar articles linked with Flames name, makes one want to puke. I don’t know how the fans of other teams feel about his writing style, but around the Flames camp there is nobody more hated.

  • Lowe But Now High Expectations

    This season will truly show who the brilliant GM’s are and also which ones did nothing more than shuffle deck chairs on the Titanic.

  • piscera.infada

    Yah? You’re going to post “5 things” articles as Flames news? Really?

    Lambert is the biggest (read: only) hack that writes for Flames Nation. He’s horrible. It is in no way a representation of the mindset of Flames fans. Sure, our team’s going to be bad, and Engelland was a horrific signing, but there are legitimate reasons for (tempered) optimism.

    • TheoForever

      Must be summer, Oiler fans are climbing back on the wagon, broken legs and all.

      Until, proven otherwise you and your 67 points still rule in the suck department.

    • Rockmorton65

      Well, they finished higher in the standings, so while the Flames are not very good, the Oilers have the “suck” title. And given the Flames were supposed to be bad while the Oilers were, according to their fan base, supposed to be competing for the cup. The Oilers seem to suck harder still. And the cherry on the “suck ” sundae is that the Oilers will be ruining yet another 18 year old potential superstar in Draisaitl because they can’t sign more than 1 NHL quality center for their team. So, it is the Oilers who have the title of -to paraphrase the immortal Homer Simpson – “the Oilers are the suckiest bunch of sucks who ever sucked.

      • dingo

        It.s not just that they are the suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked, so much as they don’t seem to mind being the suckiest sucks who ever sucked. Quite frankly that’s disturbing.

  • Parallex

    Man, the Nation Network is going to be in for some gloomy days this upcoming season. Canucks, Oilers, Flames, Jets, Leafs… Bad, Bad, Bad, Bad, and Bad.

  • Quicksilver ballet

    It’s odd to see Brian Burke doing so little to help his hockey club.

    Teams are already lining up hoping to increase their chances of landing Connor McDavid. To help increase their chances, they should keep Bennett and let him get that first season under his belt.

    • You’re 100% right but the argument is about potential. It’s about which team has a better future. I still say the Flames any day of the week, even compared to all Canadian teams, not just the Oilers.

      • MonsterPod

        I’m an oilers fan and I would agree with that. I do like how the flames are building their prospect pool. However, I do think this “re -build” for the flames will take longer then many expect. IMO, it’ll be at least 5 years until they are competitive again.

        • Parallex

          I think that depends on what you consider “competative”.

          If you mean in a position to potentially make the playoffs then five years seems a little long… I’m thinking more in the vacinity of three (bottom-out this year, take a step forward next year but still likely finish bottom ten (but not bottom five), then in year three at least challange for a playoff spot.

          The Flames are basically at the cap floor now and will probably still be at the floor for a couple more seasons but the ownership has proven it is more then willing to spend to the ceiling in the past. Some soak time for top prospects and a lot of potential cap room seems like a reasonable recipe for rapid improvement when the time is right.

    • Rockmorton65

      I don’t know, I kind of like the fact that the Flames and Oilers fans’ can get into this in the middle of July. Nice to see the battle is alive and well.

    • Matty Franchise Jr

      You’re not from here, are you?

      This is what we do. It’s who we are. It’s what unites us. Although we are in no way united.

      Oilers suck.

      • vetinari

        Both props and trash… I agree with your point but it came from a Flames’ fan… so… y’know… I had to do it on principal just to live with myself.

  • MonsterPod

    I’m a Calgary Flames fan, but above that I am a hockey fan. So while I do enjoy and sometimes partake in the Battle of Alberta (67 points LOL), I do find it quite hard to bring myself to actually hate another team, yes, even the Edmonton Oilers, or any team from Florida. While in one degree I could argue that it would be great to see my team do far better than its rival, I think it would be more satisfying if both Albertan teams were dominant and on top of the NHL. The best hockey players come from Canada. I see hope for both these franchises in the near future, and wish luck to the cities of Vancouver, Winnipeg, Ottawa, and Toronto, as dark days are upon you.

