Hall trade: It is based on Hope

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Oilers general manager Peter Chiarelli admitted the Edmonton Oilers traded away the best player in today’s Taylor Hall for Adam Larsson deal.

“That’s a fair comment, if you look at just what they’ve accomplished so far in the league,” said Chiarelli. “Larsson doesn’t have the same pedigree yet, but I believe in him a lot. He moves the puck quickly. He’s very smart,” continued Chiarelli.

He must like him a lot to trade the league’s third best left winger, behind Jamie Benn and Alex Ovechkin, and there is no denying Chiarelli took a big risk.

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Some call this a Bold move, but I’d rather not use that word considering its past history to the Oilers and transactions. I call it a move of Hope.

Here are my thoughts on the trade.

  • I’m not stunned Hall was traded, I sense the organization didn’t like him, which is idiotic, but I’m surprised this was the return. Proven RD are rare commodities, but so are forwards who can drive the play themselves. Larsson has steadily improved, but at this point he isn’t a proven top-pairing defender. He is tracking to be one, but proven and projection are very different at the NHL level. Hall is clearly the better player. Oilers lost this trade.
  • Chiarelli is hoping Larsson continues to develop and becomes a steady top-pairing D-man. He will never be flashy, and the best-case scenario I can see would be Marc-Edouard Vlasic. Vlasic doesn’t get a lot of attention, but he’s an excellent defender. And everyone knows the Oilers need D-men who can defend. If Larsson becomes Vlasic Chiarelli will be applauded mightily.
  • Vlasic might even be too high of a comparable because Larsson has played a total of 51:40 on the PP over the past four seasons. He plays mainly EV and SH. In 2014/2015 he did manage 24 EV/SH points, which was tied for 27th most among NHL defenders. Vlasic has predominately been a 20-25 point defender, but he has had a 36 and 39-point seasons.
  • The most interesting stat I uncovered about Larsson wasn’t even about him. During his rookie season he played 106:45 on the PP. As mentioned above he’s only played 51:40 on PP since. Mark Fayne led the Devils in PP minutes that year playing 123 minutes. The Devils blueline PP options in 2012/2013 were not great.
  • Maybe Larsson becomes Niklas Hjarlmarsson. An excellent defender, who only plays EV and SH and doesn’t produce many points. He’d still be a valuable asset. Ask Hawks fans how important Hjalmarsson was on their Cup winning teams? Just remember if he maxes out as Hjalmarsson, don’t be upset at Larsson. He didn’t make the trade. He should not be compared to Hall, even though they were traded for one another.
  • Don’t expect many points from Larsson and your chances of being not disappointed will be much better. “He logs a lot of minutes. He can match up against the top players. He has more offence to give,” said Chiarelli. The last line is very true.
  • Larsson will have a better chance to produce at EV with the Oilers because he’ll be passing to McDavid, Draisaitl, RNH and Eberle. McDavid could get him four or five assists from below the hashmarks in the defensive zone. Larsson does move the puck quickly, and that could be one of his biggest assets to the Oilers. However, very few D-men put up a lot of points in Edmonton with Hall and Eberle producing the 24th and 25th most points in the NHL the past five seasons. You need to have some good offensive instincts to be a point-producing defender. Larsson hasn’t shown much offensive creativity to this point.
  • I heard many suggest Chiarelli was trading from a position of weakness because everyone knew he needed a RD. Weren’t the Devils in the same position, looking for a proven offensive player? Chiarelli chose to make this trade, because he recognized the need to improve defensively. It was a risk, but I don’t buy the notion he was the only one in a position of weakness.
  • I don’t agree with the suggestion Chiarelli had to address the blueline and because of Connor McDavid and the other forwards sacrificing Hall to improve the D corps was a necessity. It is true they needed to improve the blueline, but this was a very risky move. I’m not sure he had to make it now, but I understand the urgency to improve his blueline instead of doing nothing, but replacing Hall will not be easy. I’d say it will be almost impossible to find a left-winger who can drive a line like Hall.
  • Hall can drive his own line. He doesn’t need to play with McDavid to produce points or create scoring chances. Milan Lucic (who we expect will sign a contract on Friday) offers a unique skillset, but he’s not a driver of a line. He’ll likely play with McDavid, and have success, but Hall’s departure means Leon Draisaitl or Ryan Nugent-Hopkins will have to drive the second line. Maybe they are ready, but again, that is based on hope, not a guarantee like Hall.
  • The Oilers would likely have improved next year even if this trade didn’t happen. A healthy Connor McDavid and Oscar Klefbom will make them much better next year. Adding Jesse Puljujarvi gives them better depth on the RW. Darnell Nurse will be improved and if Brandon Davidson stays healthy all year and plays the same as last season they are automatically better.
  • Larsson is in a much better position coming to Edmonton than Hall was six years ago. Larsson will have many more competent players around him. If he just plays to his strengths, and gets sheltered if, or when, needed he should be okay.
  • Hall played hard when he was here. He showed up. The organization wanted him to be the saviour, but they never protected him or surrounded him with quality players, especially on the blueline. I still don’t understand those who felt Hall was the problem. Some people just want to blame someone I guess, and instead of pointing the finger at incompetent management they incorrectly pointed to Hall. Hall was devastated when he heard the news. He wanted to be here. He finally saw some light at the end of the dark tunnel, but he’ll have to taste success elsewhere. I expect Hall to have great success in New Jersey. He produced points on a bad team, in a tough conference, and while the Devils aren’t a great team, they have an excellent goalie and they play in a weaker conference. I won’t be surprised to see him in the top-ten in scoring again.
  • Chiarelli will need to make some other astute moves to avoid this dealing backfiring on him. I’d be surprised if this trade is ever looked at as even equal, but if Chiarelli makes some other moves and this team becomes a playoff team the deal could be looked at differently by some. I see it purely as a Hope trade. Chiarelli is hoping Larsson becomes the solid top-pairing defender he believes he is. I can appreciate his yearning to improve his blueline, but, man, this was a risky move.
  • What stood out most for me in Chiarelli’s presser about the trade was his comment about needing to find a PP D-man. Jason Demers is not that guy. He has 41 career PP points in seven seasons. His career high came in his rookie season when he tallied 11 points on the PP. Does he have another trade up his sleeve? Can he afford to “lose” another trade, and still improve the team?
  • Darren Dreger mentioned on radio Lucic might be getting a seven-year deal from the Oilers. Yikes. If you thought people were angry today, wait until Friday if a seven year deal is announced.

