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Feature: Don’t Devalue Draisaitl

Leon Draisaitl and the Edmonton Oilers have yet to reach an agreement on a new contract. Some reports stated Draisaitl’s camp is asking for $9 million/season, and maybe more. What they ask for and what the final contract is are two completely different things. The reality is at this point there are no comparables to suggest he can demand that salary. I understand why his agent would ask, but when he signs a deal I’ll be stunned if it is over $9 million AAV. I suspect he falls between $7.2-$7.8 million/season.

What I don’t understand about Draisaitl’s contract talk is how suddenly he is considered a risk because, in the eyes of some, he either isn’t proven enough or had his offensive numbers inflated by Connor McDavid.

I see holes in either insinuation.

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I’ve been a huge fan of Draisaitl the player since his draft year. Big, strong, highly-skilled centres are a rare breed in the NHL. Draisaitl is not only talented, he’s also very driven. “I believe he will be great, because he works so hard. He is always looking to improve his game,” Taylor Hall said after the 2016 season.

The early knock on Draisaitl was his skating, more so a lack of strength to maintain his speed for more than short bursts. He spent hours in the gym working on his legs in the summer of 2015, and when he returned to the NHL in 2015/2016 no one questioned his skating. I think much of the concern was overblown because he had top speed, he just couldn’t maintain it for the entire game. It is easier to fly around the ice at 180 pounds than it is at 210. Draisaitl just needed some time to mature and get stronger.

One of his biggest strengths is his ability to handle and pass the puck as efficiently on his backhand as he does on his forehand. I don’t see this skill deteriorating, and the one aspect that won’t show up in any analytics page is his drive to improve. The best players in any sport have an immense inner drive to improve, be better and ultimately compete. Draisaitl has it.

RARE COMPANY

May 7, 2017; Edmonton, Alberta, CAN; Edmonton Oilers forward Leon Draisaitl (29) celebrates his second period hat-trick goal against the Anaheim Ducks in game six of the second round of the 2017 Stanley Cup Playoffs at Rogers Place. Mandatory Credit: Perry Nelson-USA TODAY Sports

Since the 2005 full season lockout, only 17 players have scored 70+ points in a season when they were 21 years of age or younger before December 31st of that year. Seventeen players over the past 12 seasons.

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**If a player turns 20 like McDavid in January, it was still his 19 year-old-season.**

Sidney Crosby did it four times tallying 102 points at 18, 120 at 19, 72 at 20 (53GP) and 103 at 21. He’s elite. His second contract was five years at $8.7 million/year.

Steven Stamkos did it three times with 95 points at 19, 91 at 20 and 97 at 21. Injuries have slowed him down a bit. His second contract was five years with a $7.5 million AAV.

Patrick Kane also did it three times with 72 points as a 19-year-old rookie, 70 at 20 and 88 at 21. One of the most dynamic players in the NHL. His second contract was five years at $6.5 mill/year.

Alex Ovechkin had 106 points as a 20-year-old rookie and 92 at 21 years young. The NHL’s premiere goal scorer for the last decade. His second deal was 12 years at $9.53 million per year.

Evgeni Malkin debuted in the NHL at 20 years old and tallied 85 points, and 106 points at 21. Probably the most under-appreciated player in the league because he plays in Pittsburgh. For years he’s been the second best player in the NHL, but rarely gets talked about. His second contract was five years at $8.7 mill/season.

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Patrice Bergeron had 73 points at 20 and 70 when he was 21. He has won the Selke four times. He was never an elite scorer, just a very good one, but he’s outstanding defensively and his focus on defence is why he’s more of a 60-point player since. His second contract was $4.75 million/season for five years.

McDavid scored 100 at 19. He won the Hart, Art Ross and Ted Lindsay trophies this past season. He’s already considered one of the best in the game. He just signed his second contract for eight years at $12.5 mill/season.

