Taylor & Tyler: Tambellini should pitch his brains out to Peter Chiarelli

TORONTO - APRIL 13: Edmonton Oilers GM Steve Tambellini awaits the announcement for the first overall pick during the NHL Draft Lottery Drawing at the TSN Studio April 13, 2010 in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. (Photo by Abelimages / Getty Images for NHL)

It’s not often a team with the second overall pick in the NHL Entry Draft has a reasonable chance to win now like the Boston Bruins do, and that’s reason enough why Steve Tambellini should be all over Peter Chiarelli like a bad haircut.

But, thanks to Brian Burke and the Phil Kessel trade, the Bruins are a team that’s already pretty good — 91 points this season, 116 in 2008-09 and 94 in 2007-08 — and a team that holds second pick in Los Angeles, right after the Oilers pick first (and take Tyler Seguin).

Given the make-up of the Bruins, who have a core of players entering or still in the prime of their careers, would Chiarelli be better off hanging on to his selection and taking Taylor Hall, as he has already suggested he might, or is it in his best interests to at least listen when Tambellini takes up residence in his ear?

If the conversation starts with Tambellini offering, say, Ales Hemsky and Gilbert Brule or Dustin Penner for his pick and a Seguin-Hall daily-double, is there reason to keep talking?

If I’m the GM of the Bruins, if I think my team might be a Stanley Cup contender with Hemsky and Penner, and if I’m willing to admit gainful employment is a consideration, the answer is yes.

Why wouldn’t Chiarelli listen?

Here and now

Before you laugh off the possibility of Tambellini swinging a deal to land Seguin and Hall, ask yourself this: will the Bruins be a better team over the next two seasons with Hall in the line-up or with Hemsky and Penner? Yes? No? Not sure? If yes, might the Bruins be good enough before Hall turns 21 to win a Stanley Cup with Hemsky and Penner?

Before you trot out cliches about "mortgaging the future" and the like, remember, that kind of talk takes on a different tone if you’re walking in Chiarelli’s shoes, as opposed to spouting platitudes as a fan or writer.

Talk about the future is fine, but the future can be somewhat more immediate in a city like Beantown that hasn’t sipped champagne from the Stanley Cup since 1972. Dale Tallon damn sure had a hand in building the Chicago Blackhawks, but he wasn’t around to enjoy the parade.

Is it a longshot that Tambellini will be able to convince Chiarelli to part with this pick? Duh. Of course it is. Chiarelli will have a line up of eager suitors trying to separate him from a crack at Hall with attractive offers. Then, there’s the optics of giving up a potential franchise player for a shot to win here and now — with no guarantee it’ll play out that way.

Of course, it’s not nearly as hard a sell if the Bruins win something before Chiarelli starts losing bits and pieces of his roster, as is inevitable under a salary cap, and Hall becomes the stud people project him to be.

From the Oilers end of things, Tambellini won’t get the answers to any of those questions unless he asks. He damn sure better — and it should be Plan A before he settles on trying to squeeze something out of Chiarelli to lay-off Hall if he can’t hit the home run.

What’s to lose?

I’ve already written why I’d offer up Hemsky. I’m not sure he’ll be here after his contract expires in two seasons, despite his candlelight dinner with owner Daryl Katz after the season ended. I’m not convinced Penner will re-sign in Edmonton, either.

So, I start this what-if scenario with them, but feel free to change or add names you think might make a deal possible. If that includes taking a hummer contract back, like that of Michael Ryder — the Bruins already have over $46 million committed to salaries next season, so the cap is a consideration — so be it. Tweak it however you like.

The point is, there shouldn’t be anybody near untouchable on the Oilers roster, not after four straight years out of the playoffs. Tambellini isn’t giving up the chance to win something in the next two or three years by parting with Hemsky, Penner, Brule or whoever.

But, if you add a combination of those names to Marc Savard, Patrice Bergeron, David Krejci, Blake Wheeler, Milan Lucic, Zdeno Chara. Johnny Boychuk and Tuukka Rask, might that put the Bruins over the top?