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  • OilBlood

    Gregor – just because you were friends with Hall doesn’t mean he wasn’t a cancer and didn’t have character issues.

    It may look like a clear cut loss for the Oilers but like Montreal in Subban there was more to this than just hope. Where there’s smoke there is fire. Old management saw it and after a year chia and Tmac saw it. The turning point was that game where Tmac kicked hall to the end of the bench, the writing was on the wall. Hall is uncoachable and plays more for the name on the back than the crest on the front.

    Anybody listen to his conference call after the trade? I thought I was listening to a spoiled 10 year old throwing a tantrum because everyone should have loved him and heaven forbid he not be considered the main part of the fix.

    Oilers are a better team today on and off the ice.

    • BubbaZanetti

      Couldn’t agree more.
      Don’t understand why these guys get so upset because someone “questions ” Hall’s character ?
      This stuff is real. You think they shipped out Subban because he can’t play ?
      This locker room stuff has been floating around for a couple of years.
      Chiarelli and McClelland spent the year assessing the team, and would know better than anyone including Mr Gregor.
      They can spin it however they want, but there’s more to it than just a hockey deal ?
      To conclude, it’s not about the name on the back, it’s about the crest on the front, and players who come together as a TEAM !

    • 24_McClelland

      You can spin it any way you like, the Oilers were taken out behind the shed in this trade.

      As for Hall, I had a similar experience in my work life. I was offered a ‘lateral transfer’ to another position in my company after performing well, giving more than coworkers in order to do a job that I loved very well. I wasn’t going to lose salary or benefits, but I was going to a different team in the company. I took this personally, and when you give all you have and you want to see it though…that’s what happens. I don’t blame Hall one bit.