Eric Staal scored 100 points at 21. He’s had an 82-point season since and six 70+ point campaigns. A very consistent scorer. His second contract was three years at $4.5 million/year.

Nicklas Backstrom scored 88 points at 21. He just missed the cut at 20 when he scored 69 points. In his next eight seasons, he has scored 571 points in 570 games. His second contract was 10 years at $6.7 million/season.

Tyler Seguin scored 84 points at 21. In his next three seasons, he has scored 222 points in 225 games with seasons of 72,73 and 77 points. His second deal was six years at $5.75 million AAV.

John Tavares tallied 81 points when he was 21. He scored 269 points in 267 games over the next four seasons. He had a slight dip this past year with only 66 points in 77 games, but he’s been very consistent. His second contract was six years with a $5.5 million AAV.

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Erik Karlsson is the only D-men on the list. He produced 78 points when he was 21 and he’s had seasons of 74, 66, 82 and 71 points since. He is a marvel to watch. His second contract carried a $6.5 million AAV for seven years.

Paul Stastny was 21 when he scored 78 points. He’s had two 70-point seasons since. He had his best offensive seasons up until 24. He had dipped since. His second contract was five years at $6.6 million/year.

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Anze Kopitar scored 77 points when he was 20. He’s had seasons of 81, 76, 73, 79, 66 and 64 since. This past season, at 29 years of age, was his least productive with only 52 points, mainly due to a brutal start. His second deal was seven years with an AAV of $6.8 million.

Jordan Eberle had 76 points when he was 21. It was his career-high to date. He’s had 63 and 65 point seasons since. He has scored the 24th most goals in the NHL since entering at 20, so he’s doing something right. His second contract was six years with a $6 million AAV.

Of the aforementioned 15 contracts, only Staal had a “bridge” deal at three years. His next deal was $8.25/mill for seven years. Six players signed for five years, three for six, two for seven and three had eight plus seasons. Draisaitl won’t sign for five because it takes him directly to unrestricted free agency. (Their cap hits don’t mean a lot considering how salary cap his risen, but wanted to show what length of deals players who produce points at a young age have received).

David Pastrnak scored 70 points as a 20-year-old this season. He had 53 points in 97 games over his first two seasons. A very unique case, since he jumped from 26 points in 51 games last year to 70 points in 75 games this season. He, like Draisaitl, is an RFA.

Draisaitl scored 77 at 21 years of age. He was very good in the playoffs tallying 16 points in 13 games, and he had all 16 points in the final nine games after dealing with a bad chest cold during the first four. Of course a 13-game sample size is very small, but I don’t believe you can discount it.

IS HE UNPROVEN?

Apr 14, 2017; Edmonton, Alberta, CAN; Edmonton Oilers forward Leon Draisaitl (29) and San Jose Sharks forward Logan Couture (39) chase a loss puck during the first period in game two of the first round of the 2017 Stanley Cup Playoffs at Rogers Place. Mandatory Credit: Perry Nelson-USA TODAY Sports

First off, what defines proven in today’s NHL? I doubt we all have the same definition, but history gives us a pretty good indication if a player produces above average points in his first few seasons he will remain a solid, but not always elite, scorer. There are outliers, of course, but if a player is highly productive in their first few seasons they often remain a solid point producer, as long as they avoid significant injuries.

How is Draisaitl more unproven than Johnny Gaudreau, Sean Monahan, Mark Schiefele, Vladimir Tarasenko, Nikita Kucherov and other young players who recently signed their second NHL contract? I don’t believe he is.

Draisaitl has played two full NHL seasons. He scored 48-80-128 points in 154 games the past two years. He had 29-48-77 this season.