If I’m Tambellini, I’m asking Chiarelli that question in Los Angeles, and I’m throwing offers at him in an attempt to get Seguin and Hall until the mini-bar is empty and he tells me to get the hell out of his room.

What’s to lose?

Know your audience

There’s some sharp fans out there, but there’s a handful of dullards with slack jaws and walnut-sized brains in the mix who keep things interesting by providing laugh-out-loud material.

Every Sunday, Jim Matheson serves up one of the best reads anywhere with Hockey World in the Journal. Matheson, an Elmer Ferguson Award winner — he’s in the writer’s wing of the Hockey Hall of Fame — got people talking with his latest offering last weekend.

Among other things, Matheson asked if the Oilers might make a pitch for Chicago’s Kris Versteeg with the 31st pick at the Entry Draft, if they might be interested in free agent defenceman John Scott and if San Jose might be interested in Sheldon Souray.

Matheson’s what-ifs and speculation drew this response by somebody calling himself "Asher" over at HF Boards.

"The more I read these Matheson "speculations" the more he comes off sounding like Eklund. I’ve often thought a lot of Eklund rumours are created by him sitting down looking at rosters and saying things like, "Gee, Team A could really use a player like the one Team B has that might be available." And then he goes on to create a rumour. I know Matty was writing for Eklund’s site a while back… maybe he picked up a few of Eklund’s writing habits along the way."

Matty was writing for Eklund a while back? Uh, no. Never has. Never will. That’s the wonderful thing about the interweb. Dolts can write stupid stuff that has no foundation in fact and people will read it because it’s only a mouse click away, alongside legit offerings from journalists, fans and bloggers who aren’t uttering nonsense and lies.

The right stuff

Hall certainly passed his drive-by to Edmonton today with flying colors, saying all the right things.

"I know how crazy this city is for hockey," Hall told reporters at Rexall Place. "I was having lunch at Joey’s and the chef came out and asked me to autograph his apron. People are recognizing me, already. I think it would be pretty cool to play here."

Part of the reason some people are pitching Seguin as a better fit for the Oilers is that he’s a centre, while Hall has played primarily left wing while leading the Windsor Spitfires to two straight Memorial Cups.

"I’d be very comfortable playing centre," Hall said. "In Windsor we had a lot of true centres who were better there than on the wing, so I moved over.

"When we had injuries this year, I moved back, and I played half the year I was at centre. It’s still hockey, it’s about winning battles in the offensive zone."

Seguin will stop in Edmonton for a look-see next week.

Listen to Robin Brownlee Wednesdays and Thursdays from 4 p.m. to 6 p.m. on the Jason Gregor Show on TEAM 1260.

  • Muji 狗

    Knowing our GM, this is how it’s all going to go down:

    Tambellini: With the first overall pick, the Edmonton Oilers are proud to select – from the Windsor Spitfires – Taylor Hall!


    Bettman: …and coming up to the stage to make the second overall pick is Mr. Chiarelli from the Boston Bru.. oh, we have a trade ladies and gentlemen! The Edmonton Oilers have acquired the 2nd overall pick from the Boston Bruins!


    Bettman: The Edmonton Oilers get the 2nd overall pick in exchange for Ales Hemsky, Ladislav Smid, and Taylor Hall.

    *massive confusion*

    Tambellini: My bad. Sorry guys. I felt great up here a few minutes ago as I was selecting Taylor, but when I sat down and really started assessing my pick, I realized I need to make some changes. So, without futher ado, with the second overall pick, the Edmonton Oilers are extremely proud to select – from the Plymouth Whalers – Tyler Seguin!

    *confused cheering*

    Tambellini (as he’s exiting the stage): I feel great with this pick!

    Bettman: Okay!… Wow! Expect the unexpected right? Okay then. Moving onto the 3rd overall selection, please welcome Dave Tallon from the Florid.. wait, another trade has just been passed to me! The 3rd overall pick has been traded to the… Edmonton Oilers?!..

  • Chris.

