The Monday Mailbag – “The closest Canadian team to a Stanley Cup”

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Welcome, welcome to another edition of your favourite call-in blog segment. This week we take a look at which Canadian team is closest to winning a Stanley Cup, whether or not Brossoit should be the backup next season, and which movie tells the Oilers story. If you have a question for next week you can email them to me, or hit me up on Twitter. I need questions. Do it. Until then, it’s time to learn something. Enjoy. 


1) AJ88 asks – Which Canadian team is closest to being a Stanley Cup contender and why?

Lowetide:

The Ottawa Senators. They have wasted a season piddling about trying to find six defensemen, obscuring their obvious and substantial gifts. Unforgivable, but if they can fix the D in the summer, Erik Karlsson could lead them deep in 2017. 

Jeanshorts:

Despite the absolute tire fire they’ve taken the form of since December, the Canadiens are probably closest to being a cup contender than everyone else. They have arguably the best goalie in the world, one of the top five defensemen in the world, and a solid mix of good, young players and solid veterans. I’m sure someone smarter than me could pinpoint where the Habs have gone wrong this season, but on paper they should be closer to the team we saw at the beginning of the year, not the one currently falling down a bottomless pit.

Jonathan Willis:

Montreal.  They’ve gone from having the best goaltending in the league most seasons to a 0.900 save percentage starter, and once Carey Price gets back that’s going to change. I also wonder to what degree the team would improve under a different coach; even if we limit the options to obvious names like Guiy Boucher there would seem to be room for improvement. This was a pretty good team not all that long ago.

Robin Brownlee:

This season? None of them are close. You’re asking to pick the best of a bad bunch of teams and none of them brings to mind the word Stanley Cup “contender.”

Jason Gregor:

I want to preface it by saying none are close today. I would say the Habs if Price was healthy are clearly the best team, but if you look at the history of generational players in the past 45 years: Orr, Gretzky, Lemieux, Lindros and Crosby they all made a Cup Final appearance and all of them won at least one Cup, except Lindros. So I’d say Oilers are second.

Jason Strudwick:

Throw a dart at a board! This isn’t an easy call to make. Two teams jump to the top of my mind: the Habs and Flames. With Carey Price anything is possible on any given night, and I really like the Flames’ top end defenseman. But at this point any of the groups could be the answer.

Matt Henderson

Closest to being a Cup contender? Yeesh. The Canadiens are terrible but they have a top tier defenseman and goalie. Carey Price alone is apparently the difference between an Oiler-like team and a playoff contender. If they find a quality centre then they have the pieces needed, I guess.

Baggedmilk:

Edmonton. McDavid. Good things will follow. 


2) Braden asks – Do you think the Oilers will sign another backup goalie for next season or will Laurent Brossoit get the job? Is it better for his development to practice with the Oilers and play occasionally, or get the bulk of the starts in Bakersfield?

Lowetide:

I think Peter Chiarelli will cast about looking for options. If a legit NHL goalie is available via free agency of a fair trade price, he may add that player. In my opinion the idea is to build the best 23-man roster possible. If Brossoit beats out the other goalies for the backup job, we will know he is ready. Handing it to him would be a mistake.

Jeanshorts:

I honestly think that Brossoit will legitimately challenge Talbot for the Oilers’ crease next year. And in my perfect scenario they run them as a 1A/1B platoon. HOWEVER, since my instincts are usually terrible and I’m always wrong what’s more likely to happen is the Oilers do go out and sign another replacement level goalie to back up Talbot (Chad Johnson on a cheap contract anyone?) and let Brossoit continue to progress in the AHL until they literally have no choice but to call him up because he’s outgrown that level. Yes, that means they fire Nilsson off into the sun AKA the KHL, which I don’t think anyone will be sad about, unless you consider the fact he brings up the handsomeness of the Oilers by quite a bit.

