GDB 42.0: GOODBYE 2013...

Jason Gregor
December 31 2013 03:16PM

2013 has not been a good year for the Oilers.

They won 32 of 89 games going 32-46-11, and only Florida (71) and Buffalo (74) compiled fewer points than the Oilers' 75. It was not a banner calendar year for the Oilers, and tonight they will try to end a disturbing trend vs. one of the top teams in the western conference.

The Oilers are 1-11-1 against the top-eight teams in the west since October and have been outscored 53-27. They beat Colorado 8-2, but in the other 12 games they've been dominated by combined scores of 51-19.

Opponents    Record         GF-GA            SF-SA
Anaheim:           0-1                2-3              25-34
Chicago:            0-2                5-10            48-63
Colorado:          1-1               10-6             57-74
Los Angeles:    0-1-1            1-4               40-88
Phoenix:             0-2               6-11             63-61
San Jose:          0-1               1-3               31-37
St.Louis:            0-1                0-6              23-33
Vancouver:         0-2               2-10            42-84

The Oilers have given up143 more shots than they've taken during these thirteen games. On average they've been outshot by 11 shots. The Canucks and Kings have thoroughly dominated the Oilers, but the only current playoff team they've outshot is the Coyotes. They have to continue that tonight if they have any hope of beating the Coyotes.

The above stats illustrate just how far the Oilers need to go to become a playoff team. It's a bitter reality pill, but one the organization needs to be aware of. There are no short cuts or easy paths to becoming an elite team in the NHL, and the Oilers need to work on becoming more competitive against the top teams.

It won't happen overnight, because their talent level isn't going to magically increase, but their core players should be inspired to work harder and smarter against the best teams.

LINEUP

Hall-RNH-Perron
Horak-Gagner-Eberle
Smyth-Gordon-Hemsky
Joensuu-Lander-Gazdic

Ference-J.Schultz
N.Schultz-Petry
Belov-Marincin

Bryzgalov

Roman Horak will play his 83rd NHL game tonight and first as an Oiler after coming to Edmonton in the Ladislav Smid trade. Horak has been playing centre in OKC, but he'll play the wing tonight. He hasn't shown enough offence at the AHL level (27-25-52 in 104 games) or in the NHL (5-13-18 in 82 games) to be considered a top-six forward, but Oklahoma head coach Todd Nelson thinks he could be a solid two-way 3rd liner.

Nail Yakupov will watch from the pressbox tonight. Dallas Eakins had this to say about Yakupov after the morning skate, "We're going to get him back in the lineup ASAP. I'm going to do some things differently and so is he. The plan is one game."

Eakins hinted that he will play Yakupov with Gagner and Eberle when he returns and he'll keep him there if Yakupov is more committed away from the puck, especially in the defensive zone. Many feel that the Oilers should automatically give Yakupov significant minutes, and while I agree players need to play in order to improve, Yakupov has to show that he is willing to learn to be committed.

I don't blame Yakupov for not being great defensively. Prior to playing in the NHL he didn't have to worry too much about the defensive side of the game, because he was so dynamic offensively. That changes when players reach the NHL, and it is up to the individual player to adapt.

If Yakupov shows a new dedication and awareness to the defensive side of the game, his offence will improve, but if he struggles learning to play defence, which would be understandable considering he's trying to do it in the toughest league in the world, why wouldn't the Oilers consider a short stint in the American Hockey League?

I've yet to see one legitimate reason why the Oilers couldn't let Yakupov gain confidence and improve his defensive game in the AHL.

Would 10-15 games in the AHL ruin him? I don't think so.

Also, the threat of him bolting to the KHL is a hollow threat. The KHL honours NHL contracts now, and he has one with the Oilers until the spring of 2015. Does anyone honestly believe that if he returned from the AHL a better player, had a strong final 20 games and a good NHL season next year that he would still hold a grudge over a one month stint in the AHL? I sure hope not.

