GDB 58.0: Feisty for Philly

Connor Game Day

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Connor McDavid vs. Brandon Manning.

It is a fun angle, but we all know they will never drop the mitts. McDavid is a scorer not a fighter, and Manning can handle himself quite well if need be. 

However, after their meeting in Philadelphia earlier this season, McDavid accused Manning of being classless for supposedly saying he injured McDavid on purpose last year.

“I did all I could defending him last year in the media,” McDavid said after the game in Philadelphia. “Everyone wanted to make a big deal saying he did it on purpose, and he wanted to say some comments today about what went on last year. I thought it was one of the [most] classless things I’ve ever seen on the ice. He said some things and our guys responded accordingly. I guess we can put the whole ‘if he did it on purpose’ thing to rest because what he said out there kind of confirmed that. Shows what kind of guy he is when he doesn’t step up and fight some of our guys.”

McDavid was fired up moments after the game, which is normal. It is hard to just calm down. The only thing I didn’t agree with was suggesting Manning wouldn’t step up and fight. First off, I don’t see why he has to fight for words. To me that is gamesmanship. Manning was saying things to try and get McDavid off his game.

However, if the did say it, it doesn’t mean it was true, and it doesn’t mean he should have to fight someone for saying something. It wasn’t a racist, demeaning or anything along those lines. 

There is a lot of chirping on the ice. It adds emotion to the game, and I love it, but I wouldn’t agree that Manning is a guy who doesn’t step up. He’s fought Patrick Maroon before, so he isn’t a rat, and a verbal head game is different than a physical cheap shot.

I loved how McDavid was fired up during and after the game, though. The NHL needs more emotion, but this morning McDavid it was a non-issue heading into tonight.

“I said my piece last game. I’m over it. Maybe I have to do a better job of not letting guys get to me. I’m just going to focus on myself and play my game,” said the Oilers captain.

It was an expected response, but I believe McDavid has an edge to his game that bubbles to the surface at times, which is great. I asked him if he believes he plays better, or if it is helpful to him, to play annoyed the odd time.

“I don’t want to be sleeping through games, and when you get yourself into the game emotionally like that your game can go to another level. I try to play with a little emotion sometimes, not too much where it gets me off my game, but definitely I’ve taken my share of whacks and now and then I’ll give it back,” McDavid said.

McDavid has four goals and 20 points in 19 games in 2017. He’s still producing, but he hasn’t had one of those games where he absolutely dominates the opposition and every shift has you saying, “Did you see that?” I sense tonight could be one of those nights. He’ll let his actions do the talking.

Manning was asked if he thinks there will be repercussions. “It’s not something I really think about…everyone kind of had some words last game. I think everyone is professional. The points are just as important to them as to us. I’ll handle on the ice, whatever happens,” said Manning.

Manning was not happy about McDavid’s post game comments.

“I was a little disappointed in with the comments of Connor the last game. That kind of bothered me. Where I come from, what happens on the ice stays on the ice.

“He said it’s done, we’re out here to play the hockey game … whatever happens, happens,” said Manning.

Manning was asked if he told McDavid he did it (hit in 2015) on purpose.

“No. Definitely not  Never would. That’s not who I am. Anyone around me can vouch for that,” he responded.

“I was pretty confused when it started. When he’s starting the second period and he’s telling me from centre ice to come on the ice, that’s something I haven’t seen in a long time.

“I was pretty confused by it, and disappointed with the comments after the game of being a classless hockey player. Anyone who knows me, or has been around me, (knows) that’s not my game and that’s not who I am,” said Manning.

I’d guess Oilers fans would lean towards believing McDavid while Flyers fans will defend Manning. 

None of us know what exactly was said, but regardless, it added some emotion to that game, and it’s good build up for tonight’s match.

It is very rare any players will suggest a fight will occur. Both Zack Kassian and Patrick Maroon said tonight is about the two points. Of course it is, but emotions are part of the game and Manning and McDavid could have another verbal sparring match. If they do, I’d expect one of the Oilers physical players — mainly Maroon, because he’s on McDavid’s line — to get in Manning’s grill.

I’d love to see Manning and McDavid get in each other’s face and have the emotion spread through both lineups. The Oilers are built to handle rough stuff, and many of their best games this season came when their was an obvious dislike for the opposition. Those games are great to watch and hopefully we see one tonight.

LINEUP

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No changes for the Oilers. Benoit Pouliot is still injured and he won’t make the start of the road trip. He might join the team on the road if he gets healthy. Kris Russell skated this morning and McLellan expects him to play on the road trip.

