ONLY 61 MORE TO GO!

Lowetide
November 16 2013 07:33AM

The Oilers lost again last night, to San Jose, in a game that saw the home side play well once the game was no longer in the balance. There are 61 nights just like that one straight ahead, and how the Oilers use them is going to set the stage for the 2014-15 season--which will hopefully be the first playoff season since 2005-06.

WHAT CAN THEY GET OUT OF THE SEASON?

The Oilers (according to MacT) have '8 or 9' pieces to the puzzle already in the fold, and based on his own past the names I'd chose for those 9 are Hall, Nuge, Eberle, Yakupov, Gagner, Perron, Petry, Justin Schultz and Darnell Nurse. You can probably add Oscar Klefbom to that list, but we're getting ahead of ourselves.

AUDITIONS

The Oilers have Ilya Bryzgalov in Oklahoma City, and he'll no doubt get a long look in the NHL when he's ready. Devan Dubnyk is playing a stronger game now, and it's possible the big man will play well enough to earn a contract with the club next season (although it's a long shot).

On defense, Oscar Klefbom was called up yesterday and Taylor Fedun has already made his NHL debut. Brandon Davidson, Martin Marincin and others are waiting in the wings and several of the Barons blue could see playing time during this lost season.

The acquisition of Roman Horak gives the Oilers another 4line option and the former Flame actually has a solid resume. Other players who may be recalled include Linus Omark and Anton Lander (who have already played this season) as well as Tyler Pitlick (who finally made it to the NHL only to be injured).

TRADES

To borrow a phrase from this man, you won't have Ales Hemsky to kick around anymore! The chances of the Oilers signing the Czech winger have been reduced because of the lack of success this season. All free agent veterans are in danger of being traded any time now, and those who do stay are very unlikely to be re-signed. Nick Schultz, Ryan Jones, at this point even Ryan Smyth might be a deadline rental. We're going to see a lot more roster turnover (Edmonton has already employed 33 players and that number is going to climb).

LEARNING CURVE

The GM is going to have to learn to under promise and over deliver, and the coach is going to have to learn about line matching and finding a useful 4th line he's willing to play. In hindsight, a rookie coach was probably not a wise decision for this group, but the club has turned over the position so often there must be great hesitancy to replace him.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

The Oilers will turn north soon or these men are going to end up in the infirmary. In a very real way, tonight's game is important to this 4-15-2 hockey club. Win, and there is something to build on. Lose, and people begin to talk about historically bad hockey teams.

I sincerely believe this team is much better than they've shown, but they have to prove it. Tonight.

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#151 a lg dubl dubl
November 16 2013, 02:24PM
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Ted wrote:

The Oil have many, many problems and I don't think they're much better than what we see here. I also have to admit, I think these high end picks are not going to be top end players. They might be good players but just because you were picked first overall does not mean you're going to be an NHL star. Nail is a bit of a mess. The Nugget seems to be a step slow (but he is still working his way back) and Hall is good but probably isn't going to be a top scoring winger in this league.

Too many similar players in the top 6, not much grit, weak blue line and a mess in net. It's too bad they couldn't pull a trade for Cory Schneider at the draft.

Shneider hasn't been that great for NJ this season so far, as bad as DD has been this year, Oilers D hasn't really helped him either when he has played good.

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#152 Slats
November 16 2013, 02:26PM
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Surely Dubey can stop 12-15 shots tonight!

Yes?

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#153 David S
November 16 2013, 02:28PM
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The Beaker wrote:

And how many people thought Eakins was going to be a "disaster" when they hired him? Im still not convinced he is as bad as the rhetoric that gets spewed lately.

And as for the rest, listen to yourself.

Gagner ... any proof there was a legit offer on the table to do so? No? What this team needs is a 2C. If Gags isnt that guy fine but in the off season you couldnt have said "we'll just plug arcobello there"

Grebs was really 0 risk and isnt really hurting the team.

