Oilers trade Martin Marincin, then acquire Eric Gryba

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When the Oilers acquired Griffin Reinhart yesterday, I felt it meant the end of Martin Marincin in Edmonton and today the Oilers traded him to Toronto for pesky forward Brad Ross and the 107th pick.

Admittedly, I wasn’t as high on Marincin as some others. 

If Darnell Nurse shows he is
ready to play in the NHL, I didn’t see how the Oilers could start the
season with Oscar Klefbom, Justin Schultz, Nurse, Reinhart and Marincin
in the lineup. You can’t have that much youth on the backend if you want
to win.

Speaking with scouts at the draft, Marincin’s value around the
league was much lower than it was amongst some in Edmonton. Pretty much
every scout echoed my thoughts on him. He has NHL skill and smarts, but has
shown a lack of competitive desire in games. Three scouts who watched
AHL playoffs were disappointed he didn’t dominate at the AHL level. They all
said teams would still take a chance on him, because of his skill, but
his trade value is low.

Ross has signed in Germany. He was suspended in the AHL last season for steroids, and this was really just part one of a two-part trade that freed up a contract on the 50-man roster.

GRYBA

The Oilers then traded Travis Ewanyk and the 107th pick to Ottawa for Eric Gryba.

We could argue it was Marincin and Ewanyk for Gryba and Ross. Gryba is a 27 years old, a right shot D-man with one year left on his contact, a $1.25 million cap hit.

He is 6’4″ and 225 pounds. He is a stay-at-home defender with little offensive flair. In 165 games he has 4-25-29, and +17 in his career. He is more physical than Marincin. He is a third pairing defender who can kill penalties.

You would slot him behind Mark Fayne and Justin Schultz on the right side depth chart. 

Gryba for Marincin gives the Oilers a more reliable NHL player. It is not a sexy trade, nor does it fill the void in the top-four, but I don’t mind the deal.

Again I will admit much of that is based on Marincin’s inability to show he was willing to battle hard enough at the NHL level. A new opportunity in Toronto could benefit him, but with Reinhart, Nurse and Klefbom on the left side the Oilers clearly felt he was expendable.

  • jonnyquixote

    ottawa resident and fan of both sens and oilers.

    eric gryba will be nice addition for oilers. upgrade over keith aulie and maybe even nikitin and ference.

    battles hard, physical, but gets stuck in own zone for a while if hes not playing with a fast puck mover. would have been nice fit wit marincin.

    for those who wanted adam mcquaid, eric gryba is nice cheaper upgrade than mcquaid.

    reinhart was a genius move by pete, i didnt even see it coming.

    would have preferred a more proven goalie than talbot though.

    in last two days, pete chiarelli did more than mactavish than last two years even if u dont count mcdavid pick.

    btw, chiarelli is my friends uncle!

  • CapeBretonOilers

    @zz

    Man, give it up. Boston wouldn’t deal with us unless we drastically overpaid. How many times does it need to be said that we didn’t get outbid by Calgary? Some deals just can’t be made.

  • Chris.

    I was pretty down on Chiarelli’s work after day 1 of the draft. (I had assumed that the 33 pick would be needed to land one of Lack or Talbot)

    Based on the events of today I am back peddling hard and will try my best to reserve judgement until I see the full lineup of players Chiarelli gives to Todd to start camp.

    PS. More work needs to be done IMO.

  • jonnyquixote

    Chiarelli gave away Marincin for a guy the Leafs weren’t even going to qualify? And we’re applauding him here?

    Question Marincin all you want, but he’s worth more that a German leaguer.

    At Leafs Nation they’re laughing..

    Uggh. Still very concerned.

    • bleedingoil

      Either you are foolishly serious or you are seriously foolish……or maybe just a troll. Barzal? You wanted Barzal? Where would he play? He would be behind RNH / McDavid / Draisaitl / Lander / Gordon. Not to mention he is shorter and lighter than the whole lot. The Oilers have enough bodies up front for the foreseeable future. The focus now is on D. The only body available within reason was Chabot. Instead PC took a former 4th overall pick with draft +2 years seasoning in the WHL and 1 in the AHL. He is a former MEMCUP champ that knows how to win. With Aulie not being resigned, Reinhart just turned into our biggest Dman. So instead of selecting another smallish forward with skill that we will bury in the AHL because there is no room in the big house, we got a big, mean player familiar with the city that already has 3+ developmenmt years under his belt. Now about the Marincin thing. Gryba is bigger (22 lbs) and meaner and has out up a few more points. In both of these deals, PC knows what he is getting and has bodies that will have an impact today, not in a few years. PC is done seeing the Oilers develop. The time is now. ELCs will start expiring on our talent and the clock is ticking on Lord Stanley.

