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The case for removing Peter Chiarelli

‏This is part two of a two-part series examining if the Oilers should keep Peter Chiarelli as general manager. We’ll look at why the Oilers should fire Chiarelli here.

In part one, I made the argument why the Oilers should keep Chiarelli. It’s a difficult choice to make but boils down to general managers usually getting more than three seasons, especially if they haven’t made a coaching change yet. The Oilers have changed general managers and coaches a lot in the last decade, which should ultimately work in Chiarelli’s favour.

Still, Peter Chiarelli’s seat has to be warm after an unexpectedly tough season. That’ll happen when you have Connor McDavid and miss the playoffs.

He hasn’t made a coaching change and general managers usually get at least one before really feeling the heat. But the Edmonton Oilers aren’t normal. Having McDavid in his prime means there should be more urgency than your typical team.

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The Oilers will have made the playoffs once in three years with a generational talent on the roster, although McDavid was injured for 37 games in his rookie season.

Most of Chiarelli’s big additions have come at a significant price.

Andrej Sekera might be his best signing, his cap hit and term are fair for a top-four defenceman signed in free agency, even with his tough season returning from injury.

Adam Larsson, however, was acquired for current Hart Trophy-candidate Taylor Hall. The Oilers need for defenceman, especially right-handed ones, was great, but Chiarelli traded down and gave up the best player in the deal while still needing a puck-moving d-man. A common theme of his trades.

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Milan Lucic is still a useful player but signed to a buyout-proof contract that already looks incredibly poor. Lucic is on pace for 39 points, which isn’t good enough for his $6-milllion cap hit. Lucic’s contract is a real problem for an Oilers team needing value deals around McDavid and Leon Draisaitl.

Ryan Strome is a competent NHL player who can play wing or centre on a third line, but he’s not worth Jordan Eberle. The Oilers could use a scoring winger pretty badly. This trade was described as a salary dump, but the Oilers never put that cap space to use. They’ve been one of the teams with the most space available all season.

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Kris Russell is a useful NHL player, but he’s a third-pairing defenceman signed to an expensive contract with no-trade and no-move protection. The Oilers defence still needs to improve, but money is locked into veterans Russell and Sekera. $4 million is too much for a bottom-pair defenceman.

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Chiarelli has sent away a lot of talent as Oilers general manager. Mathew Barzal is on track to win the Calder Trophy with Charlie McAvoy and Brock Boeser fighting for second place. Sure, the Oilers never picked Barzal, but Islanders general manager Garth Snow said they don’t make the trade if Barzal isn’t available at 16. Barzal aside, the Oilers still gave up two high draft picks in a very good draft for Griffin Reinhart, a declining prospect that didn’t fill a need. Their prospect pool would much better today had they kept those picks.

The Reinhart trade might be the most lopsided deal in terms of pure value going one way. You can find a similar trade each summer during Chiarelli’s time in Edmonton. Taylor Hall for Adam Larsson in 2016. Jordan Eberle for Ryan Strome in 2017. The Oilers can’t keep trading down and expect to improve, but that’s the way Chiarelli operates going back to his time in Boston. He traded Tyler Seguin and Blake Wheeler and gave up the best player in both deals.

The Oilers’ cap situation is even more difficult next season when McDavid’s cap hit jumps to $12.5 million per year. They’ll need to improve the roster with few tradable assets. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins and Oscar Klefbom are often brought up as trade candidates to acquire a right-handed defenceman and a skilled winger. Given Chiarelli’s track record, getting full value for those players seems unlikely if he’s making those trades.

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Chiarelli’s lack of activity last summer contributed to this season’s failures. Wasting the last year of McDavid’s entry-level contract should be a fireable offence. Chiarelli didn’t improve the roster in the offseason but arguably made it worse by trading Eberle for Strome and not doing much else.