Downing him for LaBarbera is just silly. LaBarbera was what, plan D for this teams goaltending after the team couldnt get Bishop (not technically MacTs fault) Schnieder and Bernier which as far as i can tell from what info is out werent really "available" to us anyways. After that im sure you can spout a few other possible avanues but have no actual way of knowing if they were possible or not. Labarbera was a reasonable bet.

This buying out Hemsky thing is so alien to me. Sure you could have booted him out of town and gotten nothing but cap space but no one has been able to convince me there was a realistic avenue to use that cap space. They actually did try to spend it but Clarkson decided to play at home and you probably would have tore MacT apart for that too. Who else out there would have legit come here? Pretty sure you cant guarentee anyone. This way we'll at least get something for him and get the cap space next year too.

Didnt know he could force Smyth to retire. Pretty sure that would have had a lot of negative repercussions you would have complained about too.

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Beyond that i see many positives from the pile of crap he was given:

- Perron Trade

- Belov

- Giving Arcobello a shot

- Ference (though not perfect its a net positive in my eyes)

- Sending Nurse back instead of doing the Tambellini thing.

- Gordon

- If Horcoff had to be traded getting Larsen back was legit.

- book is out on Joensuu

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Is it enough? Hell no but if you honestly expected him to wash Tambellinis stink off in one off season you were kidding youself. Am I happy with looking at draft picks already? No, im spitting mad about it. But I dont think we can legitimately lay all the blame on MacTs shoulders not even a year into this job.

Coming back with this hindsight crap after half the moves you complained about most people (probably yourself included) were all pretty pumped about.

(Sorry for wall of text)

^This.

Nice job man.

*Props*

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#154 Zarny
November 16 2013, 02:32PM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

The Oilers were supposed to challenge for a playoff spot this year, or come damn close to it. MacTavish’s words.

Despite what you say about winning the cup, there has to be signs of progression! This is clearly regression….huge difference.

Dubnyk wasn’t even supposed to start this year, MacTavish went Whale hunting again! got burned everywhere he went! In fact MacTavish, offered more for Schneider then NJ but still lost out on him!!

MacTavish knew Dubnyk wasn’t a legit starter from the beginning.

MacTavish Boldly stated that Hemsky & Horcoff were done as Oilers! Since he opened his pie hole and every GM in the NHL new Hemsky was available teams low balled Mac-T to a point that Hemsky became untradeable!

MacTavish had the draft, all summer, and 21 games into the season to find, correct, trade and sign said players, instead he tried it on the cheap and used AHL& KHL players as 3-4th liners & D-men.

Then he signed Gagner to a near impossible to trade contract and gave him a retarded NTC something Tambellini had the brains never to do!

Gave away Smid for a prospect…The same kind of prospect the COULD have drafted this summer for free!!!!! He all but gave Smid away for FREE!

Tambellini was no gem but MacTavish is slowly proving his equal in many respects

I don't necessarily disagree but you can't judge MacT either way 21 games into a season. I'm sure he regrets the bold moves comment. It's not that easy. Especially in the NHL's 29th most popular destination.

Hard to blame him for Van accepting less for Schneider. He had a bromance with Holmgren at the draft. He appears to have fleeced StL for Perron. Ference, Gordon and Belov were good additions. Some hits and misses.

His comments about Horcoff and Hemsky were unnecessary but irrelevant. Teams knew both were available. It doesn't matter whether they find out on TSN or a phone call when Mac asks "hey what do you got for Hemmer?" With the cap dropping Hemsky was always going to be traded at the deadline.

Gagner's contract was a good compromise. $4.8M for 3 years could easily be traded. The NMC doesn't kick in until next year which gives MacT all year to evaluate and/or shop Gagner around and it only lasts 2 years. Tambo would have likely signed him for 7.

The Smid trade was a salary dump. Unfortunate because I like Smid but not a big loss. He wasn't playing well.

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#155 Fresh Mess
November 16 2013, 02:33PM
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DSF wrote:

At this point in the season I doubt Anaheim is too worried about the Oilers being in their division.

Droll. I like how after plunging the knife into the flesh, you give it a little twist for some extra pain. I admire your craftsmanship.