Who cares if his agent Igor Larionov spouts off again? When he and Yakupov went public earlier this year it didn't cause a major disruption. It was talked about for a day and then people forgot about it. I'd like to believe that the Oilers organization has thick enough skin to not let a vocal agent dissuade them from making a move that will benefit the player and their organization long term.

Maybe this one-game benching will grab Yakupov's attention and he'll realize in order to succeed in today's NHL you need to be responsible in both ends of the rink. Time will tell, but if he struggles with his defensive assignments, I would strongly consider a stint in the AHL. I don't consider a stint in the AHL a negative.

Most players need time to develop and the goal of the Oilers and Yakupov should be to improve his overall game, and if a stint in the minors is the best option, then they should take advantage of it.

I understand the situation is different, but when Hall went to the minors he wanted to focus on becoming a better passer. In his first 136 NHL games Hall had 46 assists. In the 79 games since playing in the AHL he has 54 helpers. He used his time in the AHL to improve his passing, and he admitted it was much easier honing that skill in the AHL than it was against the best players in the NHL.

COMPARISONS...

I've noticed many feel that Yakupov hasn't been given the same opportunities as Hall, RNH or Eberle. Of course he hasn't, because every situation is different. Every situation is different, and when Yakupov came here the Oilers already had RNH, Hall and Eberle, something those three didn't have to deal with when they entered the league.

The other main difference is their production. Yakupov had one outstanding month, one good one (January) and he's been consistent in the other five, but not been nearly as effective. That isn't a knock on Yakupov, just the .

Month GP G A PTS
January 7 4 1 5
February 12 2 4 6
March 15 0 4 4
April 14 11 4 15
October 12 1 2 3
November 13 3 3 6
December 14 2 3 5
Totals 87 23 22 45

Yakuopov had an outstanding April, and he produced 1/3 of his career totals in those 14 games. In the other 73 games he has 12 goals and 30 points. He has struggled a bit adapting to the NHL, which is understandable, and by no means would a short stint in the AHL suggest he can't be an effective NHL player.

I believe the benefits from a stint in the AHL would significantly outweigh seeing him play limited minutes in the NHL>

Every player will mature and produce at different rates, so no one should have expected that Yakupov, just because he was a #1 pick, would automatically produce or develop at the same rate as Hall or Nugent-Hopkins.

They had different linemates and they are different players. Hall is more dynamic and Nugent-Hopkins has a much more complete overall game. I think is it unfair to expect them to all produce the same, and it is unrealistic to expect them to be used the same.

The most important thing when it comes to Yakupov is ensuring he develops properly. Much of that is on him, as Struds pointed out in his article, but the Oilers are also responsible for watching how he develops. If he continues to struggle in the NHL, then they must strongly consider sending him to OKC.

TONIGHT....

GAME DAY PREDICTION: At some point they have to beat one of the top teams, don't they? They end 2013 with a 4-3win.

OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: Perron, three goals, is the only Oiler dressed tonight who has scored against the Coyotes this year, (Acton, Jones, Pitlick also scored). He continues to produce against the Dogs picking up a goal and an assist.

NOT-SO-OBVIOUS GAME DAY PREDICTION: Bryzgalov plays his first game with his new mask and plays great stopping 34 of 35 shots. He makes a save with the right side of his mask and after the game credits his son's drawing for that stop.

 

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#51 bulldog12
December 31 2013, 08:42PM
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Instead of continuously ripping on Gagner,watch non factor Hemsky. He accomplishes absolutely nothing. How many points has he got in the last 10 games. Other than the 5 ft high pass to Smyth for an assist. I will take Gagner over him any day. The trade deadline can't come soon enough.

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#52 D-Unit
December 31 2013, 08:59PM
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admiralmark wrote:

Once again another commentary that leaves out the detail that Gagner has been playing as bad or worse then Yak with zero repercussions. he continues to get better linemates, more minutes, PP time you name it. Yet Yak is put down on the 4th line and asked to produce.

