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Photo Credit: Anne-Marie Sorvin-USA TODAY Sports

Waiting Game

With all the moaning and groaning by some fans in the wake of Edmonton Oilers’ POHO and GM Ken Holland taking Swede Philip Broberg with the eighth overall selection at the 2019 NHL Entry Draft in Vancouver, veteran columnist Terry Jones decided to pluck the low-hanging fruit.

“Let me see if I’ve got this right,” scribbled Jones. “The Edmonton Oilers hire the most experienced and successful general manager in the league at $5 million a year. And with the first pick of the Ken Holland era in Edmonton, the eighth selection overall, the Oilers long-suffering and venomous fan base was distressed . . .

“The idiot went and picked a player ranked lower than eighth on many published lists and mock drafts?” Then, just to put even a finer point on the barb: “Credit Holland for the best quote of the draft,” added Jones. “The people who don’t watch the games seem to have all the answers today,” he said. The full column is here.

Jonesy was shooting fish in a barrel because, let’s face it, there were a number of over-the-top reactions to the selection of Broberg by people who know far less about the teenagers selected Friday and Saturday than do the scouting staffs of NHL teams, the Oilers included. Still, I can see why fans would at least question taking Broberg over, say, the likes of Trevor Zegras or Matthew Boldy with the pick. That’s fair game.

EASY BUTTONS TO PUSH

Jun 21, 2019; Vancouver, BC, Canada; Philip Broberg poses for a photo after being selected as the number eight overall pick to the Edmonton Oilers in the first round of the 2019 NHL Draft at Rogers Arena. Mandatory Credit: Anne-Marie Sorvin-USA TODAY Sports

Given busts like Nail Yakupov and what’s happening with Jesse Puljujarvi right now, framed in a dozen seasons of failure in the last 13 years, it doesn’t take much to push the buttons of some Oilers’ fans. Essentially saying, “keep quiet and stop complaining because Holland knows what he’s doing,” isn’t going to sell, even if that failure isn’t on him.

The reactions of the frazzled few — there simply is no pleasing them — in the comments section here and on other sites were hysterical, but questions about the selection are to be expected and are reasonable, especially with the Oilers having some depth of prospects at the position. Why Broberg?

“I’m certainly aware we need forwards, but we need a good defence,” Holland said. “I think back to our team (in Detroit) in ’08 when we won the Cup. We had Lidstrom, we had (Brian) Rafalski, we had (Niklas) Kronwall, we had (Brad) Stuart. A really top notch top four. All mobile, they could skate, handle the puck, get back, pivot and get the puck snapped back up into our forwards hands.”

While there is no reasonable facsimile of Lidstrom, Rafalski, Kronwall and Stuart with the Oilers now, point taken. Mobile puck-movers on the back end rather than plodding behemoths who can’t dish the rubber are the way to go, and Broberg projects as that. Fans around here have lamented a lack of that dimension for years. Even with some maybes in the pipeline, there is no such thing as having too much of it.

If a team is lucky enough to have a surplus of blueline talent — it’s wildly premature to suggest that’s the case with the Oilers — then you sort it out, decide who to keep and move the extra parts to acquire other players you need. As pressing as the lack of scoring up front is, and allowing that a forward like Zegras or Boldy might provide results sooner, building from the back end out is tried and true.

THE WAY I SEE IT

The reality is, and this shouldn’t be a news flash, is that we don’t know how the selection of Broberg Friday is going to work out. Holland doesn’t know. I don’t know. You don’t know. Questions about the selection because it didn’t exactly line up with many mock drafts and projections are one thing. Declaring it a failure or a home run before the kids have even flown home for the summer is buffoonery. That should be obvious.

Does getting Raphael Lavoie from Halifax with the 38th selection when he was ranked much higher guarantee he’ll be something special? No. I think Lavoie might be a helluva pick, but I’m not going to write him into the line-up in pen any time soon because of where he was ranked going into the draft. If a particular scouting staff is confident enough in its list, consensus doesn’t matter the way it does to outsiders like you and me.

