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The Good and Bad of Summer 2017 (So Far): Pacific Division

This is one part of a four-part, division-by-division series looking at the moves made by each team this offseason and what they still have left to do before the season begins. 

The Coyotes took a major step forward into actually contending, the Ducks navigated nicely through the expansion draft, the Flames continued their search for a legitimate goaltender, the Oilers have half of their star duos signed, the Kings shook up their front office, the Canucks are still trying to make something happen, the Sharks are moving into a new era, and the Golden Knights will play their inaugural season.

***Note: This article is posted across all Nation Network team sites so comments are an open forum.***

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Anaheim Ducks

  • Re-signed Patrick Eaves to a three-year contract with a $3.15 million cap hit.
  • Signed Cam Fowler to a seven-year extension with a $6.5 million cap hit.
  • Signed Ryan Miller to a two-year contract with a $2 million cap hit.
  • Signed Dennis Rasmussen to a one-year, $725k contract.
  • Minor signings: Reto Berra, Steve Olesky, Derek Grant, Michael Liambas, Scott Sabourin.
  • Traded Shea Theodore to the Vegas Golden Knights so they would select Clayton Stoner in the expansion draft.
  • Minor re-signings: Korbinian Holzer, Sam Carrick, Jacob Megna, Kevin Boyle.
  • Bought out Simon Despres’ contract.
  • IN: Ryan Miller, Dennis Rasmussen, Reto Berra, Steve Olesky, Derek Grant, Michael Liambas, Scott Sabourin.
  • OUT: Clayton Stoner, Shea Theodore, Simon Despres, Jonathan Bernier, Nate Thompson, Emerson Etem, Jhonas Enroth, Ryan Garbutt.

The key all year for the Anaheim Ducks heading into the summer was how to navigate the expansion draft. With a wealth of young talent and veterans locked up to no-movement contracts on their roster, it seemed Anaheim would inevitably lose a good player like Josh Manson or Rickard Rakell to Vegas. But they didn’t. The Ducks pulled a deal with George McPhee, sending the Golden Knights prospect Shea Theodore in exchange for also taking the final year of Clayton Stoner’s contract.

Other than that, it was about housekeeping for Anaheim this summer. They got Cam Fowler locked up to a seven-year contract, they re-signed trade deadline acquisition Patrick Eaves to a three-year contract, and brought in Ryan Miller on a cheap two-year deal to fill in Jonathan Bernier’s old backup role. The Fowler deal seems a little bit steep, considering his lack of consistency the past few seasons, but he’s coming off easily the best season of his career. If they weren’t going to give him that kind of money, somebody else would have.

This time last year it seemed impossible that the Ducks would be able to work through this situation unscathed. Their cap situation was a mess and they had multiple good, young players to sign at the same time. Now, the Ducks have their core that reached the Western Conference Final locked up for the foreseeable future.

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Arizona Coyotes

  • Re-signed Jordan Martinook to a two-year contract with a $1.8 million cap hit.
  • Re-signed Tyler Gaudet to a one-year, $650k contract.
  • Re-signed Nick Cousins to a two-year contract with a $1 million cap hit.
  • Signed Adam Clendening to a one-year, $650k contract.
  • Signed Emerson Etem to a one-year, $850k contract.
  • Minor signings: Michael Latta, Zac Rinaldo, Joel Hanley, Andrew Campbell, Mario Kempe.
  • Traded a 2017 first round pick and Anthony DeAngelo to the New York Rangers for Derek Stepan and Antti Raanta.
  • Traded Laurent Dauphin and Connor Murphy to the Chicago Blackhawks for Nicklas Hjalmarsson.
  • Traded Mike Smith to the Calgary Flames for Chad Johnson, Brandon Hickey, and a third round pick.
  • Traded Brenden Warren and a 2018 fifth round pick to the Philadelphia Flyers for Nick Cousins and Merrick Madsen.
  • Lost Teemu Pulkkinen in the expansion draft.
  • IN: Nicklas Hjalmarsson, Derek Stepan, Antti Raanta, Nick Cousins, Brandon Hickey, Merrick Madsen, Adam Clendening, Emerson Etem, Michael Latta, Zac Rinaldo, Joel Hanley, Andrew Campbell, Mario Kempe.
  • OUT: Shane Doan, Mike Smith, Teemu Pulkkinen, Anthony DeAngelo, Connor Murphy, Brenden Warren, Chad Johnson, Josh Jooris, Grayson Downing, Radim Vrbata, Peter Holland, Jarred Tinordi, Jamie McBain, Chris Mueller, Alex Burmistrov.
  • UNSIGNED: Anthony Duclair (RFA), Shane Doan (UFA).

It was a summer of change in Arizona. Andrew Barroway bought out the rest of the IceArizona ownership group and is now sole owner of the team. Dave Tippett, who had coached the team for eight seasons, left the organization. Captain Shane Doan, the franchise leader in virtually every statistical category, seems to be leaving too.

Josh Chayka pulled the trigger on three major trades that completely re-shaped what the team looks like on the ice. He acquired Nik Hjalmarsson from Chicago in a shocking deal that sent Connor Murphy back to the Hawks, he sent a first round pick and a prospect to New York for Derek Stepan and Antti Raanta, and he shipped Mike Smith to Calgary. In one swoop, Chayka acquired a top centre, a possible top goalie, and a veteran, shut down defenceman with Stanley Cup pedigree all while walking away from Shane Doan and Mike Smith, a couple of old franchise mainstays.

There’s no doubt the Coyotes are better now than they were at this time last year. That’s important because this team badly needs to start winning. They have an excellent core of prospects, and now they finally have some veteran talent for them to grow up around. Now, the final key to this New Coyotes ordeal is finding the team a permanent home to play in.

Calgary Flames

  • Re-signed Kris Versteeg to a one-year, $1.75 million contract.
  • Re-signed Michael Stone to a three-year contract with a $3.5 million cap hit.
  • Re-signed Michael Ferland to a two-year contract with a $1.75 million cap hit.
  • Re-signed Curtis Lazar to a two-year contract with a $950k cap hit.
  • Signed Spencer Foo to a two-year entry-level contract.
  • Minor signings: Marek Hrivik, Josh Healey, Luke Gazdic.
  • Minor re-signings: David Rittich, Jon Gillies, Garnet Hathaway.
  • Traded Chad Johnson, Brandon Hickey, and a third round pick to the Arizona Coyotes for Mike Smith.
  • Traded a 2018 first and second round pick and a conditional second round pick to the New York Islanders for Travis Hamonic and a conditional fourth round pick.
  • Traded Keegan Kanzig and a 2016 sixth round pick to the Carolina Hurricanes for Eddie Lack, Ryan Murphy, and a 2019 seventh round pick.
  • Traded Tom McCollum to the Detroit Red Wings for a conditional seventh round pick.
  • Bought out Lance Bouma and Ryan Murphy’s contracts.
  • Lost Deryk Engelland in the expansion draft.
  • IN: Travis Hamonic, Mike Smith, Eddie Lack, Spencer Foo, Marek Hrivik, Josh Healey, Luke Gazdic.
  • OUT: Lance Bouma, Deryk Engelland, Brian Elliott, Chad Johnson, Brandon Hickey, Keegan Kanzig, Tom McCollum, Ryan Murphy, Brandon Bollig.
  • UNSIGNED: Sam Bennett (RFA), Tyler Wotherspoon (RFA), Alex Chiasson (UFA).

