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Monday Mailbag – Does Johansen’s contract affect Draisaitl negotiations?

Welcome, welcome to the 212th edition of the Monday Mailbag here at Oilersnation.com. As always, I’m happy to have you here with us and give you all an opportunity to learn a little something and have your questions answered by our panel of all knowing bloggers and life coaches. If you’ve got a question, you can email it to me at baggedmilk@oilersnation.com or hit me up on Twitter at @jsbmbaggedmilk. Now sit back, relax, and enjoy.

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1) Brittany asks – How do you think the Ryan Johansen contract affects the Leon Draisaitl negotiations, if at all? Thanks!

Robin Brownlee:

Not much. Johansen gave up a lot more UFA years than Draisaitl will if he gets an eight-year deal. Those are the most expensive seasons for a team to buy.

Jason Gregor:

It might have a very small impact, but Johansen gave up seven UFA years. If Draisaitl signed for eight years he’d only be giving up three UFA seasons.

Lowetide:

If anything, it helps the Oilers. Nashville bought more free-agent seasons than the Oilers will.

Matt Henderson:

Normally I would say absolutely it places an upper limit on Draisaitl’s contract. RyJo’s deal is buying significantly more UFA years and he’s their 1C where Draisaitl will never be higher than 2C if he stays at centre at all. However, I’m not convinced Chiarelli knows how to negotiate a value deal. I feel like it’s only a matter of time before the Oilers announce a full boat payment based on one year as McDavid’s winger.

Chris the Intern:

Honestly, I think it might drive it up a little bit. If I’m Leon, I wouldn’t want to get paid less than RyJo. Granted Leon is younger and hasn’t proved himself to be as consistent as RyJo YET, but I don’t think that signing was good for us and the Drai negotiations.

Baggedmilk:

I think, and maybe I’m just hoping here, that it will bring the price of Leon’s deal down. Johansen gave up more UFA years than Leon will be asked to and those years are expensive. Then again, maybe I’m just a dreamer.

Mar 16, 2017; Edmonton, Alberta, CAN; Edmonton Oilers goalie Cam Talbot (33) celebrates teammates after defeating the Boston Bruins 7-4 at Rogers Place. Mandatory Credit: Walter Tychnowicz-USA TODAY Sports

2) @tempest9 asks – What do you think are the three biggest risks facing the Oilers heading into next season?

Robin Brownlee:

I don’t see three risks. Not waiting for the wheels to fall off this team. The default answer is likely an injury to Cam Talbot, but all but a handful of teams would be challenged by losing their No. 1 goaltender. That’s not a “risk” that applies only to the Oilers.

Jason Gregor:

Injury to key players is the biggest. I think the Oilers are pretty solid top to bottom, and unless they suffer some key injuries I don’t see them struggling very much. Second risk would be young D struggling and third would be lack of scoring on RW.

Lowetide:

Injuries are a big one, and I do think the Sekera injury leaves the team vulnerable on that second pairing. The third worry is RW, although there are plenty of options there.

Matt Henderson:

Three biggest risks:
1) The second pairing cannot withstand losing its anchor
2) Talbot either gets injured or otherwise, cannot play 70+ games
3) Internal growth doesn’t happen or only happens to a small degree while others like Maroon regress
Number one is pretty much a guarantee. Number two scares me. Number three has me praying Maroon is just McDavid’s perfect LW.

Chris the Intern:

1. Bottom six forward production
2. Injury Scare
3. Rogers Place bathroom renovations

Baggedmilk:

Health. for obvious reasons. What kind of assets/space will be available at the trade deadline, and, to be different, can Laurent Brossoit provide consisten backup goaltending for 20 games or so?

May 7, 2017; Edmonton, Alberta, CAN; Edmonton Oilers forward Zack Kassian (44) celebrates a first period goal against the Anaheim Ducks in game six of the second round of the 2017 Stanley Cup Playoffs at Rogers Place. Mandatory Credit: Perry Nelson-USA TODAY Sports3) @WColfo asks – If you were to guess, who will be this year’s unsung hero? My past winners include Letestu, Klefbom, Maroon, and going way back Gagner and Petry.

Robin Brownlee:

Kris Russell. Apparently, he’s terrible, but I think he will manage to put his skates on the right feet and find a way to compete every night and be pretty good.

Jason Gregor:

Larsson. He will have another solid campaign.

Lowetide:

I’m going to guess Jussi Jokinen, who will be making very little and could play a prominent role. I’m not sure of your criteria for unsung, but he’s my bet.

