Oilers officially announce Ken Holland as POHO and GM, discuss move and future of the franchise

This morning, the Oilers officially announced the news that we’ve all been talking about around here for the better part of a week now, the hiring of Ken Holland as the team’s new President and General Manager.

Seeing as we’ve all known for a few days now that Ken Holland was going to be the new GM, I was curious to see what kind of information he’d be sharing about his plan and vision for this franchise. When I found out Daryl Katz would also be part of the presser, I was very intrigued to hear his thoughts on the state of the franchise and what he expects to happen moving forward. We don’t often hear from the Oilers’ elusive owner and the fact that he was here today tells me that this is a momentous occasion for this franchise, and, like a sponge, I was ready to soak in everything that was said.

Today’s press conference was a meaty one so let’s tackle it together, shall we?

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As I mentioned above, we don’t get to hear from Daryl Katz very often so we when we do I tend to pay more attention. Reading from a prepared statement, Katz started with a message about Ken Holland’s hiring and what started the process of bringing him into town.

Regardless of what you think of Ken Holland, the man has been around long enough to have seen it all and I hope that experience serves him well here in Edmonton. The question I think a lot of us have moving forward is whether or not Holland can use the lessons he learned over his 36 years in Detroit and apply them to his new situation while also keeping an openness to new ideas. When asked about what kind of authority Holland will have, Katz put it simply:

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You’d have to think that a man with Holland’s resume wasn’t about to step into a situation where he wasn’t able to call the shots. Again, and maybe I’m just skeptical because of a long, hard life as an Oilers fan, but I’ll be waiting to see how he uses that autonomy as it relates to making changes in management. There are guys here that desperately need to go and I wonder if Holland is going to pull out the axe to clean house.

Back to Katz:

This is what I wanted to hear. Right here. Full stop. I wanted to hear Mr. Katz talk about the fans and how we’ve been let down and I was happy to hear him acknowledge it. Again, this kind of small statement won’t fix anything, but it does start rebuilding bridges that have been burned down many times before.

Isn’t it kinda funny how they had to specifically bring up how the org chart will work with Holland as the POHO and GM? We’ve heard all kinds of stories of people within the organization reaching out directly to the owner and I thought it was interesting that those tales were acknowledged. Just me? I thought it was funny.

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It’s all we’ve ever wanted.

At this point, we’re in a “show me” space and anything we hear will have to be proven before some Oilers fans are ready to believe again. That said, I’m hoping that this is the start of that step.


After listening to Nicholson talk about this GM search for the past few months, I was very interested to see how Bobby Burgers was going to navigate this presser. Up until recently, Ken Holland wasn’t even an option to be the GM so I was wondering how Nicholson was going answer questions about the other list of candidates he spoke to. But first, he started things off by talking about how excited he is to work with Holland and have him as a part of the Oilers organization.

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Seeing as these two guys have known each other for a long time through Hockey Canada, it makes sense that Nicholson would be amped to work with his friend. That said, we Oilers fans are very sensitive to this kind of thing because of how the last decade has gone, so we’ll be keeping a close eye on the situation, to say the least.

Given that Holland was granted full autonomy, adding the POHO title to his GM gig wasn’t overly surprising to me. I mean, the guy has done basically every managerial job the Detroit Red Wings have available and having the POHO tag here in Edmonton simply reiterates the control that he has over hockey ops. I get it.

This kinda made me wonder what other candidates for the job must feel. A guy like Mark Hunter interviewed a few different times and I wonder when and how he was told that he’s no longer in the running. Were they led along? Were they told they’re out of the running a while ago? How did this go? It’s one thing to hire someone but it’s another to let everyone that’s invested time in the interview process know that they’re out of the running.

Remember when Dusty Nielson reported that Gretzky was out of the running a couple weeks ago? That starts to make a lot more sense now, huh? Even though we didn’t know about Holland at the time, we did get the sense that the Oilers weren’t sure how promoting Gretzky would be received, and now they don’t even have to worry about it.