Kucherov’s final two years of his ELC produced 58-72-130 points in 159 games. He had 30-36-66 his last year before signing a three-year extension worth $4.76 million/year. He tallied 85 points in 74 games in year one of his deal. If he matches that in the next two he will likely command $9.5 million/season. Possibly even more. A three-year bridge deal is a great bet for Tampa. Had they signed Kucherov to an eight-year deal worth $7.5 million (Tarasenko money) it would have cost them $60 mill. If Kucherov’s next deal is $9.5 mill cap hit then they would pay $61.8 million over the same eight-year span. A three-year bridge is ideal for teams, which is why few players sign them.

Schiefele tallied 44-66-110 in 153 games. He had 29-32-61 in 72 games in 2016 and inked an 8-year deal worth $6.125 million/season. He scored 32-50-82 in 79 games this past season. If he remains close to those numbers he’ll be a great value contract for the Winnipeg Jets. He was two years older than Draisaitl when his ELC expired.

Monahan scored 58-67-125 in 162 games. He had 27-36-63 in 2016 and signed a seven-year deal worth $6.375 million/season. He had 27-31-58 in the first year. Exact same amount of goals, but five fewer assists.

Gaudreau’s two seasons produced 54-88-142 in 159 games. He tallied 30-48-78 in 2016 before signing a six-year extension worth $6.75 million/season. Gaudreau tallied 61 points in the first year of his deal, but he missed ten games and he also missed training camp and the preseason due to a contract spat.

Tarasenko debuted in the NHL at 21, and in his final two seasons leading up to his eight-year extension worth $7.5 million/season, he scored 58-58-116. He had 37-36-73 in the final year of his ELC when he was 23 years of age. In the first two years of his new contract, Tarasenko has produced 40-34-74 and 39-36-75. He’s been very consistent and is one of the best goal scorers in the NHL.

Another recent signing was Evgeny Kuznetsov. He is three years older than Draisaitl and just signed an eight-year extension with a $7.8 million AAV. At 21 years of age, Kuznetsov had nine points in 17 NHL games. He produced 37 points at 22 and broke out at 23 with 77, the had only 59 last year. Kuznetsov did give up five UFA years, while Draisaitl would only be surrendering three, but I could see it being thrown in the comparable pile.

When you look at the aforementioned contracts, I see Draisaitl signing somewhere between $7.2-$7.8 million. If he signs for $8 million I wouldn’t be concerned. I also see him signing for six years, not eight. It will allow him to get to his third contract quicker, and it would be three years before McDavid’s contract expires. That allows the Oilers some time to adjust to another potential increase for both and I believe a two or three-year gap is better than having to sign both in back-to-back seasons.

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McDavid Carries Him?

Draisaitl has played 2209 5×5 minutes over the past two seasons, and he has produced 77 points. He played 675 of those minutes with McDavid and had 25 points. What is interesting is that Draisaitl had 34 points in 878 minutes ( 5×5) with Hall in 2016. He had a slightly better production rate with Hall in fact. I doubt anyone would suggest Hall is better than McDavid, and I think sometimes people can overvalue WOWY numbers. Draisaitl can play with skilled players, that should be looked at as a positive, not a negative. Maroon played a lot with McDavid with the past season, but he finished with 35 fewer points than Draisaitl. It is fair to bring up those numbers, but they should not be the main aspect of Draisaitl’s evaluation. One stat does not define who he is as a player. I believe it devalues Draisaitl’s abilities by suggesting his success is mainly due to McDavid.

From March 14th to May 10th the Oilers played 27 games. It was the push to the playoffs as they battled for home ice and then 13 playoff games. In those 27 games, Draisaitl produced 12-25-37. McDavid produced 12-22-34. Draisaitl also switched from wing to centre and didn’t miss a beat. I see versatility as a positive.

Draisaitl had 16 EV points and five PP points down the stretch and then ten EV points and six PP points in the playoffs.
McDavid had 17 EV points, seven PP and one PK in final 14 games, and then four EV points, four PP and one PK in the playoffs.