The Oilers need for a puck-moving, right-handed defenceman is still present, as it was when Chiarelli was hired. Chiarelli’s traded away two high picks in 2015 (one of which became Mat Barzal), Taylor Hall, and Jordan Eberle, and the Oilers’ defence still isn’t good enough. Now, they have less assets and more money tied up while still needing to add significant pieces. Nurse is a restricted free agent and needs a new contract, so a bridge deal might be necessary with four $4-million defenceman already signed.

Apparently the Blue Jackets are interested in Jesse Puljujarvi

There’s also the significant lack of prospects in Bakersfield. There’s not one NHL-ready forward prospect and Bakersfield still sits at the bottom of their division, even with all these AHL veterans playing big minutes.

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Oilers Entertainment Group CEO and Vice-Chair Bob Nicholson talked about this season in an interview on Sportsnet 590 with Bob McCown in February. He correctly spoke about goaltending and special teams sinking their season and said they’ve had lots of focus groups say they can win the Stanley Cup in the next three to five years. It’s hard to see the same general manager who couldn’t build a supporting cast around McDavid when he made $3.75 million do it when his cap hit jumps to $12.5 million.

The Oilers still have elite talent, but all precede Chiarelli’s arrival. His task was to surround McDavid with the right support to win but built a slow, expensive team around the fastest player in the game.

Of the current roster, Chiarelli’s additions include Lucic, Mike Cammalleri, Jesse Puljujarvi, Strome, Pontus Aberg, Drake Caggiula, Larsson, Sekera, Russell, Matt Benning, Cam Talbot, and Al Montoya. Patrick Maroon and Mark Letestu were also Chiarelli additions but sent out by the trade deadline. Chiarelli’s group isn’t good enough.

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Nicholson’s interview with McCown preached continuity and confidence in Chiarelli. The Oilers have had six coaches and three general managers since 2010. But that’s no reason to continue with a poor one.

These are crucial years, and McDavid’s entry-level contract is already gone.

The Oilers were right to look outside the organization for a new general manager, they just hired the wrong one. Chiarelli came into one of the best jobs in hockey and has continuously bled talent and added tough contracts in free agency, making their cap situation difficult going forward.

The Oilers have changed general managers four times in the past decade. That shouldn’t stop them from firing Chiarelli.

  • Rama Lama

    Should have been fired after the Griffen Reinhart trade……..it seems that NO one on the Oilers have an understanding of how to assemble a team. Kevin Lowes vision was a small fast team…….we got hammered physically bey every team in the NHL. Steve Tambelleni’s vision was the best kept seceret in the NHL…….he could not identify a NHL player. Craig McTavish vision was making bold trades for which he had little to show for. PC vision is big heavy players that can’s skate.

    Is there anyone out there that thinks we can trade our way to success? I think most fans want us to start drafting and developing players properly………no one is giving us great players without stealing our best players.

    PC needs to go to the light!

    • Connor McFly

      IMO the Edmonton media are brainwashed into putting the blame on the players. So the Oil trade, trade, trade. There is NO accountability for Katz’ buddies. On HNIC Nicker looked like he had been beaten with a sack of rocks. When you have braindead commenters like Lowetide just aching to trade the 1st round pick and skid Nuge out of here. You can tell they are sychophants spewing the party line. Stauffer was a constant critic until they bought his mouth. Absolutely move these incompetents on and start from the top down.

  • 2centz

    People here are franked. Start by firing Mac.T,Howson etc… Somebody,anybody,tell me how MacTavish is the VP and still scouting and assessing talent for this team? Only idiot in hockey,to be fired as head coach, fired as GM and still end up as VP and having input on the club. Mac.T probably phones Daryl, crying like a [email protected],everytime Chiarelli won’t listen to what he says. This team is a mess. Start running it like your businesses Katz

  • Oilpepper24

    Oilers didn’t make the playoffs with Hall and Eberle on the same team. Hall got traded, and after his massive pout fest, was told by the Devils management to grow up already. So now Hall is playing unbelievable, and it took a trade and a scolding to get his head out of his butt. As for Jordan “coward of the oil crush county Eberle”, watching him in the playoffs last season drove me and many others up the wall. I welcomed that trade with Strome. He can score all the goals he wants with the islanders but when the playoffs come and the intensity increases 100% he will hide and coward again. Just like the capitals the past few seasons, best team, lots of points but can’t play intense hockey when it matters and step aside for teams and players that get it.
    Those two players played in Edmonton as if the league owed them something and it doesn’t.
    Hall seems to have figured that out this year.