Honestly, I would prefer if Ken Holland was allowed to do his thing and that Bob Nicholson went back to pumping out $40 fajitas or whatever it is he does all day. Even in this press conference, I found that Nicholson was the least prepared of the three speakers and there was no better case and point than when Gregor asked about why there have been so few managerial changes over the years despite the lack of on-ice results.

Sure, Bob. Sure.


As for the man of the hour, I couldn’t wait to hear how he was going to communicate with the media and answer questions about the future of the Oilers and how things went in Detroit. I think we can all agree that Peter Chiarelli wasn’t exactly the most forthcoming with his information and I was looking forward to seeing how Holland would compare. To start, he went into a little bit of background on why he chose to leave Detroit.

I get this. If you’re still passionate about the job you do, it’ll never be easy to get bumped out that role, especially when you’ve been in one place as long as Holland has. But now that Steve Yzerman is calling the shots in Detroit, Holland realized that he wasn’t done with managing a team and, in a matter of days, here we are.

We know about the great pieces and we know that Daryl Katz is willing to spend money, but what we need is a manager to put the puzzle together. We need a manager that can look at the big picture and make changes without stealing from Peter to pay Paul. One thing I really appreciated was that Holland continually stated how this wasn’t going to be an easy fix, that there was going to be plenty of work to do.

Seeing as there’s a lot of work to do, Holland wasted no time at all in getting some of that done. Did I expect that he would start with relieving Ken Hitchcock? Not necessarily, but that’s already one fewer thing on the list and I respect that he’s taking care of business already.

I get why Holland would want to pick his own coach as he starts his tenure with the Oilers, but all I could think about was a guy like Ryan Nugent-Hopkins who will be going into his ninth season with his eighth head coach (Renney, Krueger, Eakins, MacT (briefly), Nelson, McLellan, Hitch). That’s bananas. Here’s hoping that the stability that Holland talked about will carry over to what’s happening behind the bench.

If there’s one thing the Oilers have been bad at over the years, and I know that’s a long list, it’s been their quick reactions to firing coaches and trading players after down years, and I’m hoping that the stability Holland was talking about also pertains to that. I’m hoping that he’s more of a ‘measure twice, cut once’ kind of guy rather than the ‘throw a band-aid over the amputation’ philosophy that we saw with Peter Chiarelli. Sometimes you need to be still, be patient.

If there’s one thing Detroit has always been known for, it’s letting their players work their way into the NHL rather than being gifted jobs off the hop. To me, if Ken Holland can fix this one area alone then he’ll already have done a much better job than any of his predecessors. If he can fix the development path of our young prospects then this organization will be much better off than they have been.

As Nick Seguin said in our interview that I posted this morning, Ken Holland likes to put people in place and trust that they’ll do their jobs correctly, and I feel like that’s the right approach for any business. While we’ll likely never be able to know how that works with the Oilers, I do appreciate the idea of building resources and trusting their opinions. That’s what a smart team would do and I’ll be curious to see how that plays out in Edmonton.

Wait a minute… He likes both speed and skill? I didn’t see any mention of heavy hockey!? Oh wait, it’s not 2012 anymore? Music to my ears. Again, we’ll have to wait and see how this gets executed but I really like the idea of adding more skill into the lineup and not just players that are gigantic humans.

I know that bringing in expensive players is the sexy part of this tweet, but Holland is going to have to clear out some major cap space to make that happen. Right now, the Oilers are wedged up against the cap and it’ll be very interesting to see how he works to clear the necessary space without having to include too many valuable assets to make it happen.

One of the things I was really interested to hear Holland talk about was the cap issues that are going on not only here in Edmonton but also in Detroit. To his credit, the guy had a reasonable explanation for what’s going on with the Red Wings and he even included some numbers to back it up, which was a nice change of pace from the generic excuses that Pete would have offered.

Wait a minute… did he just own his mistakes? That’s a thing that managers can do? Holy hell!