Jonathan Willis:

I don’t have the answer to what the Oilers will do; either course of action is plausible, particularly if they can find a competent backup on a cheap contract. Anton Khudobin, who played very well for Chiarelli in Boston, would seem like an obvious candidate for that kind of job. Generally I think minutes are good for development but Brossoit will be 23 next season and certainly looks NHL-ready.

Robin Brownlee:

Can’t say right now. As for development, it depends on the age of the goaltending prospect and where he’s at in his development. I’d lean toward having Broissoit spent another season in the AHL.

Jason Gregor:

I’d sign a veteran backup and have Brossoit start most games in the AHL. If he is lighting it up at Christmas I could recall him and send the veteran down to the AHL. I’d rather Brossoit play a lot, than play one out of every four games in the NHL.

Jason Strudwick:

I think having Brossoit back up next year makes sense. He is ready for that next step. There is a difference in quickness between the AHL and NHL and it will take time to adjust.

Matt Henderson

I would make him play in the AHL as the starter until he’s no longer waiver exempt and then he’s the backup. Might as well give him every chance to hone his craft before bringing him up.

Baggedmilk:

I think that Laurent Brossoit is probably ready to be the backup in Edmonton, but with Cam Talbot recently re-signed then maybe it makes more sense for him to keep playing huge minutes in the AHL. If he’s there for a full season, next season, then I would be surprised.


3) Dave in Detroit asks – People have often commented about the Oilers playing a better team game than they had in years past yet the results remain the same. Are the Oilers actually better than they have been in years prior?

Lowetide:

Their goaltending is better and I like their 5×5 offense, but the improvement overall is very small. Now, I cannot tell you how much of that is due to injury, and how much is due to other things like lack of balance in roster and players not playing to their max abilities. 

Jeanshorts:

You say the results are the same, but are they? As of right now (58 games into the season) the Oilers are only two wins away from tying their total for all of last season. And if the Oilers could find the gumption to lose half these one goal games in OT or the shootout, rather than in regulation, then they’d be in the same ballpark as the Canucks who are hoarding pity points like some kind of doomsday prepper.

I’ll concede that yes, it’s still been another fairly frustrating season thanks to a combination of losses, injuries, a non-existent power play for most of the season, among a host of other things. And I know everyone around here hates hearing about moral victories, but the fact is the Oilers have been more competitive this year than they have in the last like three seasons combined. Yes they’re losing, but they’re losing by one rather than four. They’re hanging around in games. They’re mounting comebacks — they’re still generally losing them anyway, but they’re at least forcing other teams’ hands rather than just folding up shop the second Ben Scrivens lets in the first two shots on goal like last year. It’s been a LONG, arduous process, but to me I can see the progress. The results will come along here shortly, guaranteed.

Jonathan Willis:

I think so. If nothing else, they’ve identified a starting goaltender and added McDavid and that’s quite a bit. I’d also argue with you about the results being the same. Standings position and wins/losses are the same, but goal differential has improved and that’s a very positive sign.

Robin Brownlee:

The results don’t remain the same. They’re ahead of their pace of last season and they’ve done it with significant long-term injuries to key players.

Jason Gregor:

They are better, but that isn’t saying much considering how bad they were before. Injuries have prevented them from being playoff competitive, and for me until they are in an actual playoff hunt in March this team really hasn’t improved. I do see signs where they are better, but their place in the standings hasn’t changed, so it is hard to say they’ve improved much.

Jason Strudwick:

Yes. I think they are improving. There was a ways to go. The details and consistency are missing. An example would be taking care of the front of your net. Todd has spoken about this often.

Matt Henderson

Yes. They are definitely better. People hate it when this gets mentioned because this team has been rotten for a decade, but the fortunes are different if McDavid, RNH, and Klefbom don’t all three suffer major injury. The Oilers might not yet be worthy of making the playoffs, but a healthy roster isn’t nearly as far out as they are today.

