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Report: Oilers Unhappy With Strome Deal

Sometimes you’re just sitting there, watching Hockey Night in Canada — minding your own business — and someone says something that makes you think, “Well what were you expecting?” It happened to me when Nick Kypreos said that the Oilers were already disappointed with the Eberle/Strome trade and were thinking about moving Ryan Strome already.

As you can imagine, this is both tragic and hilarious, expected and yet infuriating nonetheless. As Nick Kypreos noted in that broadcast, we are uncertain if Ryan Strome brings back any significant value in terms of a return on this deal. It’s interesting that this comes 10 games into this season because that question has existed for much longer than a month. We know what value Peter Chiarelli will give for Strome. We have no idea what ANY OTHER general manager would pay.

Now, there are things about Ryan Strome that I am disappointed about that I didn’t know before. For example, he’s slower than I assumed. But the Oilers don’t have the same excuse that I have for not knowing that about him. They have scouts and access to hours of video. I have Google and Twitter. See the difference? I’m SUPPOSED to know less than an NHL team.

What makes things a little more frustrating on that front is that as soon as Kypreos finished telling everyone that the Oilers were looking for scoring help on the wings, Friedman stressed that the team was looking for speed. So they are looking for the exact OPPOSITE of Strome, for whom they traded Eberle.

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Outside of the speed, he’s pretty much exactly what I figured the Oilers were getting. Through his first nine games, Strome has 3 points. That’s a 27 point pace over 82 games. That’s pretty much right where he has been for the last two seasons.

Ryan Strome has been everything, offensively, that any reasonable person could have expected. Getting mad at Strome for only having three points in nine games is like getting mad at the sun for rising in the East. It’s getting a pet rock and being mad that it doesn’t do anything. Yeah, he doesn’t do anything. You knew that when you spent your money!

Is it upsetting that Jordan Eberle has nine points in 11 games and the Oilers have oodles of cap space and a need for scoring at right wing AND are reportedly unhappy with the player they traded Eberle for?

NO. WHY WOULD THAT BE UPSETTING? IS THAT NOT NORMAL?

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Friedman wondered out loud if the Oilers would be interested in Chris Kreider. What about a 26-year-old, 6’3”, 225-pound winger who can skate like the wind and score between 45-55 points a year sounds appealing?

Before we get our hopes up, I sincerely doubt that Ryan Strome has enough value to be more than a throw-in for Chris Kreider unless he has severely worn out his welcome in New York. I don’t know what the Oilers do if they want to seriously go after Kreider, but if Chiarelli tries for another one of his patented One-For-One deals then I’m expecting a Nuge sized hole in the lineup.

But let’s come back to the basic concept of the Oilers being unhappy with the trade of Eberle for Strome. What the hell were they thinking? What could Peter Chiarelli possibly have expected when he made that deal? He took a perennial 20-30 goal guy and traded him for a 30 point forward. He knew it when he pulled the trigger. What could he possibly have learned in October that wasn’t available for him to know in June?

This whole thing is unreal. Unreal.


Source: Nick Kypreos, Hockey Night in Canada, 10/28/2017


  • Harry2

    Whats unreal to me Henderson is that you are so unbelievably gulable that you blindly believe what analysts speculate Chiarelli feels about the trade.

    Your constant belly aching has become borderline pathetic. The positives that Chiarelli has brought to Edm far far out weigh the negatives yet here we are 10 games in and your crying already about the trade. Embarrassing

      • Harry2

        Kypreos speculated and Henderson was all over it minutes later like a stoner on a bag of doritos.

        And you arent wrong by saying I have a grudge against him. His consistent crying is like being beaten with a bag of oranges.

      • Harry2

        Something tells me Chiarelli isnt crying over anything 9 games in. He leaves that up to hack writers.

        Your mistaken . Those are tears of disbelief that you puked out yet another negative article. And mere moments after Kypreos stated what everyone in the universe knows that Edm is unhappy with secondary scoring. You just got baited hook line and sinker.

        Now go stick another pin in your homemade Chiarelli doll.

      • AJ88

        Do you have proof that Chia is unhappy with the trade. If so do tell. If not, why does this site allow writers to spread rumours yet comes unglued about the rumours of Drai’s injury.