  • Parallex

    Show me the Money is very apropos for the Flames, according to Capgeek the Flames are now the lowest spending team at #30. How any Oiler fan can talk trash is beyond me. You guys have Hall, Nugent-Hopkins, Eberle, Yakupov, and Schultz. You added Gordon and Ference and guess what? You still finished BEHIND the Flames in the standings. The whole season was a mess in Shelbyville. Nail was a baby so he had his agent Igor fly from Russia to fight with management. You went through six goalies or maybe more, your owner Darryl Katz issued a public apology letter.

  • Zarny

    @Rockmorton65

    Ruin another 18 y/o C; you mean like the Flames ruined Monahan last year?

    The Flames have one advantage right now…Giordano. You can’t overstate the impact of a legit top pairing Dman on a young team that is absolute garbage.

    Otherwise, in terms of core players to build around the Flames have Monahan, Bennett and that’s about it.

    I know, I know…there is also Mikael Backlund who was drafted 8 years ago and has 1 season over 30 pt and whose career year amounts to the worst season ever for Sam Gagner.

    If Giordano ever gets hurt Calgary won’t win 10 games.

    • Zarny

      I find it confusing that at oilersnation your comments are (generally) smart and thought out. Yet here you decide to generalize, or perhaps are actually that ill informed and make such claims.

      Giordano was hurt (Oct.21-Dec.3), last year he broke his foot. Mind you Calgary went 4-8-2 in that month, but I think it would be safe to assume if they can win 4 in a month, they could maybe break 10 all season 😉

      Furthermore, as an Oilers fan I assume you follow/read/have heard of mc79hockey. Well here are some tweets.

      “CGY with all of Gio/Backlund/Brodie on ice: 316 SAF 180 SAA, 63.7%. Otherwise: 3010 SAF 3675 SAA, 45%.”

      “Calgary with none of Gio/Backlund/Brodie on ice: 42% Corsi
      With 1: 45.2%
      With 2: 51.4%
      With 3: 63.7%”

      “Someone asked for a comparator: LA with Kopitar/Doughty/Muzzin: 343 SAF 241 SAA 58.7% Corsi. So five points worse than Gio/Brodie/Backlund.”

      so what does that all mean?

      “Not sure I agree with [the idea that Calgary has initiated a successful rebuild]. I think Calgary’s kind of lucked into something.”

      So in closing, does our team suck? Yes, we suck a lot. Especially with the current NHL roster we are icing. Does Giordano contribute largely to the said “success” of Calgary last season? Definitely. Is Mikeal Backlund worse than Sam Gagner? I don’t know but possession wise, no. Points-wise, sure. But based off points, wouldn’t you have kept Gagner? Are Calgary’s only core players to build around Monahan and Bennett? No. For the purposes of this argument I can at least say that Backlund and Brodie (ages 25 and 24, respectively) are two productive players that positively contribute to this roster. Gaudreau, Sven, Porier, Wotherspoon, etc, haven’t played enough (or at all) at the NHL level to be deemed core pieces to the rebuild sure. But I would hazard a guess to say a few of them pan out to be serviceable and contributing NHLers.

      tldr: Calgary sucks, but your comments suck more. Sorry for the long post.

    • redhot1

      Oh, you mean the Mikael Backlund who played big minutes against top quality competition? And had very good possession stats while doing so? (Far better then RNH, despite the same QoC, I may add)

      I’d much rather have a player that you can have confidence lining up against 1st liners, instead of Sam Gagner (who yes, put up some good numbers) who is softer then a pillow, and garbage in his own zone.

      So what if Backlund was drafted 8 years ago? He’s only 25. And, Ill add, since he doesn’t put up spectacular numbers, he can be signed relatively cheaply.

      Worst (/Best) case scenario, he is a good third line shutdown centre behind Bennett and Monahan.