I was waiting for the Keith Gretzky questions to come up, and it makes perfect sense that the Oilers would want to keep him around as part of the solution. I don’t think anyone here believes that Kretzky can’t be a productive part of the solution for fixing the Oilers, but rather that he wasn’t ready to take over as the full time GM and that’s a pretty big difference. If he does decide to stay aboard, I assume he’ll take on a bigger role in amateur scouting where he seems to shine. Gord knows the Oilers need more good players.

Speaking of good players, how could Holland not be asked about Connor and Leon? These two are going to be his crown jewels going forward and it will be absolutely crucial that he finds better players to help them. I liked that he talked about surround the core with more skill. I like that he acknowledged how much works there is to do. I like that he doesn’t seem to be shying away from what probably looks like an insurmountable task. Now let’s see if he can execute.

We’ve heard rumblings for a while now that the players weren’t overly pumped with Hitchcock’s style of coaching, and I’m sure this will be welcomed news for some of the players. That said, it’s also not uncommon that a new GM would want to bring in his own guy, specifically one with a longer shelf life than what he’d get from Hitch.

Holland specifically mentioned the 10 years he worked with Mike Babcock and the four years he’s worked with Jeff Blashill as further examples of the stability he wants to bring to the organization. I don’t know who that coach will be but I will admit that I appreciate the approach of trying to find the best fit and not just the best fit for right now. Now, if only he can take care of that pesky culture problem we keep hearing about.

I said it on yesterday’s Real Life Podcast and I’ll say it again here now: No one was complaining about the Oilers’ culture in 2016-17. No one was talking about this stupid buzzword when the team was winning and it was encouraging to hear Ken Holland talk along those same lines.

Hook this answer into my veins, Ken. Whoa, baby.

If you ever want to find out a lot about a person you can do that when things aren’t going well, and that’s certainly the case around the Edmonton Oilers right now. What will be interesting to see is how Ken Holland decides on who stays and who goes.

One thing I know a lot of people were wondering about was Holland’s willingness to use analytics. While he did suggest that analytics are a tool that should be factored into decision making, he didn’t really specify how much he’d be using them or relying on them when it comes to player personnel. If there’s one concern that I had from this presser it was surrounding the reluctance to go all in on analytics. That said, we’ll have to wait and see how things go.


When I saw that there was a press conference happening this morning, I was very curious to see how many actual questions would be answered and how much information the panel would volunteer on their own. I wanted to see if this presser was going to come with any sense of accountability and I was happy to hear that it did. Not only did Ken Holland own up to the mistakes he made in Detroit, but we also heard from Daryl Katz about how Oilers fans deserve better than what we’ve gotten. Now, don’t think that a few sorries and “we know we made a mistake” lines will fix everything that has happened over the past 13 years, but at least it’s a start and at least they’re making an effort to reconnect with the fanbase. To me, I took those words as a step in the right direction as compared to the combative tone that we’ve seen before in these types of situations.

At least for me, this press conference gave me some hope that there may finally be a clear direction for the Edmonton Oilers. I don’t know why but I believe Ken Holland when he says he has a plan more so than I ever did with Chiarelli. Am I wrong? Yeah, they’re going to have to prove that to be true before many of us are willing to drop our guards again, but I also believe that we have to keep an open mind and give Holland the chance to get things right. There’s no doubt that his to-do list will be long and that the heavy lifting has yet to even begin, but we have to hope that this time will be different. We have to hope that all of the years of experience that Holland is bringing to the OEG offices will be used for good and not for shooting one’s foot off as was the case in Chiarelli’s reign of terror. Call me a bandwagon boy, naive, or whatever you want but I left today’s presser feeling cautiously hopeful about what’s to come. Here’s hoping I’m not wrong again.

What did you guys think?

  • Hemmercules

    Cautiously optimistic. Lets see some results Ken. Im not expecting anything too major on the roster front this offseason but some good drafting and a couple additions/subtractions where the Oilers don’t get fleeced will be a welcome sign.