      • jsch999

        Chiarelli has traded:
        Stealing Maroon for Marty Gernat
        Zach Kassian for Scrivens
        Trading Yakapov for anything
        Unloading the amassed garbage that Tambelini and Mactavish acquired

      • Harry2

        The good.
        Signed Klefbom (amazing cap hit), McD, Draisaitl, Sekera, Caggula, Benning. Brought in a high end head coach. Overhauled the scouting department. Traded for Maroon (fleeced Anahiem). Traded Hall and solidified the top pair with Larsson on yet another amazing cap hit.

        Up for debate.
        Lucic signing. Yak trade

        The bad
        Reinhart Trade. Gustavsson.

        Notice how I didnt add Eberle trade? Only a moron would make asumptions after 9 games.

      • Dean S

        6M x 7, for the Looch Cheech Train? Talbot, so inconsitent its frusturating and har to watch.
        Knee Drop Talbot (before the shot). Slid across on his knees (out of position) past the net on the 4th goal tonight. Oh and no proven NHL backup.

      • Dan 1919

        Lol seriously? You just made Chiarelli look good if we stop there. Without Larson and Talbot the Oilers don’t come close to playoffs last year. Done deal. Minus Sekera, further away. Minus Kassian, still getting further away.

        I think you answered your own question if you look at it logically instead of emotionally.

    • jsch999

      I agree there is a lot of negative bandwagon jumpers after the first 9 games of the season.
      Real oiler fans can see that after a slow start the oilers are starting to turn their game around.
      Ryan Strome is also looking better and settling in with each game. The line of Lucic, Nuge and Strome has looked better the last few games and are trending upward.
      Don’t worry we will let all you jumpers back on the bandwagon soon.

      (The sky is not falling !!!)

    • Harry2

      The only reasoning behind employing Henderson has to be that the site activity is low and you guys need an audience. Otherwise this garbage belongs on the back of a cereal box. Not on a site with professional writers

  • oilfan4ever

    I swore to myself that I would never red Henderson’s verbal garbage but I made the mistake of reading this. What a bunch of crap and waste of space and time.

  • Harry2

    This team was the worst team in the history of te NHL. Over 100 years of teams and seasons and the decade of darkness statistically was the worst stretch of any team ever. Two seasons later Edm was in game 7 of round 2. Yes of course McD had a massive part in that but Chiarelli’s track record speaks for itself.

    • FlamesFanOtherCity

      The team went from the 2nd worst to 2nd in the West in one season, but can you give credit for players having career years? He signed Talbot. Awesome. Signed Russell for cheap. It helped. Traded for Maroon, who ate McDavid passes for lunch. Traded for Larsson, who solidified the defense. Kassian, Leon, McDavid, Kassian, Talbot havng career years. Paid big money to Leon for being a McDavid winger. Traded for Strome to save money for re-signing Russell.

      You should really expect regression and be happy when you start to claw back. That’s what happens. You don’t become a contender overnight. Beating the Sharks was great for confidence, but was really not a huge feat. This year is going to be tougher to win unless the same players produce to the same extent. So far not.

  • Rebuilds30

    I agree with Harry2 and the others, How in the world do we trade a 25-30 goal scorer , especially when one of our concerns going in was secondary scoring, and in a fast paced skating league we acquire a very slow skater, maybe where he was selected in the draft had something to do with it, but That was a really , really bad trade on our part, notwithstanding the good things Chiarelli has done here.. This team is nowhere in contention as long as we struggle with both depth scoring as well as somehow acquiring that #1 defenseman this team has needed for years.