Like you said in reference to EBS , Hall, and Nuge that they were given the slack because of the lack of talented players above them. That was then and this is now. But "right now" Gagner is playing like crap. Game in game out horrendous play and yet he gets a flyer and nobody in the MSM is willing to point out the outright favortism this player has been recieving for a very long time. Where's the accountability there? The same thing is now happening with Gagner that has happened with Hemsky. recognize the players with defficiancies in the system and trade them before the other 30 teams know as well or be stuck with them.

#1 Yak isn't being asked to produce on the 4th line, he is being asked not to F___ Up. No one is expecting Yak to get hat tricks on the 4th line.

#2 Gagner definitely needs some time in the press box. But who is supposed to play centre in his place right now? Options are pretty limited at this point. Would you like Yak at 2C? Or do you want an AHL call up?

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#53 Danger Pay
December 31 2013, 09:12PM
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FlamesRule wrote:

Your choice in coffee matches your choice in teams

That's just it... I was comparing the Calgary Flames to McDonald's coffee, you fool

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#54 Lawndemon
December 31 2013, 09:32PM
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This just in - Petry is a terrible hockey player. Poor Bryz...

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#55 Arius Mumin
December 31 2013, 09:43PM
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Bryzgalov is beating Petry in the locker-room at this very moment.

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#56 Oilers4ever
December 31 2013, 09:43PM
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And the edmonton arseholes blow another one. Well done losers.

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#57 bazmagoo
December 31 2013, 09:44PM
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OT goal was Belov's fault, nothing to do with Petry. What was with the hesitation to close Yandle down? Belov is responsible for that one, plain and simple.

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#58 admiralmark
December 31 2013, 09:45PM
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D-Unit wrote:

#1 Yak isn't being asked to produce on the 4th line, he is being asked not to F___ Up. No one is expecting Yak to get hat tricks on the 4th line.

#2 Gagner definitely needs some time in the press box. But who is supposed to play centre in his place right now? Options are pretty limited at this point. Would you like Yak at 2C? Or do you want an AHL call up?

Hmmmm i dont know? I seem to remember this player called Arcobello that up until a week ago(injured) was clearly superior to Gagner in the 2C role. And yet Gagner continued to crap the bed with no repercussions.

When the season has zero chance at playoffs what does it matter? Put Boyd Gordon at 2C for a game or 2? The point is different standards for players sends a poor message. How long do we need Gagner to get the message his poor defensive play doesnt matter because management is gonna coddle him?

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#59 Alsker
December 31 2013, 09:45PM
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Oh well, for the second game in a row the team that played better won the game. Got to feel for Bryz, back to back star worthy performances and his team lets him down. Happy New Year everyone.

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#60 Johnnydapunk
December 31 2013, 09:46PM
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That was a sh*tshow...

I will be shocked if The Bryz sticks with the Oil as the last couple of games he is looking more and more annoyed with being hung out to dry. He looked pretty pissed off...

I feel sorry for him.

I'm off to drink and forget the standings and all this bollocks.

Happy New Year to all whenever it happens to be for you.

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#61 D-Unit
December 31 2013, 09:47PM
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Johnnydapunk wrote:

That was a weirdly big cheer for when the Oil scored! A lot of Oil fans it seems. Snowbirds? Or is Phoenix(Glendale) a popular holiday place? Genuinely curious.

I would say a bit of both. Lots of snowbirds from AB and SK go to the Phoenix area. Plus at Christmastime a lot of their family will go visit them. Also it is reasonably affordable to vacation in the area, and tickets are a fraction of what they would be at Rexall. I have some family that winter in Phoenix and they will get a van service to take them to games, with a group of 8 or 10 people, and get lower bowl tickets for $75 or so a person, including the van service to and from the game. They are about an hour drive from the Jobing.com arena.

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#62 Serious Gord
December 31 2013, 09:50PM
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Couldn't watch the game after the first - but judging by the stats line the oil was lucky to get even the loser point.