During the most important time of the season, and the most intense, Draisaitl played exceptionally well. I don’t recall him riding the coattails of McDavid. I feel strongly when you evaluate Draisaitl you should look at what he does on the ice, how he does it and how diligent he has worked to improve his overall game. And there is no need to suddenly try and devalue his skill as a player. He is damn good, and the Oilers will need more than McDavid if they want to win a Stanley Cup. Great teams win Cups, not individuals.

McDavid is a unique player and I don’t believe his contract should even be a talking point when looking at Draisaitl’s contract. The fact they are teammates shouldn’t alter the negotiations. If Draisailt had scored 77 points in Detroit, Vancouver or any other team other than Edmonton then his contract comparables would be Kucherov, Tarasenko, Gaudreau, Monahan, Schiefele and possibly Kuznetsov.

SCOUTING REPORT

I asked TSN analyst Ray Ferraro what he sees in Draisaitl.

“I have few things here. Number one, is the only thing I would have a little bit of caution on.  I’ve seen some articles breaking down what Draisaitl’s done over the last year, and one point was that he got 37% of his points on McDavid’s wing, so that would give me a little bit of pause. Because, of course, McDavid is McDavid.  

“But! What I thought was going to be a weakness for him was his skating. It’s not. His skating is fine. He’s a terrific passer. He’s strong. He’s got a drive. He doesn’t want to be a second banana, he wants to be the best. I’ve known that about Leon since he was in junior, when my buddy was the head coach and general manager (Bruno Campese) in Prince Albert, and he said “You can’t believe this kid, and how hard he works. He’s so good, but he wants to be the best. 

“My one worry point gets washed out by the fact that I’ve seen him place centre, I’ve seen him drive a line, I’ve seen him pass the puck, I’ve seen him get to the net, I’ve seen his shot grow already. I have no problem envisioning Draisaitl as a number one centermen. I have none. Now you have to make the numbers work.

 “I look at a number of teams where Leon Drasaitl could easily be a centrepiece. One of their core players. I have very, very, very little concern about his abilities.”

WRAP UP

The potential of an offer sheet still exists, but the list is pretty short on teams who could and would submit an offer sheet.

It is also unlikely he signs right away. I’d expect his agent to come in with a high salary, he wouldn’t be doing his job properly if he didn’t, and many RFA negotiations have gone deep into the summer. Monahan signed in late August last year. Gaudreau signed on October 10th, Kucherov on October 11th. Jacob Trouba and his agent asked for a trade, held out, but ultimately signed on November 4th for $3 million/year.

Negotiations are business, not personal. Peter Chiarelli has made it clear he respects Draisaitl and views him as a key piece and that’s why I expect a deal to get done eventually, but as the summer progresses I don’t see the need to want to try and devalue Draisaitl.

He is a damn good player and I suspect he will improve, regardless of who he plays with.

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  • bishop

    Deutschland Dangler should get 8.5-9. Some of Gregors comparisons aren’t relevant. As the cap goes up so does the percentage of a salary for top end players.

          • Furgantilese_Gus

            Younger actually weakens his bargaining position. Washington had to buy 5 years of UFA years from Kuznetsov. At most we’re buying 3. I love Drai and hope he’s a lifetime Oiler but I am thrilled that Chia is not blowing his wad too early on this one. If his deal is 6 years as Gregor mentioned, I’d say no more than 7.5. That only buys 1 year of UFA status.

          • MacT's Neglected Helmet

            Agree with Furgantilese_Gus: Younger = further away from UFA = cheaper (at least theoretically).

            You also could argue that: Younger = has more potential to improve = higher ceiling = more expensive…
            …and that’s a legit argument, but I’d say it mostly balances out the first equation. So if you’re using Kuznetsov as a comparable, then Leon shouldn’t be much more or less than $7.8M.

  • dawgbone98

    There seems to be a couple of different arguments here and while you’ve separated some, there are some that are intrinsically linked together.