    • Zarny

      Yeah the 4th overall with a year of pro experience and looks ready for the NHL will be the bust over the kid who slid from 9th to 16th.

      Mathew Barzal is far more likely to be a “bust” than Griffin Reinhart.

      So many seem to forget that as excited as some were for a prospect like Barzal, those same people were a lot more excited about Griffin Reinhart 3 years ago lol.

  • Cain

    The Oilers desperately needed a top pairing denfenceman, preferably two, before this draft.

    The draft is over and the Oilers still need a top pairing defenceman, preferably two.

  • TheBirdOfAnger

    This is a nice trend! We have a stay at home in Fayne and Gryba on the right side and we have puck moving point producers on the left. Now get Schultz and NN outta here!

  • pkam

    I have said yesterday after the Reinhart trade that the days Marincin as an Oilers are over.

    I don’t understand why fans here would want Marcincin over Schultz. Both are soft but one is supposed to be a LH shutdown defenseman and the other is projected to be a RH offensive defenseman and PP specialist.

    I can take a soft offensive defenseman but not a soft shutdown defenseman, not to mention we have lots of LH defenseman and not enough RH defenseman. So if I have to choose one from them, it will Shcultz over Marincin any day.

  • bradleypi

    YAY! Lol I’m so happy right now. A top line center, atop pairing dman and I know oilersnation won’t agree with this but also a starting goalie all in the fold in 2 days. Great work PC!!!

      • bradleypi

        Nobody here thinks Reinhart will be a top pairing guy? I’m positive he will be. Oilersnation needs to temper expectations just like Chiarelli was talking about yesterday. PC just put together a legit top pair for the very near future. Reinhart and nurse will anchor this team for years. I honestly don’t think the savior that oilersnation is wanting on d is coming. Nobody is giving the oilers there best defenseman. I just don’t see it happening

        • pkam

          Not that I don’t like Reinhart, but I have more confidence in Klefbom and Nurse than Reinhart to be a top pair defenseman.

          If one of Klefbom or Nurse is RH, I think we have a solid top pairing in about 3 years.

  • Ndustry

    Does anyone look at hits or Zone starts on here? Gryba is exactly what the Oil needs to be looking for. Umm for those on here it’s like a Fayne who actually hits and costs 1/4th. Seriously I’m pretty sure no-one looks at base counts on war-on-ice here or played a fantasy hockey pool that counts hits. If you don’t you should really look at the Oilers D-Core – its pretty awful and this is in the direction of fixing an obvious weakness. No-one in the Oilers D gives out more hits than they take aside from Ference (who is undersized). Now we added Reinhart and Gryba who Hit more than they take as well. This is all good news to me and a far better balance of physicality and players who actually use their “size” agressively.

  • CapeBretonOilers

    There will be no more watching when one of our stars get hammered. With Hendricks and Gryba we have enforcement. It is an eye for an eye now !! Good work !

  • paul wodehouse

    I love this trade. Gryba is the kind of bastard you need on a team’s d core, especially one like the Oilers. And he can actually play and defend. I guarantee you the opposition is always going to be looking over their shoulders for this guy.

  • B_Oliver

    Cool that the Oil got a bonus pick back. I’m excited to see if he does any further work on the defense, though.
    Also, glad it wasn’t a huge overpay and it was still just picks for Talbot. Was scared Slats was going to pry one of our you blue out [Marincin] but alas the right deal was made.

  • Naterator

    I’ll be the 1st to admit i’m a little underwhelmed so far. But i’m certain we are waiting for 1-2 more moves from Chiarelli on D. So I will withold judgement for another month. IF they somehow land Sekera and buyout Nikitin…things would not look too bad in that case.

    Fayne-Sekera- Take on heavy D-zone Toughs

    Klefbom-Schultz- Get the offensive zone push

    Gryba-Reinhart/Nurse

    7D-Ference

    Not perfect but vast improvement from last year.