That's two in a row.

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#63 Kevin
December 31 2013, 09:51PM
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and Bellov - what a great find Mac T- you and six cups know talent !! Wonder if that was a scouting trip the three blind mice went on to Russia on the fans dime to sign this gem. I note the Smid trade brought in another no pulse Oiler- how do you spell JOKE ???

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#64 Harlie
December 31 2013, 09:52PM
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Wow, I wonder what Brizz yelled at Petry just after the puck went in?

"Why heff to be so bad, Zef?

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#65 Lawndemon
December 31 2013, 09:53PM
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bazmagoo wrote:

OT goal was Belov's fault, nothing to do with Petry. What was with the hesitation to close Yandle down? Belov is responsible for that one, plain and simple.

When you watch the replay you will notice the Petry gong show at the Phoenix blue line... Watch him gain the zone, stumble around a bit, turn his back to the play, kick the puck to Yandle, back check in slow motion.

Sadly, Belov is just as bad... He should go back to Russia and take Petry with him.

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#66 FktheseOilers
December 31 2013, 09:54PM
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LOL, this team man is such a fkin joke. Petry amzazing pass....then Belov half asses to break up the breakaway after your fkin goalie been bailing the team out the entire game. Fk I haven't played in 10 years I bet I could win a fkin puck battle once or twice a game Oilers are lucky to win that in a entire fkin game. 4-3 PP fkin pass fest and no one wants to just grow a fkin set and just go for it. Geez this team sucks.

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#67 D-Unit
December 31 2013, 09:54PM
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admiralmark wrote:

Hmmmm i dont know? I seem to remember this player called Arcobello that up until a week ago(injured) was clearly superior to Gagner in the 2C role. And yet Gagner continued to crap the bed with no repercussions.

When the season has zero chance at playoffs what does it matter? Put Boyd Gordon at 2C for a game or 2? The point is different standards for players sends a poor message. How long do we need Gagner to get the message his poor defensive play doesnt matter because management is gonna coddle him?

I was not meaning to defend Gagners playing, just at this moment no one really to replace him. If Arcobello was healthy, I would have him in 82 games instead if Gagner.

If I had my way, Gagner would be playing for any of the other 29 teams in the league, would have never got a $4.8 deal, and even at league minimum I wouldn't have given him any sort of NTC verbal or actual. I have been thinking Gagner should be traded going on 7 years now. He has never been an answer to who should be a centre for the Edmonton Oilers.

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#68 Stack Pad Save
December 31 2013, 09:55PM
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....the Oilers ....Bryzgalov....Petry....Eakins....Gagner....Belov....Kevin Lowe

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#69 admiralmark
December 31 2013, 10:03PM
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D-Unit wrote:

I was not meaning to defend Gagners playing, just at this moment no one really to replace him. If Arcobello was healthy, I would have him in 82 games instead if Gagner.

If I had my way, Gagner would be playing for any of the other 29 teams in the league, would have never got a $4.8 deal, and even at league minimum I wouldn't have given him any sort of NTC verbal or actual. I have been thinking Gagner should be traded going on 7 years now. He has never been an answer to who should be a centre for the Edmonton Oilers.

Well then you and I are completely on the same page. Happy New Year my fellow suffering Oil fan!

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#70 RexHolez
December 31 2013, 10:07PM
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bulldog12 wrote:

Instead of continuously ripping on Gagner,watch non factor Hemsky. He accomplishes absolutely nothing. How many points has he got in the last 10 games. Other than the 5 ft high pass to Smyth for an assist. I will take Gagner over him any day. The trade deadline can't come soon enough.