The Flames game of goaltender musical chairs continued this summer. The team let Brian Elliott and Chad Johnson go and are replacing them with Mike Smith and Eddie Lack, who were acquired via trade. Since Miikka Kiprusoff retired in 2013, the Flames have gone through Karri Ramo, Reto Berra, Jonas Hiller, Joni Orito, Elliott, and Johnson, but still haven’t found a solution.

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Smith, who turned 35 years old in March, has two years left on his contract. He posted a good-but-not-great .914 save percentage last season with the Coyotes, but it’s hard to really analyze a goalie playing for team that was so terrible. The Flames clearly have a significantly better blueline than the Coyotes do — one that they upgraded big time by trading for Travis Hamonic — but Smith hasn’t been overly successful since the 2011-12 season in which he helped push the team to the Western Conference Final.

The Flames also have some work to do, as Sam Bennett is still without a contract. His entry-level deal is expired, and his career-high is 36 points, so while there’s certainly optimism about his future, he clearly hasn’t done anything to warrant more than a bridge deal at this point.

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Edmonton Oilers

  • Signed Connor McDavid to an eight-year contract extension with a $12.5 million cap hit.
  • Re-signed Zack Kassian to a three-year contract with a $1.95 million cap hit.
  • Re-signed Kris Russell to a four-year contract with a $4 million cap hit.
  • Re-signed Eric Gryba to a two-year contract with a $900k cap hit.
  • Signed Jussi Jokinen to a one-year, $1.1 million contract.
  • Minor signings: Yohann Auvitu, Brad Malone, Ryan Stanton, Ty Rattie, Edward Pasquale, Keegan Lowe, Brian Ferlin, Grayson Downing, Mitch Callahan.
  • Minor re-signings: Dillon Simpson, Joey LaLeggia, Jujhar Khaira, Iiro Pakarainen.
  • Traded Jordan Eberle to the New York Islanders for Ryan Strome.
  • Bought out Benoit Pouliot’s contract.
  • Lost Griffin Reinhart in the expansion draft.
  • IN: Jussi Jokinen, Ryan Strome, Yohann Auvitu, Brad Malone, Ryan Stanton, Ty Rattie, Edward Pasquale, Keegan Lowe, Brian Ferlin, Grayson Downing, Mitch Callahan.
  • OUT: Jordan Eberle, Anton Lander, Benoit Pouliot, Tyler Pitlick, David Desharnais, Jordan Oesterle, Matt Hendricks, Andrew Ference, Jonas Gustavsson.
  • UNSIGNED: Leon Draisaitl (RFA).

The key to this summer for the Oilers was Connor McDavid’s extension. If he went into his third NHL season without a long-term deal, panic would have ensued. But just five days into his extension window, the Oilers got their franchise player locked up to an eight-year extension worth $100 million. The cap hit of $12.5 million is a record for an NHL player. That might seem debilitating for the Oilers moving forward, but you can’t put a price on McDavid’s value to the team. He’s realistically worth more than the 20 per cent of the upper-limit maximum placed on the individual player contracts, and the fact they got him signed for lower than that is incredible.

But there’s still Leon Draisaitl. He just finished his entry-level deal and is coming off of a breakout season in which he finished eighth in league scoring. He wants to get paid. Ideally, you can get both of McDavid and Draisaitl signed long-term for $20 million annually combined, but apparently the latter is looking for upwards to $10 million per season.

Otherwise, it’s been a quiet season in Edmonton. They swapped Jordan Eberle for Ryan Strome, a deal that saves them some cap room and adds some versatility to the roster, but loses them a pretty significant amount of offence. They also got Kris Russell, Eric Gryba, and Zack Kassian locked up, and bought out Benoit Pouliot and replaced him with Jussi Jokinen. The Oilers enjoyed a breakthrough season in 2016-17, the best season the city has seen in over 20 years, but if they’re going to take the next step it’s going to have to come through internal progression.

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Los Angeles Kings

  • Re-signed Tyler Toffoli to a three-year contract with a $4.6 million cap hit.
  • Re-signed Tanner Pearson to a four-year contract with a $3.75 million cap hit.
  • Re-signed Andy Andreoff to a two-year contract with a $675k cap hit.
  • Re-signed Kevin Gravel to a one-year, $650k contract.
  • Signed Mike Cammalleri to a one-year, $1.2 million contract.
  • Signed Darcy Kuemper to a one-year, $650k contract.
  • Minor signings: Cal Petersen, Christian Folin, Stepan Falkovsky.
  • Minor re-signings: Paul LaDue, Kurtis MacDermid, Zach Leslie, Andrew Crescenzi, Justin Auger.
  • Traded Ben Bishop’s UFA rights to the Dallas Stars for a 2017 fourth round pick.
  • Bought out Matt Greene’s contract,
  • Lost Brayden McNabb in the expansion draft.
  • IN: Mike Cammalleri, Darcy Kuemper, Cal Petersen, Christian Folin, Stepan Falkovsky.
  • OUT: Ben Bishop, Matt Greene, Brayden McNabb, Devin Setoguchi, Teddy Purcell, Rob Scuderi, Jarome Iginla, Zach Trotman.

The biggest changes in Los Angeles this summer aren’t noticeable on the roster. The team moved on from general manager Dean Lombardi and head coach Darryl Sutter, the two guys who were behind the franchise’s two Stanley Cup wins. But, after the Kings’ second missed playoff appearance in three years, it was time for a change. Former player Rob Blake has taken over as GM while long-time assistant coach John Stevens will jump in as the head coach.

Blake hasn’t had much of an opportunity to leave an imprint on this team yet. The Kings are in the deepest depths of Salary Cap Hell and it’s going to take some time to grind through it. He did manage to squeeze Tanner Pearson and Tyler Toffoli under the cap with a couple of long-term deals, but the team didn’t make any major upgrades over the offseason.

San Jose Sharks

  • Re-signed Melker Karlsson to a three-year contract with a $2 million cap hit.
  • Re-signed Joonas Donskoi to a two-year contract with a $1.9 million cap hit.
  • Re-signed Joe Thornton to a one-year, $8 million contract.
  • Re-signed Chris Tierney to a one-year, $735k contract.
  • Signed Marc-Edouard Vlasic to an eight-year extension with a $7 million cap hit.
  • Signed Martin Jones to a six-year extension with a $5.75 million cap hit.
  • Minor signings: Antoine Bibeau, Brandon Bollig.
  • Minor re-signings: Marcus Sorensen, Tim Heed, Ryan Carpenter, Joakim Ryan.
  • Traded Mirco Mueller and a 2017 fifth round pick to the New Jersey Devils for a 2017 second round and fourth round pick.
  • Lost David Schlemko in the expansion draft.
  • IN: Brandon Bollig, Antoine Bibeau.
  • OUT: Patrick Marleau, David Schlemko, Michael Haley.
  • UNSIGNED: Barclay Goodrow (RFA).