  • Borbs

    I have to say I’m impressed with the job Chiarelli did this weekend! Who could complain about it? Reinhart is a 3rd overall pick with 3(!) years of seasoning, Gryba is a big, solid bridge D, and the deal he made for Talbot was incredible. He sweated Sather hard on that one. When a GM has offers of 2 2nd rd picks, and then a 1st rd pick, and then refuses both? And Chia gets him for less later? Absolute classic! Even if the D is slightly upgraded, it’s a huge improvement over last year. A couple of guys that will make it harder in the Oilers zone are just fine with me! Gonna be a long summer now dammit!!

  • Dwayne Roloson 35

    Looks like we’re getting tougher to play against. I doubt he’s done making moves or signing players. Sign franson and Schultz becomes trade bait.

  • Ndustry

    Klefbom – Schultz
    Nurse – Reinhart
    Fayne – umm well I guess Nikitin more likely his replacement
    Ference – Gryba

    I think we have some depth on D now and 5 potentially 6 (niktins replacement) top 4. But more over we have room to pursue a top4 or better top 4. I doubt this is the end of the efforts to upgrade D but it puts us in a good position and looks promising, plus if anyone fails we have room to fix or replace them.

    I heard Chiarelli saying he expects Reinhart to play next year so that gives Nurse some time if he needs it too.

  • CMG30

    Well, MacT’s dream defense is shaping up: big and mean but question marks in the other aspects of their game. We’ve watched this show a few times before and it’s never ended well.

    Still, having these guys on the back end would be OK if there was a legit top pair ahead of them doing the heavy lifting. Until we acquire such players, the defense will continue to stink because everyone is playing over their heads.

    I’m also not convinced that we should be penciling in players like Reinhart and Nurse to crack the lineup next season. I’m not suggesting they’re bad players, far from it, but players are ready when they’re ready and rushing them almost always leads to disaster. From what I understand, Reinhart’s last season in the AHL did not go well. We spent the draft picks on him, and he IS still a blue chip prospect, but the key word there is PROSPECT. Lets make sure he has the best chance to become the player everyone hopes he can be. If that means the AHL, then don’t try to force him into the NHL.

  • CMG30

    It’s become clear with these trades that MacTavish has Chiarelli’s ear and is providing significant input.

    That should be a terrifying thought for Oiler fans.

        • bleedingoil

          yes. DEPTH IS DEPTH regardless on how deep it is. You can categorize players on a league level and team level. As a team, with the addition of Reinhart to skate with Nurse KBom, and Schultz, Marincin will never be any more than a 3rd pairing defender on the Oilers. On a league level, please tell me a cup winning team since his draft year that he would be any more than a third pairing point man. You cant. Trading him to acquire Gryba was a smart move. My point was that trading him now was a good option because a previous poster said not to trade when value was low. Marincin may turn out to be the best of the bunch but it never would have happened in ETown. His ETown value peaked earlier today.

          Sorry that your lack of hockey knowledge leads you to involve name calling as a form of debate. If you want to maybe you can come over and have wedgie fights sometime.

          Oh yeah and the whole mental retardation thing was completely disrespectful to countless people in countless ways. Get a life, loser.

  • HockeyYoda

    Is it only me or I do I feel that we are not taking advantage of this “deep” draft. Whatever the case may be we git our player in Mcdavid and Talbot and Reinheart are great players to help develop this team.

  • STR8 SHOOTER

    We just went from the bottom of the American Hockey league for skill to the upper end of the AHL. Which one of these bums are gonna give the puck to our skilled players?

  • rayrayj

    Now let’s grab a true #1 d-man and another goalie!! And we’re set,I think Peter did a great job at this draft,said he wasn’t gonna trade a 1st for a goalie and he held his word,he had Griffin in his cross hairs for a while,this trade wasn’t a spur of the moment move,he wanted him from day one and all the NY fans are pissed about Talbot and Griffin, we won this draft all the way,still have lots a cap space for that #1d-man,The Islanders fans are really pissed because they think Griffin was gonna be a star d-man and Peter has seen him in Boston and has watched him alot,this wasn’t just a Bob green signing,it was a Peter chai signing to..