How old are you?? Do you remember the '06 playoff run?? Without hemsky getting us past detroit that would of been fictional! Hemmer is the only 1st rnd draft pick from that era that ever worked out. Hemmer is probably the only reason Lowe and MacT still have jobs with this organization!! Hemsky carried this organization for a decade!! He's the reason Horcoff got his contract. Extended smyttys career and took the pressure off hall when he was growing up. I'd like to personally thank Hemsky for wasting his career keeping this franchise afloat! If you have a problem with hemmer you have a problem with me

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#71 ValleyviewSports
December 31 2013, 10:08PM
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Night in night out, Petry scares me more than any other dman. He needs a one way ticket to out of here, quick.

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#72 cubsfan
December 31 2013, 10:09PM
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i debated watching this game but didnt want to ruin the last day of 2013 watching half arse hockey...

watched Chick-fil-a bowl

Johnny Footballs last college game(?)

Texas A&M 52 Duke 48......great game.....way more entertaining than oilers games

if youve never watched NCAA football.....try it.....in many ways more entertaining than NFL......closer to CFL brand/game excitement

good choice by me.....happy new year all

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#73 ValleyviewSports
December 31 2013, 10:10PM
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RexHolez wrote:

How old are you?? Do you remember the '06 playoff run?? Without hemsky getting us past detroit that would of been fictional! Hemmer is the only 1st rnd draft pick from that era that ever worked out. Hemmer is probably the only reason Lowe and MacT still have jobs with this organization!! Hemsky carried this organization for a decade!! He's the reason Horcoff got his contract. Extended smyttys career and took the pressure off hall when he was growing up. I'd like to personally thank Hemsky for wasting his career keeping this franchise afloat! If you have a problem with hemmer you have a problem with me

Preach! Hemmer needs to be here till he retires. He is really our 2nd best player over 200ft. K, maybe 3rd.

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#74 Rod from Viking
December 31 2013, 10:19PM
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How many games would have ended differently if the Oilers had a couple real NHL shut down D-men to put out at the end of the periods and game when you are leading, might as send Grebeskov and Belov back to the KHL asap, Yak would have looked good out there on the 4 on 3, did anyone else notice the Oiler fan behind Eakins in the Yakapov jersey.

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#75 OilDieHard
December 31 2013, 10:21PM
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Oilers4ever wrote:

And the edmonton arseholes blow another one. Well done losers.

really, is this a surprise to anyone?

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#76 OilDieHard
December 31 2013, 10:25PM
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Harlie wrote:

Wow, I wonder what Brizz yelled at Petry just after the puck went in?

"Why heff to be so bad, Zef?

I have seen him yelling at the d-men on more than one occasion....that's fine by me!

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#77 Cynic
December 31 2013, 10:27PM
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@Johnnydapunk

PHoenix was 70F+ and sunny today. It's best not to talk of Edmonton's weather. The only bigger minus is the Oilers' GF/GA differential.

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#78 michael
December 31 2013, 10:28PM
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bazmagoo wrote:

OT goal was Belov's fault, nothing to do with Petry. What was with the hesitation to close Yandle down? Belov is responsible for that one, plain and simple.

Belov is not responsible for that goal. Eakins is responsible for putting out Belov in the last minute of a period. No NHL experience going into the season and Yandle plays him like a fiddle. WTF was Eakins thinking putting him out there. You need experience out on the ice.

I told my wife this was going to happen. You could see how the d was being cycled through and this is what happens when you get a Rookie coach. Not thinking ahead. At all.

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#79 Rod from Viking
December 31 2013, 10:36PM
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@michael

Not that it matters but does Eakins or Smith send out the D pairings.

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#80 Bryzarro World
December 31 2013, 10:38PM
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I am SICK of this garbage!!!

How many FREAKING years do we have to endure this crap!! CONSTANTLY outshot! CONSTANTLY tank at the end! CAN'T hold a lead to save their children's lives!!!

Pathetic!

Flush EVERYONE out already! From that douche 6 rings all the way down to Moss!

This management team can't find talented, useful players. The coach can't get anyone to play for him and the players themselves are embarrassing!!

Belov and Petry are freaking tools and not even useful ones.

Glad it's New Year's Eve, we can drink and forget about this joke for at least one night.