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#156 Woogie63
November 16 2013, 02:38PM
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What is still missing from this list is a TRUE first pairing defenseman for next year.

How do your aquire this type of asset, free trade really not chance for us; draft them... We have our fingers crossed for Nurse, Klefblom, Shultz but they are not next year.

Trade?

By my estimation on five pairing defensemen have been trade in the last few year....

Chara .... Ottawa thought they had enough talent on D and let the big man go.

Campbell .... Chicago signed him to a bad contract and dumped the salary.

Byfuglien ... Chicago had a gap problem and lots of quality on D

Phaneuf .... Calagry though they had enough quality on D

Bouwmeaster.... Calgary signed him to a bad contract and dumped the salary.

Do any of these condition exist now in the NHL? Yes 23% of the NHL meet these requirements.

1) Blue Jackets lots of quality on D 2) Buffalo....salary dump? 3) NYR .... Lots of quality on D 4) Pens... Lots of quality 5) Blues lots of quality 6) Capitals .... Lots of quality 7) Jets... Lots of quality

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#157 zenosparadox
November 16 2013, 02:45PM
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Love the contradictory logic:

MacT sucks: he let everyone know Horc and Hemmer were available.

MacT sucks: he didn't let everyone know Smid was available.

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#158 Fresh Mess
November 16 2013, 02:47PM
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Beans wrote:

Well I must say I am embarrassed to be an Oilers fan. NOT because of the team and where they are in the standings. But I am embarrassed because of the media and a lot of the "fans".

All the bi***in and complaining from all the arm chair GMs, whinning that you're done watching them. And the media stirring up sh*t with he says/ she says.

BOOOING A TEAM OFF THE ICE AFTER 2 GAMES THEY COMPETED IN IS A LACK OF RESPECT FOR THE TEAM. That's freakin disgusting....stay at home and play PS4.

Let players PLAY. Let coaches COACH. Let gms be GMS.

Stop all the stupid NHL 2014 trades and what ifs. It's a sport and every team goes through growing pains no matter what league/ what sport.

Oil fans are starting to sound like the 20 years of Leaf fans, and that's sad.

Let the Trash It truck begin...

Enablers like yourself deserve the product they get year after year. I guess there is an argument that the word fan stems from "fanatic' rather than fancy. Cultists such as yourself provide a compelling case.

Enjoy your Leafs....err, I mean Oilers.

Fools and their money, and all that...

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#159 6 ring circus
November 16 2013, 02:55PM
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Lets do a recap of this dysfunctional organization known as the Oiler's.

2008-2013 Katz takes ownership of the Oilers appoints K Lowe president and the team goes into a free fall missing the playoff's 8 seasons in a row, holds one press conference since taking over the team, threatens the fan base when he wanted tax payer concessions for a new arena with a move to Seattle, once the deal is okay-ed he retreats to his penthouse in Vancouver is never heard from again .

2008-2013 Kevin Lowe after serving as the Gm for 8 seasons get's promoted to President of hockey operations,one Stanley cup final appearance in 2006,Hires Steve Tambellini as his general manager after Vancouver passed him over several times and the Oilers officially start the so called rebuild,under Kevin Lowe's and Tambellinis guidance the Oilers end up with 3 first round draft picks and the team does not finish higher than 26th in the standings,K Lowe holds a press conference were he get's pissed off at reporters and tells them that he knows a thing or two about winning,because he won six Stanley cups as a player,yet his shortcomings as a general manager and president are very apparent, as is his record the team has been a complete failure under his leadership,Katz is known to be close friends with Lowe and cannot do no wrong.

2008-2013 Steve Tambellini AKA Mr Dither's should have never been put into the general managers role, yet he was,was indecisive,he preached that he would ice a competitive team and that the only way this team would win was through the draft,yet under his guidance we drafted players with the same skill set, leaving gaping holes in Goalie and defense,under Dither's he had Mactavish as a coach,Quinn,Renney and Kruger, (assistants Steve Smith and Kelley Buchberger have been here since Quinn and Renney) Tambellini was let go after a big loss to Calgary and was never heard from again.