It’s the end of an era in San Jose. The Sharks got Joe Thornton signed to a one-year deal, but Patrick Marleau left the team to sign with the Maple Leafs in free agency. Marleau had played for the Sharks since 1997-98, spanning 19 of the franchise’s 25 seasons.

They’ve decided Brent Burns, Marc-Edouard Vlasic, and Martin Jones will be the new faces of the franchise moving forward. Burns was given, as we know, an eight-year extension back in November, and the Sharks followed it up this summer by giving Vlasic his own eight-year deal and Jones a six-year contract. Vlasic’s deal, which is worth $7 million annually, is pretty heavy for a shut down defenceman who turned 30 years old in March. But, as I said earlier with Cam Fowler, somebody was likely going to give it to him in free agency, and the Sharks are built to win now with the group.

Vancouver Canucks

  • Re-signed Erik Gudbransson to a one-year, $3.5 million contract.
  • Re-signed Anton Rodin to a one-year, $700k contract.
  • Re-signed Andrey Pedan to a one-year, $750k contract.
  • Signed Alex Burmistrov to a one-year, $900k contract.
  • Signed Anders Nilsson to a two-year contract with a $2.5 million cap hit.
  • Signed Michael Del Zotto to a two-year contract with a $3 million cap hit.
  • Signed Sam Gagner to a three-year contract with a $3.15 million cap hit.
  • Signed Patrick Wiercioch to a one-year, $650k contract.
  • Minor re-signings: Evan McEneny, Joseph Labate, Jayson Megna, Michael Chaput, Reid Boucher.
  • Lost Luca Sbisa in the expansion draft.
  • IN: Alex Burmistrov, Anders Nilsson, Michael Del Zotto, Sam Gagner, Patrick Wiercioch.
  • OUT: Ryan Miller, Alexandre Grenier, Luca Sbisa, Nikita Tryamkin, Drew Shore, Philip Larsen.
  • UNSIGNED: Bo Horvat (RFA), Brendan Gaunce (UFA), Jack Skille (UFA),  Joseph Cramarossa (UFA).

There’s no doubt the Canucks got better this summer. But… why?

They signed Michael Del Zotto to a relatively risk-free two-year deal. In the past three seasons, he’s been up and down, sometimes looking like a top-pairing offensive defenceman, while at other times sitting in the press box. Sam Gagner was given a three-year deal after rejuvenating his career in a special teams role in Columbus. If used properly, Gagner can be a very effective producer. They also gave Andres Nilsson, who was excellent in relief of Robin Lehner last season, a two-year deal to replace Ryan Miller as Jakob Markstrom’s 1B guy.

But, again, why? It’s known the Canucks ownership wants to compete, and while these signings are savvy ones that make the team better, it’s difficult to say it makes them good enough to make the playoffs. The Canucks clearly need a rebuild but seem to have dug themselves further into prolonging that inevitability.

Vegas Golden Knights

  • Expansion draft choices can be viewed here.
  • Re-signed Erik Haula to a three-year contract with a $2.75 million cap hit.
  • Re-signed Deryk Engelland to a one-year, $2 million contract.
  • Re-signed Oscar Lindberg to a two-year contract with a $1.7 million cap hit.
  • Re-signed Teemu Pulkkinen to a one-year, $700k contract.
  • Re-signed Brendan Leipsic to a two-year contract with a $650k cap hit.
  • Re-signed Griffin Reinhart to a two-year contract with a $800k cap hit.
  • Signed Vadim Shipachyov to a three-year contract with a $4.5 million cap hit.
  • Minor signings: Reid Duke, Tomas Hyka, Chris Casto, Brad Hunt, Stefan Matteau, Paul Thompson, T.J. Tynan, Oscar Dansk.
  • Traded Trevor van Riemsdyk and a 2018 seventh round pick to the Carolina Hurricanes for a 2017 second round pick.
  • Traded David Schlemko to the Montreal Canadiens for a 2019 fifth round pick.
  • Traded Marc Methot to the Dallas Stars for Dylan Ferguson and a 2020 second round pick.
  • Traded Alexei Emelin to the Nashville Predators for a 2019 third round pick.
  • Traded Marcus Kruger to the Carolina Hurricanes for a 2018 fifth round pick.
  • UNSIGNED: Nate Schmidt (RFA).

The Golden Knights are going to be a bad team in their inaugural season. But that isn’t necessarily a bad thing.

They left some talent on the table in the expansion draft process in order to acquire draft picks — they had four in the top-60 in 2017 and currently have 10 in the top-60 the next three seasons — to help them build for the future. They’ve already dealt a handful of players for picks, and names like David Perron, James Neal, and Brayden McNabb could fetch them a solid return as rental assets at the trade deadline.

Like I said, they aren’t going to be good, but as we’ve seen from other expansion teams throughout the 1990s, it’s critical for teams to stockpile high draft picks in order to actually build a competitive team with some chemistry down the road.

    • The Sultan

      You’re kidding. The only thing that makes Russell look good is when he falls down on the ice and the puck happens to hit him. 4 years at 4 million? We get Stone, a better defenseman, for cheaper and for a year less. If he was in Edmonton he would be on the top pairing. Smh Oilers fans are the absolute worst. Have fun paying 3 players almost 30 million dollars.

      • McDavid_POTUS_2018

        I enjoy how in one breath you post something like this and then in another you post about how you enjoy “intelligent” conversations about hockey. Michael Stone is not better than Oscar Klefbom and Adam Larsson. Scurry back to the hole where other Flames fans pat you on the back for all your “intelligent” conversations.

      • DerpSolo

        Man, flames look so good they might actually push a playoff series past 4 games. All hail mike smith the saviour apparently, the 35 yr old injury prone goalie

        • McDavid_POTUS_2018

          Yet another intelligent point from The Sultan. Stay classy man. Unless you’re really so worried about the Oilers being successful that you’re hoping someone (who, by all accounts, is a far better person than you seem to be) gets hurt?

          • RoCkFaThEr

            Canuck fan here.. since this is an open Forum I have to ask you MP2018…
            Does every site have a troll bashing your favorite team?
            Over at CA we have three of the Sultans…
            It’s getting quite tiresome.

        • Thunder1

          You are not a fan of hockey if you think that. I detest the Oilers as much as anyone, but watching that kid dangle is something special. Tre’s building a squad to beat ’em, not to hope he gets hurt.

        • Ryan68

          Hoping that the most exciting player in the game, who’s 20 years old, gets hurt? You’re all class. I wish d-bags like you hadn’t have been oxygen deprived at birth. I don’t know what people like you have in your closet. Mommy held you too much, or not enough? Last picked at kick-ball? Sneaky priest? I don’t care what your pathology is, you’re scum.

      • Mr. J

        You have obviously not played the game of hockey lol you don’t just fall down and hope it hits you. It’s an art to be a good shot blocker. Not to mention you need balls of S/#¥L

      • _MonsterPerformer_

        Imagine having having a Top 4 who are all “better” than the Oilers #1 d-man yet they allow 12 more goals over the course of the 2016-17 season.