  • a lg dubl dubl

    The only thing that pisses me off about the Hall trade is PC not insisting on swapping 1st round picks as well. Could have had the #1 pick last year in Hischier. It shouldn’t have took a genius to look at the Devils roster and see they weren’t making the playoffs last year.

  • Spydyr

    The issue with the Oilers is the owner. Need proof look at the teams record under his ownership.

    Hiring your buddies the rewarding incompetence is why the team is such is it is today.

    Having one second round pick in four years is reason enough to clean house. You build through the draft not by over paying for free agents. Find the next one not the last one.

  • AlexTheOilersFanSince2006

    Someone made a good point about the old boys club. It doesnt matter who the Oilers GM is. Hell, we could have David Poille or Jim Rutherford. But as long as Lowe, MacT, and Katz are still around, NOTHING will be fixed. This organizations OBSESSION with nepotism and favouritism are running it into the ground. So no, I don’t think its fair to put all the blame on Peter.

      • crabman

        Motivated sure but who comes into a job because the former employee messed up and then takes that employees advice on, at the time, the most important decision he would have to make. Makes no sense and that lack of judgment is on Chiarelli. Rienhart obviously wasn’t his 1st choice and when the Hamilton deal fell through it came off as a desperation move.

  • Before Pete the Oilers couldn’t compete against their decision. He made them heavier.

    Eberle plays well against poor teams. Stats show that.

    Problem is the Oilers can’t compete against rest of the league.

    Need to find the right balance. I’m giving Pete this off season to get it right or he’s gotta go.

    • btrain

      Love to see where those stats show up. Looking at the current season, Eberle has put up points against 26 of the 30 other teams including goals against SJS, NYR, NSH,COL,EDM, CAR, PHI, OTT, VAN, TBL, PIT, LAK, DET, BOS, NJD, CHI, VGK, CBJ, TOR. He also has assists against WPG, ANA, STL who are all pretty strong teams. Only teams he has not produced against are MIN, DAL, CGY, & FLA which are all currently bubble teams batting for playoff spots.

      • Beer_League_Ringer

        Granted, the stats for this year indicate that Eberle is just fine playing with his new team (and I am happy for him, he seems like a good kid)… But I think O&G Hockey may have been referring to Ebs not raising his play/compete level against strong teams, in tough games, and at the right times. We all witnessed this regularly when he played here, it’s not some elaborate fiction, or misrepresentation of the player. Elite players rise to the occasion against the best teams and at the right moments- they bring their “A” game, or even better (e.g. Connor’s game vs. TBL, Leon throwing the Avs D-man aside like a rag doll to apple the OT winner the other night). Eberle isn’t in EDM anymore because he wasn’t able to elevate his game at crucial times, and made too much money to be a passenger when he has the talent to be a driver. He only has two gears: normal and float. Oh, and look at his goal-vs-team stats for last year and some tape of his Houdini act in the playoffs. There is some good info in there too.

        • btrain

          My point is that we need to separate what is our own feelings (right or wrong) from what is actually evidence based stats. Using the small sample playoff data and his worst season, production wise, of his career is just poor use of stats. This is the definition of small sample size and its a flawed methodology that cherry picks the details that support an already drawn conclusion.

          Fact is, its harder to score against better teams for all players, and its not unusual for McDavid, Crosby, and other undeniable talents to also feast on weaker competition. In fact, this makes a great deal of sense if you think about it. So when one brings up “look at his goals vs teams stats” an equally important detail to check is what is typical of all players with around 20 goals on the season? This way you can measure up Eberle vs other players who score at about the same rate. If you just put Eberle under the microscope and ignore normal league wide trends, it tells you little. If one believe Eberle doesn’t rise to the occasion as much as he should, that is completely their right to believe this, but cherry picked stats/assumed stats does not make this true.

