WEEKEND UPDATE!

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There was an offensive explosion by the Bakersfield Condors this week, and several prospects took part in the action. Will we see any of these prospects in Edmonton after the trade deadline?

BAKERSFIELD CONDORS

  1. R Matt Ford 35GP, 17-13-30 (3GP, 1-2-3 this week)
  2. LD Brad Hunt 29GP, 7-20-27 (3GP, 1-3-4 this week)
  3. C-R Andrew Miller 31GP, 10-17-27 (3GP, 2-13 this week)
  4. L Ryan Hamilton 37GP, 13-8-21 (3GP, 4-1-5 this week)
  5. RD Joey Laleggia 35GP, 6-13-19 (3GP, 1-4-5 this week)
  6. RD Jordan Oesterle 31GP, 2-16-18 (3GP, 0-3-3 this week)
  7. L Josh Winquist 16GP, 7-9-16 (3GP, 1-4-5 this week)
  8. C Kyle Platzer 33GP, 5-8-13 (3GP, 0-0-0 this week)
  9. C Jujhar Khaira 23GP, 4-7-11 (2GP, 0-0-0 this week)
  10. D Nikita Nikitin 22GP, 1-9-10 (DNP this week)
  11. L Kale Kessy 34GP, 6-4-10 (3GP, 0-0-0 this week)
  12. F Josh Currie 27GP, 3-5-8 (3GP, 0-1-1 this week)
  13. LD David Musil 38GP, 3-5-8 (3GP, 0-1-1 this week)
  14. R Tyler Pitlick 15GP, 3-4-7 (3GP, 3-1-4 this week)
  15. R Greg Chase 19GP, 1-6-7 (ECHL this week)
  16. C Bogdan Yakimov 19GP, 3-4-7 (KHL)
  17. LD Griffin Reinhart 17GP, 1-5-6 (3GP, 0-1-1 and NHL this week)
  18. C Marco Roy 23GP, 4-2-6 (1GP, 0-0-0 this week)
  19. D Dillon Simpson 29GP, 1-5-6 (3GP, 0-0-0 this week)
  20. L Mitch Moroz 30GP, 2-4-6 (DNP this week)
  21. C Phil McRae 17GP, 3-2-5 (3GP, 1-1-2 this week)
  22. R Anton Slepyshev 20GP, 4-1-5 (DNP this week)
  23. F Rob Klinkhammer 3GP, 3-1-4 (NHL this week)
  24. L Braden Christoffer 30GP, 1-3-4 (DNP this week)
  25. R Iiro Pakarinen 4GP, 1-2-3 (NHL this week)
  26. R Zack Kassian 7GP, 2-1-3 (3GP, 1-1-2 and NHL this week)
  27. C Alexis Loiseau 12GP, 1-2-3 (ECHL this week)
  28. F Kellen Jones 12GP, 1-2-3 (3GP, 1-0-1 this week)
  29. D Martin Gernat 22GP, 0-3-3 (DNP this week)
  30. C Leon Draisaitl 6GP, 1-1-2 (NHL this week)
  31. D Mark Fayne 5GP, 0-1-1 (NHL this week)
  32. LD Darnell Nurse 6GP, 0-1-1 (NHL this week)
  33. RD Nick Pageau 12GP, 0-1-1 (ECHL this week)
  34. LD Ben Betker 1GP, 0-0-0 (ECHL this week)
    • The AHL veterans posted most of the offense, but those prospects who are in bold (Joey Laleggia, Jordan Oesterle and Josh Winquist) are full value. Due to the NHL AS break, coach Fleming would have had other, veteran options for those feature jobs. Impressive weak for these men.

    1. G Laurent Brossoit 24GP, 2.61 .924 (two games, both wins, stopped 53 of 58 this week)
    2. G Eetu Laurikainen 5GP, 3.41 .902 (one game lost but stopped 40 of 44 this week)
    3. G Ty Rimmer 1GP, 3.00 .875 (ECHL)

      ECHL

      1. F Alexis Loiseau 28GP, 9-15-24 (1GP, 0-2-2 this week)
      2. C-R Greg Chase 17GP, 11-5-16 (2GP, 4-1-5 this week)
      3. D Nick Pageau 26, 3-12-15 (2GP, 0-1-1 this week)
      4. D Ben Betker 40GP, 1-13-14 (1GP, 0-0-0 and AHL this week)
      5. C Josh Currie 13GP, 6-6-12 (AHL this week)
      6. F Marco Roy 10GP, 1-5-6 (AHL this week)
      7. G Ty Rimmer 27GP, 2.90 .916 (3 games this week)

      Note: Chase being in Norfolk could be a positive, much as it was for Mark Arcobello and Josh Winquist before him. Several prospects in Bakersfield did not play this week, that is a very poor use of young assets. Chase popped four goals in two games, and is working hard to get a regular job in Bakersfield. Suspect he benefits from the playing time.