      Backlund is a dependable, cheap, decent sized centre, who has potential to be better offensively (His best season was last season).

      Oilers would be lucky to have Backlund right now.

  • ubermiguel

    Everyone go read that Steve Dangle article and comment; it’s a good read and the other Nations need more comments. Maybe I’m just used to Oilers Nation where an article in the summer about a 4th line winger gets 100 comments.

      • redhot1

        Are you suggesting the Calgary logo is finer than the Oil Drop.?

        Also what in the world has Flames got to do with Calgary anyway? Should have changed the name when the team moved from Atlanta!

        PS: Why did they add the “yellow streak” to the color scheme, recently?

        • redhot1

          Are you suggesting the Calgary logo is finer than the Oil Drop.?

          No. I’m stating it outright. The “Oil Drop” blows.

          Also what in the world has Flames got to do with Calgary anyway? Should have changed the name when the team moved from Atlanta!

          What do Kings have to do with Los Angeles? What do Penguins have to do with Pittsburgh? Irrelevant. What should they have called the team? The Cowboys? The Corporate Head Offices? Being that narrow-minded is a sure way to a lame nickname.

          Regardless, sort of a past-tense association, but they used to light the torch at the top of the Calgary Tower for playoff games (I believe it was originally lit for the ’88 Olympics).

          So there you go. Calgary’s “Flames”

  • dingo

    I like what Calgary has done the last two years. Getting rid of Feaster was a great move, he is one of the worst GM’s in the league. Edmonton finally drafter a guy they should have for the first time in 3 years and Vancouver cut their losses with the sinking management and coaching not to mention dealing Kesler immediately.

    Hard to say yet who the big winners were although it would be tough to bet against Dallas right now with Spezza finally being in a position not to be the sole pivot to create meaningful offense, so long as he and Hemsky are not complete liabilities defensively I like their chances of major improvement.

    Some will say Anaheim and I say maybe but getting a potential dressing room cancer in an injury prone Kesler COULD backfire on them not to mention he and a couple rookies need to replace the effect of Bonino, Selanne and Koivu. I sure like Gibson though.

  • BobbyCanuck

    Rockmorton, we take great offense to your comment

    “And given the Flames were supposed to be bad while the Oilers were, according to their fan base, supposed to be competing for the cup”

    Get your facts right before coming on our all knowledgable and omipresent board.

    We were and are not ‘supposed to be competing for the cup. If it wasn’t for Dubnyk we would aleady have won three cups in a row, because well we got three number one picks in row.

    So f off you a hole

    btw, there is nothing more we like then 200 posts discussing and thrashing each other about which 4th liner is going to get us over the top. Or better yet, which scud we can jettison that will provide us with (insert name of actual NHL player)

    I am in pain and I am suffering, and I am lashing out. I see no hope, even though we have signed some actual NHL’ers. It is not like all the other Western teams are resting on thier laurels.

    please read this with tongue in cheek, that is the intent.

  • hankthetank

    This is all just getting really flame.

    The mighty Oil will hoist the sacred chalice of Lord Stanley, whilst the simpletons to the south gnash their teeth and beat themselves in dismay all the while shaking their gnarled, leprous fists in the air shouting, “But we had truculence! Truculence I say!”

    • RedMan

      that you still have the strength, let alone the desire, to write this after all these years of being the worst in the NHL is commendable. Hang it there, it should get better, no, it almost has to get better, as it can’t possibly get worse.

      My bold prediction – Oilers move up to 25th in the league this year! Yay, progress!

  • BobbyCanuck

    Time for everyone to go back to their own websites. Time for the writers to create a story on their own teams. Have a good summer all the fans of the different teams on the Nation, rest up we have a long season of bashing each other and unfortunately our own teams.

  • RedMan

    What is missing is an article written about the Winnipeg Jets. How long can you be in the league without making any moves and still be called a GM? Roster lock at the bottom end of the roster is foolish…that is where young players can get onto the team. Signing Stewart and Thorburn long term makes no sense.