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#81 spliff
December 31 2013, 10:38PM
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Not a big Eakins fan, obviously because we suck, but I can't direct anger at coaches anymore. This team is missing significant pieces, but his has been talked about on this blog so many times its pointless to continue to discuss it.

There is something that bothers me though, why let Souray go for nothing? Piss poor management.

Why let Smid go for next to nothing? Again, piss poor management.

I'm not sure how MacT plans on upgrading his defense? I really can't see this team being able to improve unless at least 5 - 6 major changes take place, but how the hell can we get these pieces?

Also, if MacT thinks Gagner is a good hockey player with character then am I missing something? When MacT says sh*t like that it makes me question his ability, which makes the future of this team very questionable.

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#82 Alsker
December 31 2013, 10:41PM
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Rod from Viking wrote:

How many games would have ended differently if the Oilers had a couple real NHL shut down D-men to put out at the end of the periods and game when you are leading, might as send Grebeskov and Belov back to the KHL asap, Yak would have looked good out there on the 4 on 3, did anyone else notice the Oiler fan behind Eakins in the Yakapov jersey.

I had a quite the chuckle when I saw the same guy, wondered if anyone would mention him. Only saw bits and pieces tonight but Bryz's save off Yandle before they got the equalizer was highlight reel worthy. Same play, anyone see where snowpants was? Behind both Pho. D-men looking for the breakout on an empty net. ~So happy he's here for another 3 years~

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#83 6 ring circus
December 31 2013, 10:43PM
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Let's all forget about it (the Oiler's )for one night!!!

Happy New Years!!! party hard, play safe, don't drink and drive,go and ring in the New Year,see you all next year.

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#84 Alsker
December 31 2013, 10:44PM
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spliff wrote:

Not a big Eakins fan, obviously because we suck, but I can't direct anger at coaches anymore. This team is missing significant pieces, but his has been talked about on this blog so many times its pointless to continue to discuss it.

There is something that bothers me though, why let Souray go for nothing? Piss poor management.

Why let Smid go for next to nothing? Again, piss poor management.

I'm not sure how MacT plans on upgrading his defense? I really can't see this team being able to improve unless at least 5 - 6 major changes take place, but how the hell can we get these pieces?

Also, if MacT thinks Gagner is a good hockey player with character then am I missing something? When MacT says sh*t like that it makes me question his ability, which makes the future of this team very questionable.

Won't argue the Gags part but fLameNation is happily wondering what they get for Smid at the deadline. They know why we traded him......didn't mind the trade, just not the return.

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#85 S cottV
December 31 2013, 10:52PM
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bazmagoo wrote:

OT goal was Belov's fault, nothing to do with Petry. What was with the hesitation to close Yandle down? Belov is responsible for that one, plain and simple.

I agree - Belov should have covered that off much sooner and prevented any kind of breakaway to the net. All he had to do was pull back a bit, once he saw Petry was in danger of losing the puck. Even with the failure to anticipate, Belov should have put in a better effort to shut that down.

I think the Oilers will lose a lot of games like this. The price to be paid for being out of the playoff race. The Coyotes were desperate for 2 points to keep playoff hopes alive, they fought thru adversity and found a way to win.

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#86 Oiler Al
December 31 2013, 10:53PM
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Yes, maybe Yak, needs a game up in the press box... How about sending Eberle up there with him.. #14 was on the ice for three Coyotes goals, along with Petry.

And what the fflux was Eberle , Gagner and Belov doing on the ice on the last minute of the game.

Hair, didn't have the confidence to play Belov all game , only 10 min. of ice,yet puts him on the ice in the last minute.

The first line and Bryz worked their butts off, too bad the other clowns didn't show up.

Speaking of clowns, none bigger than Hemsky, hasn't contributed sheet in the last dozen games. jTired of watching this useless Glider play.