  • Go oilers go

    Fact of the matter is nobody expected the oil to make the playoffs last year… this year they are favourites to win it all…I’m not defending the moves made by Cirelli but fact is this team is mcdavid and Draisaitl… all moves made reflect that… talbot will need big increase… nurse and Benning too… can’t have all you forwards making big money…I think back to 1980 oil who upset Canadiens in first round same oil who lost to la two years later miracle on Manchester…oilers are 2-3 years away from Stanley..Yamamoto and pulijarvi are the future right wingers.. Strome is perfect third line Center salary wise….maroon will make 4 mil or he will be gone…future team is….
    ????- mcdavid-Yamamoto
    Lucic-Draisaitl-pulijarvi
    Caggiula-Strome-????
    Pakarinen-Khaira-Slepyshev
    Larson-klefbom
    Sekera-Benning
    Nurse-Russell
    Bear/Jones
    This oilers crew needs to learn how to lose before they win and set their salaries in check… nuge will be gone and maroon won’t be resigned this year…. tough choices need to be made but Stanley in year 5….. just like 1984!!!!

  • Delirious

    Part of this was due to the oil fans who constantly dragged ebs through the streets. His trade value dropped to stromes level because of it. As i said all last year “why get rid of a 30 goal scorer because of one off year.” But nooo, oil fans needed him gone. But hey, 30 goal scorers are easy to come by now, right?

  • camdog

    Interesting first time Nick Kyperos has ever been reported as having inside information. Strome is as advertised and PC put together a slow forward group incapable of providing offense on the 3rd and 4th lines. But the real issue is why did LD have that black and blue eye, I don’t think it happened on the ice. If we are going to sink to the lowest denominator it’s worth asking?…

  • Delirious

    Plus stop with the nuge trashing. The guys on a line with a soon to be career AHL’er (strome) and a guy with cement hands and skates (lucic). He has zero help on that line. Throw him on a wing with drai or McDavid and hed be back in the 30 goal range easy.

    • Klef abs

      He wasn’t Nuge trashing. In fact the opposite. Chia is going to trade Nuge away and we’ll lose yet another trade. It’s gonna hurt. Nuge has been our second best forward this year. Yet PC is going to get rid of him for another bigger tougher slower winger…thanks PC.

  • Petrolero

    youre really short sighted henderson. The eberle trade was all about cap space, not three months later, but looking into the future. Look at how many guys need new contracts this coming season, not to mention draisaitls contract kicks in next year too. Anyone who thinks this team is going to do or die because of one right winger hasn’t been paying attention for the last 10 years. The oilers were known as a fast team with speedy wingers who could score during the worse of the DOD and where did that get them? The problem with this team right now is not speed. It’s the coaching, the PP sucks, and their neutral zone play is abysmal. I don’t know if they introduced a new system or what but something is not clicking. Too many guys making the same types of mistakes for it to be an individual problem. Eberle put up a lot of points for the Oilers and that got them nowhere, why anyone chooses to revisits this beat to death horse is beyond me. Yes Chiarellli has made msitakes, but let’s look at the defensive depth building up in the organization as well as the goialtending and the centre position. That’s how you build a good team. The playoffs are not won by scoring goals off rushes, they are won by grinding down and getting greasy so speed is not the most important factor, and for that there is Mcdavid when needed. Stop saying the Oilers are slow and that’s why they are losing. They are not and it is not. Monkey see monkey do, the phrase do jour is “Oilers are not fast” and then every other blogger and their grandma start parroting the same words. It is tiring.

  • Space Pants

    The only thing worse than whiny complainers on Henderson articles is…..oh no wait, the worst thing about it is the pathetic compulsive complainers.

    Get a freakin’ life or publish something of your own so we can all blast and belittle you. If it pisses you off so bad why do you even click on the article? (other than the obvious fact that you’re a whiny b!tch)

  • Anton CP

    I don’t know why anyone would think that trading away Eberle was a bad idea? Of course it would be fun to imagine a team that has all the best players without ever worrying something called “salary cap”. Eberle has 2 more year left on his contract and he wasn’t producing at expected rate anyway (no show during playoffs) so Chiarelli took the deal that can reduce the cap room also with just a year left on. It may not serve to any purpose but it was the low risk trade that he can work with, but with low risk means lower rewards. The expectation on Strome shouldn’t be that high at all, seriously that how big of the production would you expect out of a 2.5m man?

    • Klef abs

      Then how about not over pay Drai for riding McD’s wing? How about not over pay Russell in dollars and term and a ntc? How about not over pay Cement foot Lucic? This team is screwed thanks to PC.