    For instance “How is Draisaitl more unproven than Johnny Gaudreau, Sean Monahan, Mark Schiefele, Vladimir Tarasenko, Nikita Kucherov and other young players who recently signed their second NHL contract? I don’t believe he is.”

    He’s not, but none of them signed for over $8mil. That’s really the sticking point here. If you are signing him to $8mil+, he better be worth that type of money. If he isn’t going to carry a line away from McDavid, then it’s not well spent money. If he is going to be McDavid’s wing mate, that’s fine, there’s value in that, but probably not at $8mil+.

    Yes, Draisaitl has produced well with McDavid and Hall, but one of those 2 isn’t around anymore. Can he produce when he is the one carrying the line? I know he had some big games in the playoffs away from 97, but it starts to get dicey when you pick and choose what games you want to look at.

    • Jason Gregor

      So you’re saying straight up Draisaitl isn’t better than Gaudreau and/or Monahan? Tell me why? And I never said pay him $8 million, but even if they did pay $8 I’m fine with it. Draisaitl gets punished because he played with skilled players and produced. Maroon played more with McDavid and he had 42 points to Draisaitl’s 77. Just because you play with skilled players doesn’t mean you produce high point totals. And McDavid had 75 points in 68 games. Then in final 14 games he had 25 points when he played extensively with Draisaitl. They worked well off each other.

  • Craig1981

    Gregor, don’t totally disagree with you on the unproven, but at the same time, Joe Juneau and Jonathan Cheechoo show that after two early season of success a player can all out disappear.

    I’m not saying its likely and those names are the exceptions, but it is possible, which is why a discount is need from the Drasaitl camp. If you want to go back with players that play with generational talent and the names Rob Brown, Blair MacDonald, Coby Armstrong are all there. I can’t compare their ice time with and without the greats they played with, but they need to factor in, fairly or not.

    • Jason Gregor

      You are comparing Draisaitl to Cheechoo and Juneau? Help me understand why? Neither was in NHL at 20 or 21.

      Cheechoo had an outlier season at 25, which is often predictable when the player has never produced big numbers earlier in his career. Go look at Cheechoo’s junior numbers and compare to Drai. Plus Cheechoo was never a strong skater.

      Juneau had 102 points at 24, 85 points at 25 and 43 points in 44 games during 1995 lockout. Then he started to dip, but he dipped at 28 and on…Draisaitl’s contract, if it is six years will expire before he is 28.

      Joe Juneau

      • Craig1981

        I’m not saying they are exactly the same and you can surely pick out differences, but the fact a player can have a break out season and then fall by the wayside in indisputable IMO. Also players having big years the year before a contract and then falling off is also a common thing. I believe you can put weight into the fact Draisaitl is younger, but I don’t think you can totally ignore my point mentioned either.

          • Craig1981

            Do you have stats or reference to back this up? I have read several studies that disagree with you. Google “players before contract years stats” and you will find several.

          • Craig1981

            To be clear, I’m not on the side that he is super high risk, but I also am not on your side that you should ignore them. I typically agree with you, but playing with a generational talent like McDavid and not having several years of track record certainly devalues a players contract. It adds risk. I feel like this article overlooks the risks rather than qualifies them. I mean that respectfully

  • freelancer

    The only concern I have with Draisaitl is his 12.62 Sh% from last season. I won’t be surprised to see that number fall off next season as well as his points as a result. Having said that everything else you mentioned about Draisaitl makes him a very valuable player to this organization.

    Looking at comparable players like Gaudreau the fact is that inflation in the NHL is a thing and while 6.75 may have been the price a year ago, that number isn’t necessarily a fair comparable now. If it’s 7.5 or less I will be happy.

    • Yelak

      Nhl.com has his shooting percentage at 16.9 last year. Either way im not sure why you would think his shooting% would be a concern to fall below 12%. Its obviously possible but what makes you think that?, not like its a high or unsustainable %. I would think he will get more shots on net this year so even if his % stays about the same he should put up 30 goals.