Matt Henderson:

I’m picking Jussi Jokinen. He’s been a better offensive performer in the recent past and he’s a Jack of All Trades. He can probably Band-Aid on every line at some point.

Chris the Intern:

I have an odd feeling that Strome is going to surprise everyone in Edmonton and kill it. I truly hope he’s the underdog that comes in and exceeds his expectation to replace Eberle.

Baggedmilk:

I think Nuge is going to have a much better year and I don’t know why. I think he sees the writing on the wall and will come out like a house on fire to try and prove his worth. Then again, maybe that’s just my inner fanboy coming out.

4) @srheth asks – Why do the Oilers suck super hard at social media/fan outreach/in game experience when compared to Kings/Stars/etc? Dedicated fanbase? No need to try? Am I being too hard on them?

Robin Brownlee:

What is it that you expect from social media? I don’t know if the Oilers suck or not because I’m not a big consumer of what’s put out 140 characters at a time. In terms of providing useful information, at least to media outlets, I’ve always found San Jose’s staff at or near the top of the NHL.

Jason Gregor:

You can’t force it. Kings and Stars have some witty/funny people running their social media. I sense Edmonton is much more conservative though. Likely a Canadian thing — we seem to be more conservative and reserved by nature.

Lowetide:

I like the Oilers web updates (draft, prospects) and they seem to be good at sending out video. I’m not exactly sure what else there is, but I’m fine with current levels.

Matt Henderson:

They aren’t interested in “fans.” They broke fans down into different tiers and are going after only the pocket books of the wealthiest among them. We know that based on the words that came from the highest levels of their organization. Why spend more resources on plebs when they aren’t going to be getting any more money out of them?

Chris the Intern:

This is sort of a fun topic for us because we try to do the exact opposite as the Oilers on our social media. I honestly couldn’t tell you though, but they appear to be severely lacking compared to the rest of the league.

Baggedmilk:

I know a little bit about how the Oilers social media works and there are hoops they have to jump through just to get a tweet out. It’s hilarious how they have to get every little thing approved just before putting out something as mundane as an intermission score summary, and the idea of having some fun doesn’t really fit into that model. Their in game experience has gotten better but it’s still completely lame compared to a place like Nashville.

5) @toomanylives asks – I was listening to TSN1260 last week and heard a couple of folks discuss the Ed Sheeran concert. Feels like Ed is one of those artists that a lot of people don’t like to admit they love, but still secretly enjoy his silky vocals and gingery ways. What is one “guilty pleasure” band or artist, that you love listening to, but you maybe are a little embarrassed admitting you’re a fan of?

Robin Brownlee:

I honestly can’t think of any band or performer I’m embarrassed about enjoying, but then I’ve never sought validation for my musical preferences.

Jason Gregor:

Hard not to respect Sheeran. The guy can sing.

I like Bieber. He’s in a tough spot, but kid is very talented and his music is catchy.

Lowetide:

I like Neil Diamond. I sing Sweet Caroline so loud my neighbour throws stuff at me. Don’t care.

Matt Henderson:

ABBA. There. ARE YOU HAPPY NOW???

Chris the Intern:

I’d like to begin by saying I’ve never hidden my extreme love for Eddy. With that said, my guilty pleasure artist is without a doubt, Hunter Hayes. Don’t @ me, he’s amazing.

Baggedmilk:

I’m super into Ed Sheeran and think his song Castle on the Hill is a hell of a jam. Back to the question, I’m not ashamed of anything I like because music, TV, comedy, etc is subjective. I realize that I like some stuff that not everyone does and I don’t really care if I get made fun of because of it.

To answer the question, I like Bieber, Ed Sheeran, Selena Gomes, shitty pop music from the 90s, and the list goes on. If you like something, just own it. Who cares in the end?

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  • OriginalPouzar

    It both helps and hurts the negotiations with Leon and his camp.

    Yes, we all know about the UFA years that he gave up – that helps the Oiler camp.

    On the other hand, RJ is a 60-63 point player and Leon is simply a higher echelon offensive player – yes, he played with McDavid but he just put up 77 points – points trump all else when negotiating a contract for a young forward. The contract hurts us in that regard.

    Leon is going to get his $8M, I don’t like it but I’ve accepted it – I really hope its for 8 years if we are giving him that type of cap hit. The key to me now is that the deal gets done before training camp starts. We need Leon at 100% for the start of the season. The schedule is favorable for the Oilers and, if we don’t take advantage of the early schedule and get off to a slow start, the playoffs will be in jeopardy.