  • QuitForRealThisTime

    If Vegas has proved anything it is that high end talent is not as important in a league designed for parity. If the Pens have proved anything it is that my previous sentence is completely false. But after seeing the Knights success and the Oilers lack there of, the only conclusion I can see is that the Oil are just too young. Knights have very few player under 25 with less than 300 games played. Oilers especially this post Maroon-Letestu team is very young and inexperienced.

  • Butters

    Even if we get rid of Chiarelli, I don’t think it solves all our problems. The GR trade was brutal, but I agree with other posters, that iron was in the fire before the draft. I think MacTavish and Howson have difficulty evaluating talent, defense especially, but they are still around the rinks scouting.

  • OilersBro

    I really like Adam Larsson but at the time there were rumours of Taylor Hall fetching PK Subban. I feel like a broken record saying this but when we traded Hall and Eberle, we should have had Larsson + Strome + a 2nd round pick (or prospect) for each of them – it makes the deal fair and wouldn’t impact our cap

  • crabman

    I had high hopes when Chiarelli was hired, even though he came from Boston who I hate, because he had a history of winning. Three years later my hope of him turning his mess around is very low. I think a coaching change needs to be made. our lack of consistency, poor special teams, slow starts to games and inability to close out games are all signs of a broken system. If a coaching change isn’t made any tiny bit of faith I have left Chiarelli will be gone.

    As far as the trades go, losing 1 trade is forgivable but losing three major trades is a problem. Both the Rienhart and Hall trades stink of desperation. He over paid for Rienhart after losing out on Hamilton and because the Rienhart deal was obviously a bad one come next off season he was still desperate for a RHD he moved Hall for a lower value player. At the time many people, myself included, looked at the Hall trade as Hall for Larsson and Lucic because he wouldn’t have signed Lucic without Hall’s money and roster spot being available but Larsson should still have came over with another prospect or picks to help the system. Better GMs don’t trade their players until they get the pieces they want in return. For a GM that preached patients and a 5 year plan when he was hired he seems to make impulsive, short sighted trades. Same goes for trading Eberle for cap room he didn’t use and a lack of a bigger return. Again picks or prospects coming back as well or hold onto the player until you get the trade you want.

    I think Chiarelli’s best work he has done since arriving in Edmonton has been his drafting. It’s too early to tell on most players but I think he has made some good bets and when we look back in 5 years we will think he had some success in this department. For this reason I think trading away picks for Rienhart and not getting picks back in the Hall and Eberle deals looks even worse.
    I don’t blame Chiarelli for the lack of depth in the AHL because the majority of his picks haven’t graduated to pro hockey yet but I do blame him for not having more of his own picks on the way. The Oilers needing to give up a 2nd and 3rd for Chiarelli and McLellan made the need for Chiarelli to be more conscious of using his draft picks wiser and the need to get more draft picks back. He failed in this department.

  • DerpSolo

    It sucks because even if oilers do fire Chiarelli, it doesn’t get rid of looch, it doesn’t bring back hall and it doesn’t bring back ebs. It just means someone else gets to come In and make the tough decisions because of the cap hell chia has induced. Hell imo chia is the only reason Garth Snow still has a job, because peter is directly responsible for giving them half of their top 6 forwards

  • “The Oilers were right to look outside the organization for a new general manager, they just hired the wrong one.”

    Oilers needed a new direction after the MacT disaster, that’s for sure. Chiarelli came in and addressed many issues, such as team toughness (remember soft skill?), problems in the room (Taylor Hall pouting), and sub par defense and goaltending. He did all that, and it had to be done, but it came at a price. I find it hard to believe that incompetence is at play here. I thing it’s more market conditions. Other GM’s sense desperation. No one is going to help Edmonton win, they want to win themselves.
    Last year, a winning season, Chiarelli could have ran for mayor. This year, a losing season, fans want his head on a stick.