      • Anton CP

        Overpaid Drais? He was exepected to be paid around 7.5m~8.5m range, and he was paid for 8m. If they don’t pay and somehow ended up letting him slip through offer sheet that you will be 10x more pissed off than now.

        Russell has been doing a fine 4m job, especially without Sekera being healthy. Besides his NTC is modified that the risk wasn’t high.

        Lucic was not overpaid again, he was at the time the best FA on the market. If anything that Lucic would have asked for more money (deserving so or not) if not for Chiarelli. Besides, Lucic also has 50 points last season by mostly NOT playing next to McDavid.

        Seriously, yes that Chiarelli admittingly made some mistakes but the reason behind that was because which he was so active on everything. Trading away Eberle for Strome may not be a good trade but it is the trade that has to be made.

  • steve

    Charelli doesn’t “win” because he’s good.  He’s won because he’s the luckiest S.O.B. out there.  

    Most of the best players for Boston were already drafted BEFORE he got there. He was SUPER LUCKY that Ottawa was ignorant enough to choose Redden over Chara, just as Chara was entering his prime… And the rest is history.  

    Think about how lucky that was… How often does any top pairing defenseman become available in free agency? …Especially one just starting to get good and entering his prime.  That was super lucky!  It was SUPER LUCKY that Chara was available to begin with… and SUPER LUCKY that Charrelli was able to see the under rated Chara play on a nightly basis before he became available.  CHARELLI never even sniffs a cup in Boston without that luck.  All Charelli did was run that team into the ground afterwards through bad trades and bad contracts.

     

    It’s the same here in Edmonton.  

    Did Charelli improve the goaltending; the defence; and the team as a whole?

    YES HE DID.

    But he did it in the MOST INEFFICIENT WAY POSSIBLE… squandering assets left and right; making many of the same mistakes as previous management in terms of rushing players to the NHL before they’re actually ready; and is putting the team in a very difficult spot for the cap in future years by over paying a guy like Russel to a longterm deal.

    The team finally had a good season last year.  All that excitement after a decade of losing, and the worst management in hockey history since Mike Milbury has warped peoole’s judgement about what a good GM actually looks like.  

    To anyone who disagrees… Be honest for a second, and think about the following questions:

    1.  Are you truly happy that Charelli has continued the trend of previous management by rushing players to the NHL before they are actually ready, and risking their proper development?  (Draisaitl, Nurse, Reinhart, Shepyshev, Puljujarvi, and others all played made the Oilers for stretches before they were ready, and had to be sent back down and will probably happen again this year with our latest 1st round pick);

    2.  Other than a few contracts to maybe Talbot and Kassian… What multi-year deal has Charelli accomplished for a NEWLY aquired player that wasn’t an overpay?  If you are truly honest with yourself, none of the contracts he’s done were a “win” or a bargain.  Whether it’s Sekera, Letestu, Lucic, or Russel… they are all top dollar prices for the market, or flat out overpay contracts.  You may think this is no big deal, but agents can smell this weakness and use it to inflate contracts for young players in future negotiations… Especially those who benefit by having artificially better stats by being on a team with Mcdavid.

    3.  Do you honestly approve of all the assets he’s squandered to finally acheive 1 additional good defenseman and goalie + 1 underachieving forward?

    All that’s left after trading Hall + Eberle + Virtually an entire draft’s worth of picks (16th + 33rd + 57th + 79th + 184th) + Marincin + Davidson is…. Larsson, Talbot, and the under achieving Strome.

    If that is not disappointing to you, than I don’t know what is.  

     

    We can argue until we are blue in the face… But all those years of mismanagement led to McDavid.  The Oilers are finally fun to watch again no matter what decisions are made by management.  He’s that good.  The only question is… How successful will the Oilers be?

    – Will they be the next San Jose Sharks who make the playoffs year after year; have many strong seasons; but never win a cup?

    – Or will they be the next Boston Bruins where they are good for a handful of years; win only 1 cup; then fall apart because of cap mismanagement?

    – Or will they be a team like the Pittsburgh Penguins who rise to the top for a few years; under achieve for several years because of bad management; then rebound with a better New management team to be dominate again, and win multiple cups?

