TIM THOMAS DISSES WHITE HOUSE

When we first read on the Twitterz that Tim Thomas was skipping out on the traditional "Stanley Cup winners meet the President trip to the White House" we rolled our eyes and wondered what was going through the old boy’s head. Now we aren’t so sure what to think.

Thomas released a statement on the matter:

"I believe the Federal government has grown out of control, threatening the Rights, Liberties, and Property of the People.

This is being done at the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial level. This is in direct opposition to the Constitution and the Founding Fathers vision for the Federal government.

Because I believe this, today I exercised my right as a Free Citizen, and did not visit the White House. This was not about politics or party, as in my opinion both parties are responsible for the situation we are in as a country. This was about a choice I had to make as an INDIVIDUAL.

This is the only public statement I will be making on this topic.

— TT"

Now if there is anyone less qualified to speak on matters of politics and protest it is your ol’ pal Wanye. But we can set up a bit of a debate on this rare instance when American politics and the NHL collide.

THE ONE SIDE

One can argue that it is a tremendous honour to meet the President of the United States – regardless of your political affiliations or whatever axes you have to grind with the Government. Getting a tour of the White House, meeting the Commander in Chief and presenting him with the obligatory jersey is a once in a lifetime honour that most of us regular Joes couldn’t even hope to get.

One could make a convincing case that skipping out on something like this is not only disrespectful to your team but to the United States as a whole. These folks would say that hockey players have no business making protests like this.

Regardless of what you feel you should go to the White House like a good 2011 Cup Champion and keep your mouth shut and smile for the cameras.

ON THE OTHER HAND

 

One could also choose to admire the stance that Thomas has taken. His statement on the matter is amazingly lucid – how many other professional athletes have "excercised their rights as a Free Citizen" in a public manner like this? It also shows a level of awareness and thought – this clearly isn’t a simple matter of "I don’t like Obama therefore I won’t go to the White House."

It raises the visibility of a growing protest against the Government in the US and even made the headlines of our favourite consipiracy/economic blog Zero Hedge. There the support for Thomas in the comments section was very strong – until it devolved into Canucks hating (which was also quite entertaining):

Al Gorerhythm: Well done TT. I hope that it is not your last public statement on these matters though. We need folk in highly visible positions to spread the news. Kudos.

Arkadaba: As a Habs fan – well you know. Kudos to him for taking a stand. And he has a lot to lose like endorsements etc. (which he will). Should be NHL player of the year.

Because of Thomas’ protest, this is now making international headlines – here is a take from the Sydney Morning Herald:

"Goaltender Thomas insisted his decision to snub the ceremony with US President Barack Obama, a Democrat, was not a partisan gesture in favour of the opposing Republican party, but a decision based on his belief that the US government has too much influence on American individuals’ lives."

SO WHAT’S YOUR TAKE?

How do you read this whole thing? Do professional athletes have any business making political statements like this? Or should they keep their opinions to themselves and stick to what they know? We would cheerfully ship them to meet the ghost of Kim Jong Il if it meant the Oilers would win the Cup.

But we are a simple minded non-partisan after all.

  • Time Travelling Sean

    I just think he could have handled it better. Of course it is anyone and everyone’s right to say and do what the feel is right but there are a few things I would have thought twice about if I was in that situation. First of all, it is a ceremonial procedure where the President congratulates the team on their success. It has nothing to do with politics and thus it should be left asisde (which it wasn’t no matter what TT states). Secondly, when a prominent figure, in this case TT, refuses to even see the President it fuels all which is bad in today’s political environment. We can have different views but it is key that we are able to understand that political views in the US are not personal. Democrats and Republicans should be able to talk to each other and sometimes even be friends. The differences are in policy and should be kept at that.

    It’s just disturbing when a prominent figure like TT not only refuses to attend a cerimonial event at the White House but also feels the need to go out and justify it in the way he did.

  • Time Travelling Sean

    He continued nevertheless to develop his ideas, and in four books published over seven years—The Robots’ Rebellion (1994), And the Truth Shall Set You Free (1995), The Biggest Secret (1999), and Children of the Matrix (2001)—set out a moral and political worldview that combined New-Age spiritualism with a passionate denunciation of totalitarian trends in the modern world. At the heart of his theories lies the idea that the world is becoming a global fascist state, that a secret group of reptilian humanoids called the Babylonian Brotherhood controls humanity, and that many prominent figures are reptilian, including George H. W. Bush, Queen Elizabeth II, Kris Kristofferson, and Boxcar Willie.