    • jesse says yep

      I think this is where an experienced hockey guy with Holland’s reputation will really help the Oil. Teams aren’t going to bow down and give him whatever he wants but I do think his ideas will get a more fair consideration from other GMs

    • QuitForRealThisTime

      Not me, head first into the shallow end! Ken will crush it and the Oil will be a cup contender and be competitive for 20 years. This is it! I feel it! Go Oil!

  • CMG30

    Sounds good but so does everyone who comes in. I get that Bobby promised Ken full autonomy but considering how defensive Bobby got when the questions started to touch on management, I will be interested to see how much ‘soft pressure’ comes to bare when the owners friends’ jobs are threatened.

  • SnowMan8

    I personally will remain optimistic and hope ken Holland can pull this team out of this nose dive. There will be plenty of time to be miserable and negative if he fails. I liked his attitude and after last couple seasons I welcome the change.

    • hammer313

      Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth! Love that quote and it holds true, let’s wait and see, but the first sign of OBC love and Ken will be ‘punched in the mouth’, by the fans!

    • Vanoil

      Actually he admitted he doesn’t have one, he is relying wholly on his “proven experience” to guide him in what needs to be done. What he said was that the OIL have to follow the Plan, stick to it, long-term… but what exactly that was, he still had no clue because he hasn’t even begun his diligence … Other than letting players over-ripen in the AHL until they are NHL ready, the plan is to rely on his proven track record. But don’t worry, “there are great pieces in place already”….

      • Hemmercules

        Why are people looking for this mythical “plan” that outlines every move the oilers want to make in order to win a Stanley cup?

        There is no plan. No teams have a plan. The path to building a team isn’t linear. You dont just add who you want when you want for whatever you want pay them. The plan for every NHL team is make the playoffs and see what happens. You add the right people and they do what they can to build the team into a playoff team.

        As far as I can tell, the plan is for Holland is to check out some of their prospects over the next few days, evaluate and clean out the junk in the front office, add his people where he wants them, find a coach and prep for the draft. Beyond that, its just whatever his experience brings to weed out the passengers.

        • cityofchampions

          I was going to say something like this, but you nailed it. Good managers are good decision-makers, put good people in place, have the ability to take advantage of opportunities as they arise and the ability to adjust and adapt to changing situations. 5-year plans didn’t do much for the Soviet/Chinese economies….you have to adapt as you go along and react to market forces to succeed. You can’t plan for “heavy hockey” and then stick to that plan when the league now prioritizes skilled and fast players, or be small and skilled when “heavy hockey” was the thing. Knowing your market and adapting for it is the key, not to have a preconceived “plan”

  • GK1980

    My reaction is Meh….I am full on skepticle. Hope all the best to Holland and speedy recovery for Mr.Katz.

    Holland is going to need all the luck he can get. Many years of mediocrity and suckage has made this fan very apathetic towards the club.

  • Oscar

    How familiar does this sound to Oil Nation … ?

    “I am bitter”, Jim Costa of ESPN 96.1 in Michigan said. “This man destroyed my hockey team for a decade. Do I have a right to be bitter?

    “I never bought the idea that Ken Holland was on board with Yzerman showing up. I think he was pushed out. And good for (owner) Chris Illitch, (new GM) Steve Yzerman and company, whoever made that final call to get Ken Holland out of the GM chair. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

    “This was coming. Ken Holland was forced up and eventually forced out and it’s probably a decade too late. But this is a great day for the Detroit Red Wings… Ken Holland drove this franchise into the ground. After 2009 when they appeared in the Stanley Cup Final and lost, we have stared at a decade of incompetence. Three playoff series wins in ten years when they’ve been trying to win. Resisting a rebuild and still putting out that subpar performance, signing mediocre players to five, six and seven year deals, giving them no-trade clauses on top of it. Bought at every single deadline up until about 18 months ago, when he had no choice (but to be a seller).”