    – Or will they be a team like the Chicago Blackhawk’s who are legit contenders to win a cup almost every year for almost a decade, and actually win several?

    Im not getting my hopes up with Charelli.

  • RJ

    What’s funny is that if you read any New York assessment of Strome, he was a third line player is with upside. Based on the stats, that’s what he is showing.

    The real question is why Chia would be disappointed. Maybe he thought if he kept trying he would finally win a trade with Snow and this wasn’t it either?

  • LaRock

    Enters blog to see what is being said.

    Gets to third paragraph…the point where this is said. ” I’m SUPPOSED to know less than an NHL team.”. Looks at blogger name. Ah. Henderson. The blogger that thinks he knows better about many players, than the people that work in the industry, but really doesn’t.

    Stops reading Hendo the Hack.

  • Mahaloeh

    Team talk….at the end of last year & into playoffs the Oilers put Lucic Draisaitl & Slepyshev together. They had speed, played heavy & got a lot done against other teams best lines. My question is why hasn’t Slepyshev been given a serious chance? He has speed, size & an unbelievable heavy shot! Why not Lucic Nuge & Slepyshev for instance? And a real shot, not a period or 1 game! I thought Strome looked good with Caggiula & Kassian on his wings? Too much juggling in my opinion (over coaching), especially when there’s a history of some of these players playing together & having success.

  • Bob Lawblaw

    In my opinion, Kipreos simply took the common opinion of Strome by Edmonton fans and media and wrote a story. I doubt anything west of Toronto interests him enough. Have the Oilers played 10 games yet? Do we need to crucify anyone yet?
    It seems to me that the local media feeds off of the vocal minority to sell their papers or their radio time. I am of the opinion that the silent majority understand and trust the decisions of the current coaches and management.
    I also believe Edmonton has the best and most knowledgeable hockey fans but patience is needed to let this team continue to build.

  • Bob Lawblaw

    In my opinion, Kypreos simply took the common opinion of Strome by Edmonton fans and media and wrote a story. I doubt anything west of Toronto interests him enough. Have the Oilers played 10 games yet? Do we need to crucify anyone yet?
    It seems to me that the local media feeds off of the vocal minority to sell their papers or their radio time. I am of the opinion that the silent majority understand and trust the decisions of the current coaches and management.
    I also believe Edmonton has the best and most knowledgeable hockey fans but patience is needed to let the GM continue to build this team. Go Oilers Go!!!

  • Bills Bills

    PC traded Eberle because he is a one dimensional player. That hasn’t changed. When that one dimension disappears he is less than useless, especially for 6mil. We needed cap space and we needed more players with grit. Strome has that and thinking that a players first 10 games with a new team is going to spell exactly what he is, just reaffirms my opinion of Matts hockey knowledge.

  • oilerjed

    I’m late to the party on this one but this is pretty weak Henderson. Using Nik Kypreos as a source is ridiculous. This is the guy that throws out any and all thought that pop into his head and creates those wonderful tv moments of silence where everyone else on the panel is not sure what to say next. If you are going to use a talking head with apparently ZERO connections to anybody in the Oilers organization please turn in your ON writers credentials and go back to posting your hate anonymously in the comments section.

    • steve

      Its hilarious how you don’t see the irony in how you post hateful comments in response to an opinion that you perceive as hateful.

      You do realize it is possible that Charelli is making mistakes even though the team had some success last year right?

      Charelli was gifted…

      McDavid, Draisaitl, Hopkins, Hall, Eberle, Klefbom, Nurse, Davidson, and a BUNCH of high draft picks.

      How many GM’s out there in the league wouldn’t succeed in that scenario?

      All that’s left after trading Hall + Eberle + Virtually an entire draft’s worth of picks (16th + 33rd + 57th + 79th + 184th) + Marincin + Davidson is…. Larsson, Talbot, and the under achieving Strome.

      If that is not disappointing to you, than I don’t know what is. 

      • oilerjed

        Hate seems pretty string but critical yes. I have no idea what your comment has to do with anything that was written in the article or my comment? But it was nice of you to stick up for Henderson. I’m sure he appreciates it.