    Gagner, Smid, Eberle, and both young goalies are confirmed guests at the RX1 Draft party…

    So what happens if one of them is traded? Doesn’t it make sense that at the very least one of the goalies may be delt?

    Could be very awkward.

    • cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan

      klowe and the crew traded smyth the day of the messier retirement ceremony didnt they?

      now that was awkward.

      telling an unproven goalie they cant show up to the draft party because they were just dealt for a (insert bag of pucks comment) wouldnt be so bad

      • Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach

        I think the Oilers planning Mark Messier retirement night on trade deadline day is something that maybe they should’ve realized could backfire.

        • cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan

          oh, i agree 110%. problem is, after the way things shock down, thinking about public perception is probably about step 26 on the 25 step program of making a trade for the oilers

          • Ogden Brother Jr. - Team Strudwick for coach

            I understand the thought of having players there to attract people, but a dunk tank with Lowe inside of it would probably avoid all issues and would attract more people.

          • cableguy - 2nd Tier Fan

            for this June celebration thing at commonwealth, they should have pronger in one tank, and KLowe in another.

            $10 a ball, every penny goes to charity.

            they would raise an absolute ton on money

      • Chris.

        I was thinking more along the lines of how cruel it would be to have one of those young guys, standing on a podium, in front of thousands of fans, watch himself get traded on the Jumbotron…


        You have to think that the Tambellini will be trying to make some moves at the draft… and we all know that one of the young goalies will be traded before the start of the season.

    • Jackie Treehorn

      Maybe we can rule out a couple moves now. Both goalies? One scheduled for just the first hour maybe…lol. Maybe they will fight in the bar to see who stays. Mahaha

  • m3sh

    Without trading future 1st rounders Tambellini should trade any combination of players to get both TnT.

    Landing both would erase the failure of epic proportions the Oilers have become.

    Hopefully Seguin’s maturity rubs off on the “vets” Shelly & Sully…

    (if they’re still here)

  • Tha Legion

    Dont be so sure Hemmer n Penner wouldnt want to resign with the Oil. Come on I thought for sure that the Sedin sisters wouldnt resign with the Casucks and well go figure they did. Jesus we’re so negative here its depressing! Its possible the Oil come out flying this next season the whole attitude of the team takes a 180 degree turn, all of a sudden everyone’s having fun and loving the game. So I give Boston my middle finger and take Taylor Hall.
    Cant Fu%$ing wait for draft day!!

    • I'm a Scientist!

      Easy – Taylor Hall.

      His ego needs him to go first, while Seguin would be perfectly fine going second and would likely just turn that into quiet determination to get better than Hall.

      If you take Hall second, he might cry.

  • Ender

    David Staples wrote:

    1. Penner and Hemsky unlikely to re-sign here in two years, unless for massive bucks, likely over-inflated bucks.

    Agreed. And I don’t want Penner here then anyway, for the reason you quote next.

    David Staples wrote:

    2. Penner will be 30 in first year of deal, at age when physical players tend to start slowing down.

    That, coupled with the fact that I think he’ll never reproduce the year he just had and his value is as high as it’s ever going to be makes me want to put him on the next plane out of town.

    David Staples wrote:

    3. Oiler window to win Stanley Cup is in two or three years, not next two years, the only two years team might well have Hemsky and Penner.

    Now you’re into the debatable. I agree you lose Penner right away as in my mind he’s hemorrhaging value every day he plays. Hemmer, I don’t cast into the wind quite so quickly. Granted, there’s a risk and you may end losing out but there is also a possibility that Hemmer could play for the Stanley Cup Champ Oilers. A small chance, I’ll grant you, but he has value now and potential value still in the future.

    David Staples wrote:

    4. Hemsky and Penner have more value on their value contracts to a Stanley Cup contender to a total rebuild job like Oilers. Best to take advantgage of that?

    Sure. Doesn’t have to be to Boston for Hall/Seguin though. There are 29 teams besides the Oilers and hundreds of attractive players. I can think of a lot of ways to deal a player like Hemsky without rolling the dice on a player who ‘should be’ at least as good. Likewise with Penner, though I’m not quite as picky with him as I believe that time is more a factor in dealing him for value.