  • Goaltender Interference

    Speaking of ‘putting good people in place’ there are still several very awful people in place in the organization. Still waiting for those pieces to get kicked to the curb…

  • FutureGM

    The biggest question I have moving forward is whether or not Holland will be hiring an AGM or not. From the sounds of how he operates he will, but this would be a nice thing to know before potentially renewing seats.
    Not a fan if Keith is the only manager lined up to replace Holland when he eventually retires

  • RJ

    The other thing is that speed and skill sound great. That’s the way the game is played.

    But to really take advantage of speed and skill, you need quality puck moving defencemen, which the Oilers haven’t had forever. Rip it around the boards every time is not a breakout play for the remaining teams.

    One trade won’t fix this problem. But one trade could alleviate the problem.

  • AlexTheOilersFanSince2006

    My final thoughts on the hire so I can put this to rest.

    1. I wish Darryl a speedy recovery and I hope he knows he can help make the changes necessary to make us good again.
    2. I like what Ken said, especially about “creating new history” and forgetting about living in the past.
    3. I’m still pissed that they once again lied to us (and I’m surprised all of you are okay with that). They said there’s be an interview process. They said they were gonna take their time. Did they with Holland. Nope!
    4. Lets see what he does
    5. They have 2 years left to win me over or I’m done with this team

    • TKB2677

      What I don’t get is that I keep seeing people say “Holland didn’t get an interview”. Nicholson said he talked to Holland and other media guys confirmed it, that Holland was approached a while ago. Then Holland said after the U-18’s he decided he wanted to be a GM and he had multiple talks with Nicholson. Holland has been a scout, GM and hockey Exec for 36 yrs for a very good organization. He’s been in the same circles as Nicholson and even worked with him for decades. He knows the guy personally. What mysteries do you need to find out with Holland? You need to talk about what he sees as the Oilers problem, what changes he thinks need to happen and how he will do it. You don’t have to worry about finding out about the man personally or if he is qualified to be a GM. So considering they talked multiple times, you don’t think they talked about the Oilers and what he would do to fix the team?

      I am not sticking up for Nicholson because I am not thrilled he is the CEO and I don’t even know if Holland was the right choice right now but what exactly would you call an interview? I have done phone interviews lots.

  • BobbyCanuck

    Speed and Skill eh? Am I the only one on ON that actually watches the play-offs?
    Yes, speed and skill is important, but…
    1) Watch the Bruins play-off run
    2)Watch the manhandling of Tampa, Flames and NYI (albeit, in the second round)
    3) Blues vs Stars
    4)Sharks vs Avs

    Yes speed and skill are important in getting to the play-offs. The teams left are playing some of the heaviest hockey I have seen

    • Glencontrolurstik

      I tend to agree with you. It’s two different seasons… The refs putting away their whistles doesn’t help much.
      To your point though, it’s almost like you need two teams to go all the way… Keep the heavy guys in the minors all year. Or just keep guys like Lucic, Maroon & Perron around all season and let them shine post season,… it’s a team game… But you are right. I just wish the refs called a consistent game, from reg season into the playoffs. No wonder guys like Janny Hackey can’t hack it.

    • Serious Gord

      It’s a delicate balance. I think speed and physical ruggedness are what matters – teams that are slow didn’t make the playoffs. Carolina is not a heavy team. Washington hammered them but lost in large part due to the canes level of conditioning and ability to absorb the punishment.

    • Derzie

      Need 2 teams (unrealistic) or a team that balances the two (speed/skill and tenacity/strength). Size & heavy are secondary factors but help if you have the main attributes.

  • Spoils

    Ken is on it

    kidding… “I’ve gone over (the salary cap here) and I’d say most teams have cap issues — that’s the reality.” I liked this quote. I feel like Pete immediately adopted a position of weakness. From the terms given up for free agents to being OK that the market for Taylor Hall was Adam Larsson…

  • RJ

    I’m curious what he does with a player like Puljujarvi. The win-now segment of the fan base wanted JP in the lineup from day 1, and it’s obviously hurt his development. What kind of player is he?