Baggedmilk:

The results in the standings are similar, I agree, but this is a different Oilers team than the one we’ve been watching for the last few years. The Oilers are in far more games, late into the game, than they have been in years. I’m not saying that they’re piling up wins, but the Oilers are definitely a better hockey club. 


4) Alex D. asks – Does Benoit Pouliot really take as many bad penalties as people are suggesting? It seems to me that he’s not the only forward that ends up in the box a little bit too often. 

Lowetide:

Great question. Benoit Pouliot (for me) takes a few more O-zone penalties, because he is also very aggressive on the forecheck and backcheck. I have no quarrel with Pouliot as a player, like him a lot.

Jeanshorts:

NOPE! He’s taken 14 minor penalties, which is only two more than he’s drawn, and is two less than Taylor Hall. And speaking of Taylor Hall he’s taken FIVE penalties while the Oilers have been on the power play, while Pouliot has taken zero. Pouliot does seem to have a knack for taking bad, offensive zone penalties at the worst possible time which does not help the appearance of him being a horrible penalty taker. But at this point he’s basically just become the newest target of Oiler fans ire due to losing, rather than him ACTUALLY being a huge detriment to the team (which he’s not).

Jonathan Willis:

He does take bad penalties, and a lot of times they’re such blatant mistakes that they really stand out in memory. That said, as of this writing he has 58 penalty minutes over two seasons with the Oilers and it’s not like his penalty differential is much worse than some other Edmonton forwards over that same span, so it probably does get more attention than it deserves relative to his considerable merits.

Robin Brownlee:

Ending up in the box for playing aggressively is one thing. Being there for selfish penalties — knocking the stick out of Ryan Kesler’s hands or sticking a guy in the groin 200 feet from your own net because you’re pissed off — is quite another. Pouliot takes too many of those.

Jason Gregor:

He doesn’t take a lot of penalties, but the ones he takes are often noticeable for the wrong reasons. I expect him to take a few offensive zone penalties every year because he is aggressive on the forecheck, but his penalties versus the Ducks were not a result of that. They were bad penalties, and the coach addressed it. I have no issue with a coach trying to instill a level of discipline. This team needs it in many areas of their game.

Jason Strudwick:

I always got frustrated with offensive zone penalties like hooking or holding. They are just plain dumb to take. Move your feet to catch up or just let him go. He isn’t the only one but for some reason his stand out. I am not in the camp of Oilers fans who think the team would be better off with out him.

Matt Henderson

He takes penalties in the offensive zone and that makes people crazy. He’s taken fewer penalties than Hall this year though, and he draws his fair share as well. He is a very aggressive forechecker. We don’t remember all the times that’s resulted in the play staying in the offensive zone but we sure remember when he crosses the line. He takes more penalties than others but his playing style will do that.

Baggedmilk:

He doesn’t necessarily take more penalties than his teammates but I do think that his penalties are more obvious. It seems like everyone call he gets against him is in the offensive zone, and I think that’s what people remember. Let’s not forget that he’s having a pretty solid season.

5) Sara B. asks – If the 2015-16 Oilers season was movie title what would it be?

Lowetide:

I Know What You DIDN’T do last summer.

Jeanshorts:

Triage.

Jonathan Willis:

Cool Hand Luke. It’s not that it’s a bad movie, or that it doesn’t have some really cool stuff going on. It’s just that a lot of characters suffer, Paul Newman breaks his collarbone misses the playoffs dies  and in the end not much changes.

Robin Brownlee:

50 Shades of Grey.

Jason Gregor:

Groundhog Day

Jason Strudwick:

The life of times of Helen Hunt

Matt Henderson

Team Of The Living Dead. The Hurt Locker Room. Groundhog Day. Pete and Todd’s Bogus Adventure. The Collarbone Collector.

Baggedmilk:

Gregor stole my answer so to come up with something different I’ll go with Kill Me Now

  • Jordan McNugent-Hallkins

    Say Chia trades Hall and/or Nuge. Does he keep Eberle for the McDavid synergy? I’ll agree he’s more like a $4-$5 million player today, but I think McDavid would elevate his numbers enough to justify the $6 million contract.