    David Staples wrote:

    5. If Oilers are young and talented and Cup contenders, they can overspend on similar UFAs to Hemsky and Penner at that time, as Chicago did with Campbell, Hossa.

    If we have to, sure. Being required to overspend then on one or two guys to push you over the top, however, is no reason to spend nothing for the next 2-3 years though. If you can get reasonable deals on decent players in the interim, you should still take them. I don’t believe that success in 3 years will come from fielding a league-minimum salary comprised of children and the elderly now, even if the Plan is to jettison the elderly and have the kids become superstars by then. Your supporting cast needs to be firmly in place in advance.

    David Staples wrote:

    6. Oilers youth group is strong, but not yet Pittsburgh/Chicago strong. Getting both Seguin and Hall is a move in that direction, a risky one, but not guts nor glory on the Trail of the Stanley Cup.

    It is risky, and you could be the Islanders instead of the ‘Hawks if one of these kids we’re putting so much stock in doesn’t work out. What if they aren’t Daigle-bad but just turn into a normal second-liner? Wouldn’t you rather trade Hemmer for someone you’ve seen in the NHL for a couple years over one you’ve seen only in Junior? Why is it so damn important to get both Hall and Seguin? Wouldn’t one of them and a solid trade for Hemsky elsewhere achieve the same goal with far less risk?

    David Staples wrote:

    7. It is OK to be Ender and it’s OK to be the Dragon, but to be Ender the Dragon is overkill, is it not 😉

    Yeah, it is overkill. When the Nation first came online many moons ago, I was just Ender. Unfortunately, there was another Ender who was writing at Stillnoname.com at the time and also used to post here regularly. In deference to his established identity on the net, I altered my identity subtly to reflect that we weren’t the same person. There were a few reasons behind ‘the Dragon’, but I certainly agree that just plain Ender would have been nicer. At work, I am just plain Ender and I prefer it that way. Here, though, I am who I am now; no changing the past, I’m afraid.

  • Hemmertime

    Interesting article and it would be unreal to get both picks, and I’m all for giving up Penner to get the 2nd, and whatever else it takes.

    On a different note…

    Gregor, my co-worker showed me this link..


    Clap pullups, really. Impressive. I didn’t know who were in that could of shape. My mom has MS, so thanks for riding for such a great cause. Good luck.

    • Jason Gregor

      I’m hoping the ride isn’t that bad. I think my ass is what worries me the most..ha

      Clap pullups while doing KIP pullups are easier than straight dead hangs. Never tried those, but I’m guessing they would be hard.

      • Good on you for the bike ride. I did the Jasper-to-Banff ride about a dozen or so years ago. 3 days. Only hopped in the truck for a ride once (for maybe 10-15 km). It was difficult, yet gratifying. Sore butt & legs for a while. I can’t imagine that trip now. 3 days? Okay, I’ll just bike 10-15 km and ride in the truck the rest of the way, lol.

  • VMR

    Ok if this is turning into a discussion about Matheson then I’ll get on topic. 🙂

    Matheson has long been a great reporter with tons of interesting info from around the league. Even if he’s just giving his take without any insider info his stuff has some thought behind it and knowledge of the players, team needs and managers in the league. I think his insight, while some of it might be a stretch is all possible.

    If you compare him to Eklund you’ll see quite a difference. Eklund is constantly spouting off anything to get hits. He’s always pandering to big audiences that get him hits like made up Leafs rumours, made up Habs rumours, made up Oilers rumours, and of course Flyers rumours. Then just to sensationalize things he’ll put out rumours about big names that would never possibly move like Ovechkin to Nashville after the big save the Predators rallies.

    Matheson deserves respect, Eklund doesnt, end of story.

  • I don’t mind Matheson… sometimes his ideas can be a little out to lunch, but what he has to say is generally a pretty good read.

