Oilers trade Martin Marincin, then acquire Eric Gryba

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When the Oilers acquired Griffin Reinhart yesterday, I felt it meant the end of Martin Marincin in Edmonton and today the Oilers traded him to Toronto for pesky forward Brad Ross and the 107th pick.

Admittedly, I wasn’t as high on Marincin as some others. 

If Darnell Nurse shows he is
ready to play in the NHL, I didn’t see how the Oilers could start the
season with Oscar Klefbom, Justin Schultz, Nurse, Reinhart and Marincin
in the lineup. You can’t have that much youth on the backend if you want
to win.

Speaking with scouts at the draft, Marincin’s value around the
league was much lower than it was amongst some in Edmonton. Pretty much
every scout echoed my thoughts on him. He has NHL skill and smarts, but has
shown a lack of competitive desire in games. Three scouts who watched
AHL playoffs were disappointed he didn’t dominate at the AHL level. They all
said teams would still take a chance on him, because of his skill, but
his trade value is low.

Ross has signed in Germany. He was suspended in the AHL last season for steroids, and this was really just part one of a two-part trade that freed up a contract on the 50-man roster.

GRYBA

The Oilers then traded Travis Ewanyk and the 107th pick to Ottawa for Eric Gryba.

We could argue it was Marincin and Ewanyk for Gryba and Ross. Gryba is a 27 years old, a right shot D-man with one year left on his contact, a $1.25 million cap hit.

He is 6’4″ and 225 pounds. He is a stay-at-home defender with little offensive flair. In 165 games he has 4-25-29, and +17 in his career. He is more physical than Marincin. He is a third pairing defender who can kill penalties.

You would slot him behind Mark Fayne and Justin Schultz on the right side depth chart. 

Gryba for Marincin gives the Oilers a more reliable NHL player. It is not a sexy trade, nor does it fill the void in the top-four, but I don’t mind the deal.

Again I will admit much of that is based on Marincin’s inability to show he was willing to battle hard enough at the NHL level. A new opportunity in Toronto could benefit him, but with Reinhart, Nurse and Klefbom on the left side the Oilers clearly felt he was expendable.

  • The Goalie 1976

    Bye Bye Marincin. He was as soft as warm butter, simply cannot play against strong big west conference players.

    I like what Chia is doing, getting bigger, stronger, meaner (Bruins type players)

    Gryba is an ADAM McQuiad type for 1/2 the price. Good pick up.

    This MUST mean a buyout of Niki, plus I dont think Schultz is they type of player Chia will have on the team (thank god.)

    All good, all around!

  • Petrolero

    Who is the top pairing defence man you keep mentioning? Gave away Marincin for nothing and traded 2 good picks for a guy that skates and passes at about 50% the level that Marincin does. Let’s hope Talbot can carry the mail now. I was really hoping that we would get a goalie that wasn’t a little bit of a question mark going into first year AM

  • Chris.

    Yes, just like petry couldnt “battle hard enough” on the OIlers, and now he is the #2dman on stanley cup playoff team.

    “Battle hard enough” should be stricken from hockey for life. Add “grit” and “intensity” to that heap.

    • OtOil

      Are you talking Petry, vs Petry on you xbox!?

      Seems to me Petry didn’t “battle hard enough” for his bosses, so they traded him.

      He’s doing better at his new job now.

  • Oil diehard

    Good couple of days for the Oilers. It’s not always how good a player is, it is how will the team play together. This means maybe one of these new players might find some chemistry and be a nice surprise. I for one am looking forward to a much better season. Go oil go.

  • Rdubb

    I think too many people are thinking about Calgary. Sure they got dougie hamilton. We got reinhart. Gives a massive mental edge to calgary. And yes you can move guys like barzal to the wing. But from what I remember during the memorial cup griffin was a beast the whole way through. I also wouldn’t trade nurse straight across for Hamilton. At the moment that would put me and a few others into the 1%. I truly feel a player like nurse with his heart and passion won’t let himself fail. About griffin, this kid needs a fair chance. It can go either way. Chiarelli is intelligent and knows how to say no. But he also knows how to pull the trigger. The percentage has to be above 50 for today’s moves to work out

  • Lowe But Now High Expectations

    Wow Sure are a lot of panties getting in a twist. I like what PC did. And this is only part one, the next chapter comes starting july 1.

    • Alsker

      Actually starts before that. Prior to Canada Day Chia has to either qualify Schultz(3.75M), go to team elected arbitration, or offer him what they think he’s worth. If he doesn’t like it he’s a free agent.

    • bradleypi

      Wow oilersnation wants every defenceman in the league or what? By my count the oil have potentially 7 or 8 nhl dmen on the roster. As I think Reinhart is ready and nurse is darn close. Why would the oilers want a dman that a playoff team is just letting walk for nothing? Unless PC has a trade up his sleeve I don’t think there’s any more dmen coming. I highly doubt he paid such a high price for Reinhart just so he can play in Bakersfield.

  • Oil diehard

    Given PC’s comments about liking players “heavy on the puck” moving MM is hardly surprising. There’s lots to like about MM’s game but his lack of physicality is just what he is.

  • kawi460

    I’m unsure but is Cody Franson an Option??? Wouldn’t mind him playing some of the “heavier minutes” rather than over playing J. Schultz and some of the youngsters on the back end.

    Hopefully they let the prospects develop properly. If that means Nurse and Reinhart to the AHL for a few months then so be it.

    Also as for UFA’s what would be and option for some size to play with McDavid. Think its gonna be hard for the Oil to play in the west again. Although Gryba brings a physical edge they desperately need.

  • Quicksilver ballet

    You could literally replace the name Marincin with Schults name and not know the difference in that capability assessment.