    They really do look great playing together, and Ebs has the skill to finish off a lot of the seeing-eye plays McDavid sets up.

    • Jordan McNugent-Hallkins

      Yes, keep Ebs with Connor and also Hall with Dr Drai.
      The Nuge and Yaks can go to top bidders. Get a top Dman for them. Trade our top 1-5 pick and get another top pairing Dman.

      • MorningOwl

        You think you get a top D-man for Nuge & Yak? come one, be serious.

        Yak is closer to a bust than to an elite player that can garner a top flite D-man.

        Now this years first round pick definitely has significant value… and a good player/prospect/1st-pick combo that included Hall or Nuge or Ebs, plus a good prospect like Nurse, plus the pick, would likely get the Oilers a #1 D. anything less, and you’ll be getting a #3/4 D.

        • OILFANMEXICO

          So you would trade Hall,Nurse PLUS potentially Austin Mathews for a #1 Defenceman? Chiarelli would be forcibly escorted out of the city if he made that trade, even if it was for Karlsson!

  • @S_2_H

    I don’t really care about whether an American or Canadian team wins the Cup. I’ll worry about national pride in the Olympic tournaments. Hopefully the NHL participates in the 2018 Olympics. The World Cup with a Team Europe and a Young Stars team pales in comparison.

    • Jay (not J)

      CBC kicked up that whole ‘cheer for the last Canadian team standing’ business in a sad sac attempt to get people to watch playoff games they really in their heart of hearts don’t give a wet turd about. It hurts me that the Oilers haven’t won a Cup since I was in highschool. The fact that the rest of Canada is in the same boat (just about, I was out of hs in ’93) makes it easier to swallow.

  • MorningOwl

    The closest Canadian team to a cup…

    Vancouver is going to get worse before they get better, as they are finally forced to admit it’s rebuild time.

    Toronto is going scorched earth in their new rebuild like Edmonton did, and will likely be bad for a while as a result

    Jet’s won’t admit it but the Canadian dollar is hurting their ability to work to the cap and sign players… retooling is the name of the game there

    Edmonton; the recent reported attempts to trade the overpriced pieces of the first round of rebuilding plus many years of getting worse, combined with current projections to finish bottom 2 or 3 in the league yet again suggest a NEW rebuild in Edmonton is underway with the new (Albeit much better) management…

    Habs are clearly struggling with internal problems, and will need to clean up the issues

    The Flames on the other hand are a team who is finishing their third successful season of rebuilding, and look to be ahead of the rest of the group (in the rebuild curve). With some significant young talent on both offense and defense, and more to come this draft, an acquisition of a league average or better goalie will make the Flames the closest to contending for the next little while.

    This isn’t to suggest ANY Canadian team will be contending in the next few years – just an honest reflection on where each team is.

      • MorningOwl

        an unbiased assessment (something we both honestly have difficulty with given our allegiances) would conclude that the Flames have been successful so far, and are on track with their rebuild. We don’t need to argue whether the Oil have been successful – we all know where that is at. Oil have nade great strides this year, even if it doesn’t feel like that – but the Flames have also made great strides in their rebuild.

        This isn’t a “my team is better, your team sucks” fan statement… it just is what it is. Flames have had some luck (?) to get a couple of elite players in the later rounds (or undrafted) like Gio, Brodie, and Gaudreau, plus have a couple others projecting very well (Monahan, Bennett) and also have some very interesting prospects in the system (Kylington/Rasmus Anderson)

        Oilers need 2 or 3 top D, good goal-tending, and time for younger guys to develop (Nurse/Drai)

        Flames need good goal tending and continued development…

        • 5 Cups

          I am not stating that one team is better than the other. Just stating a fact.

          The flames have done nothing to indicate that they are on the right track. Last year could have been a statistical blip on the growth chart.