    As far as the lashing out / caustic stuff, to be honest, I find in a lot of cases the people that are responded to here are more frequently the s— disturbers. People that have genuine good opinions generally disappear in the background. You guys are free to respond to whomever you like and however you like, but for me it just makes the site look like a bit of a playground at times. Don’t feed into the trolls.

    • Jackie Treehorn

      Well said, I’ve been waiting for Brownlee to respond to my #78post that… GET THIS… relates to the article.

      I actually posted it twice just to get his attention before this whole thing blew up.

  • This topic is retarded on some many levels.

    When has this happened before? That a first overall was traded for a second overall.

    This is fcuking stupid, just as stupid as the people beating the dead horse that had no chance at life anyway.

    I repeat, Hemsky and Penner arent going anywhere. Why do you keep planting seeds of doubt in the value of our two best wings with these stupid scenarios and articles is beyond me.

    Robin, if your if was a spliff we’d be all fcuked up.

    Two more weeks of damn arguemtns and comments and then, just like that one masonic rapper says “on to the next one”.

    • No, what’s retarded on so many levels is that you think I’ve written about trading a first pick for a second pick and run your mouth on that basis. I’m talking about trading assets (Penner, Hemsky etc) for the second pick, giving the Oilers No. 1 and No. 2.

      “Beating the dead horse that had no chance at life anyway?” That’s deep. If the horse is dead then, no, it has no chance at life.

      Stupid scenarios? I’m guessing you haven’t spent much time talking to NHL GMs or covering the Entry Draft. Good guess? A lot of unlikely possibilities are discussed, even though it’s rare they come off because a lot of pieces have to fall into place. It does happen, though, like when Burke managed to get both Sedins etc.

      • The “TOPIC” is Taylor or Tyler.

        1st for 2nd trade, never happened. Your Burke example at the bottom is weasel miracle work that happened once. Yes, today your talking assets. The same assets you always talk about, Hemsky and Penner. They are tradeable assets because their contracts expire in two years and they haven’t told you they are going to re-sign here.

        No, I haven’t spent much time talking to NHL GMs. I know you have, props for that. These discussions you speak of are media reports, are they not? Pre and Post coverage? I don’t believe you are actually involved.

        The “DEADHORSE” is the Hemsky and Penner rumours. Poor carcass.

          • What is a literate knob? Does it exist. is it you?

            The topic I was writing about is the one I wrote about. The same one that has been discussed million times over and through since we found out the OIlers were picking first. The deadhouse has been along with it the longest.

          • Now you’re just trying to sound like you live in a trailer park, right?
            I think I’ll call it a day and let OvenChicken8, Jackie and whoever else feels like it slap your teeth down your throat*.

            *Figuratively speaking. Not a threat of actual physical violence or an endorsement of same by Oilersnation, Robin Brownlee, ON owners and sponsors or any entity financially or otherwise affiliated in any way with Oilersnation.

        • No, the topic is Taylor AND Tyler.

          Again, there is no mention by me of a first for second trade. Try to follow along.

          Today I’m talking assets? And yesterday. And whenever I’ve raised the subject before. How else would Tambellini pry the No. 2 pick from Chiarelli? A reacharound?

          The same assets I “always” talk about? Pray tell, what might Tambellini pitch Chiarelli for the No. 2 pick without Hemsky and/or Penner in the conversation?

          What part of what I’ve written are you having so much difficulty understanding?

          Let’s review:

          — I think Tambellini should try to get the No. 2 pick from Chiarelli.

          — If he’s going to get Chiarelli’s attention, he won’t do it by offering spare parts. Enter some combination of Hemsky/Penner/Brule etc.

          — It’s a longshot but worth pursuing.

          So, your issue is . . .?

  • The problem for me if I’m Chiarelli is that I have TO’s pick next year too. So if I hold on to my top 2 pick this draft and next I might get my version of Kane/Toews…have them both start as rookies in 2011 and look to be a hardcore contender the last year of their enrty level year just like the Hawks did this year…basically ice a 7O or so million dollar team for 56 MIL and worry about the cap consequences later. Risky, but it worked this year.