      That’s a guy who I want on my team at 24 years old, top 3 LW in the league (with more upside), good contract. Frigging Milan Lucic and a couple 2nd pairing D who don’t produce 5×5 or on the PP aren’t going to replace that. If you’re trading Hall, you trade him for that RH D you NEED. If needed, you add pieces with Hall. I’d rather be looking at Hall + going out the door for Subban than what transpired yesterday. Now they roll with Lucic at #1 LW, who has peaked in his career already, and will give him 3 years of term that they shouldn’t…..and additionally even if they sign Demers they STILL won’t have a 1st pairing RH D who can produce and run a PP.

      Oilers are not a better team today on the ice, and you have no frigging idea in terms of off the ice.

  • This.Is.NHL

    The problem I have is sometimes in a game it needs a spark and someone to step up and Hall was always the guy to do that, Hall was never on my trade list this year and watching him In warm-up his shots had meaning, it’s a big loss to the Oilers and our young players now I’m afraid with Ebs having a bigger role in being a leader to our young guys mite start floting more often.

    The pros to the trade are, we have one less first overall so when we do lose its less embarrassing, second, we have a 23 year old right shot RHD.

  • Bubba Train

    By the way Gregor, I find nothing wrong with telling it like it is and holding Oilers management accountable. Years of fan base suffering deserves accountability.

    • OILFANMEXICO

      Lucic is not coming here? WTF MAN! Wishful thinking? Putting a curse on us? Armchair G.M. inside knowledge? Pouting over the trade?

      P.S.- Iv’e personally wanted Lucic here for years, one of a handful of guys that make you earn your space on the ice and doesn’t care about who he attacks(Scott Stevens-ish). Sick of seeing the Oilers lose board battles for 10 years straight, time to go from boys to men.

  • Explicit

    I sorta kinda somewhat disagree with the title of this article because that’s all I’ve read so far. I say it’s based on history and a desperate need to improve. I don’t like the trade, but we have a better team now. It stinks of desperation and there’s no way you can spin this that would make the oilers win this trade short of Larssen becoming the next Lidstrom, but I don’t think they’re hoping he does. This simply fills a need they were desperate to fill that I can only hope they weren’t able to fill any other way.

    Bottom line for me .. I have a better chance of not watching a bottom feeder next year even tho they made a desperate move and gave up one of the best wingers in the world.

    This trade sucks. Would’ve much rather got Hamilton last year, Jones mid year or even Gudbranson at year end. But desperate teams make desperate moves and the best I can say is atleast we finally got a RHD

    • L

      We got a RHD for taylor hall, that really isn’t proven yet. These gambles can flush a team out. Don’t like it. Jultz played 20+ minutes a night for us and minutes mean jack. +15 is a plus. But that’s mostly played in the eastern conference. I refuse to believe the team is better until proven otherwise

  • Masma

    Jason

    I’m sure every GM makes a trade based on hope. hoping that it helps their team

    you don’t want to say bold fine say risk , but better risk a piece that you can afford than to risk nothing, keep Hall and HOPE your not in 30th again or 29th same dif.

    yes he over paid , but that’s what it took today. Chia gave up the better player to make the team better. sounds like the man made a calculated move .

    I liked the risky move he made today plus 15 player against the top lines in the league , Vs minus 27 playing on the second line .

    • Serious Gord

      Good point.

      Does anyone have Reinhart pencilled in in the top two d pairings next year? Top three? He should at least be at a solid 3rd d pairing at this point for the piece that was paid.

      Still makes me shudder that chia has Mact and howson at his side.

  • Rusty Patenaude

    Yes it is a trade based on hope…what trade isn’t? Straight up, nobody trades an elite defenceman ESPECIALLY a rh defenceman for an elite winger. And here is a little clue for you all, Hall is not among the top tier of left wingers in the NHL, he is just below that level. Don’t have an aneurysm because I stated the obvious. He has made zero all-star teams, he was passed over for team Canada. Why? Because he is the best? Please spare me! Hall has never broken 30 goals. 5 players drafted after Hall in 2010 have…FIVE. He is good, I liked him a lot…but he is not the God Oiler fans are making out to be. The only way we were going to trade for an elite rh defenceman was to correctly project that a young, not quite there yet guy will become that guy. No, we didn’t win the trade in the short run. No there is no guarantee that Larsson will be an elite #1…he probably won’t. But I think there is good reason to HOPE that he significantly improves the team.