          • MorningOwl

            last year definitely WAS a statistical blip…

            I’m not going to sit here and try to talk about Flames… so will not respond to that. Just making an honest assessment of both teams rebuilds.

    • “The Flames on the other hand are a team who is finishing their third successful season of rebuilding”

      10 points out of a playoff spot and 5 points away from last place in the NHL. KEEP NAILING IT CALGARY!!

        • Hockeyfan

          Oil fans can look forward to setting playoff futility record next year in their new arena. Continue losing culture for at least 4 more years and will likely get Auston. Gonna cost the oil the 1st and a hall or eberle for premium dman. I feel sorry for oiler fans, year after year after year of no heart, nonphysical play. Eberle and Hopkins are pu**ies and need a good leader who will not tolerate scared hockey. Your dmen are useless and can’t or won’t do anything about clearing the front of their net.Good luck oil, YOU ARE GONNA NEED IT. Next year Calgary goes to third round without a single #1, nevermind 5. OIL = Joke of NHL.

  • Jordan McNugent-Hallkins

    Oilers site article ‘Mis-communication hurting Oilers…how about zero communication hurting the Oilers, especially the D-corps. The lack of communication probably is an indictment of the D coaching.

  • Jay (not J)

    The next Canadian team to win a Stanley Cup will be the Oilers. There is not a doubt in my mind. Sure we’ve been farting around the bottom of the league forever, but the other teams have been farting around the middle of the pack. Whenever a team has stepped up, they’ve come short and regressed the following seasons (I’m looking at Ottawa and Van)or been exposed as just another Habs team trying to go further than their ‘get the best goalie and damn the rest’ model will take them. The Oilers might have the furthest to go, but they’re the only team working in the right direction.

      • Jay (not J)

        I hope that chuckle comforts you when you’re watching the Oilers hoist their next Stanley Cup while your coach is being fired and your GM is asking your half empty building to be patient.

        • Jay (not J)

          Honestly Jay we have no right to talk about being the next cup winners or trending in the right direction. The lockout year was the only year we trended in the right direction. If the season was to end today, the Oilers would be last in the league, worse than last season so as far as I’m concerned, Oilers are trending the wrong way.

          • Jay (not J)

            Right schmight. None of these teams look good – none of them are ‘trending in the right direction’ Which team’s roster would you prefer to have going forward? There isn’t a competitive team in Canada. The Oilers are having another disappointing season and it’s very easy to wallow in that. There isn’t a Canadian team threatening for a playoff spot even this season and they’re going to be Cup contenders next year or the year after? 1 Canadian team will be, yes, but the rest will remain what they are and where they are as they have for 20 odd years. It will be that much sweeter.

          • Ladi

            Besides Connor, not a single player on the Oilers roster can be defended. If the Oilers keep the roster the same then no they will not be contenders.

            I agree with you that I would rather have the Oilers roster than any other in Canada but that is only due to Connor, and because the core can be traded to bring in the right pieces. But the Oilers have shown me nothing to prove that they will be cup contenders. I have finally lost all hope and until I see progress, I refuse to believe any chatter about trending in the right direction.

            A team has to become annual shoe-in for playoffs before they can be cup contenders.

            Flames with their D core, Habs with Price, Sens with their D core, and the Jets due to the pieces they have and upcoming talent are all ahead of the Oilers today in terms of trending in the right direction.

          • Jay (not J)

            All of those teams you have as trending in the right direction are finishing worse this season than they did last. That is your battered Oiler fan syndrome talking. It’s OK. It’s not going to happen or not happen because of something written here.

          • Jay (not J)

            Yes you are correct that it will not have anything to do with what is written here. But all of those teams have less holes than we do.

            I am going to assume you are someone who still believes the core of Hall Nuge and Ebs is fine and no one should be traded?