2013-2014 Craig Mactavish after being let go in 2008,(handing in his resignation) he could not get a job in the NHL as a head coach,he was hired as a analyst on TSN and coached one season in the AHL ,gets hired again as a executive with the Oilers in 2012-2013 replaces Tambellini as general manager, tells Kruger his job is safe at his initial press conference only to fire him a few months later, hiring a rookie Coach who has zero NHL coaching experience says its time that the Oilers become a competitive hockey team,he will make bold moves and that he will not sit still and make decisive decisions not like his predecessor Tambellini.The team gets off to one of it's worst starts in it's NHL history and Mactavish preaches patience to the team and fans and says we are moving in the right direction,with Buffalo's win and Edmonton's loss last night the Oiler's are again in 30th place,one of the team superstars Hall says he is tired of losing and that he does not have the answer to what is the problem with the Oiler's. The problem with the Oiler's starts and end 's with Kevin Lowe and Craig Mactavish, until Katz realizes this ,the loyal and supportive Edmonton fan base can get used to this dysfunctional organization known as the Edmonton Oiler's!!!

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#160 Alsker
November 16 2013, 02:56PM
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Slats wrote:

Surely Dubey can stop 12-15 shots tonight!

Yes?

Oh probably can stop maybe 20 shots but fLamers will get 25 or more. Honestly not sure to cheer for a victory over the city of cows or cheer for Hall to melt down and skew Lowe impaler style with his stick.

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#161 Batfink
November 16 2013, 02:57PM
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Is there a correlation to the general morale of my fellow ON brethren and the lateness of the GDB?

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#162 Batfink
November 16 2013, 03:00PM
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zenosparadox wrote:

Love the contradictory logic:

MacT sucks: he let everyone know Horc and Hemmer were available.

MacT sucks: he didn't let everyone know Smid was available.

Not contradictory. God knows, he wanted to move Horc and Hemmer's contracts. God also only knows what the hell happened with the Smid deal. It's called incompetence.

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#163 Fresh Mess
November 16 2013, 03:05PM
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Batfink wrote:

Is there a correlation to the general morale of my fellow ON brethren and the lateness of the GDB?

I think there is. The bloggers are even growing tired of trying to put a fresh take on this continual bullocks organization....

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#164 Mac962
November 16 2013, 03:05PM
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And tonight - rest assured the Shames will be out to lay a licking on the Oil - The Flames fans will taunt them and the players will be keyed to outwork them which should be fairly easy. If you are not ready to work tonight boys this could be the bottom finally falling out, not that it hasn't already. Like Smid said, it can get worse. Loosen up, just say F--K It and go do what you know you can do. For god's sake you are not this bad. Play run n gun with them, flat out river hockey. They have no chance.

I think..

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#165 Hockey Problems
November 16 2013, 03:15PM
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OilDrop wrote:

Exactly! Edmonton fans feel so entitled it's sickening.

Based on what, exactly ?!?

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#166 Taylor Gang
November 16 2013, 03:15PM
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I got into a heated argument with my father about the future of this organization and what it takes for this team to win. My father said we should wait until this offseason to assess what we have and trade the worst of the kids rather than trade while they have high value and get what we need. Then it dawned on me that that is what MacT is doing, in other words, he is doing exactly what Tambellini did in his tenure as GM. How does he not realize that a team have 4 identical forwards (even Schultz plays like the wonder kids) doesn't work?

I think a kid, ie) Eberle, should be traded for a great third liner and a top 4 defenseman. Then the first rounder, which judging by our stats should have high value, should be traded for more defensive help or a center. Goalies should just wait until the offseason IMO, since there will be a good crop in FA, plus we can give Duby time to get his legs under him. Of course Mactavish doesn't see the gaping holes in our lineup but I've just given up hope in management.

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#167 jake
November 16 2013, 03:18PM
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Well at least we won't see Glencross score another one on us with his knee injury a while ago.

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#168 Jim
November 16 2013, 03:18PM
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It's too bad Oilers can't drop to a lower division ie AHL. It is not fair they have to play NHL teams

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#169 MessyEH!
November 16 2013, 03:29PM
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Zarny wrote:

Except that doesn't make Nashville better. Not right now.