        CHL

        1. RD Ethan Bear 48GP, 12-32-44 (2GP, 0-0-0 this week)
        2. LD Caleb Jones 50GP, 8-30-38 (3GP, 1-3-4 this week) 
        3. Keven Bouchard 29GP, 3.84 .871 (DNP this week)

          NCAA

          1. F Tyler Vesel, Omaha 25GP, 3-10-13 (2GP, 0-0-0 this week)
          2. L Evan Campbell, UMass-Lowell 25GP, 4-7-11 (2GP, 2-1-3 this week)
          3. LD William Lagesson, UMass-Amherst 19GP, 2-4-6 (DNP this week)
          4. F Aidan Muir Western Michigan 25GP, 1-4-5 (2GP, 0-1-1 this week)
          5. G Zach Nagelvoort 9GP, 3.14 .888 (DNP this week)

          USHL

          1. D John Marino, Tri City Storm 34GP, 2-15-17 (2GP, 0-2-2 this week)

          EUROPE

          1. D Ziyat Paigin 40GP, 7-17-24 (KHL) (2gp, 0-2-2 this week)
          2. C Bogdan Yakimov 7GP, 1-1-2 (KHL) (1gp, 1-1-2 this week)
          3. G Miroslav Svobota 17GP, 3.27 .918 (Cze-2) (2 strong games this week)

          BEST PERFORMANCES OF THE WEEK

          1. Joey Laleggia had a monster week, I don’t know if we see him this season but he has to be getting noticed with weeks like this one.
          2. Josh Winquist is without an NHL contract. Will he get one?
          3. Ziyat Paigin is playing in a very good league and performing well. Using Rob Vollman’s NHLE method, Paigin’s offense represents 39 points in 82 NHL games. Lordy.
          4. Greg Chase scored four goals in two games, including a hat-trick on Friday.
          5. Caleb Jones is catching up to Ethan Bear! Outstanding prospects taken deep in the draft.

            (Laleggia photo by Mark Williams)

            • For Pete's Sake!

              Nice to see Greg Chase find his scoring touch this week. I still have high hopes for that kid.

              And those three young low round picks from last year’s draft, Caleb Jones, Ethan Bear and Ziyat Paigin. They might actually give us some depth at defense someday.

            • For Pete's Sake!

              Pitlick! – what could be.

              Do they give him another shot at the NHL injury list this season? I am hoping he has all the silly injuries behind him now.

              • Seanaconda

                so? you’re pointing to the fact that barzal looks like a promising scoring centre. first of all, they probably wouldn’t have picked him anyway, especially since they are now deep at centre. where exactly would you slot him in? he’s not a big or physical guy, which means he would be best suited to one of the top two lines. you think a kid that’s doing decently well in junior is going to challenge mcdavid or drai anytime soon? no doubt we can use more defense, but we already have young talent bubbling under, what we need is veterans who can play big minutes and bring the young guys along. try reading these articles with some optimism of what we do have instead of always focusing on the negative.

                • Seanaconda

                  What are you even talking about? It’s a bad thing to have quality prospects? I agree we need veterans, don’t think Reinhart qualifies as one tho.

                  • HardBoiledOil 1.0

                    Si you’re point is just all about the Reinhart trade then. I understand there are many who didn’t like the trade, but enough already! Chiarelli made that trade because he believes Reinhart will be a good NHL defenceman and he does alot more scouting than we do. Also, there were no defenceman left in the draft that had the upside he does and d-men are what they need most, not more flashy, soft forwards.

                    • HardBoiledOil 1.0

                      it no use because people only see the here and now and don’t want to be patient anymore. Barzal is very productive albeit in junior and they don’t see much stats wise or physical play wise from Reinhart, so the Oilers have already lost the trade even though Barzal likely wasn’t the player the Oilers were going to take. 10 years from now we will still hear about it similar to when the Oilers traded down in 2003 and took Marc Pouliot. we heard for years and years about how good the players we didn’t pick were for their teams.

                • Strottie

                  Barzal also plays right wing. Having a guy like him coming up thru the system would sure make it a lot easier to handle an Eberle trade for that veteran help your talking about.

                • Kevwan

                  Not picking Barzal because they are deep at centre now would be a foolish decision. At some point McDavid and Draisaitl and nurse are gonna have to get paid, and Nuge could easily be a salary cap casualty. Having Barzal in the system and not having to rush him is great cap insurance.

              • DiscoBiscuits

                So Barzal is putting up points comparable to a Robbie Schremp like pace in D+1. Are we supposed to be in awe of this?

                6’5″ Dman, maybe the next Martin Marincin?