    Even with the whole qualifying offer debacle last summer the hawks would still be in the same position now if Tallon hadn;t made that error.

  • danjo1

    If I am Tambellini, when Chiarelli finally tells me to bugger off and leave me alone I get on the phone to Scott Howson and target that #4 pick. Columbus definitely is in win now mode and it sounds like the pick is in play, and there is a trade history as well.

    If you can get the #4, then you could try to use that to entice Chiarelli to drop down. If Boston is high on one of the defencemen in that next group and we have taken who they want out of Tyler/Taylor then they may be more likely want to deal. Would Riley Nash and a second work?

    If Boston really wants to pick at #2 then we take a defenceman that fits in with our core.

    Any thought Robin on what Columbus would be looking at and if we would have any parts that may fit?

    • OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F

      You are on the right track Jamie!

      For the Oilers to make a trade with Boston for the #2 pick, this is what it will take to get it closer to completion. I would assume the Bruins will be happy to drop back a couple of slots to get a D-man, if the Oilers are to take Hall.

      I would like to see the Oil get both picks too but to offer up Hemsky, Penner and what not is all payroll to the Bruins! Something they cannot take on. Sure, you can offer to take back their crap but does this really make you stronger, by tying up cap space?

      • Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things

        Absolutely, it does. What’s wrong with taking on a short-term cap liability if it stocks up the prospect pool? We’re not in Chicago – we’re not in a situation where we’ve got 3 or 4 world-class superstars who are all looking for raises in the same contract year.

        The Oil have a ton of cap space to play with, and that’s a trade-able commodity just like prospects or roster bodies.

        • I think you are missing my point!

          Why take on “Cap” if it can be avoided! Make a deal sending player, prospects and/or picks to Columbus for the #4 pick, use that pick to tempt Boston on the #2.

          Using Cap Geeks numbers the Oil have $14,248,333. of cap space. Seeing that 3.85 of that will be used up signing Hall or Seguin leaving you $10,398,333. You have 8 forwards, 5 defensemen and 1 goalie under contract!.

          Spend away my friend and see how much you have left!

          I know there is salary to be moved out still but it certainly means there is salary coming back, ie: Souray!

          • Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things

            If you’re talking 1 or 2 roster players packing their bags in exchange for the pick, that could free up up to 8MM/yr, plus potential buy-outs in O’Sullivan and Moreau. Consider the fact that they could have had an entire 3rd line for 5MM/yr at the free agent deadline last summer, and I don’t think the Oil are as strapped as you think they are.

  • JohnQPublic

    I’m in with the Penner or Hemsky trade given that neither would resign. Two years of either one isn’t worth a Hall/Seguin one/two. Not even close.

    If, however, Penner or Hemsky will resign then it’s a much more difficult situation.

    • Hemsky is coming off surgery and missed almost the whole season, I don’t see his value being great at this time. He would get the Oilers more if they traded after another season, also then they would know if he was going to resign.

      Penner just came off his best season and 30 goals, he would get the Oilers the most in a trade. Will Boston want Penner ? Will Columbus want him ?

          • Its debatable of course, but at the very least Hemsky in on the cusp of “elite level” based on his past performance. The good thing about his injury is that he could be expected to be fully recovered and ready to go, which isn’t always the case with shoulder injuries (see: Horcoff, Shawn & Souray, Sheldon).

            Then of course you add in his current contract and Hemsky becomes pretty valuable. Penner and Hemsky are different types of players so you’d expect that a team would prefer one or the other depending on their team needs.

            Lastly, maybe a GM might look at who Hemsky is playing with here in Edmonton and think he’d break out with better linemates. For example, Hemsky as a set up guy for Cammaleri? Can you imagine what sort of damage those two could do? *drool*

          • Jackie Treehorn

            Im more imagining the damage Hemsky and Hall could do…

            and then when the damage they both can do becomes evident Hemsky will feel a desire to be a part of the turaround and signs a 5 or 6 yr extension next summer..