History tells us that what a young prospect like Broberg does after his draft day — and what the team does with him — is every bit as important as what he’s done leading up to it, especially with kids ranked single-digits apart at the top end of their draft class. Like it or not, that has to play out and we’re all of 48 hours into that process.

Previously by Robin Brownlee



  • MrBung

    I am interested in seeing what this team on the ice next season. Broberg factors into that zero. The biggest question this franchise has is how any seasons can McDavid miss the playoffs before he wants out. That is everything.

  • Clayton

    I am not a big fan of Broberg at 8, but if the Oilers were wanting to draft a top end D-prospect they had to do it then. By the time the Oilers picked next 8 other D-prospects were off the board. I think 8 was high for Broberg so I would have liked to see the Oilers trade down and pick him and acquire another pick along the way. Even better, trade up and grab Bowan Byram, but unlikely the Avs would deal that pick, and the cost to jump into the top 5 likely was prohibitive.

  • Gravis82

    you cant watch all the games. No one can. Thats the problem. The people who watch the game think they have the answer because they watched 3% of the games. And they are right sometimes by accident, and when they are wrong they say it just happens sometimes. You pick consensus BPA because that consensus is based on more eyeballs and is an overall better assessment because we dont have stats for these players. Although, picking the guy with the most goals would seem appropriate when in doubt. Case in point, debrincat.

  • cityofchampions

    Gee…I wonder who Robin is talking about here. “The reactions of the frazzled few – there is simply no pleasing them – in the comments section here and on other sites were hysterical…”. I have no idea, all the comments I see from Alex and Gord are so reasonable and well thought out that I’m surprised the Oilers haven’t hired them into their front office yet. (sarcasm font). To be honest I also questioned why Brody and Zegras were passed over, but I never claimed Brophy was a terrible pick and I didn’t call for the heads of the Poho, GM or scouts over it. Not even the scouts can anticipate future development of 18 year olds. Some have hit their limit already and don’t improve to become NHL players, others are late bloomers and surprise you. The draft is a crapshoot….you can increase your odds with good scouting and management but you never truly know what these kids will turn into. Good luck to Brophy and hope he turns into a gem.

  • Oilerz4life

    The fact that the majority of this Oilers draft will be playing in KHL under MacT next season gives fans something to be concerned about.

    It may not have much to do with Holland but it is still very much “because Oilers”.

    The more things change, the more things stay the same.

  • AlexTheOilersFanSince2006

    People have been blasting me and on twitter for my thoughts on the pick. And let me make one thing perfectly clear here. I DO NOT HATE BROBERG! I’d rather Edmonton have skipped him in favour of Zegras, Boldy, or Caufield, but I don’t hate the kid. I’ll support him throughout his time here.

    Ken is talking and planning 5 years down the road. That’s great. But what about Seattle? Sure we can get a FA or trade for a forward, but it’s likely that guy gets claimed by Seattle. Meaning in 2-3 years when Seattle is a thing, we’re plagued with the same issues then that we are today. He should’ve taken a forward, REGARDLESS.

  • Simba99

    We won’t be complaining again so much when Klefbom sekera or russel go down again with more injuries as usual and if Klefbom in particular goes down it will be time to trade the band aid, don’t know why they haven’t already whenyhe price is high and he’s not injured

  • Bigdaddypuck

    Just finished Jones’s article and I’m so glad he wrote it. This journalist has been around longer than our current radio personalities ( that actually gave that fool Gord airtime ) and the bloggers here. I’ve read his articles since I was kid. His take and Holland’s quotes are bang on! Thanks for pointing this out to the Troll base Robin. These people know about as much as I do which wouldn’t gain employment in any team or minor league team of the NHL.

    • Again, it’s fine to have questions about any pick when it’s gone as badly as it has here for a very long time, but it’s a foolish leap to declare two days after a selection that the Oilers have blown it again (or made a great pick) because that pick does or doesn’t align with your notions going in.

      • Bigdaddypuck

        Well exactly Robin. My favorite statement is “ well my sources tell me “ what sources are out their that are better than the ones that are available to Holland. Zegras played down the road from him did he not? The man comes from a scouting origin I’m sure even with his added responsibilities of team management that he still loves to evaluate minor leaguers. The Oilers have several amazing forwards but how many good teams are built from the net out?