                • DiscoBiscuits

                  Robbie schremp like numbers? What does that mean? And Marincin? You’re an emotional over the top type guy arnt you. Maybe he’s the next Webber? He’s a prospect man. with good scout reports. More than could be said about Reinharts first pro season

                  • DiscoBiscuits

                    My point is that there is a long way between the CHL and the NHL. Putting up numbers is the CHL is nice, but is not a guarantee of a future NHLer. People who gush over the value of 16 +33 need to put things into perspective.

                  • Spydyr

                    By Schremp like numbers I meant that Barzal is at a 1.55 ppg clip, Schremp in D+1 was 1.5 ppg. Maricin and Carlo both 6’5″ 2nd round picks. So I thought these wre interesting comparisons.

                    • DiscoBiscuits

                      That’s my point, someone looking good in the CHL might be the great or not, so gushing about 1.55 ppg in the CHL is a waste. Stating a 6’5″ guy is playing in the CHL means what, there are hundreds of D men playing the CHL. Some will be in the NHL. most won’t.

                      BTW Toews was playing NACA not CFL, so maybe not such a good comparison.

                    • DiscoBiscuits

                      I don’t even know what we’re debating because I agree with you. I suppose you like Reinhart more than me. I hated the trade at the time, I hate it more even now, and if/when the guys in that draft start playing in the NHL I’m sure I’ll hate it even more. That was suppose to be one of the deepest drafts in recent history, and we sent 2 quality picks for a Dman that was struggling in the AHL. But I guess they wouldn’t have know that because they admitted they never even watched him.

                      as long as we’ve been rebuilding, our prospect depth is pretty weak. That draft could’ve helped really stock our cupboards. I’m certain Chiarelli wouldn’t make that trade if he could go back

                    • DiscoBiscuits

                      I think our disagreement is the value of picks 16 +33. Statistically the 16th pick has about a 50% chance of playing over 150 NHL games, the 33rd about 35%. If we agree that last year’s draft was better than most maybe these % are higher but let’s not go overboard about their value.

                      Talking about Barzal is actually of no value as the Oil never take him, after McD PC drafted all Dmen, other than the 1 goalie. The more meaningful comparison might be how well Chabot (next Dman taken by the Sens at 16) and Carlo vs Reinhart.

                      I hope it is not an apparition but Reinhart’s games vs the Preds was solid and should give us some reason for optimism.

                    • Time Travelling Sean

                      Sounds reasonable to me. I’d take Chabot and Carlo over Reinhart aswell. Chabot Almost made the sens the first year out of his draft.

                      I realize there’s no point complaining about what’s done, but it’s fun tracking trades you don’t like. I’m sure Reinhart will become an everyday NHLer, and he did look ok last game. Fingers crossed I guess, but I still don’t like that trade

                    • Time Travelling Sean

                      And Reinhart would have made the Oilers last year if we had him then.

                      That trade is Chabot vs Reinhart with the 2nd rounder for the extra 2 years development that Reinhart has. At least how I see it.

                    • HardBoiledOil 1.0

                      Show me the quote that stated they didn’t even watch him. I don’t believe you. Chisrelli isn’t an idiot. I really don’t think he would trade two quality picks for a prospect he knew nothing about. Don’t make silly statements without sources to back you up.

                • HardBoiledOil 1.0

                  Barzal is putting up great numbers, but he can’t score goals. i’m still not losing much sleep over this guy, even though he likely wouldn’t have been the guy the Oilers picked if we had kept it.

                  and Carlo is hardly Marincin 2.0….he’s a hell of a lot more physical. i firmly believe this RD is indeed the guy the Oilers would have picked at #33 if we had kept it.

                • HardBoiledOil 1.0

                  Barzal is putting up great numbers, but he can’t score goals. i’m still not losing much sleep over this guy, even though he likely wouldn’t have been the guy the Oilers picked if we had kept it.

                  and Carlo is hardly Marincin 2.0….he’s a hell of a lot more physical. i firmly believe this RD is indeed the guy the Oilers would have picked at #33 if we had kept it.

            • For Pete's Sake!

              We all know that all of these draft picks have miles to go, but man, the way those picks are tracking we could be looking at a roster in 5 years with:

              McDavid as a franchise elite center
              4x 2nd/3rd line d men (Paigin, Reinhart, bear, jones) or some solid trade currency
              Starting goalie

              All from one draft. That’s a solid haul. Can’t remember if they forfeited one of the picks this year but that would be make it more impressive.

            • Spydyr

              Hall wins again outside the Oilers organization. How about that all star game best one since Gretzky decided his brother needed a new car.John Scott the hockey gods smiled on him today.

            • Puckluck

              Great for Scott, what a goal celebration.

              Cant wait for some of this depth to push for the NHL positions over the next 3 – 5 years, finally some first class roster depth.

            • Poke Check

              I know Matt Ford is only on am AHL contract and he’s 31, wow 31. He had size and can score in a very very good league, butches never played am NHL game, if like to see him get a few somewhere, you never know, either way he deserves and NHL game