          • Jay (not J)

            Why are you going to assume that? It is going to take some changes to improve. Even John Shannon has identified that point. I do not believe that the fact that changes have not been made yet means that they won’t be made and I think that this is the conclusion that many of us leap to. It’s understandable, this season has been unbearable as a fan and the flashes of brilliance have almost made the rest of it seem worse. Being patient has been the sucker’s cry here for too long. Things are going to happen though. The next 6 months are going to see significant changes and a significant addition who is not under 20 years old. (ore else what’s the point, right?)

          • Kevwan

            Yeah this season has been really unbearable and I would hope that major drastic change happens. A significant addition will cost a significant price but it will improve the team. I believe there is almost 0% chance that the Oilers play their first game at the new barn with all 3 of Hall, Ebele, and Nuge as Oilers.

          • Jay (not J)

            If they start next season with all 3 and without making serious improvements on the blue line I will eat my hat, rescind everything I’ve said and change my handle to Seriously Verdad from Lethbridge. I honestly believe that Chiarelli is going to do what it takes to ensure that doesn’t happen though.

        • R U Kidding Me!

          Are you for real Hockeyfan??? The Oilers are so far away from hoisting anything but the Draft Lottery Win Cup its a joke.
          Won’t happen in your lifetime even though you are only 10.

          • Jay (not J)

            I’m not Hockeyfan and I’m not 10. I am liking your prediction for the Oilers though, but only because you seem to be the consistently wrong sort of guy.

  • Oilerz4life

    Trade anyone and everyone for solid D for god sakes already. Just keep the centers, solid D we do have and goaltending in place. Hall, Eberle, no matter. Teams don’t revolve around wingers and McD could turn any complimentary scoring winger into an allstar so just stop the bleeding already. Why does everyone get their panties in a knot about trading away “the core”. If we are still losing with the talent and goaltending we have the problem is obviously defense so just shake the team up already and get a solid defensive core together. 10 years. What a joke.

  • Oilerz4life

    And the Flames are the best mediocre team in the league. The kings of mediocrity. Stanley Cup? Please. Not a chance. Watching the Ducks systematically dismantle the Flamers was pure gold. Stanley Cup? That’s laughable. Can’t believe it would even come up on the ON. Sorry Strudwick. Never happen.

  • freelancer

    In other news, Toronto and San Jose may have just set the bar for trade deadline prices. Polak and Spalding for 2017/2018 2nd round picks?! Purcell should garner at least a 2nd by this logic.

  • You just got LITT up!

    I can’t wait for the day that people stop claiming that the oilers are better because we lost by 1 goal and not 5! Hahahah. Year 10 and we’re visually better. What time does the bar open? Classic oilers.

  • Andresito

    Bill Murray wakes up hearing his alarm clock. “The oilers are proud to select Auston Matthews!”

    Bill Murray and Oiler fans think.. kill me..kill me now.

    • Jay (not J)

      This makes me sad. Just trade anyone on the team for whomever will get the Oilers to win more game next year. Right now I could care less who stays or goes. If McDavid could be moved for pieces that allow the Oilers to be contenders for the next decade then freaken do it!

      That’s obviously a crazy idea but at this point I’m hoping the organization is wiling to trade or do whatever it takes to start winning some freaken games!

      • MorningOwl

        The injuries this season have crippled this team, losing Oscar Klefbom, Conner Mcdavid, Ryan Nugent Hopkins, Nail Yakupov, for significant periods of time. It’s not an excuse but its a factor. The fans here need to be patient, because they have the proper management in place.

  • Andresito

    Just seeing the trashes on the comments posted above, it is obvious that the defenders of the core are up early this morning.

    Don’t trade any of Hall, Nuge, or Eberle because they have won so much since being here. They will definitely lead us to the playoffs, who needs D when you have 3 wonder kids.

      • Jay (not J)

        At what point will we stop making excuses. Listen to TSN 1260 right now, they discussing how the core has to be changed.

        You are right, the Oilers have not been good since Nuge went down but hey how have the Oilers been the last 5 seasons when Nuge has been healthy?