      • Homer

        Lolol lames fans are really stupid!!! You got swept last year and all you’ve done is add Hamonic who won’t score and Smith who won’t stop goals. I see zero improvement hell you might even miss the playoffs

        • Jumping Jack Flash

          We were holding out for a game breaker like Caligula or Letesku but no luck. We can only hope Smith turns out to be the next Broissoit….dare to dream.

      • flameswin

        I’d rank it: Brodie, Giordano, Hamilton, Klefbom, Hamonic, Stone, …, …, …, …, lol, …., …, …, …, Sekera, Larsson, …, …, …, Russell, …, …, …, whatever garbage makes up the Oilers’ third pairing.

        Kulak is the wildcard.

        • Mr. J

          If I was a flame fan I would also avoid speaking about the forward group. Weak forward group last year and management does nothing to address it. Instead overpays for a d man who scores like 3 times a year and his defensive game looked sketchy at best last year. Hence why no one would over pay for him. If monahan, Gaudreau and big bad Brouwer is all we have to fear then all I can say is bring it on. Should be fun :)Pull out the brooms again flames fans.

          • flameswin

            McDavid, …, Gaudreau, …, Draisaitl, Monahan, Backlund, Tkachuk, Frolik, Bennett, Ferland, Versteeg, Strome, …, …, Lucic, RNH, …, …, Kassian, Letestu (lol), …, whatever garbage makes up the rest of the Oilers’ forward corps.

            Although the Draisaitl, Backlund, and Monahan rankings are still up for debate. Drai looked putrid without McDavid and relied on McDavid to create space for him to score. RNH, Lucic, and co. were all outed as underperformers in the playoffs. Flames suffered from a 1.2% shooting percentage on 5v5 and piss-poor PDO or would’ve likely outscored most Oil forwards even in 4 games. Lazar is a wild-card and doesn’t have a good sample-size, as is Pulju.

        • Parallex

          I’d put Larsson and Sekera ahead of Stone (although if you want to ding Sekera for missing a lot of games to start the season I’d buy that). But otherwise that’s how I see it as well.

          • flameswin

            Sekera, maybe, I like his offensive game but I’m basing his defensive ability on the accounts of others. Larsson, no, his offensive game is really not good and his defensive skills are overrated. I would put Benning ahead of all three though, I forgot about him. He has good defensive play and I don’t mind his lack of offense.

        • Ryan68

          And your best forward couldn’t play on our top line. Our best player is THE best player. You know we swept you last year, right? And not by a little. Outscored 21-11 and you think Hamonic is the solution?

          • Ryan68

            I used to think Leafers were the most delusional fans. But Flamers have now surpassed them. My God, you actually think you have anyone as good as Draisaitl? Let alone McDavid? You think your defensemen are world beaters? If your team is so f#¢&/@g good, why did you get beat so f#¢&/@g bad last year? And if your defensemen are so good, why did you give so much to get another one? You’re best centre would be on Edmonton’s 4th line. You’re New Hope in net is an inconsistent 35 year old. I say this without malice, I think the Flames miss the playoffs this year.

  • Killer Marmot

    Canucks are a lock for the playoffs imo with some great offseason moves and have the best prospect pool in the division now after an awesome draft.

    With Travis Green implimenting a new possession based up tempo system i fully expect this Calder Cup winning coach to guide us deep into the playoffs. Exciting times again for hockey fans in the most beautful city in Canada

  • Killer Marmot

    But, again, why? It’s known the Canucks ownership wants to compete, and while these signings are savvy ones that make the team better, it’s difficult to say it makes them good enough to make the playoffs. The Canucks clearly need a rebuild but seem to have dug themselves further into prolonging that inevitability.

    Why? Because management has an obligation to try to ice a watchable team every single year. The odds are that the Canucks won’t make the playoffs, but they do have a fighting chance. They weren’t far off last season, at least until the team came down the mumps. If they do make the playoffs, they likely won’t make it out of the first round, but it’s still some excitement for the fans.

    My only criticism with management’s moves this summer is that it could block prospects from entering the lineup. I’m hoping that management will not hesitate to put some of the UFA signings on waivers if it becomes clear that guys like Juolevi, Dahlen, or Goldobin are ready for the big leagues.

  • The Sultan

    I go to Flamesnation to discuss hockey with other intelligent, like-minded fans. The second an article gets cross posted the intelligence part goes right out the window. People care more about trolling. But oh well, whatever gets that hit count up.

  • OilCan2

    Yikes; Gazdic in Calgary & Gagner in Vancouver?

    Draisaitl is worth ten million. Pay the (top 10 in scoring) man and go out and buy some chrome polish for Stanley.

  • Puckhead

    Arizona seems to be the wildcard team in the Pacific. They’ve taken a big step forward.

    I’m also curious to see if the Kings play the same style after the coaching change.

    I do not see the Canucks being a bubble team this season. The best thing for that club will be when the Sedin’s finally move on and they can seriously consider a rebuild.

    • McDavid_POTUS_2018

      I believe with the hiring of Luc Robitaille the Kings are going to try to focus way more on goal scoring than their typical brand of reactive, defensive hockey.

    • Killer Marmot

      The Canucks have been rebuilding fairly aggressively for the last three years. Only five players from before that era are still on the roster. The problem is that when manager Benning took over, the prospect pool was almost bare due to years of horrible drafting. Only now do the prospects look truly promising.

      • Bud Poile

        “The Canucks clearly need a rebuild but seem to have dug themselves further into prolonging that inevitability.”
        Cam,there’s only the twins,Edler ,Tanev and Markstrom left.
        With an almost entirely new roster in place for the prospects to work themselves into a job over there’s a competitive succession system now fully implemented.

  • McDavid_POTUS_2018

    Oilers fan here. I’m pretty neutral about the summer moves… in my opinion it will be a “win” if Drai signs at a reasonable rate/term in addition to McDavid signing a maximum term deal at less than the maximum allowable cap hit. Not a fan of the Russell deal (term, cap hit, and the NMC/signing bonuses) but the team seems to love him. I also feel that if Ebs had another down year in 17/18 we would have gotten an even lower return so I am okay with that deal happening this year. I don’t necessarily agree with the notion that Ebs was moved so that Russell could be signed. The Pouliot buyout was okay too, he was really underperforming. Seems the Oil are banking on internal growth but that is a double-edge sword because with growth comes higher contract demands (many contracts are up for renewal in Summer 2018).

    The Hamonic trade this summer sort of felt like the Dougie Hamilton trade all over again. Although while Hamilton would have been a great add for the Oilers, I’m not sure the Oilers necessarily needed what Hamonic would bring to the roster now that Larsson is on board. I’m not sure I agree with the goaltending changes in YYC but Brad Treliving continues to impress me with what seem to be, overall, very shrewd moves. I particularly like that he doesn’t seem to overvalue draft picks (see Hamonic, Hamilton trades). The other thing I will say about the Flames is that I really hope Curtis Lazar can rediscover himself this year, that guy is a class act. Very excited for the Battle of Alberta.

    Other than that, that Chayka fella in Arizona continues to impress me. It’d be exciting to see the Desert Dogs back in the mix.

    I’m afraid the Canucks will continue to circle the drain until, as others have said, they move on from the Sedin era. I also didn’t particularly agree with their last two or three first round draft picks. Seems that as long as Linden/Benning are running the show, it’ll be largely a status quo in Vancouver.