Nsh isn't looking to wait 5-6 years for picks to develop. They have Rinne right now. They have Weber right now.

For Weber NSH would probably start with Hall, Nuge, Petry and a 1st.

You are not going to get one of the best D in the world for players you don't want and draft picks.

I think you over value Webber. What has he won?

I think Gagner, Hemsky and three 1st rounders is an overpayment. Nashville is in serious need of offense. No matter how good their goalie and defense is goals, win games scoring creates excitement not 1 to 0 wins.

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#170 Drowning in Oil
November 16 2013, 03:38PM
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Beans wrote:

Well I must say I am embarrassed to be an Oilers fan. NOT because of the team and where they are in the standings. But I am embarrassed because of the media and a lot of the "fans".

All the bi***in and complaining from all the arm chair GMs, whinning that you're done watching them. And the media stirring up sh*t with he says/ she says.

BOOOING A TEAM OFF THE ICE AFTER 2 GAMES THEY COMPETED IN IS A LACK OF RESPECT FOR THE TEAM. That's freakin disgusting....stay at home and play PS4.

Let players PLAY. Let coaches COACH. Let gms be GMS.

Stop all the stupid NHL 2014 trades and what ifs. It's a sport and every team goes through growing pains no matter what league/ what sport.

Oil fans are starting to sound like the 20 years of Leaf fans, and that's sad.

Let the Trash It truck begin...

This is one of, if not the stupidest post I read on heard, ever!! When people boo and talk bad about the team, it is not out of disrespect, it is out of frustration, anger, and disappointment.

The people that are booing, or the people watching this team play are passionate and want to see a winner on the ice or at least a team willing to try!!

We have all been promised the moon by Mac T, KLowe, and this new coach and all they have given us was a giant bag of crap. It is like someone lit a brown paper bag of crap and placed it on my doorstep. And that someone is this management staff and the brown bag is this team.

DO NOT CONFUSE RESPECT AND A DESIRE TO SEE PROMISES COME TO FRUITION!

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#171 camdog
November 16 2013, 03:55PM
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DSF wrote:

Tyler Seguin and Alex Galchenyuk say hi.

Wouldn't it be something to have both of those kids and Hopkins at C?

Our first overall picks Hall, RNH and Yakopov are not the number one problem. Sure would have liked Galchenyuk but that's a moot point.

The problem is Kevin Lowe always talks about the Detroit model. The Detroit model is based on being able to draft important roster players later in the draft. The Oilers as it stands have not drafted significant roster players later in the draft. Stu Magregor was hired by Kevin Lowe, he's our head scout. It's time to start analyzing Stu Magregor's body of work and comparing it to other successful teams in the league over the same period of time.

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#172 The Beaker
November 16 2013, 03:55PM
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David S wrote:

^This.

Nice job man.

*Props*

Thanks lol... gives me a new perspective about grading my students in class essays. Apparently I couldn't spell or type to save my life during that.

(I actually can spell. I promise.)

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#173 Walter Sobchak
November 16 2013, 03:57PM
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MessyEH! wrote:

I think you over value Webber. What has he won?

I think Gagner, Hemsky and three 1st rounders is an overpayment. Nashville is in serious need of offense. No matter how good their goalie and defense is goals, win games scoring creates excitement not 1 to 0 wins.

Zarny's right, it is going to take a massive overpayment to get Weber.

What that looks like I have no idea? I don't think Hall or RNH but I could see Gagner - Eberle going plus at least two firsts.

At this point the way the organization is working giving up 2015 first might just be giving up the next Crosby.

I would go Gagner – Perron 2014 first and Nurse or Klefbom. I think that’s enough and the money makes sense.

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#174 Cynic
November 16 2013, 04:37PM
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Nashville ponied up $15M signing bonus to Weber last year. He is Team Canada's No. 1 Dman. And in a world where the Norris Trophy was awarded to the best defenceman instead of the top-scoring Dman, he'd have 3 or 4 already. You're not going get him for a couple of second-line leftovers and a D hopeful. It'll take top-flight talent and a big bag of cash.