    Playoffs are not a lock – there is fake-parity in the league.

    Go Oilers!

  • Mitch92

    With Sekera out to start the season I could see Nurse seizing the opportunity to cement himself into the top four group of defenders. He needs to stay healthy and pump up the offense. We know its there.

  • ScottV

    The concern over the Drai contract has everything to do with fitting both McD and Drai into the cap.

    There should be very little concern over things like he’s gonna be a bust or that he’s unproven, or that 7 or 8 years from now – his play will not warrant the yearly cap hit.

    Drai is almost as cant miss – as an elite player to that of McD. He’s close enough to McD, that for all intensive purposes he’s not gonna miss. Size, speed, smarts, reach, puck protection, vision, passing, shooting to score, special teams, faceoffs, versatility, ability to make linemates better, line matching – and on and on and on. The perfect compliment to McD whether used in tandem or preferably in my opinion as a 1 – 2 c punch.

    Drai’s skillset will break through opposition defences sooner rather than later and with elite regularity. PC knows it and so does Drai and his handlers.

    Gonna have to brace for a pretty big cap hit.

  • Oilerchild77

    “However, I’m not convinced Chiarelli knows how to negotiate a value deal. I feel like it’s only a matter of time before the Oilers announce a full boat payment based on 1 year as McDavid’s Winger.”

    Matt, you are the most pessimistic bloggers on ON. PC has negotiated a number of good deals (Lucic not one of them). Take Klefbom nd Talbot; a top pairing dman and starting goalie for middle-of-the-road money. And tjough you may disagree, I think they only slightly overpaid for Russell, seeing as he will be playing in their top 4.

      • Oilerchild77

        No. You’re definition f a value contract is incorrect. A value contract is any contract that is at market value or below. So it appears I’ve been around long enough to know that.

          • HardBoiledOil 1.0

            if you want pessimism then go over to Copper and Blue. the Oilers never do anything right, lose every trade, draft the wrong players every draft, sign the wrong players, and for too much money and too long of a contract and Chia is a crappy GM. jeez you’d never know we just came off a 47 win and 103 point season because we are doing so much wrong !!

      • TruthHurts98

        And you know he will get 8+ based on what?? We can all guess and be impatient but the longer it drags out the less he will settle for. There have been no offer sheets like so many fans stressed about. He’s a good player and a vital piece to this team but I’m glad Connor signed for what he did stating he wants to be here. He is the leader and cornerstone of the franchise and because of McD this team and every player will benefit that plays with him. Edmonton is a destination for good players now. These negotiations take time. My guess is 7.5 x 8 years, but just a guess.

  • Peff

    I’m on this site everyday but I don’t make many comments , especially negative ones but I used to enjoy reading Matt Henderson articles all the time now he just seems angry ! to the point where I don’t even read his articles anymore .. I blame the ten years of darkness… it’s enough to make anyone go mad .

    • HardBoiledOil 1.0

      even if they don’t have the same start out of the gate that they had last season, the Oilers are talented enough to recover from it. same happened to Nashville last season….slow start but came on as the season went on and made it all the way to the finals.

  • Derian Hatcher

    i don’t know much but I do know this: Watching this team last season was such a high for me – especially that playoff run. I would get so jacked for games that I couldn’t contain myself. Contrast this to the Decade of Darkness and I have nothing but positive thoughts towards the management, the coaches, and the players (especially now that Eberle is gone – hope he has success on Long Island).

    There will be bumps in the road, but I still can’t believe that when Bill Daly turned over that lottery card, it had an Oilers logo on it. A gift from the heavens if there ever was one.

  • madjam

    Draisaitl will probably get a 1M base salary for 8 years , with bonus signings from each year adding up to 64 – 68M for the 8 years Johansen at 8M and high end Stamkos at 8.5M cap hit . Let’s say

  • Roberto

    What are everyone’s thoughts on drafting Benson instead of Debrinkat? I’m really hoping Benson has an injury free season and proves me wrong, but to me that looks like a huge mistake. I’d be very curious to hear McDavid’s opinion on Debrinkat…. I really hope they asked him before not drafting him

  • Glencontrolurstik

    Regarding the “Social Media” question.
    Are the Oiler’s trying to run an NHL team & win the Stanley Cup or…
    Are they trying to compete with the Kardasian’s?
    Can’t do both effectively. I prefer the former.