        • Oily Reign

          Exactly, Holland was just down the road from the NTDP. and yet he still didn’t draft one.
          Personally, I think that there is a better chance that most of the NTDP players were/are overated playing on a stacked team playing weaker and lesser trained competition.
          I think Holland knocked it over the fence getting both Broberg and Lavoie. Speed, skill, size, and massive ceilings.

          • OilTastic

            There’s potentially the Edmonton factor too. Do high profile American players want to even play here? And would they re-sign where or bolt the first chance they get?

  • RJ

    I find it interesting that so far KH is taking the same approach as MacT, at least when viewed externally.

    Draft players, hope for internal improvement. No bold moves.

    • Boba The Fett

      Jesus have some patience, maybe he has tried to make moves but other teams are not willing. A bold move that worsens your team is not a bold move, its a stupid move. I like that Holland is patient and not easily duped.

      • RJ

        Perhaps I wasn’t clear enough. He’s taking a slow and steady approach. He’s not making Dubas-type or Benning-type gambles.

        Fans hammered MacT for the lack of bold moves, cheered for Chia’s bold moves and then recoiled in shock when they saw how bad some of these bold moves blew up.

        Holland may be looking at trades, but he doesn’t seem to be one who’ll foolishly rush like Chia did in an effort to speed up the re-build.

        I guess where I’m going with this is that people had the pitchforks and torches ready for MacT because he didn’t make a ton of bold moves, but Oilers media is going out of their way to preach patience.

  • M22

    Solid article, Robin.

    Fellow Oilers fans – the new regime is in full swing, the Draft is over, free agency is almost upon us, and then, after what will seem like an eternity, training camp will open. Now is the time to take stock – NOT of the team, nor management, nor anything else associated with the Oilers organization. Feel free to debate and deliberate their fortunes and/or failures, as you will. But, let’s all exhale for just a moment (or twelve), take our focus off of the Oilers, and give time, NOT for a reflection of where we’ve been (I won’t go into detail – you are all aware of the crap we’ve been witness to for over a decade of our lives, notwithstanding the blessings that balls numbered 5, 14, 6, and 1, have bestowed upon us), but rather, a contemplation of what we choose to be, presently, as fans

    I’m talking about a touchstone. I’m talking about recognition of the culture of negativity that has developed (understandably) within and around the fan base, which we are all a part of, and all feed into (or off of, as it were). The automatic response will be, by some people, to not only summarize all of the reasons we’ve become negative, but even worse, all the reasons to STAY negative – this is called “justification”. This is a disease, and no, I’m not kidding. It’s a disease of the mind, and of the culture. The fans who are too young to remember how amazing it was to be a fan throughout the 80s, or for that matter, those who did not follow this organization at that time, have no reference point. That’s okay, it’s not needed. We forged, and earned, our reputation as an intelligent fan-base, a great fan-base, during those years. This is important to understand. It was part and parcel of the culture around the Edmonton sports scene.

    Culture affects everyone – players too. And ours is not a good one. It has become vitriolic, small-minded, and corrosive. And NOW, in this time of CHANGE, it is the incessant, defeatist sniping of the most small-minded among us that preserve and promote this toxic vibe. LET IT GO ! Push the frickin’ reset button, and have some fun watching what transpires, how it transpires, and what comes of it. Let a day or two go by without spewing your unhappiness into the world. This. Takes. Time. Resist your habitual urge to surrender to toxic negativity – it’s a mental weakness. For the rest of us, despite the crap we’ve been through, and despite the mountains of money many of you have supported this business with, I’m sensing a slow and cautious turn towards positivity.

    If the Oilers organization fails to deliver a Stanley Cup to Edmonton, so be it. They will have tried their best. Most teams and cities will not win a Cup in the next decade or two. They owe you their efforts – they do not owe you a championship. Be okay with it. Life has greater hardships.

      • M22

        The diatribe? Or the organizational changes? If you’re talking changes, then your question is rhetorical. We all know how it worked out. What is your point, that they are doomed, regardless of recent changes that have taken place in management? Is there no reason whatsoever to believe that they might find their way out of the desert?