    I just beg you all not to pull the same crap you unleashed on Justin Schultz…heaping unrealistic expectations on him and taunting Larsson until he loses all his confidence. Give the guy some time to develop, don’t expect miracles and we will probably see a pretty good player develop…one who will help to make McDavid shine a little brighter.

    • Moneyball1976

      What crap like the diatribe your blew out trashing Hall? Time to face facts this is a desperate move that did not have to happen. There is just a much chance larsson is riding the Nikitin train to the KHL as there is that he becomes an elite defenceman.

      Better management would have made a deal that did not have so much risk. Larsson is a hail mary pass at best.

      Does Chiarelli remind anyone else of Danny Machocia?

      • Seanaconda

        I don’t think he meant the all star game team but the actual all star team that is voted on at the end of the year. I think the only time hall would of made it is that year they managed to vote ovechkin in twice.

    • Ronr68

      Thank you for saying this. To be fair though, Oiler fans weren’t the only ones with unreal expectations regarding Schultz. Hall is a good player, but did he make anyone better for playing with him? Larsson gives us a defenseman who can actually play defense. He can also make a first pass or skate the puck out. If Lucic is in the bag this was a good deal. NJ got the better player but the trade made the Oilers a better team.

  • You just got LITT up!

    I appreciate the people trying to justify this trade, “oh, larrson’s good … He’s a #2”. I personally don’t buy it. I think Chia got bent over on this deal and it will haunt the oilers. I agree the oilers needed to do something and moving hall was that something, but that return???? Wow. My question- what’s the rush? The draft is finished, free agency starts tomorrow. You can’t tell me the return for hall would’ve been worse after July 1st. So why not wait till closer to the season?

    • OILFANMEXICO

      If you look at previous years most notable/top tier players are traded long before July 5th.

      Also, take into account, there are NO legit #1 RHD available this year, especially just for Halls services.

      I doubt Hall, Nuge and Ebs would get you Subban, yesterday proves this. Bonafide stud for bonafide stud when your talking RHD.This is why Doughty, Karlsson etc. will never be traded(Worth their weight in gold!).

      • Ed in Edmonton 1

        I’d wager a lot of people yesterday were saying that Subban and Weber* would never be traded. let alone both on the same day. never say never.

        * only because Omark is apparently no longer available.

  • tkfisher

    I’ve been optimistic the past 10 years. For the past 10 years i’ve said we’re getting better, we will be good soon; just wait. We’re getting closer to being good and i’ve held out hope and been positive.

    Now we’ve traded an elite player for a good player and have gotten worse because of it. Suddenly, I can’t say we got better today. For me this is the darkest day of the rebuild (now officially on version 3.0 – Gagner wave, Hall wave, and now McDavid wave). After all of the horrible management decisions, poor trades, draft errors, botched development of prospects, mishandling of assets, mishandling of Dmen, signing the wrong players, going after the wrong free agents and narrowly missing, and releasing the wrong players. I’ve finally, finally lost hope and trust in management and my earliest memory of the Oilers was the Gretzky trade. For the last ten years, being bad WAS the plan and I understood. Now I feel like they’re trying to get better and are making things worse. I’m not sure what to say anymore. Hope is fading, and hope is all fans have had for the past decade. I don’t trust the men running the ship at the top or the bottom. And honestly, for the first time in my life I’m starting to feel indifference. That is more scary to me than managerial incompetence.

  • Zarny

    Chiarelli just got shawshanked worse than Andy Dufresne in the laundry room. He choked just like last year with Reinhart. That isn’t “bold” it’s dumb.

    The Oilers are worse today, not better. They had two lines that could drive possession and play; now they have 1. There is no way to shield McDavid now; he’s the only player on the Oilers you have to worry about. Draisaitl was terrible away from Hall last year; get ready for a big dose of regression from 29. 3 scoring lines? Try 1.

    And all for a 2nd pair, middling defenseman with no offensive upside whose been a healthy scratch several times over the last couple of seasons.

    If telling yourself Hall was a cancer or that Larsson might develop into Hedman helps you sleep at night go nuts. Hall wasn’t a cancer and Larsson isn’t even in the same zip code as Hedman. Never will be.

    The Oilers have been the worst run organization in pro sports for the last decade and it was on full display yesterday. If you are still an Oilers fan next year I feel for you. It won’t be fun.