    • Billy Pilgrim

      Agreed on Oilers. The fringe moves are inconsequential. They will go as far as McDavid takes them. If Draisatl wants $10M, then bridge contract is the only way to go.

      On Calgary: why does everyone think Hamonic is so valuable? Last season was a disaster for him. Flames better hope that all the analytics hype from last year is the true story. Hamonic is no Dougie Hamilton, but may not even be a top 4 defenseman if last year is anything to go by.

      On Vancouver: Agreed that the Canucks will not be contenders until the changing of the guard happens. Even high draft picks are lottery tickets. Virtanen was taken too early, but Juolevi and Pettersson will likely prove to be good value (though higher risk for higher reward than some other options on the board). Linden/Benning are probably doing about as good a job as anyone would under the circumstances. The voice of ownership may be looming large in the decision to go with a softer rebuild.

      • FlamesFanOtherCity

        If your only view of a player is one year out of a good career, then perhaps you need to do that with Draisaitl. His rookie year was terrible. You can’t look at it that way though, same for Hamonic. Injury plagued season last year and he struggled. He is a top 4 defender in the NHL, not a fringe top 4. Possibly even a top 2. He’s not going to put up number like a Dougie, but you don’t need 4 offensive D-men on a team.

        The Oilers failed to address their biggest problem; reliance on one goalie for 82 games. Brossoit has not proven he can handle the load of a NHL backup. Traded Eberle for Strome and re-signing Russell.
        A step down. Only positive is removing the distraction of the McDavid contract.

        The Flames did not really address scoring, so they need the top 3 to improve, as well as getting the Bennett line going. Goaltending is better in some measure and about the same in others. The only difference is that Smith is actually a starter and can play 50+ games. Didn’t have that for the last number of years. Defense got about as solid as you can get. Overpaid for a top 4 guy playing on the bottom pair, but whatever.

        • Billy Pilgrim

          Agreed on Draisatl. Don’t pay him for one season. Bridge contract until he proves he’s the real deal. I suspect he is, but the Oilers can’t afford to get it wrong.

          Hamonic had a pretty good rookie season, but since then his possession stats have been consistently in the negative – last year badly so. Granted on a pretty poor team. I don’t think Hamonic is a bad player. But I think he is being overvalued, and a first and two seconds was an overpayment.

    • Killer Marmot

      Those that don’t follow the Canucks closely all say the same thing: the Canucks need to move on from the Sedin era.

      Those that follow the Canucks closely know that this has already happened to a considerable degree. The rebuilding started a few years ago, and is well on its way. This year there will only be four or five players on the roster who are in their thirties. And the Sedins might well be the 2nd or 3rd line this year.

      The problem is that there are few players in their mid to late twenties, that optimum age where they have both youth and experience. It will take a few years before the Canucks do, and until then they won’t likely be contending.

    • Jumping Jack Flash

      People are failing to mention that Arizona has one of he best young players in Clayton Keller. I would not be surprised if he won the Calder this year.

  • Toofun

    With most of Calgary’s moving pieces locked down they should be able to avoid the horrible start they had last year.

    Edmonton has one of the top 2 best players in the world locked up and he’s likely only going to get better.

    I’d love to see the teams 1 and 2 in the division. Time to move over California…

  • Billy Pilgrim

    “There’s no doubt the Canucks got better this summer. But… why?”

    Because competing is important. Because development of players is best served by not pushing to far too fast. Because assets can be traded. Because losing in the hopes of drafting a generational talent is not a strategy. Because rebuilds end badly more often than not.

  • A-Mc

    If Calgary can win some games vs Anaheim, then maybe the Oilers will have a better shot at taking the division. Also, how fantastic will it be when Vegas finishes higher than the Canucks?

  • Nanook

    I don’t see Calgary improving that much. Smith and Elliot are basically a wash. Go look at their stats. Identical save% over their career and Elliot’s numbers are even better. Ill give that to being on a good Blue’s team but its no real upgrade. Hamonic would have been a great addition if it was addressing an area of need. Its adding to an area of strength. Defence was not the problem and adding Hamonic is not going to be a big enough change to make up for the weakness that was not addressed. If you cant put goals in the net, your not going to win, and I fail to see any improvement there. The worste part was Treliving completely mortgaged the future and did not address one single area of need with a bonifide upgrade. I think here in Edmonton we are qualified to talk about it. This is what our GM’s did for 10 years, Failed to address core team weaknesses. I hope they do well, Man id love to see a good old Battle of Alberta playoff series. Its been far to long for that. Time will tell. Either way its going to be a close race within the division. Anahiem is still top dog and deserves to be called that until they get knocked down.

    • Atomic Clown

      I agree with your assessment of “why add to an area of strength rather than an area of weakness”. Two issues: 1) a bonafide top 6 winger was not on the market, wether it be FA or someone unhappy or redundant at their current team, and B) after the fiasco the flames got in net, something needed to be done to address goals against. Smith, IMO, is decent, but not elite, so hopefully with a stronger d core, he doesn’t have to make 40 saves a game. And a passing thought, we needed to get bigger/tougher. Anaheim steamrolled us, and we lost Engelland, so a big physical body was necessary (it’s not like Troy Brouwer is going to play imposingly)

      • Shameless Plugger

        I’d have spent those picks on Duchene if I were Treliving. I still don’t understand why Calgary thought adding another d-man was the piece they needed. Scoring will be a problem for them next year. Once you get past their top line there isn’t much scoring punch left. Mike smith will start strong but fade as the year goes on. Goaltending still a big question mark.

    • Könniek

      Calgary had a huge problem with their #4 defenceman, with no one being close to decent all year. Wideman, Engelland and later Stone were ever able to contribute or drive play. Hamonic is still a big upgrade. Id argue this plagued the team more so than a tom line winger. Everything else is even from last year (with even shakier goaltending).

    • flameswin

      That’s because our D wasn’t a position of strength, moron. Our bottom pairing was made up of rotating AHLers and we had to hide Kulak in the minor away from Vegas so that didn’t help either. Or top 4 had incredible CF% relatives while our bottom pairing D were a dumpster fire. I think that’ll be what sinks the Oil this year.

  • Könniek

    Arizona gives me that “Team that does really good but is not actually good because the are riding an unsustainable PDO but lets give their coach a Jack Adams award because never say die” feel this year

    • LAKID

      Calgary gives me that “Team that does not look good and is not actually good because they are bad” How about let’s see how long Treliving lasts before Burke is the GM.

          • Puckhead

            All teams have their ifs: Can Talbot stay healthy; can Talbot replicate last season’s success; will Drai sign; can Drai have success away from MickyD; are your top 4 D good enough; will you ever get over your Man Crush?….and I haven’t even touched the tip of the iceberg regarding the Oil

        • DerpSolo

          They are a lot of “ifs” for every hockey team. Flames have just as many ifs as the Oilers. Will smith be an impact, will he stay healthy? Can harmonic stay healthy? Can johnny hogwash and Sean Monahan recover from last seasons poor showing? Will Hamilton regress, or take a step forward? Will the flames win even one playoff game next year? All teams have problems, even the pens, only idiots think their team is perfect

  • Thunder1

    Edm, Ana, Cal (playoffs) SJ, LA, PHX, VA, VG in that order. Van then buggers up yet another lotterypick in 2018 and continues to wander aimlessly in the desert.