        • Mike Krushelnyski

          Agreed. I’m not going to call out the “character” of people I’ve never met, but clearly the mix isn’t right.

          I don’t think any reasonable fan had the Oilers in the playoffs this year, but we were expecting improvement and to land in the 85 point range. It looks like we’ll be lucky to crack 70 points this year. Hugely disappointing. Improving by 25 points to get into the playoffs isn’t going to be accomplished by tinkering with the lineup. It’s time to get out the sledgehammer and blowtorch and tear the thing down.

  • Hockeyfan

    Is it possible for any of the bloggers to track the performance of 2017 Draft eligible players projected to go top 5. Nolan Patrick looks like a future Selke two-way player.

    I ask because the Oilers will likely be drafting top 5 again since that’s all we are good at.

  • ubermiguel

    The Habs will contend soon. All New Jersey needed for their Cups was a superstar goalie, one fantastic defenceman, and an ok group of forwards.

    The Oilers 246 man-games lost to key players is a killer. If we had the same 109 man-games lost as Calgary no doubt we’d be ahead of them. That’s still pretty lousy, but better than Calgary is better than Calgary.

  • Ladi

    I’m always amazed at how many people on here spend so much time in Chiarelli’s office, or tapping his phone line maybe? Has anyone considered that trading Schultz and Nikitin isn’t as easy as posting a comment on an Oilers forum? Or maybe Arizona just doesn’t want to trade OEL?
    As frustrating as the last ten years have been, this is Chiarelli’s first year with the team, and he has a brand new coaching staff and a group of players he’s hardly seen prior to this year. Give the man a break, I’m sure he’s not sitting in his office playing solitare all day waiting for a trade to fall on his lap.

    • MrBung

      Said it before, and I’ll say it again. He has the best job in the NHL. All of the other GMs are expected to try and improve their team. If they don’t, fans stop coming. PC takes a 28th place team to 30th and fans continue to fill Rexall no matter what.

  • Jay (not J)

    A lot of professional writers, fans, and bloggers were suggesting that a new coach with experience would really help this team.

    Early in the year I would not have believed them, but now I totally believe them. TM has these guys playing the correct way……..we have move moved from the 28th place team to the 30th placed team.

    Everything is better.

  • Jay (not J)

    The Oilers, cup contenders????? LMFA hahsha. You homer bums are dreaming. With the leafs beer league line up they still have more points then Mcdavid and the mighty Oil. The oil will never make the playoffs and Mcdavid will bounce to the leafs as soon as he can

  • .

    If the Oilers season were a movie title it’d be one of many, including . . .

    The Song Remains the Same

    Whiskey Tango Foxtrot

    An Inconvenient Truth

    Same Time Next Year

    Gone With the Wind

    There Will be Blood

    The 400 Blows

    Dead Pool

    Bad Boys

    Déjà Vu

    Titanic

    Blow

    Suck

    WTF!

  • Jay (not J)

    Do you have a life?

    Actually?

    I mean, you post to ON within the first 5 posts as well as FN, from what it looks like. Whats the point with constantly arguing with people on ON? or FN for that matter? Go outside.. Get a hobby, damn dude. Theres more to life then hockey forums.

    I love reading the articles, but scroll down and its “jerry of the day” all the time with you

    • MorningOwl

      First of all, MY posts on this thread are much more positive about the Oilers than many of the Oilers fans posting here…

      secondly, everyone has the right to post here. Clicks are the name of the game and sorry to say but to paying customers (advertisers) my clicks are as valuable as yours.
      most articles i don’t even bother to post on, (check yourself and report back with the % why don’t you) but obviously I have gotten into your head as you are always trying to engage me and make rude, childish snide remarks about me.

      whatever… your rudeness and name calling says a lot about you and nothing about me – a universal truth that applies to guys like you that always resort to personal attacks.