      • Jason Gregor

        Draisaitl only had 176 shots. Very low. Let’s say he gets to 200 shots this year. Not a stretch.

        He scores 29 goals on 200 shots. His shooting % is 14.5. If he gets to 210 shots, again not a big reach, and scores the same 29 goals his SH% is 13.8.

        The thing is Drai’s biggest strength is his passing. He has a good shot, but his points won’t be reliant on a high SH% in my eyes.

  • fisherprice

    I don’t think anyone was arguing that he’s a bad player or was at risk of not being good. It seemed more like he was a risk at the reported ask of $9M+. A number that more than a few credible sources have tossed out in the last few weeks. If the number actually does come in around $7-7.5M I don’t think you’ll have the same complaints about it being risky.

  • Redbird62

    I agree with most of what you say in this article; however, I think many who have criticisms or concerns on Draisaitl are in response to the idea that he get paid $9-10 million per season not $7-8 million. His performance over his first three seasons are slightly behind what Hall accomplished, and he got $6 million. With inflation, his position, and his playoff performance, something in that lower range you mention is reasonable for Leon. Leon would need the shorter contract, 5-6 years, to further demonstrate he is worthy of a contract that is in the top 10 to 15 players in the league.

  • Shredder

    The guy is a stud. I don’t mind waiting to get the numbers right, but I would try to maximize term to as long as possible, even if it went over $8M…just my opinion. I see this guy evolving to be a star on his own, with or without Hall/McDavid. Put Kassian and Lucic on his line and both their numbers will go up. Facing off against Getzlaf is no easy task and he’s the guy we’ve got to do it. I see him as the most important part of our future, now that we’ve got McD locked up long term.

  • Spoils

    i like the shorter bridge deal. the fact is we still don’t know exactly what we have with Leon. But, you can break it down to two scenarios:

    – he under performs and we are saved by the term
    – he performs or over performs = we win a cup! McDavid will be McDavid, and with Draisaitl (especially after these playoffs) we are signing high, so if he delivers on that value, wow!

      • oilerjed

        Do you pay him more to get him to sign a 4 year contract then?
        Seems that if he is giving the power back to the club in four years he is going to expect to get more $$ to offset it.
        I don’t see this happening unless Chia really plays hardball and then this could turn into a hold out scenario.

  • Spoils

    I feel like we need a little more FW depth to push for spots. If all works out and Lucic bounces back or has a career year AND Puljujarvi lights it up I like this configuration:

    Lucic- McDavid- Draisaitl
    Jokinen- Nugent Hopkins- Puljujarvi
    Jokinen- Strome- Cagiula
    Slepyshev- Letestu- Kassian

  • Tombstone

    They should keep hockey players salary private. It’s absolutely no ones business what Draisaitl should make. If you feel like you’re entitled to say what Draisaitl should make please share with us your salary so we can debate that.

    • Spoils

      nobody knows what these guys make on advertising and business deals. playing for a professional sports team that is sponsored in part by the government (see arena deal), and that would be sponsored much more if it was required – in many respects is like being an elected official – the edmonton hockey team “representative”.

      we know what salary the prime minister gets etc.

      PLUS the cap is a HUGE part of the game. it is more entertaining for the game to have the cap open for discussion and analysis.

      if they don’t want their salary known they can go play shinny hockey down by the river.

      • Dwayne Roloson 35

        We do know what they make on advertising though. Crosby signed the richest endorsement deal in the NHL with Reebok in 2010 and was only getting 1.4M a season. Thats really not a lot considering he’s the face of the NHL. I doubt Drai will be getting much.

    • Redbird62

      I think it was originally the players and/or their agents who started making the salaries available to the public. I would think few if any owners would want this information public.

    • ricardo2000

      Player salaries are public so that the players, fans, and teams can make comparisons. This is valuable because the owners have a history of using stars to squash the salaries of the other players.