  • Consultant

    No GM will be perfect but to think Chia could have done NOTHING and right now we’d have a top six of McDavid, Draisaitl, Hall, Nuge, Eberle and Barzal (if they just looked at Bob Mckenzie’s list and picked the next guy). Imagine those guys spread over three lines. Sit back and let Hall get hot then quietly allow a bidding war for him, take a year if need be until someone puts together an appropriate value trade offer. Instead three of those six are gone for peanuts. We keep Chia and soon Nuge is out the door too, 4 out of 6 gone for Strome, Larson and probably another “up and coming” dman like Cody Ceci that will end up being another #3/4 dman for us. It’s a sad story that desperately needs to end.

  • AlexTheOilersFanSince2006

    I get that Chiarelli’s moves are perceived as poor, but to his credit, NOTHING is working this season. Again, I need to point out that nothing was an issue last season, but now it is. Are you seriously going go tell me that he lost the Cam Talbot trade too? Yes he downgrades talent by shipping Eberle out and beinging Strome, and yes he overvalued career years, but to suggest that EVERYTHING he’s done is trash doesnt cut it for me. Here’s a short list of what I mean.

    1. Schultz get shipped out and we were happy. Why? Because Schultz couldnt quarterback a PP or defend to save his life. But now thar he’s won 2 cups, now its a bad trade.
    2. We traded the 16th and 33rd for Reinhart. That was a trade that Chiarelli was influenced in making. And even if we kept it, was Peter really going to select Barzal, when he already had Nuge, Draisitl, and McDavid?
    3. Cam is struggling this year, guess that trade sucks huh?
    4. Larsson is a 2nd pairing D-man. Who cares! The Oilers D is BETTER with him in the lineup and we can see it when he’s playing.

    Look, I’m not going to pretend like Chiarelli’s moves are perfect, but if he’s such a “terrible” gm, then how come we made the playoffs with HIM at the helm, and not the clowns who sailed this ship before. Peter isnt stupid. He knows he made a mistake and I TRUST him to fix it. And until he proves me wrong, he has my full support.


    • crabman

      we made the playoffs last year because Talbot had a great year, (+ for Chiarelli there). No major injuries so depth wasn’t tested like this year ( came into the season with a top4 D out long-term with no replacement, big – for Chiarelli here). Many players had career highs last year and were expected to continue to play at that level( big – for Chiarelli there ). In actuality Lucic is the only player playing significantly worse than career averages. So to reduce the teams scoring by losing Eberle and replacing him with someone who’s career average is half as much the team was destined to score less. the Oilers are scoring at career averages for almost the entire team. Chiarelli counted on another stellar year from Talbot( gave him no backup with an established backup goalie ) and everyone either continuing career highs or young players all taking steps forward. This team wasn’t good enough to win a cup last year and instead of adding talent he subtracted talent and added cap space he didn’t then use. He didn’t actively try to improve the team.
      The pk was awful last year and he didn’t bring in players to fill that role or force McLellan to make a change with assistant coaches to improve the pk. All this falls on the GM

    • crabman

      as for the argument he wasn’t going to take Barzal, I don’t think that is a good argument. If he wasn’t going to take him in that spot he was leaving a top 10 talent at 16 where it should have been a no brainer to pick him in that slot.
      even if he didn’t take Barzal there was an abundance of talent at 16.
      Kyle Connor at 17, Thomas Chabot 18, Brock Boeser 23, and Travis Konecny 24.
      to a lesser extent, Evgeny Svechnikov 19, Joel Eriksson-am 20, and Ilya Samsonov 22.
      Beyond those players there are still others that are helping their team right now on elc or top prospects almost ready for NHL time. instead Chiarelli made a desperation trade after the Hamilton deal fell through. All he had to do was keep the picks and stock the prospect pool that was awful when he took over.

  • Spaceman Spiff

    Firstly, kudos to Oilers Nation for going out of its way to provide balance on this topic. The editors deserve a lot of credit for making this a two-part series – one story defending Chiarelli, the other making its case for getting rid of him. Good on ya, folks. That said … I think he’s got to stay, at least another year.