        It’s okay to believe, man. It’s also okay to criticize. I’ve been critical of them. But the amount of pissing and moaning from some fans, three months before the new season begins, is a sad reflection on them, not the Oilers.

        • Petey Summers

          Not at all, it’s called reality. Here’s the facts. The Oil have missed the playoffs 12 of 13 seasons due to ineptitude, mismanagement & other types of bungling. There is a culture of losing here as a result. No roster changes have been made that will affect the 2019-20 version of this team vs. the 2018-19 team that put up all of 78 points. They have all of three legitimate top nine forwards an AHL D for all intents & purposes & a starting goalie that couldn’t catch a cold in Siberia. Furthermore, the new G.M. is renowned for being over cautious as he over seasons players in the minors so don’t expect a lot of help from that area. They are totally against the cap with no room to add players of any significance. That’s the exact reason you saw players the caliber of Spooner, Petrovic & Brandon Manning added last year. Chia had painted himself into a corner & no other options existed. It’s only an ever so slightly better outlook today.

          It’s just foolish to think that this team will be playoff bound next season.

          • M22

            Some fair points. But, considering we’re over three months away from the start of the season, I’d say it’s a little premature to for you, me, or anybody to assume to know what the roster will look like on October 2. And that is the entire point of my initial post – a lot people have assumed failure. Again, it’s habit. I’m certainly not predicting a playoff position, but I’m a lot more optimistic than I have been in the last 10 years, to be honest. The change has been substantial enough that I think optimism is warranted, and indeed encouraged. I’m confident it’s moving in the right direction. In the past, I was only hopeful.

        • wiseguy

          Pissing and moaning is the right if every fan with the failure of the team they cheer for going on past a decade. It’s the same right as the people like yourself have to piss and moan about the negative people who piss and moan about the team. You’re tired of reading their negativity and they’re tired of their flailing team. You may say that they can stop cheering for the team if they’re that upset by the Oil and they could say you could stop reading the negative comments if they upset you so much.
          You say you’ve been critical of them (Oilers) too. What makes you think the amount of criticism you level at the Oilers is the right amount? A more optimistic and cheery fan may find your criticisms overly negative too.

    • wiseguy

      Or we can look at it a different way. Sports give us an escape from the day to day frustrations and provide some joy and entertainment for a few hours. However, since the Oilers have provided little joy over the past 13 years and plenty of frustration and disappointment, we can use them instead as an outlet to yell, scream, criticize and literally Boo! Things we should refrain from doing when we feel the same way about our jobs, customers, employers, employees… Even with the high price of tickets, it’s still cheaper than booze or drugs (and healthier too). So let’s go ahead and let it all out… belittle, chirp, be negative…. it’s all just a game. We’d like to think players care about what us fans think and say – good or bad. They don’t. Toronto is showing a ridiculous amount of love to Kawhi… $$$ and family matter more than 2 million people in a parade.

      • M22

        And one more thing: the players may not care about us in the same manor in which we fans care about them, but make no mistake – they are affected, just as teams/players who are held in high esteem are affected in markets where teams are competitive. It works the same, either way.

      • M22

        Oh, you can look at it any way you choose. Chirping, hollering, booing – all good, in my eyes – that’s what fans do, even in winning markets. The point is not to simply put on rose-colored glasses and walk around like everything is perfect, but rather to understand just how far we’ve slunk into the despair of a losing, caustic mentality. It’s habit now. The air is rife, in Edmonton, with negativity around our hockey team. Whether there’s reason or not is beside the point – it’s time to let go. It doesn’t serve anybody well. You see that, don’t you?

        • wiseguy

          Watching NHL hockey can be like watching a play. It can be comedy… meant to make you laugh, tragedy to make you cry, drama to make you upset, or a horror to make you frightened. At this point, we know the oilers aren’t providing inspiration. So horror, anger, disappointment are what they illicit in their fans and until the plot changes, that is the part of the story we are in and fans are responding the only way they are supposed to. If you watched and followed the oilers for the past 13 years and you are full of optimism and cheer about them, I would think you are a sadist.