    • Huh, and you’re usually so empiric.

      Couple of questions:

      Do you really think a second line of Pouliot, Nuge, Draisaitl won’t drive play? Sure, maybe not as much as if Hall was on the line, but to say they can’t make another single scoring line out of Pouliot, Nuge, Draisaitl, Yak, Puljujarvi seems a bit pessimistic.

      You say Draisaitl was terrible away from Hall last year. When did that happen? Ever? If so those are minuscule sample sizes. Both Hall and Draisaitl were streaky last year. Saying otherwise is just untrue. Maybe if Draisaitl doesn’t have to match up against the toughest competition on a nightly basis, he can do a little better.

      Can you really say Larsson is second pair given his stats last year? 22+ min a night. Toughest zone starts AND toughest competition amongst d men in the ENTIRE NHL, still a plus player. Comon. Acting like this is another Mark Fayne is also pessimistic.

      I agree Hall is not a negative influence on the room, I agree even though Larsson is a good D man and could be a really good D man, full value was not returned. But to think this somehow means the team is not headed in a positive direction is a bit sky is falling. You’re better than that.

      • Zarny

        I still am empiric. What I’m not doing is trying to spin a brain fart as a good move. It wasn’t. The Oilers are further away from the Stanley Cup not closer.

        No, Pouliot, Nuge and Draisaitl won’t drive play. That doesn’t mean they’ll be a bad line. The options aren’t digital. All 3 are complimentary players; none of them are elite.

        Yes, Draisaitl was terrible away from Hall last year. With Hall, Draisaitl scored 2.3 pts/60; without Draisaitl scored 1.1 pt/60. Stare at that and let it sink in. Draisaitl was more than twice as good with Hall as without. He did play a lot more with Hall but he played enough away to show he was riding Hall’s coat tails. Halls scores no matter who he plays with. Draisaitl does not. And Hall does it against the best every night. That you suggest maybe Draisaitl can do better if he plays against weaker competition only emphasizes the chasm between the two players.

        And yes, Larsson is a 2nd pair D right now. He did have tough zone starts and competition. He also didn’t do all that well. That doesn’t mean he did poorly but his play certainly doesn’t put him in the same zip code as true top pairing D. Remember, Jultz played a lot minutes in Edm too. Didn’t make him a top pairing D.

        The crux of the matter is that Hall is elite. He’s irreplaceable save 2 or 3 LW in the league. Larsson is easily replaceable. He’s maybe the 20-30th RD in the league. It’s not that he’s not enough value for Hall; it’s that he’s terrible value for Hall. The hockey world is laughing at the Oilers and rightfully so.

    • Ed in Edmonton 1

      I think you need to take a breath and try to look objectively at what Larsen is.

      Larsen played all 82 games for the D’s last year no healthy scratching there. All reports are that Larsen showed massive improvement last. Bringing up what Larsen did 2 years ago much like saying the Ds got took cause Hall is so inconsistent, just look how he flubbed the 14/15 season.

      He lead all their D in ice time, this in 2nd pair?

  • ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Hall on Edmonton: “The city doesn’t matter for me as much as for other players. I was invested in the team. . . . To be able to say you played in the New York City area is pretty cool and I’m looking forward to playing hockey there.”

    What Taylor learned from De Niro: “A guy told me one time, “Don’t let yourself get attached to anything you are not willing to walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you feel the heat around the corner.”

  • camdog

    The trade was bad, but there is no need to make Larsson sound worse than he actually is. WoodGuy has Larsson as the 5th best right shot d-man in the league. Larsson is every bit if not better than Hjarlmarsson and he’s still a kid that’s developing and improving.

    He’s a legitimate #2 d-man right now and he still has the potential to improve.

    • McRaj

      Woodguy has lost it. Doughty, Ekblad, PK, Karlson, Burns, Pietro, Webber, Klingberg, Barrie, Johnson, Hamilton, Buff, Shatty, Letang, Faulk, Carlson, Risto, Hamonic are all easily better right shots.

      I wont punish Larson because it’s not his fault. I just really hope he becomes a legit #1.

      But we got ripped off and for all those bashing Hall now, you’re just cowards. Yeah waste a player on the way out, so classy. I wish Hall nothing but the best and he deserves better then this crappy organization who never provided him with adequate support.