    Last week, Oilers Nation ran a story on David Poile, the GM of the Nashville Predators. The story noted that Poile was poised to become the winningest GM of all time … and darned if he didn’t become that after the Preds beat the Oilers last week.

    Anyway, I’m mentioning Poile because there’s a key part of his back story that’s relevant to the Oilers today. Way back when Poile first took over as the GM of the Washington Capitals, he traded Ryan Walter and Rick Green for Rod Langway, Brian Engblom, Doug Jarvis and Craig Laughlin. It was a brave blockbuster – essentially Washington was trading its second-leading scorer (Walter) for a defenceman who was so good defensively he beat Paul Coffey for the Norris Trophy. Twice.

    It was a trade that turned around the Capitals – mostly. They didn’t miss the playoffs for the next, like, 15 years. But they also didn’t get out of the first round more than, like, three times in that span. They were the poster children for underachievement throughout the 1980s and 1990s.

    My point is this: Poile was the Caps’ GM all through that. Washington’s ownership let him continue to grow into the job, making good trades and bad trades, hiring good coaches and bad coaches, drafting good players and bad ones. Never won a Cup. Barely made it out of the first round.

    Then Poile ends up with the Preds. For their first six or eight years under his tutelage, they struggle mightily. They have finally started to blossom, thanks to some decent trades Poile’s made. They haven’t won anything yet, but wouldn’t you know it, Poile’s now the regular-season-winningest GM of all time.

    Chiarelli’s been with the Oilers for less than three years. After missing the playoffs his first year, he traded Taylor Hall for Adam Larsson in June … and the Oilers clinched a playoff spot the next March. A year after that, the team’s bad – thanks to injuries, slumps, some bad moves by Chiarelli, but also some decent-bets he made that simply didn’t pay off. That’s hockey.

    Should Chiarelli get fired for that? I’ll answer the question with some questions: If you fire Chiarelli, who would come in to replace him, knowing that he’s only a year of bad luck and some decent-bets-gone-bad from being canned? In other words, who would knowingly set foot on such an island of knee-jerk instability?

    You don’t have to answer those questions. Instead, we should send them to David Poile. I bet I’d know what he’d say.

    • Christian Pagnani

      I get the comparison, but Washington was Poile’s first GM job. This is Chiarelli’s 12th year as a GM in the NHL. This is how he operates and it’s unlikely that changes.

      The Oilers aren’t Nashville when Poile came in. They’re not an expansion team, they have the league’s best player and should be winning.

      Chiarelli loses too much value and has put the Oilers in a tough cap situation with his free-agent signings.

      They don’t have time to wait and see if Chiarelli can make good decisions. They need to contact Tampa Bay or Nashville and see if they can hire Paul Fenton or Julien Briesbois. Two successful assistants GMs from well-run organizations.

      The Oilers can’t afford to wait and see if Chiarelli can start winning trades and adding the right support. They have Connor McDavid in his prime.

    • crabman

      Poile would probably say stay the coarse. Followed by never trade your 1st and 2nd round picks unless you plan on making a real run at the cup. Build your team through the draft and from the goal out. and be patient, don’t trade your beat players for less than they are worth. That is his style and that is why Nashville is in the position they are today. Chiarelli obviously has a different philosophy to building a team and therefore what would Poile say is already out the window.
      As for who would want the job? Anyone interested in becoming an NHL GM. There are only 31 of those positions available at any given time and I’m certain anyone currently working as an assistant GM would jump at the chance to run their own team. To be successful in a job like that you must be confident in your skills. And those people always think that if they got a chance they could turn the fortune of a team around.

