Part two, if you will, with Taylor Hall

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I interviewed Taylor Hall for a feature piece that ran in the Edmonton Journal yesterday. I wasn’t able to include all of his thoughts in one article. I had to leave out some good comments, but I wanted to share the remainder of our conversation.

Today, Hall shares some more insight into Todd McLellan as a coach, but I also learned more about Hall as a person, not just the player.

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The one constant during our conversation was Hall’s excitement and energy burst through the phone. He sounded completely different than the young man who spoke
to the media at the conclusion of the Oilers season. Confidence and the mental
side of the game are often undervalued. Even the best players in the world
lose their confidence. Steven Stamkos, one of the best goal scorers in the
game, had no goals in the first eight playoff games. He was struggling, but
after scoring vs. Montreal
in game two he has seven goals in his past eleven games and once again looks like an elite scorer.

Five years of losing will eat away at you,
but one small stint of success can erase those memories quickly. That seems to be the case with Hall. He rediscovered the fun of hockey while playing in Prague.

What did Hall learn playing for Canada
that he hopes to bring to training camp next year?

“Just that it was a collective effort. I
think Todd [McLellan] did a really good job of making sure everyone not only
had a role, but knew what it was and knew how to excel in it. There were guys
that were not playing as much as they were used to on their club teams, but
everyone felt important in their role and everyone felt like what they were
bringing to the team was something that was important. I think you’ve got to
bring guys into the fire, make sure you make guys feel important and I think
that everyone really did feel like that in Prague,” said Hall.

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In yesterday’s article, Hall mentioned how prepared McLellan was as a coach and that was a theme throughout our 25-minute conversation.

One of the best compliments a coach can
receive from a player is that he is prepared. NHL players are robotic by
nature. They like routine. They are conditioned to absorb the information they
receive from the coach and then put it to use on the ice. If players don’t feel
prepared prior to a game, they rarely play up to their full potential because
they are thinking more than reacting.

McLellan’s preparedness wasn’t the only
trait that grabbed Hall’s attention.

Hall has only been in the NHL for five
seasons, but he’s a wily veteran when it comes to learning how to play for a
different coach. McLellan will be his fifth head coach, but Hall won’t need
significant time in training camp or the preseason to understand how his new
coach thinks. He knows what to expect, and I asked Hall what aspect of
McLellan’s coaching strategy impressed him the most.

“I’d say the amount of attention that was
put into being above the puck and being in front of the puck in the offensive
zone. As soon as the puck was turned over, or we didn’t have a hundred percent
possession, we were told to get above the puck and get inside position on their
guys so we can outnumber them in any situation. If they turned the puck over
then we’re in the spot to produce offense immediately. He was strict about
playing that way, but he also explained it in a way that was easy to understand
and implement on the ice,” answered Hall.

Again, Hall’s excitement about his new coach seemed to match his renewed excitement about the game. Five years of losing, and losing horribly, will break down the will of any athlete. Winning a gold medal and being a main contributor to the championship was a huge boost for Hall’s psyche.

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Hall the person…

During the past five seasons, I’ve noted how the frustration of losing caused some fans to attack the personalities of players, not just their play on the ice. I’ve felt one of the biggest mistakes we make when watching pro sports is forgetting the athletes are human. They are great athletes, but that doesn’t mean they are immune to the same struggles of every day people.

People judge athletes and think they know them because they watch them on TV or follow them on social media. That isn’t the case. I’ve covered teams for 14 years and I’d say I truly know maybe 5-10 players in a way where I really got a sense of who they are as a person, not just a player.

Hall arrived in Edmonton a young, excited and confident 18
year old. He was supposed to be the saviour of the franchise; the first ever #1
overall pick. Some expected him to carry the Oilers back to the playoffs, and
when winning didn’t occur, the pressure mounted and at times Hall admits it was
hard to deal with.

“I think as you get older you start to kind
of fit into your personality and you start being the person that you’re going
to be for the rest of your life. I think that that is happening with me. I’ve
played five years in the NHL, but I’m only at the age where most people are
just graduating from university. I’m still learning about myself. All of the
losses that we’ve had in the last five were frustrating. Maybe other guys would
have lashed out in the same way that I did a couple of times, maybe they
wouldn’t, but that’s the way that it goes. I’m starting to learn that sometimes
you just have to relax and let things happen as they do. A good example for me
has been the last month for our team. Things are going to work out and I see
that now,” said Hall.

Patience rarely comes easy to anyone, but
when you are young and the face of the franchise in a hockey-crazed market it
can be even harder to obtain. Hall has worked on finding the right balance of
passion and patience.

“I try to play with a lot of passion. I
think it is important to play with emotion, but you want to make sure you’re
not going over the line. I think that’s what I’ve gotten better at. Certainly
in public I’m a lot more shy than people think, especially when people come up
to me that I don’t know. I’m not the type of person that’s going to have a
twenty minute convo. That isn’t an easy thing for me, but as I get older I find
I’m getting better at those types of things.