          • M22

            Nope, not a sadist. Neither am I a masochist, which, I’m pretty sure, is what you meant. And yes, I’ve been there through all of it – good years and bad. I’ve been negative, and I’ve been positive.

            I get what makes fans tick. We are all emotionally invested, and thus, subject to the roller coaster that is fandom. That part is easy to understand. To pull oneself out of it can be difficult, especially if the team continues to suck.

            But when every move, big or small, by a new management team, is assumed to end in failure, three months ahead of the new season? That’s not healthy, balanced reasoning. It’s ugly habit, and to hold onto it, and nurture it, as some do, is where the masochism lies.

  • BlueHairedApe

    I thought the Jones article blew things out of proportion. Seems to me the fans are about 10-1 in favour of the pick so not sure what he’s making a big stink about to be honest. Negative press sells papers I guess

  • Petey Summers

    It’s one thing to ask Oil Nation for 3-4 years worth of patience but it’s likely quite another thing to ask McD if he has the patience to wait this thing out while Holland slowly corrects it.

    • Beer

      I would suggest McD’s level of patience would be a lot less without Holland. Personally speaking, I am not aware of anything that McD has done or said to question his integrity as a cry baby quitter as it appears your suggesting.

      • Petey Summers

        @Beer

        Did any of Trouba, Drouin, Spezza, Allison, Pronger, St. Louis, Larmer, Primeau, Heatley, Peca, Yashin, Bure, Lindros, Coffey or Patty Roy whisper sweet nothings about wanting to be moved before the publicly demanded to be traded?

        • Petey Summers

          So no then, right. None of the above players divulged that they were about to demand a trade. Exactly as I suspected.

          What makes you think that McD would share such a volatile decision with you before going public?

        • Petey Summers

          Are you purposely missing the point that I have repeatedly laid out for you in detail? The reasons that players demand trades are completely irrelevant. The fact they ARE demanding trades is all that matters. Tell me you expected all or any of those players to demand trades before they went public. If you’re at all honest about this you will categorically state that, of course, nobody expects players to demand trades before they make a public announcement regarding their intentions.

          McD getting totally sick of the losing culture that exists in Edmonton is not out of realm of possibility whatsoever and we won’t know it’s happening until it hits the media. I expect it to be bigger than when Wayne was traded when it happens.

          The clock, it ticks. Holland better get a grasp on this a lot quicker than just drafting a D-man that might be NHL ready in three years.

          • Nor should he, not if it means taking shortcuts to rush things along at the expense of doing things they way he believes they must be done. Nothing good comes from trying to rush players or the process. I understand why fans don’t want to hear that given the history of failure here, but it makes it no less true.

          • Petey Summers

            Ohhhh, I concur. There are no quick fixes for teams as broken as the Oilers. That is so blatantly obvious to anybody without blinders on. Fans need to fasten their seatbelts as it’s going to be a rocky ride for a few years.

            Doesn’t help when the new G.M. tosses nuggets like this around though … “I’d like to think we’re talking playoffs in ’19-20 when you look at some of the young players on this team.”

          • Your comment history suggests you don’t concur.

            — “If there is one takeaway regarding Holland from this recent draft it’s that he has no sense of urgency regarding the latest Oiler rebuild.”
            — “McD getting totally sick of the losing culture that exists in Edmonton is not out of realm of possibility . . .”
            — “It’s one thing to ask Oil Nation for 3-4 years worth of patience but it’s likely quite another thing to ask McD if he has the patience to wait this thing out while Holland slowly corrects it.”
            — “Tomorrow never seems to arrive in Edmonton …”
            — “Still absolutely nothing as far as player moves yet. The jury is still out on Holland.”

            You want results now. And citing a quote about being hopeful about making the playoffs in 19-20 is a problem? Of course he’d like to think that. If he said “I think playoffs are a year or two away” you’d be citing that as a negative as well. You don’t concur with Holland’s approach, so why say you do?

            Beyond that, why are you rolling your IP address? In 17 comments over the last seven days you come up under eight different numbers.