      • ubermiguel

        Strangely the NHL doesn’t make player salaries public. The NHLPA puts them on their site though, but I think the media usually beats them in getting the info out there. Public salaries is entirely to the players’ benefit, certainly the star players. Gordie Howe was sure surprised to learn he was the 3rd highest player on the Red Wings because as Bruce Norris said “you never asked for anything more.”

  • RJ

    I don’t see how you leave McDavids contract out of this. The highest cap hit was Toews and Kane at $10.5m. McDavid has made it 12.5.

    If McDavid can ask for the largest 2nd contract ever, then I don’t see why Drai can’t look to ask for more than what the previous market was.

    • oilfan4ever

      You seem to be drawing some parallel between McDavid and Drai. While I have a great deal of respect for Drai and I am a fan, there is no way that he can be mentioned in the same breath as Mcdavid.

    • Jason Gregor

      As I pointed out. If Drai played on another team and produced 77 points no one brings up McDavid, and it shouldn’t matter as teammates. Is Keith half as valuable as Kane and Toews in Chic because he makes $5.5 mill. I don’t see it. But McDavid is an outlier. His contract really has no comparables other than Crosby and Malkin’s 2nd deals. IMO.

    • camdog

      It’s meant to be directed at Arch, without directing it at Arch… He said the same thing about banking on LD being risky last season, because all of his success was a result of playing with Hall…

      • But he arrives at the exact same conclusions.

        If I say “they can’t pay him 9M because he’s comparable with Gaudreau and Schiefele, not Malkin,” it’s kind of absurd to respond with, “you’re devaluing him, he’s comparable with Gaudreau and Schiefele and should be paid like it!!”

  • dreierlei

    For some time I wonder how fast Draisaitl made it from: “He’s such a great and priceless player and a perfect partner for McDavid! And he can even drive his own line”, to: “It was just one good season. He’s okay, but nothing special. Everyone could score on McDavid’s side”.

    Obviously a player is only “great” and “priceless” as long as he doesn’t want to get paid. Weird world.

  • Tombstone

    Why is it always up to the best players to take the pay cut so the team can win. Why didn’t Sekera take $4mil/ yr, Russell $2.9mil/yr, Talbot $3.5 mil/yr, Lucic $5 mil/ yr. McDavid and Driasiatl are Edmontons best players but yet they are expected to sign for less. Figure that one out.

    • crabman

      3 of those players were sugned as ufa’s and the other is our starting goalie, and arguably the biggest goalie bargin in the league.
      Sekera signed to a losing team who won the McDavid lottery before he played a game in the NHL and the Oilers were desperate for Dmen. I would argue he covered the bet.
      Lucic is the most sot after pwf in the league for the last 10 years. I would have liked to see him come in at 5m per but he easily would have madeb6m anywhere else.
      I would have liked to see Russell come in cheaper to or at least a shorter term but he likely did take a pay cut to come here. As a ufa coming off a good year and duringba very thin ufa group he was going to get overpaid. He just got less over paid by us.
      McDavid and Draisaitl are under team control and barring an offer sheet had far less power than all the players you compare them to. They will get paid well because they are great. And when they are ufa they will be overpaid like most other great ufa players.

  • Heschultzhescores

    It seems we are in a habit of paying guys too much to quickly. Eberle, Hall, and Pouliot come to mind…and we thought 6 million a year was a lot. I think we should sign Draisaitl to a short term 6 million dollar deal and see that he can produce reliably over a reasonable span. It wasn’t long ago he was in the minors. It should be understandable that we want to be sure when we pay 8 or 9 million away in a long term deal.

  • Heschultzhescores

    Pay him his 7 or 8 million, but make it a two year deal and let’s see how he performs over a larger time-frame. He will either be worth the 9 or 10 million long-term deal or he wont…either way, he’s not going to be worth more than McDavid…ever!