  • Alberta Ice

    Ducks vs Oilers vs Flames will be the run for the Pacific Division. Gibson vs Talbot vs Smith. All goalies look solid. Ryan Miller added to the Ducks gives them a big edge in goalie depth. But, hey, maybe Tyler Parsons of the Flames will be the reincarnation of Matt Murray’s rookie year and Spencer Foo be like the Oiler’s Drake Caggiula addition from the college ranks? Glad to see the Oilers looking solid for the upcoming year. Only one big signing to go.

  • TKB2677

    My comments on the offseason for the Pacific:
    Ducks: Didn’t do anything. They didn’t lose anyone from their defense in expansion which I think is a crime. The defense is young, good but I am not sure if it will get much better but its still really good.Their goaltending is good, provided Gibson stays healthy. Their forwards are the same but the main guys are still primarily the same guys who are now a year older. Getzlaf, Perry, Kesler being the heads of the snake. Kesler will miss a bunch of time due to a hip injury. They didn’t get worse but they didn’t get better.

    Sharks in my opinion got worse. They kept Thornton. He’s old, already lost a step. Probably will lose another coming off tearing a couple of ligaments in his knee. Pavelski while still good, is another year old, same goes for Couture. They lost almost 30 goals in Marleau. Though he is old, he is still good. They didn’t bring in anyone to replace Marleau. Plus a few other vets are older. Their defense while good, is again another year older. Can Burns put another 70+ pt season? Maybe but I have my doubts.

    Kings got worse. They got worse because they didn’t move out any big money, aging, declining, overpaid vets – Gaborik & Brown being the main too. I see Kopitar bouncing back a bit but he turns 30. Carter had a great year with 32 goals but he will be 33 this year. They struggled to score goals, have struggled to score goals for years. They are slow. They rely heavily on Quick, that won’t change. Their big UFA signing was a soon to be 36 yr old Cammellari. They are by far worse.

    Coyotes were one of the worst teams in the league. I guess they are better. The added Stephan who’s a decent center but probably overpaid by 1 mill and good luck in going against all the big boys of the West. They added Hjlarmarsson. Their goaltending is up in the air.

    Vegas: Expansion team. I thought they let way too many teams off the hook and could have been better instead settling for mediocre picks and prospects.

    Vancouver: They need to rebuild. Some of the signings are odd to me. But they won’t be good.

    Oilers: I didn’t expect them to do much. Their best players are still soooo young and not even close to being as good as they will be yet. Plus with McDavid and Leon needing to be signed, you can’t bring in a lot of UFA signings. The Eberle trade, I am OK with. His contract needed to go to free up money. Keeping him would have been a mistake because his value would have went down in a year because in a year, they would have to shed ALL of his salary and take nothing back. So that means picks. They got a usable, cheaper player in Strome. People go on and on about Eberle in a “Down year” and needing to replace his potential offense. I disagree. They need to replace his last season offense. That is 20 goals, 51 pts. Sorry, at 6 mill, that is WAY too much money for a 51 pt player. I don’t care what he scored years ago, I care about NOW. Strome can easily replace the majority of Eberle’s 20 goals. Then you add in Jokinen and combined they will out score Eberle and they will do it for 3.6 mill, not 6 mill AND bring more versatility to the line up. On defense. I expected them to sign Russell, I can handle the dollars, I don’t like the term. I didn’t expect them to go big game hunting. Larsson and Klefbom will only get better as they are just entering their prime years now. Benning and Nurse will only get better. I think the Oilers are at least just as good and potentially slightly better with internal growth.

    Flames. I don’t know what to think. They needed better goaltending but I don’t know if a 35 yr old Smith is much better. He CAN be better than Elliot when he is on but he’s also 35 yrs old and can suck too. Elliot was really good for them at times last year. So I don’t know if they are better. Maybe psychologically, they are better in goal. On defense, they are better but they already had a good defense. So I didn’t think upgrading the defense was a big time need. At forward, they didn’t get any better. I don’t see a ton of young guys who will get a ton better. Tkachuk I guess but he looks like a 20 goal, second line player. Bennett who knows. Monahan has been pretty consistent at 27-30 goals, 60 pts. So that appears to be what he is. Gaudreau had a down year supposedly at 61 pts but realistically I doubt he puts up more than 10 more pts. He’s the Flamers Eberle when Eberle was good. A mid 60’s to low 70’s player. Backlund had a hell of a year with 53 pts. I don’t see him going much past that as those are typical second line center numbers which is probably what he is. So I thought the Flamers needed to add some scoring, they added a defensive dman. Are they better? Sure I guess in some areas but they need some significant growth that I don’t know is there.

    • flameswin

      You actually think Eberle = Gaudreau? Even for an Oilers fan, that’s just delusional. Eberle never had the vision, skill, or dynamism that Gaudreau has. Gaudreau actually performs in the playoffs too, unlike Eberle who just can’t up his game. This year, the Flames just had a ~1.2% shooting percentage on 5v5 in the playoffs and atrocious PDO which explains Gaudreau’s lack of points. Backlund is in his prime ATM and probably could easily put up more than 53 points next year. Tkachuk is also likely to exceed his point total from last year as he’s working heavily on his skating this off-season. You understate Monahan’s defensive ability and Backlund’s as well. Defense was the Flames biggest weakness, I think that’s obvious to any committed Flames fan, and we solved it this year. Adding a first-line RW would be the last missing piece but I don’t personally feel it’s necessary given the chemistry our 1st and “2nd” (really our 1B) lines have.

      That being said, I don’t see how you think the Oilers are any better than last year. Eberle is still a good player and you traded him away for a 3rd line winger? Internal growth is certainly possible but with a lot of your team having career years, a step back overall is almost a certainty with your roster. I’m actually more concerned with the Oilers’ goaltending as Smith has one of the best high danger save percentages in the league and Rittich & Gillies are both NHL-quality backups at this point. Meanwhile, you guys will have to rely on Talbot heavily as Brossoit has yet to prove much and has has been playing far too little these past few years. Also, on the contrary to your points, book it that I’m saying right here that Nurse and Benning both takes steps back, maybe not on the point sheet thanks to Sekera’s injury, but in their quality they’ll regress.

      • OriginalPouzar

        Its tough to take any post seriously when it states that two goalies, with a combined 2 games of NHL experience are NHL-caliber back-ups and Brossoit is unproven even though he played 8 NHL games last year with a save percentage close to .930.

        Nope, I wouldn’t say LB is proven but he’s more proven than either of the Flame prospect goalies.

        • flameswin

          I never said either of our rookie goalies are proven but they are definitely NHL-calibre. Obviously, I’m not saying they’re NHL-calibre because of their experience but because I’ve actually watched them in both the AHL and NHL and their games are definitely good enough for the big leagues. This is the most year goalies of their calibre make the NHL, although in my opinion either could’ve easily been our back-up last year too.