Flyers

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The Flyers are a team with a major lack of secondary scoring. Their top four players — Voracek, Giroux, Simmonds and Schenn — have 12 to 23 goals a piece and 35-47 points. No other forward has more than nine goals or 22 points. Sean Couturier has 15 points, Mat Read has 13 and Michael Raffl has 11 points, after 31 last year.

Neuvirth will start again tonight according to head coach Dave Hakstol. Interesting to see Steve Mason sitting on the bench both nights. The Flyers are 0-5-2 in their last seven games in Western Canada.

QUICK HITS

  • I thought Drake Caggiula had his best game of the season on Tuesday. He was flying. He had four great chances, but didn’t bury any. He was also physical (he had a huge hit on Stone), and was aggressive on the forecheck. I believe it was a combination of him returning to the wing and playing with some extra urgency.

    Caggiula was a scorer who played physical in college. He has that edge in his game and we haven’t seen much of it so far. It is easier to be physical playing the wing and he found a comfort level playing the same position he did in North Dakota. It is more of a straight line, up and down position, and he doesn’t have as much responsibility defensively. He also has more energy because he isn’t battling bigger centres down low. I’ll be watching him closely again tonight to see if it was just one game, or if the move to wing is beneficial. I believe it will be.

  • “My eyes lit up. I got so excited I was that open and felt I needed to score and I rushed it,” Caggiula said explaining missing the net on a glorious first-period chance versus Arizona. The toughest adjustment for scorers coming out of junior, college or the AHL is learning how to adapt not scoring every night. Very few players are like McDavid, Crosby, Kane etc. They were used to scoring every game and suddenly when they aren’t, it is difficult to maintain confidence. Caggiula said he rushed his chance last game, and if he had been scoring regularly maybe he wouldn’t have.
  • The Flyers are -29 in 5×5 scoring. Oilers need to exploit them at EV tonight.

WHAT THEY’RE SAYING…

From Broad Street Hockey

With the Flyers losing at 12:13 a.m. today and starting on Thursday at 9:00 p.m., we could very well be looking at the possibility of the Flyers losing twice in one calendar day. History stands in front of us.

TONIGHT…

GDB

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GAME DAY PREDICTION: Oilers win consecutive home games in the same home stand for only the third time all season. They capitalize on another team playing their second game in two nights with a 5-2 win.

OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: It is 2017 and the NHL is much calmer than previous years. I don’t see any massive fireworks involving Manning. (The old school part of me hopes this is incorrect. I like a good tilt).

NOT-SO-OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: Eberle scores a pair of goals. He’s had three two-goal games this year and five games with a single. He inches closer to having as many two-goal games as one-goal outings this season.

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  • Been there

    I would swap out Eberle with Kassian. With Simmons out there, it would provide a deterrent having both Maroon and Kassian, along with giving McDavid more room to do what he does best. No need having McDavid protect Eberle.

  • Big Jacks Meat

    Screw the Manning crap for now unless he is in Connors face , kick their damn butts and move on.
    we want wins and playoffs.

    But show no brotherly love for Philly.
    Pound em.

  • Natejax97

    I counted 3 goals from the blue paint last game.

    More please!!!!

    Go Oilers, 2 points tonight and put the Flamers back down by 9.

    12 wins in 25 games puts us to the 92 point level, should be enough.

    With everyone else pretty much out of it, all we have to do is stay in front of the Flames and we make the show.

    It’s simple….we kill the Batman!

  • Rob...

    “It wasn’t a racist, demeaning or anything along those lines.”

    Your whole argument is based upon the idea that Manning DIDN’T do it on purpose. Conner was cost rookie of the year, bonuses, and a chance to contribute to his teams success. Sure, the ‘N’ word can hurt. However Manning’s actions last year cost Connor a ton, and if he said something on the ice that confirmed Connor’s suspicion that it was on purpose then this shouldn’t just be discarded as gamesmanship.

    I hope Manning gets freaking pulverized tonight.

    • paul wodehouse

      Rob…

      …so freaking right with your take on EVERY level …I mentioned somewhere else before this piece where Gregor defends the Manning mutt (racist? HUH?)that I hoped both Manning AND DelZotto take their pummeling BIGLY tonite then saw that Phillys 15 plays little this year …and comments mentioning softgel 14 taking an instigator? wow ! through the whole piece not ONE mention of Lucic…does he not throttle 3rd pairing Dmen anymore?

      …sure get the two points BUT MAKE A POINT TOOO!