      Third, while you used a different name to post this, everyone knows who you are… why be a coward and say such stupid stuff and not use your real name? Everyone knows who you are even with your fake name.

      fourth – your mocking me for posting here but you are posting here as well… like you do on most of the articles on FN so, i guess you need to get out, get a job, take a walk, or get a hobby too? You troll FN all the time, have even been banned…

      I try to keep my trolling at an acceptably respectful, fun-in-a-bitter-rivalry kind of way. i don’t get into personal name calling unlike you… and I do not try to hijack a thread, unlike you.

      I actually watch Oilers games almost as much as i do flames games… isn’t hockey and rivalry great?

      If you feel the need to make personal attacks on people because of your sports habits, maybe you need to take a look at yourself and see if things are a little out of control.

      • Jordan McNugent-Hallkins

        You kind of sound like Oiler fans five years ago. “We’re a basement team right now, but we’re on the right track.” Be wary you don’t fall into this trap, it’s not a lot of fun.

        Might as well fire up Rebuild 4: McDrainursebom edition.

  • MrBung

    The Oilers are dead last in the league. And behind Toronto somehow even though the Leafs are arguably running a worse lineup.

    That says it all. This team/organization is still a tire fire. This team has improved in all the areas except the one that matters – in the NHL standings.

    It doesn’t matter if your team is “improving” if all of your competition is improving at a rate faster than you are or are already light years ahead.

  • Kevwan

    I think it’s obvious by the Oilers actions that LB will be in Bakersfield next year.

    If they had any intention of letting him compete for a NHL job he would have gotten multiple starts after his callup. One start because Talbot was sick and then back to the AHL says a lot.

    Decent NHL calibre backup goaltending is plentiful and affordable. It’s a nice change to see this kind of patience with a prospect.

  • Kevwan

    How is it that ALL the Canadian teams are out of the play offs and Hockey havens like Carolina,Arizona,Florida make the playoffs or at least in contention.?

    Do we all hire incompetent management.?

  • Jay (not J)

    Eberle or RNH salaries make them untradeable.

    They each make 6M per season.

    Other players make: Tavares- 5.5, Sequin – 5.75, Benn – 5.275, Kesler – 5.0, Neal – 5.0, Wheeler – 5.6, Duchene – 6.0, Bergeron – 6.5 and the list goes on and on as to good players making 6.0m or less.

    RNH or Eberle will not get a top pairing defenseman. Maybe Hall might but he probably wont either due to cap restrictions.

    • camdog

      Among the best things the Oilers have going right now is Hall’s contract. At another 4 years at 6 million it’s a good deal for any club in the league. If you are trading a good d-man you wouldn’t have any problems absorbing that contract.

    • 5 Cups

      RNH, Eberle or Hall will not fetch a top pairing defenseman.

      Top defensemen – Subban, Karlsson, Burns, Klngerg, Josi, Seabrooke, Keith, Suter, Weber, Hedman, etc.

      No GM would make that trade.

      Oilers best hope is to develop Klefbom and nurse and in the mean time obtain a few more 2nd pairing defensemen like Sekera so at least we will have a chance.

    • AJ88

      Cherry pickin again….why would you leave out Kesler 6.87M, Getzlaf 8.25M, Perry 8.625M, Spezza 7.5M, Krejci 7.25M, O’Reilly 7.5M, E Stahl 8.25M, Campbell 7.14M, Parise 7.5M, Koivu 6.75M, Nash 7.8M, Stepan 6.5M, Ryan 7.25M, Voracek 8.25M, Stastny 7.0M, Backstrom 6.7M, Sedins 7.0 M and many more over 6M.

      Not tradeable, do not agree.

  • R U Kidding Me!

    Start with your untouchables , whoever they are then build. Problem is we got saddled with to many $5.5 and up players and $4-5.5 players let alone the $1.8-4 million group. We have very few $500k- to $1.8 group . For me our true value players are McDavid , Hall, Davidson , Gryba, Lander,Yak and Hendricks , Leon,Klefbom