      Give me Hall any day over Nuge, Drai, or Eberle. I have lost all faith in Oilers management once again.

      • camdog

        I am a little mystified that WoodGuy had him so high, but I’ve liked his work for a long time. He’s better defensively apparently according to the advanced stats. Once again just like Woodguy I am not saying it’s a good deal, but the advanced stat guys are saying the numbers for Larsson are good.

    • Moneyball1976

      Lets get back to reality for a moment. This is a high risk gamble on the future prospects of a Dman who has struggled in the past for a top 5 winger in the league. No matter how you cut it this deal is a big gamble that you did not have to take. Sports deals are all about risk management and there were less risky deals out there.

      I think Chia really wanted this player and went all in for him. See that Garth Snow transaction where he signed a goalie for a 20 year deal. I’m afraid Chia has looked at this player through rose colored glasses the same way Snow did.

      I’m also afraid that now he signs lucic to a ridiculously long contract.

      However, I’m hoping that common sense takes over.

      • I am Batman

        We do not know what other deals were out there.

        I do not like this trade, but I do not get paid to build a championship team, Chiarelli does, we may not like it but if the Oilers go to the play-offs, we will all be at peace, not because only this deal made us make it, but because we all know that walking in with almost the same line up as last year (especially on D) is guaranteed failure, bearing an unbelievable season from Klefbom or Nurse (both of them we have not really seen, we paint them as mythological heroes, they both have played very little).

        If Chiarelli and his scouts did an analysis on the development of this player and he projects to keep improving, who knows. OEL, Karlsson, Weber, Doughty…. they all started somewhere. Which one was Norris at 23?

        I am not happy with this trade, but I need to wait and see, We do not know what happened behind closed doors and we cannot predict the future.

        Maybe the kid is a stud. Taylor Hall was a stud, but how many Taylor Halls do we need? There is not enough puck for all of them. I wish it had been Eberle, but Eberle sucks, nobody wants him.

    • Pritchard

      Yeah and woodguy knows his s**t ! Larsson is going to surprise alot of oilet fans how effective he is in all aspects of the game. But give him some latitude the first month to adjust.

    • pkam

      5th best RHD? As far as I know, Drew Doughty, Erik Karlsson, Shea Weber, Alex Pietrangelo, Kris Letang, PK Subban are all RHD. Is Larsson already better than at least 2 of them?

      And I haven’t mentioned some of the really good but not elite RHD like Seabrook, Shattenkirk, Klingberg, Barrie, Faulk etc. Is he already better than all these players?

  • Speed Junky

    we need stay at home d. check with Larsson

    80 pt Hall??

    too much

    Hall got stabbed in the back. I feel sad for him

    he was with McDavid 1/2 season

    he put 6 years in. and now the Sun rises and he goes

    feel his pain

    Yes. you are a Good Soldier

  • Don W

    This deal is years of incompetence in the making. Schultz being forced into a top pairing no matter how much he struggled. Petry for a second round pick. Trading Nil players for magic beans. The management with no clue. How good does the Dougie Hamilton trade look now? The flames gave up nothing. What about the canucks trade for gudbranson? I don’t watch the east enough but is Larson much better. This is McDavids team now. His job got harder.

  • mithaman

    I’m sorry Taylor. Chiarelli traded the wrong guy. If he wanted Larsson that badly he had other pieces he could have moved. He made a mistake by choosing you. It really hurts today to lose my favourite player. You are a championship player and one of the few players who represented what was actually good about this team.

    Best of luck to you in NJ. The silver lining is you’re away from this bloody mess.

    • Cowbell_Feva

      Championship player?

      He was on a stacked lineup in Juniors in Windsor and won 2 Memorial Cups….in the World Juniors was it him who put Canada on his back (2 years in a row) or this other winger we STILL have in Edmonton wearing #14???

      If Hall is as elite as you and Gregor think he is, why isn’t he playing for Canada in September? Or the past Olympics?

      Oh, right, because some people are still bull headed enough to actually think MacT and K LOWE are running the organization….but they aren’t Canada’s best GMS selecting players to represent Canada….and they didn’t like Hall either!