    • Edmontoncanucks

      Decent bets? Name one?
      It was a decent bet that if you didn’t replace the injured Sekeras with a live NHL veteran player your season would be a fail. It was a decent bet that if you didn’t have a legitimate NHL backup goalie to cover and push the slow starting Talbot your season would be a fail. Everyone knew that Lucic for 7yrs was retarded. Everyone knew Russel for 4m was retarded. Honestly, Chia is an embarassment to Harvard…his mistakes so glaring and obvious a casual fan could of made better G.M. decisions. He needs to be fired. Its just business. He has never won a trade in his G.M. career. Its like hiring a baker who has never vaked a successful cake! Its so beyond ridiculous.

  • CMG30

    Fire Chirelli! He trades down every chance he get, even when he doens’t have to… When Hall was moved shock around the NHL GMs was obvious… they didn’t know he was available! Verbal out of a handful of cities was that they would have offered more. Now we’re down a hart trophy candidate and still have the hole he was traded to fill! Bad contracts, downgrading talent, dramatically overpaying for free agents, wasting McDavids ELC all while pillaging the farm system mean Chirelli needs to go ASAP.

  • lee

    GM’s are put in place to basically make trades, sign contracts and oversea drafts in June.
    Making trades involving high end talent is not PC’s strength, the contracts he signed are not great but they are not terrible. Plenty of worse contracts on other teams in the league.
    The drafts the Oilers have made under his watch are average, but again not terrible.
    For me the only way to build a contender and be good for a long time is top notch drafting, when was the last time a team traded its way to a Stanley Cup.
    My biggest concern for PC is that he knows he has to do something big to turn the tide on all this negativity, this would probably either be trading RNH or trading their 1st round pick.
    The Oilers have been desperate for a puck moving right d man for a decade, well in this draft there are 3-4 top notch such players. Trading the pick would set the team back even further than they already are.
    Trading RNH would be the last of the big 3 (Hall, Eberle, RNH) before PC showed up, the return for him better be huge or PC will be run out of town.
    There are no young right handed puck moving d men that eat up huge minutes and put up big points that RNH will bring back in a trade. No team has more than 1 of these, most don’t have one of these.
    The next bet would be maybe Galchenyuk for RNH and Montreal’s 2nd pick. Montreal are desperate for a center, it would give the oilers something they need, a big strong young left winger and the cap hit is smaller, also getting and a solid prospect out of this trade would help the team in a few years.

  • Tru$Oilfan$420

    The worst thing about pete is simply his inabilty to realize that hes been hoodwinked on every hes made barring the marroon deal withbthe ducks. He has consisently come up short. Obviously the Hall and Ebrele trades were attemps to purge the old blood, but in doing so he has bled us dry. Imagine if Mcdavid had secondary scoring to help him along. He can amazing things but asking him to do them solo is ridiculous. If our gm thinks trading RNH is going to make us better we might need a good old fashion coutd’`eta. Im just sick of tatent being shipped to the east coast.

  • Tru$Oilfan$420

    The worst thing about pete is simply his inabilty to realize that hes been hoodwinked on every hes made barring the marroon deal with the ducks. He has consisently come up short. Obviously the Hall and Ebrele trades were attemps to purge the old blood, but in doing so he has bled us dry. Imagine if Mcdavid had secondary scoring to help him along. He can amazing things but asking him to do them solo is ridiculous. If our gm thinks trading RNH is going to make us better we might need a good old fashion coutd’`eta. Im just sick of tatent being shipped to the east coast.

  • Afc Wimbledon

    I’m not sure you can blame Chiarelli as the team is stationary, regardless of coach, regardless of McDavid, regardless of the barn the Oilers are in exactly the same place they were a decade ago, not just missing the playoffs but missing by a country mile and being a draft pick team without even the advantage of a low cap hit after drafting 4 number one picks.
    By God they are only one point ahead of a team that has never drafted first in its whole history and arguably right now might have a better future.

  • Beer_League_Ringer

    If one makes PC 100% responsible for this season, one must credit him 100% for last season. Logic bomb.