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#87 Serious Gord
January 01 2014, 01:08AM
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RexHolez wrote:

How old are you?? Do you remember the '06 playoff run?? Without hemsky getting us past detroit that would of been fictional! Hemmer is the only 1st rnd draft pick from that era that ever worked out. Hemmer is probably the only reason Lowe and MacT still have jobs with this organization!! Hemsky carried this organization for a decade!! He's the reason Horcoff got his contract. Extended smyttys career and took the pressure off hall when he was growing up. I'd like to personally thank Hemsky for wasting his career keeping this franchise afloat! If you have a problem with hemmer you have a problem with me

Then I have a problem with you.

Hemsky has been a waste of cap space for over two years now.

Lowes deputy signing him to a contract so ridiculous that he is virtually untradable.

He brings nothing to this team that it doesn't already have a surplus of.

Should have been bought out but now is an albatross on a team that has a flock of them.

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#88 Dan
January 01 2014, 01:18AM
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How in the world can Yakupov show defensive commitment when his future linemates, Gags and Ebs, show little commitment to defence after tonight's game? What a joke this Oiler team has become...they are well into being the poster child for bad hockey teams. From top to bottom, the rot is for all to see...lack of player development, scouting, depth, management, coaching...good luck MacT in trying to bring gritty veterans to this losing culture. Won't happen any time soon if at all. They're saying the honeymoon is over for the Jets...I think the Oiler fans are one step closer to turning this back on this team with their wallets until this team shows they are competitive. Happy New Year Oilers, it's the same old, same old with this crew.

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#89 bobbymac
January 01 2014, 03:01AM
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Heres my 3am oilers thoughts on this article.

1. Yak would be better if he had defensive playera around him. He's gifted offensively met him score and let the centre worry about playing back.

2. The plus minus stat is the worst way to judge a player.

3. I love the oilers and yak city.... he's having some troubles but he seems like a dedicated player so lay off him cause he's Russian! !!!!

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#90 RexHolez
January 01 2014, 03:11AM
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Serious Gord wrote:

Then I have a problem with you.

Hemsky has been a waste of cap space for over two years now.

Lowes deputy signing him to a contract so ridiculous that he is virtually untradable.

He brings nothing to this team that it doesn't already have a surplus of.

Should have been bought out but now is an albatross on a team that has a flock of them.

I'm gonna have a field day with this one! where even to begin!? lets run down your list

Waste of cap space?? how so? is dubnyk not making enough for his quality goaltending? is gagner not happy with 3.5... does Eberle want more than 6? who havnt we paid enough cuz hemmers contract is hampering us?

untradeable?? would you rather have him locked up for the next 5 years? he's off the books at the end of the year. if im gearing up for a palyoff run i'm very interested in a ppg player who's contract I don't have to worry about.

brings nothing to this team is your last point... that doesn't even dignify a response

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#91 Fresh Mess
January 01 2014, 05:43AM
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How old are you?? Do you remember the '06 playoff run?? Without hemsky getting us past detroit that would of been fictional! Hemmer is the only 1st rnd draft pick from that era that ever worked out. Hemmer is probably the only reason Lowe and MacT still have jobs with this organization!! Hemsky carried this organization for a decade!! He's the reason Horcoff got his contract. Extended smyttys career and took the pressure off hall when he was growing up. I'd like to personally thank Hemsky for wasting his career keeping this franchise afloat! If you have a problem with hemmer you have a problem with me

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!! Thanks for the New Years comedy. You should have your own HBO special.

I assume you were joking. No one could be that delusional.

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#92 Spydyr
January 01 2014, 07:15AM
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Anyone think that Lowe and Mac-T will man up to their mistake and fire Eakins and bring in a coach that expects accountability like Sutter.

Yeah me either.