    • OTOF2

      Do you not realize that players talk trash on the ice? For Connor or anyone else to consider what is said on the ice must be the truth is naive. Even if Manning did it by accident he’s likely going to play it up and trash talk McDavid by suggesting he’ll do it again. That’s what chirping is. I have to agree with Manning that what is said on the ice stays on the ice. Its an unwritten rule. Connor should have known this.

      • Petrolero

        An unwritten rule? You’re an idiot. In other sports they enforce the unsportsmanlike conduct which is a written rule. In basketball you get a technical foul, in football you get a penalty. In hockey they only seem to use it if someone hurts the refs feelings. There is a difference between chirping and being classless taunting about a horrible thing you did.

        • OTOF2

          Have you ever played competitive hockey? Your reply would imply not. If so did you feel the need to publicly share everything that was said to you on the ice? Lots is said between players during a heated game but not repeated afterwords. Ask anyone who has played.

      • Señor Frijoles

        Who cares about that “unwritten rule”? Manning is the naive one to think that he can mock Connor on the ice about a career threatening injury that *he caused*, and the “unwritten rules” will protect him from being outed as a piece of crap. Sorry, the unwritten rule garbage doesn’t stand up with Manning acting like the victim – surprised and wounded by mean Connor’s words to the media. Grow up and take responsibility for what you did and what you said.

        My guess is that Manning does not feel that he did it on purpose, but he said that it was on purpose to Connor just to piss him off – regardless, own up to your words and stop being a baby.

    • Agreed. Even listening to McDavid’s comments as he was coming back from injury last year, a reporter asked him if he believed it was done on purpose.

      “No comment”

      -McDavid.

      McDavid felt at the time it was done on purpose and with intent to injure. Whether that is true or not we’ll never know, but using that as ammunition to get under a guys skin is fairly classless.

      Basically the exact same situation as the Kassian – Gagner saga. We all know how we felt about that as Oilers fans…

      • Jason Gregor

        McDavid said flat out last year he didn’t think it was on purpose. He never said “No comment.”

        Here is what he said.

        “I don’t really think it was a hit or anything like that,” McDavid said. “It was just an unlucky play. I don’t really want to get into it too much, but for him to get death threats or anything… I don’t really know what that was about. That is disappointing.”

        And we can’t compare Manning to Kassian. Kassian swung his stick in Gagner’s face.

        McDavid came down wing, lost his balance and all three players crashed into boards. Sorry, those two scenarios are very different.

        • Gravis82

          You cant seriously believe he meant this though right? Its only once in a blue moon that we hear what they really think. McDavid was pissed and was obviously just trying to say the politically correct things.

          Manning was beat and he somehow still managed to take him out from behind. That is called a penalty and is obstruction. Sure it was just a little tug, but its about the outcome right? A little tug at the right time can have the same effect as a massive body check depending on body position.

          Given where you are on the ice, you need to be smart about the likelihood of injury as a result of your actions, regardless how large or small. Not any different than a head shot, where a standard play (body check) turns into intent to injure if applied incorrectly. Or a standard trip, which by the end boards can be devastating.

          Also, McDavid is literally the best skater the NHL has ever seen and you want us to believe he lost his balance on a breakaway all on his own?

          I get that you are not a fan of the Oilers, and this is an attempt at appearing impartial. But frankly I am not even sure why you need to inject your opinion into this. Its old news, the players will sort it out. I do come to Oilers nation to read opinions, but strategic opinions from people who know much more about hockey than I. I don’t need to hear opinions about drama stuff like this from ON writers. I can see it for myself and come to my own conclusions.

          That is my assessment of this component of your article. Please keep in mind, that 99% of the rest of the time, I like the content you produce and read every article you write.

        • Jason – I am referring to the quotes from this media avail here. The specific ‘no comment’ line was not included in the edited version of the video, but was said in the full interview and quoted in the article:

          http://news.nationalpost.com/sports/nhl/edmonton-oilers-connor-mcdavid-wont-comment-on-whether-injury-was-caused-by-clean-or-dirty-play

          And to clarify, I’m not comparing Manning to Kassian, I am simply comparing the two situations not in what happened or which was dirtier, but the fallout and subsequent reaction. Kassian claimed it was an accidental play, then later on taunted the Oilers on the ice about it, as if he were owning up to it and didn’t feel it was out of line. I see a lot of similarities to this situation, again regardless of it was intentional or not, Manning seems to want to make it known on the ice that it was.

  • freelancer

    It’s way easier to get invested in games when there is some animosity. Absolutely don’t want to see guys headhunting or the like but real rivalries are dwindling.

    Expect Connor to put on a show tonight. Should be fun.