    The reality is that there are a constellation of issues with the Oilers and pointing at one source of failure as the root of all issues is what gifted the fans the DOD (the gift that keeps on giving). Finger pointing got us in this mess, again and again and… Firing PC creates instability, not stability – uncertainty, not certainty. I think if a symbolic sacrifice needs to be made, the lambs should be the special teams coaches. Small changes often produce the best results. This principle has been demonstrated consistently in politics, business and even human psychology. T-McL should be taking the reigns in all crucial areas anyway – show the players that you are RESPONSIBLE for the on ice strategies and instill in them they are ACCOUNTABLE for their performance.

  • QuitForRealThisTime

    Here is a somewhat unrelated question if the cap where to go to 80 million next year. I figure that the Oil can keep the team as is and still have 5 million. Assuming Nurse is on a bridge deal for the next 2 year. How would you guys spend that 5 mil?

  • GK1980

    Just looking t free agents this year and if Edmonton does have a ton of cap space this summer if Chia is smart and plays his cards right he could turn this franchise around. Grabbing any one of Carlson, Bailey or even Tavares (having to let Drai or Nuge go obviously.). Bailey with McDavid would be fun to watch. Does anyone think Chia can pull this off?

    • T.J.F.M

      Seeing as though Bailey was just extended for six more seasons by the NYI, i would be scared to see Chia negotiate a trade. Would probably cost us Draisaitl PLUS salary retention.

      We cannot afford what Tavares will get in Free Agency.

      Carlson is the interesting one. But again, with Chia’s track record, think about how much money and term it would cost us. Then think about which Dman which we currently have signed will be sitting in the pressbox for $4M+ per season, because there is no way that Nurse will not be extended and Chai has an obvious bias for Benning (his signing) and will extend his contract likely before free agency.

      Speaking of Nurse, there is another scary contract negotiation. While it is mostly obvious to fans and media that we need to bridge him in order to save money in the short term, Chia is likely poised to sign him to a max term deal of at least $6M+ per season. And it will be that contract that will justify his position to trade Nuge for a fringe 3rd line winger.

      He will then completely contradict that statement by qualifying Strome for $3M per season out of pure necessity for a 3rd line centre.

      i wanted to puke while writing this because it is so likely to happen.

  • toprightcorner

    Some of the things you blame Chairelli for are misdrirected and are the responsibility of MacT. You can’t blame PC for lack of AHL prospects when he has only had 3 drafts and 2 are already in the NHL. There are a number of good looking prospects only a year or 2 from the AHL and that is on pace with expectations. The lack of prospects is on MacT’s terrible drafting record and nothing else.

    Sure, Chairelli hasn’t added a right shot offensive dman, but the Oilers have been looking for that for almost 10 years. In fairness, they just don’t get traded very often. Weber for Subban was a 1 for 1 of the same position. Vatanen, maybe but the Ducks would never trade him within the division. Those are the only 2 offensive right shot dmen to be traded in 3 years and there was no chance the Oilers could get either one (not including deadline rentals). It is easy to say “go get one” but it 99% of the time, it is a drafted position. You cannot blame PC for something basically no other GM has been able to do either.

  • toprightcorner


    The Oilers were not planning on picking him anyway and if you say that is terrible scouting, what about the 10 other teams that passed over him outside the top 5 players? Even last year, not one person expected Barzal to be this dominant in the NHL.

    Yes, it was a terrible trade but only a complete uneducated fool would say we traded Barzal for Reinhart

  • VictorspOILs

    As a fan you have to be completely delusional to think that keeping Chiarelli will change anything for the better… the idiot has proven time and time again that he is incompetent and clueless… how he ever became a GM and how he ever landed a job with the Oilers is beyond me. He should have been fired the minute he proposed a Hall trade… GONE!!!…. fast forward three years later we don’t have a solid two way defencemen we don’t have a solid stay home defencemen and we have no one two punch that McDavid and Hall would have provided to go deep if not all the way in the playoffs. We don’t have any bait to bring in a top two defensive pairing because the moron traded all that away to in Eberle, Yakupov, etc…. Chiarelle should be given the boot before this season end. I wouldn’t even give him the satisfaction of staying till the end.. Go destroy some other team… The fool that hired Chiarelle should be gone too.