    A lack of competitive desire indeed. I just hope they can make that same quick decision when the time comes for Justin, Leon and Griffin. I guess Peter isn’t going to wait and make his own assessment on these players for himself.

  • paul wodehouse

    JG…the first ten or so comments for your story on the Gryba get/Marincin go were leftovers from the OILERS LAND TALBOT piece that was aborted … mine at #5 says now get him signed and that was meant for Chiarelli to get TALBOT signed …

    ~…I’m with you too I smoked Marincin, I baked him into brownies and even put him in a vaporizer and still couldn’t get high on him either~

  • Petrolero

    At the end of the day the Oilers got a cheaper, less talented (but more agressive) Petry and a struggling prospect in Reinhardt just like Marincin. The D is actually worse off right now than it was at the beginning of last season on paper at least.

    Chiarelli still needs a top 3 veteran d man. Glad he got Talbot without having to send a warm body.

    • jonnyquixote

      I don’t know about the Petry to Gyrba comparison, but I think the Reinhart to Marincin comparison is interesting.

      Both are on our presumptive bottom pairing next season. Both are very large but not especially physical NHL defensemen with more of a stay-at-home upside. Both have limited NHL experience and a short history of difficulty cracking the NHL lineup. Reinhart obviously has a sexier draft pedigree and projects as more of an impact player.

      How much more? Well, in order to make these draft-day machinations worthwhile, the difference between Reinhart and Marcin has to equate to the value of Barzal and Mitchell Stevens (or whomever the Oilers would have drafted in those spots, say Kyle Connor or Evgeni Svechnikov & Oliver Kylington or Paul Bittner).

      That’s a big, big gap. I’m not saying it can’t be overcome. I don’t know why Marincin regressed last season and couldn’t crack the lineup. I don’t know if Reinhart’s skating issues are a fatal flaw or are overblown vis a vis his NHL potential. Maybe Marincin will be in the KHL in a season or two, like some project, and maybe Reinhart is a softer, gentler Chris Pronger, like some project.

      But the fact remains: that’s a lot of talent it cost to swap one player for the other.

  • Alsker

    So its Ewanyk + MM for Gryba?? Well that gives us what, 5 3rd pairing Dmen. It gets better, 3 of them cost us more than 10M.(Ference/NN/Jultz) Walk away from Jultz, get NN off the books end of this season and then go whale hunting for real top pairing D I guess. As for Ross…roid user signed in Europe…6/7 rounder would have been better.

  • knee deep in it

    We have the cap space to spend a lot money on franson or sekera. We have nikitik, Gordon and Purcell coming off at the end of the year so we look good in the mid term as well.

    IMO, spend whatever it takes to land franson or sekera and send nikitin to the ahl. We don’t want his buyout hit next year and we can afford to bury him this year.

    One legit first pairing dman makes things look a lot better.

  • jonnyquixote

    80% of the game is even play.

    PK subban’s teams power play performed a total of 1/2 goal above average for the 76 games on the ice. Where he earned half his money was 32 EVA. Puck Transition! Heck Klefbom got 16 EVA in less than 40 gm in a offensive role under Nelson.

    Gryba last year 12 EVA.

    Other D 12 EVA: OEL; Phanuef; Gardiner; Visnovsky; J. Benn; N. Schultz; Jackman; Sustr; Rosival.

    D 11 EVA: Seabrook; Vlasic; Petry; Brodin; I. Cole; Ericsson; Seidenberg; Emelin;

    D: 10 EVA: OEL; Seth jones; Beauchemin; Trouba; M. Stone; Ekholm; M. Stuart; Ference; De Haan.

    Can he get the puck to our Forwards? Sure looks like it!

    Rheinhardts CHL NHLE; AHL NHLE; and 8 games NHL suggest 10 EVA seasons. Can he get the puck to our forwards?

  • jonnyquixote

    Gryba played 1st comp in 13-14. Was 1.99 EVGA/60.

    Better than Marincin’s 1st comp 2.08 EVGA/60 .

    I am the biggest Marincin Fan. wished we kept him. but if failed box protection is the send out.

    Bye Justin!

  • Dwayne Roloson 35

    Marincin is an AHL dman and always will be. If Reinhart works out its great…I believe he will. But even if he doesn’t it has nothing to do with Marincin. He will never be a regular dman in this league.

  • Rdubb

    Gregor
    with all the young d-men you mentioned in your article, plus the addition of Gryba, should the Oilers go out and sign (hopefully sign) a #1/#2 D, or even a #3/#4, who will the Oilers buy out or send down to the AHL? Will it be Nikitan or Ference?
    The Oilers blue line cannot start the year with both of these guys starting in my opinion as I’d much rather have Griffin play then Nikitan, as it’d give Griffin some actual NHL playing time, even if he is the 6th or even 7th D, although I feel that Ference will (and should be) the 7th D if our D has any chance @ growing.
    But I really do not want to see Hunt in there as a 6 or 7th D on this team, and perhaps with Eakins gone, that shouldn’t happen?
    Final thought, would it not be a good move if Edmonton could move Schultz for a guy like Vlasic (unknown what SJ’s cap is like off the top of my head), or one of the studs from CHI, as that would save CHI approx $2.5-$3M per yr. What about Meyers or Bogossian?
    I just can’t see Schultz in Oiler silks long term as from what I’ve out of him is a complete lack of compete in his own zone, and that’s where a d-man needs it. But give Schultz the puck and his compete level jumps 10 fold.
    Maybe coach Todd and his assistants can turn him around, and perhaps it worth a shot to wait and see, but, until Schultz starts to realize that he is a defender and not a winger, he will always be a risk and he doesn’t do enough on offence to make up for his lack of defensive ability and or coverage…
    Just my opinion but I’d like to hear yours Gregor?
    Peck