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“I’ve heard people say they think I’m
arrogant or a snob and that used to bother me, because I’m not that person. I’m
reserved around people I don’t know; even when I went to the Worlds the first
time I was shy. I’ve gotten better at letting my guard down, but I’ve also
learned you have to be true to who you are and not worry what strangers say
about you,” said Hall.

When Hall was injured last year we watched one game on TV together. I wanted to ask him about what he saw, and more so what I didn’t catch during the play. It was a valuable learning experience for me, but during intermissions and after the game we talked about non-hockey things. I left that evening knowing more about who Hall was as a young man. He is naturally shy, closer to an introvert than an extrovert, and because of how demonstrative he is on the ice, I think some people expect he will be the same way off the ice. He isn’t.

The harsh reality of playing in a hockey
market is players have to mature in the public eye. Young NHL players are
expected to make the right decision on and off the ice all of the time, and
frankly that isn’t realistic, especially when you are 18-21 years of age. Hall
and his other young teammates have had to mature in losing environment. It
wasn’t easy, but with all the changes during the past six weeks the fanbase, the players and the entire organization are hopeful the worst is behind them.

Hall, like every fan, was excited about the arrival of McDavid. “We played against Jack Eichel, and he was impressive. Everyone seems to think Connor is even better, and that is exciting. I’m looking forward to meeting him and playing with him, and helping him out off the ice if he needs it. I’ve learned a lot about myself the past five years and how to deal with adversity, and hopefully he won’t have to experience as much losing as we did in my first few seasons,” joked Hall.

The major advantage McDavid will have upon his arrival in Edmonton, is he’ll be able to play with Hall. A top-end offensive player with five years of NHL experience, but also a player who has the understanding of what it feels like to be looked upon as the saviour for an organization.

McDavid will learn from Hall and Hall will study some things from young McDavid. Both will be extremely excited when they arrive for training camp.

McDavid is going to be stoked playing in the NHL. Hall will be energized by the thoughts of being on a competitive team again, and filled with the belief he is more prepared to help lead the team on and off the ice.

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  • Gordie Wayne

    Great insight Jason. I wish some of the hockey fans here would stop their bashing and whipping boy mentality on certain players. Hall is human and cares…would rather have a player like this than one who is going through the motions.

  • It’s always interesting to me to hear players comments that aren’t chalked full of tired clichés.

    I like the maturity that Hall is showing. He’s had a hard ride from some the fan base in Oil Country. I hope he is able to take McDavid under his wing and help him deal with the pressure of it all. Unfortunately, for himself, Hall didn’t really have that guidance from anyone. Sure, there were veteran players like Horcoff that could explain to him what NHL life was going to be like, but Horcoff and the other vets didn’t have the pressure of having been picked first overall in their draft years.

    Hall is starting to sound like the leader we all wanted him to be. I like what the experience at the World Championships has done for his attitude.

    I would be interested to hear how Eberle feels about these same questions. Another interview from Gregor would be great.

    Is it October yet?

    • BobbyCanuck

      Not really, the last 5 years drove Ebs and Hall to drink and chase puck bunnies on a nightly basis. Hopefully they have out-grown the bar life, or will not feel the need to drown thier sorrows on a nightly basis.

      I have not seen a smiling Taylor in a long time…looks good on you Taylor, hoping you will have plenty of reasons to smile this coming season

  • ATL Oiler

    Jason:
    Fantastic interview with Taylor Hall. What an impressive young man. You’re one of the few interviewers that is able to get this kind of insight from those you interview. Kudos man! Very excited to see him play with McDavid

  • crackerjack14

    Strong evidence that Hall should not have been named Captain early on. Yes, he remains the likely Captain of the future, but for now Ference can shoulder the burden during the lean years. It gives the kid time to just grow up and get comfortable with his team, his city and his own skin.

  • ubermiguel

    Great article. Purely from a hockey perspective I do worry about things like “As soon as the puck was turned over, or we didn’t have a hundred percent possession, we were told to get above the puck and get inside position on their guys so we can outnumber them in any situation”. Isn’t this hockey 101? I’m sure at work many of us need reminders from the boss occasionally, but this seems to be a theme over the last few years. Well, since the Eakins era mostly.

  • R U Kidding Me!

    Hall, Eberle, Nuge, Yakupov, and Schultz. I think we’re going to see renewed energy and excitement from them like we haven’t seen since their rookie years.

    New (experienced) coach, new (experienced) GM, new generational talent, new direction.

    The dark days are over and great times are just around the corner.

    I feel like Hall as a fan with renewed energy and excitement.

  • iamSean

    As long as the team comes to the rink with the mentality that they have to HATE LOSING, MORE THAN THEY LOVE WINNING, i’ll be happy. And then if they work their bag off to avoid losing at all cost, we’ll do alright this year.