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#93 wintoon
January 01 2014, 10:43AM
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Of all the young players on the Oilers Yakupov would appear to have the most potential for mprovement If he achieves his potential, he, Hall and RNH will be the cornerstones of the franchise. Gagner on the other hand has been with the Oilers ffor about 7 years. While neither Yakupov or Gagner have a clue defensively, if I am going to spend time developing one of them, I would choose Yakupov every time. He has tremendous upside. Fothese reasons I have no problem with Eakins working with Yalupov to develop him. What I have a problemwith is MacT's inaction relative to trading Gagner. He is not part of the solution for the Oilers and until the Oilers get a quality 2C they wll not be a contender for the Stanley Cup.

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#94 Harry
January 01 2014, 12:31PM
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Instead of continuously ripping on Gagner,watch non factor Hemsky. He accomplishes absolutely nothing. How many points has he got in the last 10 games. Other than the 5 ft high pass to Smyth for an assist. I will take Gagner over him any day. The trade deadline can't come soon enough.

For the life of me I will never understand the constant love for both Gagner and Hemsky. But especially Hemsky. He is absokutely terrible.

When Tambellini traded Penner to LA I believe he made a huge mistake. It should have been Hemsky leaving EDM not Penner. Seriously how good would a big guy like Penner look in our top 6 now?

Bottom line is Hemsky has to go asap.

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#95 Bryzarro World
January 01 2014, 12:40PM
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@Harry

Hemmer has more heart than Penner any bloody day of the week.

(They both could use more)

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#96 Harry
January 01 2014, 01:13PM
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Bryzarro World wrote:

Hemmer has more heart than Penner any bloody day of the week.

(They both could use more)

Penner has two cup rings is 6'5" and 230lbs not to mention the best plus minus in the entire league.

Hemsky may have heart but thats all he has.

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#97 No Hemmer
January 01 2014, 03:57PM
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I'm gonna have a field day with this one! where even to begin!? lets run down your list

Waste of cap space?? how so? is dubnyk not making enough for his quality goaltending? is gagner not happy with 3.5... does Eberle want more than 6? who havnt we paid enough cuz hemmers contract is hampering us?

untradeable?? would you rather have him locked up for the next 5 years? he's off the books at the end of the year. if im gearing up for a palyoff run i'm very interested in a ppg player who's contract I don't have to worry about.

brings nothing to this team is your last point... that doesn't even dignify a response

Hemmer PPG?? 638 GP & 431 pts. Not even close. I will give him this - the most talented guy in team history to score 20 goals twice .. and I don't mean that as a compliment. For the talent he has, he should be an automatic 30 goals a year, yet he has yet to hit that mark, and he is on the down side of his career. He is on pace for 12 goals and 40 points this season. The return for him in a trade will be lucky if it is a 2nd round pick.

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#98 Walter Sobchak
January 01 2014, 10:09PM
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With the debate about Hemsky & Penner's worth here, I would just like to add this, it was the two jabroni's working in management here that couldn't recognize what Penner actually brings to the table! Debate that! Talk about that!!

who really cares about a pending UFA or another old Oiler who's gone on to have success elsewhere. Care about these clowns continuing to make the same bad decisions about our current players.

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#99 nick
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@bazmagoo

Absolutely Belov's fault. He played that about as bad as a BAD defenceman can. He is brutal and it's back to the KHL for him

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#100 nick
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Won't argue the Gags part but fLameNation is happily wondering what they get for Smid at the deadline. They know why we traded him......didn't mind the trade, just not the return.

The Oilers got nothing in the Smid trade, an undersized centre iceman, where have we heard that before and an ECHL goalie. Smid is an NHL defenceman and the Oilers defence has 2 maybe 3 back there. Not sure how you make a trade that makes your team worse. From everything I have read in Calgary they are very happy to have Smid there. Meanwhile the Oilers send over the boards, Belov, Potter and Larsen all three AHL at best. Just another display of mismanagement by MacT, Lowe and Howsen, the very same guys that ruined this franchise to begin with. When are the fans of Edmonton going to say enough is enough. I have had season tickets since the WHA days and not a chance I am renewing after this year. Have had enough, some other sucker can endure idiots like MacT, Eakins and Lowe

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