      Maybe they see what I see. A ultra talented kid with zero hockey IQ that was told he was the best his whole life. I’ve never seen a guy this “elite” end up on his ass twice a shift and get caught with his head down regularly. Let’s not start with the hissy fits. He pissed off Eakins with water bottle gate. Same with Renney after Hall was caught on HNIC questioning his coach about pulling the goalie. Oh and McL benched him last year too due to the same behaviour. And some people wanted that cancer as the Captain!

      I’m fine seeing Hall gone. The true leader is #97. I for one won’t miss the drive down the wing and miss wide and clear the zone 4 times a game. Adios Taylor. But the Oilers are better off once Lucic gets here.

      Lucic + Larsson > Hall

  • Big Buck

    Great trade! Just what we needed. No way Taylor is a top 3 LW in the league. If so wouldn’t he be on Canada’s World Cup team which alone has 4 LWs? Good player but highly overrated. I applaud Chiarelli for having the stones to do what needed doing. Unlike the guys before him. I’m a lifelong Oiler fan and I can say its good to see somebody in the driver’s seat that can do what needs doing. Hall was not going to take this team anywhere – just gets his points and be happy with that. We need to compete and this gets us one step closer. Hopefully more fireworks in the next 48 hours. Oiler Fans will all be on board with the change by November 1st when they see the different attitude. Its a great day in Oiler Land!

  • madjam

    Well this is just another of Chia’s boneheaded trades , as he has had several over the last ten years . Just take a look at his trades with Boston from 2006-2014 and you’ll see what I mean .

  • Mitch92

    Oiler fans need to let go of the notion that Taylor Hall is the third best left winger in the game. Hall was not the third best left winger in Canada! He is only invited to represent Canada when our good players are unavailable because they are playing play-off hockey, a concept that Hall is completely unfamiliar with. I understand that there is a lot of attachment to Hall being that he was the first of many first overall picks the Oilers have collected over the years but now that McDavid is here and the window of opportunity to win has been defined it is time to forget about sexy and get serious about building a winner and that starts with defense. I predict that Adam Larsson will become a pillar of the defense for the Oilers and more important pieces will be added as they become available.

  • RYLO

    I feel for Hall. That’s like going to see a really slow movie with a great ending and someone pulls the fire alarm right before it gets good. No refund. Start again at another theatre

  • Free Bird

    I was expecting a deal like Hall for Hamonic straight-up, so Hall for Larsson is not a surprise but I’m also a little disappointed that Chia couldn’t get an extra asset coming back.

    I’m still good with the deal if it means that a solid winger is signed from free agency (Lucic or Okposo?). This would explain the workings of the trade, as it probably meant that Chia was desperate to clear up cap space before July 1 and had to accept a lower return on one of the $6M smurfs.

  • Pritchard

    Agree with previous texter that Hall..dynamic player that he is really didn’t cycle the puck very well. And that is a key component to generating scoring chances . That is not to say Hall isn’t a fantastic player…he is. But the Oilers got a very good defender back in Adam Larsson. And addressed a massive team hole in doing so. I too am surprised that a pick or prospect didn’t come back from the Devils. And I’d pose this question to Jason Gregor…don’t u think that Chia explored all his options and this deal is simply the best deal he could get to address the glaring need on defence ?

  • Chia wanted Larsson. Whatever he saw in Larsson he liked very much and I think it just ramped up to the point where he needed to lose Hall. It’s a tough blow and I’m not on board with the trade as of right now. But as everyone else has said, if the oil make the playoffs next year this will all be forgotten.

  • Pritchard

    Whoa ! Larsson is a waaaaaay better defender than Hamilton. Nothing wrong with Larssons zone exit passes…and again he’s a much much better all around player than Gudbranson. Anyone who thinks different hasn’t seen/watched the player enough to make an informed statement. Most if us are sad to see Hall go..myself included. But defence is our biggest team need. And Adam Larsson is a very good defenceman. And he’s not even in his prime. Big time upside. Some of u need to check your remarks. ..bag of pucks etc…ridiculous. we just filled a huge hole on this team. And kept are strength down the middle too .

  • crackerjacksregular

    Short sighted panic move so he would appear to be doing something! The D may be looking more respectable but we will lose one come the expansion draft next year. I fear the team will be getting older with addition of Lucic if he signs. Not impressed! Should of waited Chai!