  • D

    It wasn’t until Draisaitl got rolling that the Oilers were really able to close out the San Jose Sharks in the playoffs. He is a key cog in the Oilers’ eventually winning the Stanley Cup.

    • MacT's Neglected Helmet

      Yes. McDavid is not enough. Talbot was not enough (remember that he stole some games in the playoffs).
      McDavid was a little quiet in the playoffs. Whether or not that’s due to injuries, harder checking, slump, whatever. It doesn’t matter. It shows that you need more than 1 offensive driver.

    • IRONman

      If you do a bridge deal 2 years for 7 million, 77 pts, and he scores more than 77 pts he will want 10.5 million. Lock in the cost now at 8 x 8. Players peak points are at age 25. Good stat for forwards. He is only 21

      • IRONman

        You can’t justify a trade. The Oilers know he can score in playoffs. He works hard. He deserves to get at least 8 million. If 100 pts is worth 12.5 million, 77 pts is more like 9 million

        • it’s not that simple. 100 pts isn’t worth 12.5 MM, connor mcdavid is worth 12.5, 100 point or not. 100 pts, Hart Trophy, Art Ross trophy, Ted Lindsay Trophy, Captain of his team, face of the NHL for the next 10 years, that’s worth $12.5. Linemate of that player..maybe he’s worth 66%, maroon maybe is worth 33%

      • Slipknot 8

        Just a comparable, Mackinnon is one month older, is a RH centre, isn’t being zoomed by anyone on Colorado, makes 6.3 AAV is more than capable of putting up huge numbers with or without McDavid, has speed and has an amazing shot.
        Personally, I make the trade and use the extra cap space to make the defence better.

          • Slipknot 8

            I could literally say the same thing about Draisiatl…..he’s had one really good year ( his shooting % will drop by the way) and people want to hand over (just in the comments section) 8 AAV 8.5 AAV 9 AAV after one good year is complete insanity! Draisiatl is good, he’s not Malkin good or OV8 good. He’s about 7.5 to 7.8 good.

        • Heschultzhescores

          I’d trade for Nathan Mackinnon for that price…especially if Drai wants 10 million or something crazy. Nathan Mackinnon is an amazing players…highlight reel player.

  • Mitch92

    Drai should get between 6.5 and 7.5 AAV depending on the length of the deal. This is not a Kane and Toews situation here. Drai is an important piece going forward whether he plays beside Connor or anchors his own line. He is not a $9.0 million dollar player.

  • O.C.

    The comments on this blog are hilarious. It’s like bizarro world seeing what some people interpret think other people say or meant.

    (I’ll jump in… why not?)

    Draisaitl might be an immense powerhouse. Or he may have had a good year. Either way, no one wants to do the wrong deal here. Something in the middle makes sense… likely $52.5M to $55M over 7 years. Pushing for something like $65M or 8 years (or just over $8M / year) doesn’t make sense for either side. Draisaitl has had ONE GOOD YEAR and you don’t want those shoulders carrying that burden. Let him Earn something more, rather than have try to do too much in trying to live up to something that he can’t.

    Schiefele’s 6.125M x 8 might be the best value contract ever (okay, an exaggeration, but he’s Mr. Everything for that team. Remember when everyone snickered when the Jets went off the Board?)

    (Hey BM… can you give us bigger comment boxes to post in? Ya, I know, it takes code and the edit button is the important one… but when you have that solved and when you aren’t busy… thanks…)

    • camdog

      I think LD is going to want to earn it. I think he’d gladly welcome the challenge of a bridge deal. I don’t think sacrificing on the years will scare him off. I think he really believes in himself, which is what you want out of player, except during contract talks…

  • madjam

    Generally , a player is most productive in their 4th-5th year in league . Draisaitl has just finished his 3rd year , and next two should see a boost in his totals barring injury , and perhaps his maximum capacity . He played like a 6-7M player last year and one should expect he will beat last years figures . Hard to determine just what price point he might play at even next year 8-9M ?