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#175 DSF
November 16 2013, 04:45PM
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Walter Sobchak wrote:

If you had a choice would you give Paul Fenton or Ron Hextall the GM & POHO postion?

or would you use someone else?

I doubt either one would come to Edmonton.

Hextall is the GM in waiting in Philly and Fenton is pretty much the successor in Nashville.

Katz should have cleaned house and hired Brian Burke.

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#176 Rama Lama
November 16 2013, 04:47PM
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I think as fans we need to take a higher approach or as Kevin Lowe would say, " take a second tier approach"!

Its obvious that when Kevin Lowe/Katz/MacT talk about winning the Stanley Cup some day, what they are referring to is the first, first round draft choice. They don't actually mean winning the cup.......this is our Stanley Cup.

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#177 Serious Gord
November 16 2013, 04:58PM
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DSF wrote:

I doubt either one would come to Edmonton.

Hextall is the GM in waiting in Philly and Fenton is pretty much the successor in Nashville.

Katz should have cleaned house and hired Brian Burke.

No way Katz would hire an independent, bombastic guy like Burke to run the show.

And that is THE problem.

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#178 Taylor Gang
November 16 2013, 05:28PM
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DSF wrote:

I doubt either one would come to Edmonton.

Hextall is the GM in waiting in Philly and Fenton is pretty much the successor in Nashville.

Katz should have cleaned house and hired Brian Burke.

With Lowe in the fold? LOLOLOLOLOLOL WHERES THE BARN

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#179 Spydyr
November 16 2013, 06:00PM
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6 ring circus wrote:

Lets do a recap of this dysfunctional organization known as the Oiler's.

2008-2013 Katz takes ownership of the Oilers appoints K Lowe president and the team goes into a free fall missing the playoff's 8 seasons in a row, holds one press conference since taking over the team, threatens the fan base when he wanted tax payer concessions for a new arena with a move to Seattle, once the deal is okay-ed he retreats to his penthouse in Vancouver is never heard from again .

2008-2013 Kevin Lowe after serving as the Gm for 8 seasons get's promoted to President of hockey operations,one Stanley cup final appearance in 2006,Hires Steve Tambellini as his general manager after Vancouver passed him over several times and the Oilers officially start the so called rebuild,under Kevin Lowe's and Tambellinis guidance the Oilers end up with 3 first round draft picks and the team does not finish higher than 26th in the standings,K Lowe holds a press conference were he get's pissed off at reporters and tells them that he knows a thing or two about winning,because he won six Stanley cups as a player,yet his shortcomings as a general manager and president are very apparent, as is his record the team has been a complete failure under his leadership,Katz is known to be close friends with Lowe and cannot do no wrong.

2008-2013 Steve Tambellini AKA Mr Dither's should have never been put into the general managers role, yet he was,was indecisive,he preached that he would ice a competitive team and that the only way this team would win was through the draft,yet under his guidance we drafted players with the same skill set, leaving gaping holes in Goalie and defense,under Dither's he had Mactavish as a coach,Quinn,Renney and Kruger, (assistants Steve Smith and Kelley Buchberger have been here since Quinn and Renney) Tambellini was let go after a big loss to Calgary and was never heard from again.

2013-2014 Craig Mactavish after being let go in 2008,(handing in his resignation) he could not get a job in the NHL as a head coach,he was hired as a analyst on TSN and coached one season in the AHL ,gets hired again as a executive with the Oilers in 2012-2013 replaces Tambellini as general manager, tells Kruger his job is safe at his initial press conference only to fire him a few months later, hiring a rookie Coach who has zero NHL coaching experience says its time that the Oilers become a competitive hockey team,he will make bold moves and that he will not sit still and make decisive decisions not like his predecessor Tambellini.The team gets off to one of it's worst starts in it's NHL history and Mactavish preaches patience to the team and fans and says we are moving in the right direction,with Buffalo's win and Edmonton's loss last night the Oiler's are again in 30th place,one of the team superstars Hall says he is tired of losing and that he does not have the answer to what is the problem with the Oiler's. The problem with the Oiler's starts and end 's with Kevin Lowe and Craig Mactavish, until Katz realizes this ,the loyal and supportive Edmonton fan base can get used to this dysfunctional organization known as the Edmonton Oiler's!!!