          • TruthHurts98

            Fans have no choice but to be patient. I’m willing to bet anyone willing that the Oilers miss the playoffs this upcoming season. Holland is taking the 3-4 year rebuild approach and if he does it well the Oilers should be one heck of a team in 4 years. I don’t think fans are going to be that patient. Damn shame that PC, Burger Bob etc allowed the Reinhart and Hall trades along with the Lucic signing. That made Holland’s job nearly an impossible Everest to ascend. It’s still going to be rough this next couple of years with no playoffs. Cap Hell and unmovable players makes the process much slower. I shutter to think what happens if Broberg doesn’t pan out.

          • D83

            I like the broberg pick think the d is gonna be good for years to come. Wingers alot easier to acquire might take a bit of time but not as bad as people think just need consistansy between the pipes hopefully we can find that

          • Petey Summers

            You’re more than welcome to buy into what Holland is selling but that doesn’t mean I will. There isn’t one of my posts that you list there that isn’t full of truth regardless if it rankles you.

            It’s not me wanting results now or later that is of consequence here. It’s all & only about McD & whether he could stomach more of what appears to be a never-ending losing culture. That’s the gamble these Oilers take when drafting a Broberg ahead of a player like Zegras. That’s the point I’m making before you got distracted by what you obviously feel are my alarming intentions. Rolling IP’s is now a time tested way of securing oneself while on the net. It also allows the opportunity to rejoin chat conversations in the face of overzealous moderators.

            What is it with Oil Nation & their non acceptance of different points of view than what is the standard positive post nonsense that we so readily read on here?

          • CMG30

            The Oilers are a ways away from being cup contenders but they’re not that far off being a playoff team. Frankly, they could make it with no other changes except getting a stellar season between the pipes. That’s how they did it last time…

          • mcjesus take the wheel

            They could make the playoffs. There needs to be a few things go very right for it to happen but it’s possible they come in 4th in the Pacific. I’m personally not counting on all the stars to align but it could happen.

          • mikeoes

            Issue is Robin, Oilers were put in a very unique situation when they were gifted McDavid. Answer me these questions:
            1) what are odds Oilers will have another player like McDavid in next 20 or 30 years? 5% ? Is that too high? I think we’re lucky enough to have Gretz and now McD right?
            2) McD is already good enough player (most say best in world) so we don’t need to plan for him to be in his prime at 25-26 before we want to build a contender , would you agree?
            3) Oilers are extremely light on skilled forwards once you get past McD Drai amd nuuge, wound you agree?
            4) odds of Oilers fixing this forward depth in a meaningful way that will actually push us to playoff this offseason is very low based on our cap and fact that FA signings are usually not great deals. (odds are low, I doubt we’ll get another Chiasson this offseason Peter really lucked out with him)
            Agree?
            5) Drafting a forward (Zegras Brody etc..) typically is quicker to get results that impact am NHL team then defense, correct?
            6) we have way more depth currently on D then forward, right?

            Therefore, fans such as myself are upset with Broberg pick NOT because we don’t think he may turn out to be a good pick. We’re upset because McDavid isn’t getting any younger and we are Wasting a generational talent like him if we can’t figure our our forward major issue we saw last few years. And drafting Broberg won’t help that issue until McDavid is 26 or 27. We don’t want to wait that long….neither does McDavid. If we didn’t have McDavid and didnt wast 3 of 4 years already, I’d be totally fine with Broberg pick. McD is the reason this pick was not best choice. Simple as that!!!! *typed on phone excuse any spelling issues please 🙂

          • GK1980

            I don’t care who they draft this year. It won’t matter, even Hughes can’t change this franchise around over night. That’s a fact. This team is a disaster and will take years to recover. Sad reality folks.

        • Beer

          @Petey Sum..
          If I could reply to your last reply. I would point out as a example that after Roy was humiliated buy his coach. He went straight to the TV cameras and told the whole world that he would never play another game for Montreal.

  • connor is god

    great article robin,no one knows what the future holds for these picks but fans need to realize just because previous regimes failed it does not mean the Holland one will.Lets all wait and see what he can do over the next month or two before we hit the panic button.

    • OilerForLife

      Panicking is what Chiarelli did and how did that work out in the end.