    Fixing the back end and black hole in net would go a long way as well.

  • Armchair_Gm

    I think this season will go a long way to curing the way some oiler fans feel about Taylor hall, body language on the bench says a lot so I think finally getting some wins will help him relax more. Also I think hall is a Phil kessel type where he gets criticized for things out of his control. Like being a leader or never having a real first line centreman. Just let the kid play

  • Awesome article Jason. No 18 year old has had some much pressure dumped on their lap as Taylor has. I am happy Taylor is rejuvenated with being on team Canada and winning. Lets bring the same atmosphere to the Oilers. But most of all lets make Taylor Captain.

  • McDavid is fortunate to join a team that has many key pieces in place already. Hall joined a team with barren cupboards and had to endure a lot of hardship over his first 5 years. Very optimistic for Hall next 5 years. Cant wait to see Hall in the NHL Playoffs. He is going to be a beast.

  • McDavid is fortunate to join a team that has many key pieces in place already. Hall joined a team with barren cupboards and had to endure a lot of hardship over his first 5 years. Very optimistic for Hall next 5 years. Cant wait to see Hall in the NHL Playoffs. He is going to be a beast.

    Edit: dang double post (trash party!!).

  • Gordie Wayne

    I always like to play on the side of caution, it’s true that Todd did a lot of good things at the Worlds, but he’s also dealing with 25 all star type players, whereas, the Oil is not there yet, not even close, it’ll be interesting to see how it played out! Hopefully for everybody’s sake Todd could work the magic he displayed at the Worlds on to the Oil, that would be marvellous!! At this point, I really don’t think reinforcements is all that urgent any more, Todd really need to have a feel of his team to know who to let go and who to keep! If it’s true about Hall’s ‘Resurrection’ from five losing seasons, then it could be true to a lot of other players too! Don’t it?

  • iamSean

    Talk is cheap, especially in the off-season.

    How selfish of a player has Hall been-just to learn that hockey game is a collective effort?

    To be honest, I stopped reading this biased love/crush story.

  • I would imagine most of the boys shoulders slumped when informed that next year was to be another developmental year. It wont happen overnight, but like myself I am sure they feel they are on the right path now, let the rejuvenation begin. The pall over this franchise has finally been lifted.

  • Jordanzza

    People who are talking about trading away the core we’ve paid such a dear price to acquire are nuts. Of course you’ve got to give quality to get quality in hockey deals, but while the goal every season from here on out should be to make the playoffs ala` Detroit, no one should expect us to challenge for the Cup this season. So why burn the stable down before we know exactly what we’ve got in our stud broncos?

    Yakupov and Lander are on great value deals right now and both have top 6 potential. Even Marincin hasn’t fully established his value at 85 career GP. Why not wait another season to see what he’s made of before trading him?

    Assuming PC can fix our D and goaltending, ain’t NOTHING wrong with rolling 3 legit offensive lines in front of the Wagon:

    Hall – McDavid – Purcell

    Pouliot – Nuge – Eberle

    Draisaitl – Lander – Yakupov

    Hendricks – Gordon – Klinkhammer

    Purcell’s trade value is almost guaranteed to be higher at the trade deadline at which point Nail could be promoted.

    • Randaman

      Hall – McDavid – Eberle

      Pouliot – Nuge – Yakupov

      Draisaitl – Lander – Purcell

      Hendricks – Gordon – Klinkhammer

      There, I fixed it for you.

      I wish people would stop burying Yak on the third line. We need to find out who he is before this new contract is done.

      Just sayin…

    • bradleypi

      That forward group is just too soft for me. 3 scoring lines may work on your Playstation but I’m loading up 2 lines to start and adding some meat to the lineup. And after seeing the teams PC built in Boston makes me think he would agree with me.

      Pouliot-nuge-ebs
      Hall-mcdavid-yak
      Hendy-gordon-??
      Gazdic-lander-klinkhammer

      I’m finding a way to get rid of purcell because he adds nothing imo. A Steve ott type player for the 3rd line would be ideal. Preferably younger of course. Someone that agitates and can back it up.

  • Kevwan

    I see parallels in Taylor Hall’s experience at the WHC and Lemieux at the ’87 Canada Cup. Both were around the same age and came into the league with bad teams.

    Mario has credited his time with Gretzky, Messier, and Coffey for his growth as a player. I’m not comparing Hall to Lemieux but hopefully the time with Crosby helps Hall get to the next level.

  • Dwayne Roloson 35

    Yeah i liked his comments after the gold medal. He said he forgot how addicting winning was. Its crazy how much this organization has turned around this summer. Amazing start so far.

  • ubermiguel

    Only thing accomplished so far this off-season is that we feel better about the future of the team…which has happened before only to fizzle out by November.

    Agreed that new management and coaching as well as McDavid will help, but I reserve fist pumping of what the Oilers accomplished so far until they actually make the playoffs!