          LB is definitely not proven either but a 0.930 save percentage in 8 games is meaningless. With a small sample size, you need to rely on the eye-test and LB definitely does not pass that just yet. His rebound control is atrocious at times and plays too scrambly due to being out of position. If you had two possible backups like this, I’d like your chances better but as of now, nahhh.

          • flameswin

            We were easily better than the Oilers last year and are even better this year while the Oil seemingly got worse. You guys were lucky to play us at our weakest points and I doubt you’ll get that chance again next year. You have what? 4 good players? Good luck winning a cup with that disastrous squad.

          • Where's the Lamb Sauce

            Flames were easily better than the Oilers last year? The Oilers beat the Flames 4/4 times last year. The Flames only made the playoffs thanks to a 10 game winning streak where the Oilers were consistent all year. The Oilers made the second round of the playoffs, which should have been the third round if the refs were using their eyes to review any of the plays. The Flames however were swept in the first round by the team the Oilers took to 7 games. I am really wondering what you mean by the Flames were easily better than the Oilers last year…

          • flameswin

            Oil only played the Flames at their worst and the one time we were playing to half of our potential we barely lost in the shootout. Calgary outplayed Anaheim in 3/4 games but shot at 1.2% 5v5 while Anaheim dominated the Oilers every game and beat up on your stars (+Sekera lol) with no retribution. McDavid, Talbot, & Draisaitl were the only reasons you even went past round 1 plus an incredibly lucky Letestu.

            Maroon, RNH, Lucic, Larsson, Klefbom, Kassian, Russell, and the rest of that garbage roster got outed as the losers they are. Putrid corsi and Leon will ride that high PDO all the way to the bank this summer. Dark times ahead for Edmonton.

          • Where's the Lamb Sauce

            You can’t actually be serious. Saying we played you at your lowest points in the season is ridiculous. A win is a win and if the Flames were really so good they wouldn’t have had any low points at all during the season. I would take McDavid and Draisaitl over Jenny Flyers and Monahan any day

          • flameswin

            Adjusting to a new coach, a drastically different system than we’ve ever played in the last decade, new goalies that didn’t run video to learn our D’s tendencies, and on and on explain our early season struggles and don’t point to a bad team. Anaheim has had a top team in the league for a long time now and they’ve been a very streaky team. That being said, aside from the early season, we only had one streak of poor play and that was when we played the Oil. We also only had 3 NHL-quality D the time it went to shootout (it was before we had Stone) but after we acquired Stone, we were easily a top team in the league while the Oil floundered greatly after acquiring the might Desharnais. Come the first game of the season, the Oil will get wrecked on the ice, book it right here.

            I’d also take McDavid over anyone on either team anyday but I’d easily choose the Flames over the Oil. Your list of quality players ends at 4 while the Flames have Hamilton, Brodie, Gaudreau, Monahan, Giordano, Stone, Hamonic, Bennett (40 points in an adjusted rookie season and was one of our best playoff contributors), Backlund, Frolik, TKACHUKKK (how’s Davidson??), Versteeg, Foo (coaching staff considers him NHL-calibre already but we can take him out for now), Kulak (you’ll see next year) and Ferland.

            Most of your roster underperformed in the playoffs and even in the regular season but you can’t even blame it on PDO and a 1.2% shooting percentage like the Flames can. Can’t wait for Draisaitl to cash in on his 109%+ PDO this summer hahaha.

          • Billy Pilgrim

            Flames and Oilers are both good young teams. Trolling each other doesn’t change that. Neither team is perfect, and both have question marks. Both teams will need internal improvement from their younger players to make the next step. But in the final analysis I would give the edge to the Oilers because of McDavid. While the Flames have more depth (particularly on D), they don’t have anything comparable to McDavid. For what it’s worth, I’m a fan of neither team so don’t care much about who wins the trolling competition here.

  • blark

    re: LAK, what I don’t understand is this whole theme of teams signing former players to player personnel positions. I have absolutely no idea what level of training Rob Blake has in terms of being a GM, but my experience with the Oilers having former players in their major roles has soured me to the idea. KLowe, MacT, even Linden in Van, look at where they have directed the teams they were in charge of. I guess Steve Yzerman is an anomaly, and maybe Shannahan as well. Aside from them, off the top of my head I can’t think of any others. Thoughts?

    • LAKID

      Shannahan has surrounded himself with good hockey people. Kings look to be on the down trend but will finish ahead of Calgary.Yzerman seems to be in a good tax market where he can negotiate value contracts. The Oilers finally have a good management staff. Vancouver management should be re visited. Burke will be GM by Christmas in calgary.

  • Oilfan69

    My cousin’s daughter is currently in a bit of a battle of a scholarship contest and could use some extra votes to win a $1000 hockey school scholarship. It is very easy and only takes a moment to vote ( no signup required)

    All that is required is going to https://hockeyclan.com/the-keys-to-success/ and clicking on the blue “like” button right above the essay. I was actually impressed by the essay and it makes a good read.

    Any help that you can give would be appreciated as she is in a fairly tight competition with an american boy 🙂

  • Jobu

    Whoever wrote this shared article must have known that this chat would have blown up into a bitter battle of Alberta. The childishness on both sides of the fence puts a smile on my face. Can’t wait for this rivalry to hit the playoffs! You just know its going to happen

    • Nanook

      It is too bad some people are not capable of constructive banter back and forth. Some comments are uncalled for. Insults just because someone does not agree is just childish no matter what team you support. I love it there is great discussion to be had about the 2 teams, and we are finally both relevant in the discussion of the western division. Its been far too many years and I look forward to some great battles ahead.

  • madjam

    Missing in all this is internal growth on projected team now , and coming up thru system onto team . I give Edmonton a big top rating , followed by Arizona and then maybe Vancouver . Rest of Pacific division seems meek in that regard/comparison . Chia was alluding to the Oilers internal development being strong this ear on club and system .

  • Walker

    Once again, I’m disappointed by the level of analysis offered here on the “Nation” level when it comes to the Canucks — which is really no better than an expert on TSN giving a ten second summary.

    It’s pretty clear what the Canucks have done, they acquired replacement level players to take the stress off their talent pool (and also, potentially, provide tradeable assets down the road). What was the alternative? Expose rookies to a losing environment and tank?

    The thing is, tanking doesn’t work anymore. Finishing last in the NHL only guarantees that you’ll be picking fourth. Of the last two drafts, five of the six top three picks went to teams that finished higher in the standings than the bottom three. The lottery is just that now. So what’s the point of tanking?

    I think the new drafting system is going to back fire and eventually be replaced but it’s what we’ve got for now. Tanking as a strategy just doesn’t work (unless you’re keen on picking fourth over and over again).

  • Florescent Oil Orange

    We need a 3 2nd team. 8 divisions 4 teams each 1st round 1st and second team in each division. Canadian west division edmonton calgary Vancouver and Winnipeg. Let the rivalries heat up.

    Home and home against every team not in your divison 28×2 56 games 26 games vrs 3 teams in division 8 each 24 games. 80 game schedule

  • madjam

    Flames need their regressive players from last year to turn the corner . Underachievers such as Brodie , Brouwer , Bennett , Hamonic and even Giordano had off years . Only Hamilton got better , as expected . Flames defence a tad overrated .That is a tall order to expect to fill adequately . Oilers on other hand , dumped their two major regression players in Eberle and Pouliot , but added two others in Jokinen and Strome , maybe hoping they could turn things around with Oilers and be cheap finds like Maroon and Kassian turned out to be ? Doubt Flames new goalie tandem any better than last years tandem to be honest .