    I’m also curious how many college free agents, if any, the Oil start to pursue. Detroit signed quite a few college free agents as well as stocking up on draft picks. It would be nice for this to continue.

    The Oilers player acquisition strategy seemed to be; try it once and if it didn’t work, never try again.

  • Derzie

    Given that a GM’s impact is assessed across years, today’s presser was a best case scenario for weather-beaten Oil fans. Mostly positives with the only negatives being Nicholson soiling the precedings by opening his mouth. Holland is impressive. The results will speak for themselves but he pushed all the right buttons today.
    Also, I’m in the anti-OBC side of the ledger, but all of that disappeared given what we learned that Katz is dealing with. Wish him nothing but the best in his fight.

  • Viperx

    First, Conner is the greatest player in the league, not Maybe. Also, draisettle did not just have a great second half, he had an amazing full season. Other than that and the 1920 playoffs, he did well

  • Lazarus

    Very curious to crop the team owner out of the picture for this article as well as the one preceding it. In both cases the OWNER OF THE TEAM is sitting to Holland’s left. In both the pictures show Nicholson and Holland only cropping out Katz.
    Is there a reason for this? Usually the owner of the team is in those sorts of shots…I sincerely hope that it wasn’t because of his appearance..Tell me that isn’t why.
    An owner is almost always in the GM hiring photos… Wow

      • Derian Hatcher

        Can you imagine the life lazarus has? Trolling on ON for giggles while most others post constructive comments. What a pathetic, uninspiring life one must lead to get thrills from doing what he does. But I suppose when a person is left behind most of society in terms of being able to express rational, constructive thoughts you are left with, well…..him (or her).

        • Lazarus

          Not trolling for giggles. In fact I find it rather disgusting that this site would crop the owner of the team and the man that hired Ken Holland on 2 consecutive articles. Do you have an answer or are you just throwing insults as usual.
          I have never seen a GM hired without accompanying pictures of the GM and I think it’s wrong. The man is sick, we all know that..is that a reason to eliminate him from photographs? If there is a reason I would love to hear it. I hate to think the reason is linked to his illness but I don’t know of another reason why. If there is I would love to hear it.

    • Lazarus

      I just think it’s a complete farce and entirely hypocritical of this site to say we all wish Katz the best and says all the right things regarding Darryl Katz who I have never bad mouthed once, and then crop him out of Gm hire photo for.the article..not once but twice.
      Stay Classt Edmonton

  • Jobu

    Hate to say it guys. But there will be no quick fixes for this club. It will be another couple of years before the club becomes competitive again.

    How many more losing years can McDavid take? And if he does decide to demand a trade will it derail whatever plan Holland has in place.

    Who knows… Maybe trading McDavid is a part of that plan.

  • camdog

    The Oilers actually have prospects in the system now, they just need proper guidance. I’m not highly optimistic about next year – need to shed salary and allow these guys to develop.

  • FlamesFan27

    I think this is a really good hire. But, then again I though that about the last GM.

    I think (maybe fear) that the Oilers are not that far away from being a very strong team. They have the best 1-2 punch in the league, and that’s the hardest part to get – and they are both very young and still improving. They just need a few more 15 goal scorers instead of 6 goal scorers. They also need one more decent defenseman to cover when they have an injury.

    • Serious Gord

      The hardest part to get is stud goaltending. Followed by #1 pick moving D.

      Look at the teams still in the playoffs. Great Goalie and or stud d pairing are the most vital.

      Star centres are too expensive and we have two.

    • Hemmercules

      He mentioned coaching is his first priority after going to watch Bakersfield for 2 or 3 games this week. I think evaluating the scouting, assistant coaching and player development staff is next. Then draft. Being that he was just a gm I wouldn’t think he is super behind on his draft knowledge so it won’t take him months if prep for that but he should have his scouting and assistants in place by then. He mentioned every team has cap issues, that will come with time. With a 12.5 million dollar player I think cap issues will be a thing every year no matter who the gm is.