      It looks like Holland is talking to teams and wants a fair deal in any trades, because if the Oilers get fleeced nobody will be happy. They will be adding some players soon and they need a goaltender, some forwards, and maybe they move a D man for a forward as well. I’ll worry about how player development works out down the road. Lots of people thought the Benson pick would suck, and take a look at him now.

  • Oilman99

    The Oiler’s draft record in the Keith Gretzky era has been exemplary, I would suggest the doubters should keep quiet until the outcome proves otherwise.

  • TruthHurts98

    The reason I wasn’t stoked on the Broberg pick is simple: The Oilers have nothing for offense outside of the big 3. Worst in the league and that still hasn’t been addressed. Broberg is 3-4 years away from the NHL. Doesn’t mean that he won’t be a fantastic dman, but Oiler fans aren’t patient anymore. The trajectory Holland has the Oilers moving on is playoffs in 2-3 years (maybe) and contending in 3-4 years in best case scenario. No way the fans will be patient enough, the Oilers and Sens right now will probably be fighting for dead last in this upcoming season. Current defense is weak, goaltending is way below average and Connor, Leon and Nuge can’t provide all the goals. Kenny is going to have to pull of pure magic to fit any more decent additions to this cap strapped roster. Moving Lucic will be literally impossible, the Marleau dump confirms that. So can you fans wait 3 years? Maybe 2 years of no playoffs? Realistically they don’t have much hope this season, the other teams in the basement have improved far more so far. Next 2 weeks will define expectations for the next season plus.

    • cityofchampions

      I disagree. We aren’t going to suck that bad with McDavid, Draisaitl and RNH on the team, and a decent (if not overly impressive) defence. We’ll be better than last year, and should at least stay in the chase for a wildcard right to the end, assuming we get league-average goaltending and no long-term injuries to the big 3. If we get good goaltending, fix the pk, get a couple of scorers on the wing (don’t ask me how, just say we get lucky and pull a few rabbits out of the hat) we might even challenge for a home playoff date. I don’t think that will happen, but it’s possible. Most likely we challenge for a wild card right up to the end, and hopefully sneak in.

      • TruthHurts98

        What are you smoking? I predicted the Oilers would finish in the bottom 5-10 last season and got plenty of trashes. Reality is harsh in Oil Country and most fans refuse to come to terms with it. Bottom 5 finish this year UNLESS Holland makes a few very astute moves. We wait.

  • Beer

    Exactly Brownlee. Look at Yak’s, everybody loved him. He was a 1st overall on draft day. Today he can’t even get a job in 31 team NHL. Look at JP, 4th overall on draft day. Minor leaguer today.

  • I like going Broberg-Lavoie. It’s alot easier(not easy but easier) to find high ceiling forwards in the 2nd round then it is to find defensemen. I said that with a new GM we should get used to a different style of drafting and that’s what we got. Broberg is a boom-or-bust but with a patient GM and solid AHL development staff there’s no reason why he shouldn’t boom

    • Heschultzhescores

      Even McDavid is expendable. Has he won anything? Has he been close to winning anything? What I’m seeing lately in the NHL is that teams with the 10 plus million contracts, are not the teams winning the cup. I love McD, but those huge contracts dont allow for a great supporting cast. Ask Toronto. High end talent at mid range prices is the New way IMO. One man teams have never won, nothing has changed.

      • Oilers4477

        Might be one of the dumbest things I’ve read in a while! McDavid is not expendable our problem is and I don’t think it’s as bad now but we haven’t been able to draft well enough to have a constant flow of good young players on cheap contracts coming in to fill out the roster year after year

        • Heschultzhescores

          With McD and Drai’s contracts we will always be in cap difficulties. You dont need superstars to win the cup. Just solid in all positions and a hot goaltender.

    • MrBung

      It shouldnt have had to even get to Holland. How many GMs and coaches has this wreck of a franchise burned through? How many top picks? Is this the worst team in the NHL and pro sports after the last 15 years?

  • madjam

    Instant gratification and a winning team wanted for this year . Not interested in being patient , etc .anymore with some of the elite talent we already have . That’s what new management and coaching should readily supply , not another long drawn out rebuild – which should not be necessary . The fans deserve better than last 12 years .