          • Mitch

            No doubt and now I’m reading people actually wanting to offer Hemsky/Gagner and a d-man?

            Holy crap, when will this insanity end?

            I still think if the Oilers give up on Gagner it will be a huge mistake

          • Jackie Treehorn

            I wonder if he would enjoy playing with Taylor Hall or Tyler Seguin? Who would entice him to stay more I mean? I think the Oiler’s should keep Hemsky because he’s homegrown. Penner’s stock is at an all time high, maybe they move him, but he is a big body on a very small team.

            Does the draft pick decision affect Hemsky’s decision immediately?

  • Mitch

    The only player I wouldn’t consider trading is MPS to get the #2. All things considered you must make a offer to blow Bostons socks off. Hemsky, Gagner and a one dman. Any assortment of players will work,just no MPS. It doesn’t hurt to lose a Gagner type player to acquire the #2 because I think your getting a better player back. If you really want the pick go get it.

  • Crash

    Am I the only one who actually noticed or has the feeling that Dubnyk actually showed he is not only more than a capable back up but that he could very soon be a good NHL starter?

    Why does everyone disregard what he did over the last 2 months of last season. He had a slow start at the beginning yes but his finish was magnificent…

    He has all the tools that successful NHL goalies have…size, sound positioning and he has an even keel demeanor, meaning he doesn’t get rattled…he’s calm, cool and collected during the good times and during the bad.

    IMO he will soon be our number one guy and could easily be the back up next year.

    • Ahhhh-hahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

      *koff koff*

      Yes. Yes you are.

      Throw him down to Oklahoma, let him try to knock the lights outta the place and only then, MAYBE, give him another shot.

      Seriously. IMO the only reason the JDD and DD clown show was allowed to run out the season was we were gunning hard for 30th. OK. Mission accomplished on that travesty. Lets get back to NHL caliber goalies in our nets shall we?

  • OB1 Team Yakopov - F.S.T.N.F

    everyone is so impatient. A rebuild takes time and looking at the Kings and Hawks it is more of a 3-5 year process if done properly. In that time the dealing of 1st round picks just isn’t smart. There will be good players in next year’s draft. And with a thin defence Adam Larsson would be a good pick for the Oilers. And given that the Oilers roster is looking worse or about the same as last year the odds are they’ll get a lottery pick again.

    I know everyone’s excited about the prospects that are coming over in Omark, MPS, and Eberle but let’s face it the better thing to do is for the Oilers to bring the young guys to the camp for experience and send them down to the AHL to ease them into pro hockey. It wasn’t that long ago that they screwed the pooch by bringing Cogliano and Gagner up too quickly without allowing them to get stronger and smarter when playing at the pro level with full grown adults. The new prospects should get some time in semi pro hockey. The only exception would be Hall because his style of play and his strength already make him fairly NHL ready, that is if the Oilers draft him. If the Oilers select Seguin I don’t see any harm in him finishing Junior and getting experience in the World Junior Tournament as there are still things he hasn’t experienced as a young player.

    Side note on the backups. Dubnyk should start in the AHL to see if he’s learned anything from his NHL stint and his numbers don’t scream consistency. He looked better as the year finished but he still hasn’t proven he’s ready for an 82 game schedule. Backups aren’t that expensive. The Oilers would be better off shopping for an inexpensive backup for this season. There’s a lot of serviceable ones who aren’t expensive. ie. Biron, Auld, Nittymaki

    • Pajamah

      C’mon Thorny, say “car ramrod”. You forgot to say car ramrod.

      How about we don’t name the lines at all?

      Since the “Legion of Doom”, pretty much every line name has been absolute crap. And that includes “Horpensky”.

  • Crash

    My offer to the Bruins would be Penner, Brule or Cogliano, the 31st pick and the Oil’s 1st rounder in 2011..for the 2nd overall pick that would allow me to take Seguin…otherwise

    If Chiarelli asks instead what it would take to allow him to get his hands on Hall…Tambellini says I’m only interested in a trade that lands me both otherwise forget it…Hall is mine, period.