Exactly.....glad someone took the time to type out the truth.

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#180 camdog
November 16 2013, 06:11PM
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@6 ring circus

I'm just glad you spared us the Comrie, Souray, Penner, Burke, Smyth, Heatley, Lombardi, Vanek and Nylander chapters.

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#181 6 ring circus
November 16 2013, 07:17PM
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camdog wrote:

I'm just glad you spared us the Comrie, Souray, Penner, Burke, Smyth, Heatley, Lombardi, Vanek and Nylander chapters.

LOL!!! I will leave that for another day,I had snow to do.

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#182 Sidney frosby
November 16 2013, 11:22PM
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6 ring circus wrote:

LOL!!! I will leave that for another day,I had snow to do.

I wish I had snow to do....how much you get your coke for?

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#183 oilerman53
November 17 2013, 06:01AM
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Its funny how MacT and Six Rings used Tambellini and coaches as a face for the failures of the rebuild years. At this point the dysfunction is way too ingrained in the makup of this team to turn around. MacT and Lowe have created a cesspool here in Edmonton where integrity and pride have no merit anymore.

When MacT got hired his main focus was to lead this team back to the promised land and hired a new coach who is as big a spin doctor as he is. MacT and Lowe basically wiped away thr Tambellini years as wash and made him out to be the reason why the Oilers sucked so bad for four years. A funny thing happened though, he managed to assemble a team with a coach in Krueger who was bringing them back to respectability.MacT and Lowe saw this immediately put it to rest and hired Eakins and packaged him as the saviour.

A fat load of good that did, here we are again in the middle of November sh!t out of a playoff spot. No bold moves just a lot of finger pointing, what bugs and disturbs me is how thr whole organization is fine with all of it. Terrible on ice product and a putrid attitude from the fanbase. Mr Lowe and Mr McTavish if you have any integrity please just admit youre wrong and let someone else have a crack at putting together a competitive hockey team.

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#184 Rdubb
November 17 2013, 07:04AM
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Hopefully the Oilers management will see which players play with HEART the rest of this season and which players decide to "mail it in" and play off of talent alone (which by the way we all know isn't enough to win games in todays NHL anymore, those who play with Heart & passion will always beat those who play with only talent). The upper management (MacT) should also ask his leaders, Ference, Hall & Eberle, which players they feel should stay and which ones should go, either by trade or by not re-signing. Hopefully MacT does the above prior to the deadline or before so that he can trade the "dead weight" and bring in guys from the farm or by trade to finish the season, and than this coming off season, he'll have to decide whom'll stay up from the farm next season and he'll also have to over pay a few free agents to come over, but his best bet for getting skilled, gritty players who play with heart and passion is via trade, & if that means trading a possibly skilled player who does not want to change his style of play or play in the defensive zone all while bitching and complaining about not getting enough time, well, so be it! A good young tender and d-man should be able to be had from the NYR since they'll never trade or not re-sign King Henrick. Plus, Slats still looks out for us a bit and is always a willing partner...

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#185 Cornstink
November 18 2013, 01:37PM
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..."the coach is going to have to learn about line matching and finding a useful 4th line he's willing to play. In hindsight, a rookie coach was probably not a wise decision for this group, but the club has turned over the position so often there must be great hesitancy to replace him."

This is why hiring Eakins was an utter waste of time. There was no reason to change the coach other than to make a PR splash and at this point, I swear that's the primary goal of this organization.

Due to the way the Eakins hire/Krueger fire went down, I am not as upset about the team's performance as I normally would be simply because it's about time this team got what it deserves for how it handles its business...particularly Kevin Lowe as the architect and one constant of this mess.

That said, it would (I don't have the balls to say will) be nice to see the Oilers finally become a playoff team again. Nobody wants to see them squander the talent acquired through the rebuild.

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