    • DerpSolo

      I think both teams will have good years. It’d be nice to see Alberta push out Cali for division title. I hope strome can fill the eberle hole, because 21 goals and 51 points isn’t exactly easy to replace

      • madjam

        I do not know if Strome can replace that figure by himself , but Jesse may exceed it if he is ready this season . Jokinen should beat Pouliot’s numbers from last year . I am expecting big things from Jesse this year .

      • Connor'sGotHart,Ross,Lindsay!

        Edmonton didn’t suffer offensively when Hall was traded and they won’t suffer with Eberle gone and Stromre is a way better all around player.
        Shows edge when he plays too, them again so do all Chiarelli players!

        • Carl the tooth

          Where do these guys come from hey ? Gio still had 39 points and good he gets back to 50 plus again next season . Soiler fans do know that Johnny mony Tkachuk bennet are just kids yet haven’t even scratched the surface yet . And lots of help on the way . Hmmmm how many rfa s did flames let walk or trade only a couple obvious ones but I’d say that says a lot about the depth in the system and why flames could dish out a few picks for the heck of it . I’m pretty sure it’s not like flames can’t trade them back for even more assets for hamonic and stone .hiliarious these Soilers are hating the trevling summer show lol it only gets worse for Soilers next season lol last chance one collarbone away from a debacle of epic proportions as mc t would say get ready to toss some jerseys on the ice at your new tin toilet rink suits the Soilers perfect .

    • TheoForever

      Giordano had great season defensively, his offence took backseat so Hamilton could do his thing. Together they were the best pairing in the league. Brodie played well once he got paired with stone, having to switch from right to left side while dragging bad players in a new system wasn’t easy.
      Oilers lost a big chunk of their offence. Sekera will be missed. To be honest I expect Oilers to regress significantly.

        • TheoForever

          When you stop trolling on FN like complete loser then I will acknowledge your existance. …and once again… You cannot read, and you dont know what you talking about.

      • Mr. J

        How did the oilers lose a big chunk of offence? If you are referring to eberle then that is wrong. Eberle was garbage these last two years. Offence dried up significantly and well his defensive game …. Yeah he’s about as defensive as Jonny. Nuff said.

        • TheoForever

          Yeah, I’m way off on this one, but hey anything to justify a bad trade, right.
          Ebsy: 2015-2016: 69GP-25G-22A-47Pts and 2016-2017:82GP-20G-31A-51Pts
          Strome on the other hand, after a short stint in AHL in 2015-2016………, really broke out defensively. I will grant you one thing, Strome does replace Ebsy positionally as both guys are perimeter players.

        • TheoForever

          The guy that wrote this article says: ‘They swapped Jordan Eberle for Ryan Strome, a deal that saves them some cap room and adds some versatility to the roster, but loses them a pretty significant amount of offence.”. Yeah, way off on this one………..

          • Carl the tooth

            gio and Hamilton put up 40-50 points every season . gio last 4 seasons 288 games played 58 goals 190 points plus 42 Hamilton last 3 seasons 235 games 35 goals 135 points show me better ? No seriously showwwwww…….meeeeeee…….better ……or just be quiet listen learn stats don’t lie!!!!

        • DerpSolo

          This was the same thing these flames fools were saying last year, with their shiny new signings in the offseason, and how their gonna be SO much better than the Oilers. #FlamesFlopAGAIN

          • DerpSolo

            oh no, you made a draft lottery joke! What will I do? I guess I’ll just have to be content with Oilers having the best player in the world on their team. We won the lottery until we got it right. #AllHailConnor

          • TheoForever

            The arrogant and out of touch commentary coming from fans like you after one playoff appearance in 11 years on the back of Talbot is entertaining…. Oiler regression coming in couple of months, will need popcorn…..

          • DerpSolo

            Lol, I didn’t know you were in love with Sid the kid. I guess when johnny hogwash is your best offensive threat, you start cheering for other teams. But hey, I don’t blame anyone for bandwagoning with the pens. It must be hard since flames get knocked out of the first round every year

          • TheoForever

            4 years of rebuild, made playoffs twice and won a round.
            11 years of rebuild, made playoffs once and won a round. 4 #1 picks, plus an army of other high picks…… With record like yours, it takes some kind of delusional to make fun of our team……..

          • DerpSolo

            And yet, flames are still in the same boat as the Oilers. Cupless for the past twenty plus years. At least Oilers have more than one ?
            So congratulations on that. Finishing 7 points ahead the Oilers for the past ten years must be amazing, too bad when the playoffs roll around, the C in Calgary stands for choke. So congrats on being less terrible, but still nonetheless, losers.

          • TheoForever

            I don’t blame you for seeking a partner in your misery, but the greatest run of ineptitude and stupidity in pro-sports belongs to Oilers alone, wear it proud. You have been pounded and worn like a hand puppet by every team in the NHL, but keep up with denial ……..
            2 more months and Oilers will redefine regression by descending to their natural resting position as a bottom feeder, will need popcorn for this one.

          • DerpSolo

            The only thing you’ll need popcorn for is when Oilers sweep the flames in the playoffs… and or when johnny hogwash gets traded to his favourite team philly

          • TheoForever

            Not going to happen, with one of the worst defense groups that bleeds 2nd chances and high danger shots, you guys aren’t making the playoffs. It was a one year abomination, all it will take is for Talbot to play league average and it is another ping pong ball for the Oil and draft parties for the fans….., I’m sure everyone misses those: suck for Yak, dishonor for Connor, fall for hall, and whatever the other tank job you did for RNH………..

          • DerpSolo

            But unfortunately, I have run out of popcorn and patience for this conversation. When the season starts, and Calgary gets blown out of the water once again, the popcorn I recommend is the Orville Redenbauchers buttery popcorn, super tasty. But I understand that flames fans prefer beer instead of popcorn while watching games, since you all act like your drunk anyways. Don’t forget to respond to this comment although unfortunately I won’t be able to read it, I’m tired of talking to a brick wall theo. have a great summer little guy

          • TheoForever

            From the start of this conversation you brought up no facts and no supporting evidence, and now you run with your tail between your legs, ohh well………. Have a nice summer.

        • Carl the tooth

          gio and Hamilton put up 40-50 points every season . gio last 4 seasons 288 games played 58 goals 190 points plus 42 Hamilton last 3 seasons 235 games 35 goals 135 points show me better ? No seriously showwwwww…….meeeeeee…….better ……or just be quiet listen learn stats don’t lie!!!! Us fools we like our elite defence to rack up them points like that .now show me your soiler defence stats bbbahahahahahahahaha kidding me what a joke it’s undeniable

        • Carl the tooth

          Derdpo last ten years only 7 points ahead lolol your kidding me flames have dominated and finished ahead of Soilers for over a decade previous the lockout season being pretty close besides that your not even in the same league must have been sleeping through iginla and kipper show .