ANOTHER NUGE?

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For several months now, a conversation involving Sam Reinhart often ends up with the young man being compared to Ryan Nugent-Hopkins. Is that accurate?

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Sam Reinhart’s scouting report does in fact include a lot of things we read about the Nuge. Cerebral, creative, sublime passer. One area that Reinhart gets nicked is skating, although RNH also got that criticism from some early on.

If they are similar players, they should have similar numbers, right?

BOXCARS

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They’re actually a really nice match by the boxcars — this could be two seasons by the same player. They’re a match.

SCORING BY DISCIPLINE: EVENS

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HUGE difference at even strength for each player. We know from the earlier look at Reinhart, Bennett and Draisaitl there’s not that big a gap between those three players, so the Nuge number appears to be the curio. In the NHL so far, Nuge has scored 59% of his NHL points at evens (Taylor Hall 71% by comparison), but in RNH’s final junior season it represented only 44%. 

Reinhart scored 60% of his points this season at even strength.

SCORING BY DISCIPLINE: POWER PLAY

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56% of the Nuge’s points in his draft year came on the power play, compared to Reinhart’s 38%. That’s a significant difference. Nuge’s Red Deer team scored 80PP goals, 7 shorthanded goals and 181 at even strength. Reinhart’s team scored 62PP goals, 5 shorthanded goals and 168 at even strength. 

RNH was part of 74% of the Rebels PP scoring, 64.5%, so much of the difference appears to have come in team success. All of this is interesting, but without TOI totals I’m not sure how much we can say with authority. It does seem clear based on the splits that the Nuge is a more effective power-play center and Reinhart scored more at even strength. It COULD imply that Reinhart is in fact a better offensive player. I’m not certain we can state that as a fact.

SIZE

They’re pretty much the same, their WHL pages say they were both 6.0, and Nuge’s 173 pounds trails Reinhart by 10 pounds. I’m not sure if these are absolutely accurate but it’s worth noting.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

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Reading the situation incorrectly can make a man look like an idiot. We don’t know the TOI for either player—at even strength or on the power play—and the differences in their scoring totals may not reflect actual ability. I do recall the Rebels rolling four lines at evens during Nuge’s final season in Red Deer. That could explain what we’re looking at here.

Having said that, it’s a very curious item. It makes sense that you’d like an even-strength scorer over a power-play specialist, and that would favor Reinhart in this case.

Sam Reinhart is an interesting prospect. 

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  • Czar

    Reinhart is not undersized.

    He is 6-1 and 183 lbs at 18 which is about the same as Hall was in draft year.
    The Nuge was at least 10 lbs lighter and with a slimmer build.

    Reinhart has put up monster playoff numbers against a very good team.He also was relied on at WJC which the Nuge did not make.

    Unfortunately he will most likely be gone before the oilers pick.

  • HardBoiledOil 1.0

    @Manfly

    Really? You want to wait and hope that he gets bigger? When will that be, can you tell us? We said these things about Eberle, we said these things about RNH, we’re even still staying these things about Taylor Hall and while he’s slowly been filling out how many years has it been now?

    How many more years do you want to wait for Bennett and Reinhart to fill out and compete in a conference like ours filled to the brim with big, fast, and skilled teams that have their way with us? You got four more years of sucking in you? Five?

  • Harry2

    Just what we DON’T need – another undersized “goal scoring” forward. We have had (and still have) our share of them, and look where they’ve gotten us. A MAN, not a kid, a MAN, a D MAN, with size, experience and a proven track record. THAT’S what we need. I have to shake my head at some of the articles on this site – are you all obtuse or are there some of you out there that agree with me? We need the 3 esses. SKILL, SIZE and SPEED. PLEASE.

    • HardBoiledOil 1.0

      and @Naky….do you think Reinhart has finished growing at 17? if you do, then give your head a shake! i went from 6 feet and 165 at 17 to 6′ 2″ and 195 by the time i was 22! Reinhart like most his age have not stopped growing yet and, if Ekblad was gone and we had a chance to get Reinhart and passed, and he grew into a 6’2″ or 6’3″ 200 pound center, which we need by the way, right? then every Oiler hockey board would be constantly whining that we DIDN’T take him!

  • Matheson has been talking Ekblad or Draisaitl for a while, but I don’t think there’s any way you can argue Draisaitl is better than Reinhart. If Ekblad is gone and Reinhart is there, you have to take Reinhart.

    • Harry2

      If so then who gets traded for some top 6 size? Cause they damn well are going to need it desperately.

      Also no matter who they pick they absolutely have to keep them in junior abother year

  • HardBoiledOil 1.0

    i’m still OK with us picking Reinhart. and i don’t care if he’s “only” 6′ 1″ 185, he’ll likely get a bit bigger before he stops growing. he’s a great talent and will likely be a great 1-2 with Nuge.

  • Sam Reinhart is not just an interesting prospect , he is much more ! I’ve been raving about Sam for the past 3 years ! This guy is a Talent ! Very Creative and A Goal Scorer !
    I Don’t Think Edmonton will take him , but I’d shure be happy if they did .

  • Randaman

    Yeah, sure, why not. Let’s stay small. It’s been working so well for us these past few years, we may as well keep doing it.

    Excuse me, Mr. Einstein, what was the definition of insanity again?

  • I can understand people excitement for Ekblad but Reinhart is the guy to take if he is available. Top end centers are so hard to acquire. Better to draft centers and find other means to fill the gaps on the blue line.