    LOL

  • Time Travelling Sean

    Oh I remember reading something and this guy said something like this “Our kids go halfway across the world to fight for democracy and we can’t cross the street to vote”

    And there was another remark “An assassination of a leader isn’t going to kill democracy, instead a chronic apathy shall be the end of democracy”

  • How dare Tim Thomas let the US constitution and the peoples rights to a free and fair society get in the way of a afternoon get together at the White House. Every one here today has witnessed something that should be eerily sobering.
    I think we can all say that we like to watch Hockey. It is that still small voice that tells you to do something to protect your rights and freedoms and put entertainment second. History shows us that freedom can be taken away and now God has given us Tim Thomas as another canary in the coal mind will we ignore him at our countries Pearle. I dare say I hope not. For those who say everything is okay I send you here infowars.com to see what the corporate media leaves out of your daily news. God bless us all we are past the 7th inning stretch so head this warning and protect your freedoms if not for you then the next generation.

  • OBC'84

    I heard this comparison today on Team 1040 radio: What Timmy did is analogous to not showing up at your sister’s wedding because you don’t like what the Catholic church gets up to. It’s not about you, it’s about your sister and the family. If you don’t show up you look like a d*ck.

    If you run Thomas’ facebook comment through the Gingrich-Beck DogWhistle Translator 2000 ™, ‘The government is too big and threatens life and property’ turns out as ‘the government is too black and I don’t want to pay any taxes.’

    I bet the Bruin’s room is a bit quieter today.

    • OBC'84

      Quinn the Eskimo your right its not about you its about what is happening in our halls of power. It’s about sacrifice when will you decide it is time to sacrifice Quinn? When?

      Quinn is a shining example of what not do when your Government is sold to the highest bidder and that is to crucify those who are brave enough and vigilant enough to see the totalitarian tiptoe that has turned into a totalitarian sprint and warn us at their own peril. Quinn your deception and deceit have been seen by all on here and I pray that God opens yours eyes and that we all repent.

  • Wax Man Riley

    Props Tim Thomas.

    I read comments that he doesn’t know what he is talking about, and is an idiot, and it is a selfish move, etc….

    When I see a country give no jail time to a group that murdered 24 people in cold blood,. I have to think, especially because he is American, that he has a great point.

    Of course it was political. When he said that it wasn’t, he was talking about it not being toward either party, but the entire system.

  • It is easy to point the finger at someone who stands up for what they believe in. It’s also easy to buckle under any time the going gets tough or when someone is going to judge you for your beliefs. I applaud Thomas for not sacrificing his integrity as a man by saying one thing but doing another. As for his team mates I think they should applaud him as well. It is that type of man that you want to go in to battle with.
     
     Tim Thomas did not use his status or this opportunity as a soap box. He made a clear and concise statement to explain his actions and left it at that. Whether you agree with his beliefs or not, you can not question his character.
     

  • Those of you saying that he’s a db or made it all about him have probably never truly stood for or believed in anything strongly enough to allow him or herself to be judged and persicuted for it. Take a good look in the mirror and ask yourself if you have the courage to do what you believe in on the world stage versus what’s popular. I bet not.

  • Arch said

    But believing in fairies, dragons, and libertarian values is a right that the idiots inherited from smarter people.

    Wow, guilt by being associated in the same sentence. That’s some kind of logic. You do yourself a discredit sir. You’re right, ideas aren’t equal. You just proved it by offering up this crap as an argument. But perhaps at least you understand that Thomas’ protest is because of the very reason that ideas aren’t equal nor are events. And some ideas are very very important and some events get a helluva lot of attention.

    Kudos to Thomas and further kudos to Zero Hedge for running it (possibly the best site on the internet and thus I’m stunned Wanye reads it).

  • HOZ

    I would have gone if I was in his position. It all about team, family, community.

    BUT

    I support Tim Thomas for making his position clear. Big Trudeaupean governments suck the life out everyone. Big govs are sucky suckitudial sucky!

  • Thomas’s loss, but teams embarrassment . He should have kept his mouth shut and just not shown up leaving team to give a “canned answer ” for his absence . This was not reflective of his team, and put them all in an unfavorable position of trying to defend his speaking out in that manner . Politics has, and probably always will, mix with sports and entertainment in general . Thomas is entitled to his own personal opinions , but he should learn when to shut up when his actions effect and are reflective of the rest of his teammates and organization .

    • Beavis

      It is great we have a place where we can debate and speak on these matters. Tim’s stand on his Governments relentless assault on their Constitution which is similar to our Government taking away our charter of rights and freedoms. Now If this does not qualify for reason to miss the whitehouse tea party what does. Maybe the simpsons or MTV awards? Please enlighten me what am I missing. One more thing

      I am with my family it is a beautiful day we are heading to the lake. Finally this trip that we have planned for months is coming together. We start putting the supplies in the yacht and I see a small leak and there is a good chance it will spread? What do you do?
      1- Don’t say anything and go for this trip it is to important to cancel now the food will spoil and if the leak gets worse we will be okay because we have our life jackets.

      2- Or do you face facts and Tell the family the trip will have to wait until the leak is properly fixed and that our safety comes first.