Doing Their Job

Katz

I got the sense watching Kevin Lowe’s press conference last night that the local media were not going to go easy on him in the next few days, and that owner Daryl Katz’s heavy-handed attempt to cutoff conversation about the future of his head coach was going to backfire badly.

The early returns would seem to indicate that my feeling was right. We’ll start in the logical place, by taking a look at the rather excellent piece which appears in today’s Edmonton Journal under Dan Barnes’ by-line. Do read the entire thing, but there are a couple of excerpts that really stood out to me.

But the growing cacophony of discontent in fandom and the Edmonton media grew rather more hostile and centred on MacTavish Thursday afternoon and it prompted owner Daryl Katz to issue a cryptic, pre-game vote of confidence for his head coach, via text message to the team’s radio rights holder. He’s the boss, he can deliver his edicts any damn way and any damn time he chooses but this one seems to leap off the pages of a Wizard of Oz script, the unseen boss disseminating a message through a radio conduit.

Barnes hits the nail on the head there. Katz certainly has the power to run his team the way he likes, but a single “cryptic” text message is certainly not the best way to get the message out.

It was Barnes at last night’s press conference who raised the question of whether Craig MacTavish might be back in a different capacity next season. Lowe refused to answer. He delves into it further in his column today and he took away the same thought that both David Staples and I did; namely that the Oilers press conference last night left many questions unanswered – most specifically, the very question that Daryl Katz wished to quiet: the future of the head coach.

Barnes feels that Craig MacTavish will resign if and when the Oilers miss the playoffs; it seems like a reasonable conclusion to me.

Terry Jones, who I expected little from after his mild question to Lowe last night, surprised me with his column this morning. In retrospect it shouldn’t have been so surprising to me; Jones has always been suspicious of Katz in his columns. If memory serves it was Jones who first raised the name of Peter Pocklington when the EIG were considering selling the team to a single owner.

But it is Jones this morning who raises one of the other questions that I had last night: why wasn’t Steve Tambellini handling the press conference?

Obviously the owner has every right to be part of the process. But what does this say about the hockey people you hire?
In this case, especially, what does it say of Tambellini?
Does this not announce that he’s been hired as a puppet?
One of the reasons Tambellini was hired was to spend most of the year looking at this team and deciding what changes had to be made for the future – an outside opinion to look at everything top to bottom and make major decisions for the future. Not knee-jerk decisions.

Whatever the answers to these questions are going forward, it seems apparent that the local media wants them. That, of course, is a good thing – it’s their job.

  • Hippy

    @ jdrevenge:
    FlamesFan wrote:

    moose66 wrote:
    I THINK ITS TIME TO STOP SUPPORTING REXALL DRUGS!!!! SHOPPERS DRUG MART LOOKS ALOT MORE APPEALING EVERYDAY!!! I don’t buy drugs from ghosts!
    Way to be an owner, class act!! Sending a text has to be the most rediculous thing i have seen an owner do in many years! A total LOSER! Although a RICH Loser!
    You sound very childish. If you do not like the oilers way of playing the game or how management or ownership runs their team then dont buy it. , drugstores have nothing to do with anything im sure him and 2300 stores in north america would get effected by a couple hundred edmonton residents who didnt buy asswipe from the drugstore.

    That's how disillusioned you are when saying a couple of hundred Oilers fans! Don't you have your own fan blog to go too?

  • Hippy

    jdrevenge wrote:

    @ FlamesFan:
    Its supply and demand my friend. If they piss off enough people by acting like we’ll buy it just cuz… there wont be anyone to buy it anymore. If they get too cocky they enter Harold Ballard/Chicago Blackhawks territory. Not that any of them are that stupid… I’m just saying that they should tread lightly.
    It wasnt that long ago that the city abandoned them… It could happen again.

    First off , Your right supply and demand. I believe there is endless amount of demand , and their is always supply as long as there are seats at rexall. You have to understand something also , the oilers are also a team for mainly northern alberta also. You got people from red deer, to fort mac , grand praire , lakeleand area who drive down to these games, there is endless amounts of fans willing to fill those seats up. But one thing here its not mac t the problem guys .

  • Hippy

    Rick wrote:

    From what I heard of it KLowe was addressing Katz’s text message, not the team. As such I think the president of hockey ops is a more appropriate conduit to represent the owner than the GM. The GM is supposed to be the conduit that represents the team.

    On the other hand, Katz's comments were on whether the head coach would be retained or not, and the guy who should be the driving force behind that decision is the GM, Steve Tambellini.

    The fact that Lowe held the conference would seem to indicate that Lowe still has more say than Tambellini in whether MacTavish gets to keep his job.

  • Hippy

    @ moose66:

    moose66 wrote:

    That’s how disillusioned you are when saying a couple of hundred Oilers fans! Don’t you have your own fan blog to go too?

    Lol… friggin flames fans. This is what they do when the Oil start tanking. I know this cuz we've seen it alot over the last few years. Its in their blood to avenge their losses of years past just before the playoffs start… Before the C on the jersey doesnt stand for Calgary anymore.

  • Hippy

    moose66 wrote:

    @ jdrevenge:
    FlamesFan wrote:

    moose66 wrote:
    I THINK ITS TIME TO STOP SUPPORTING REXALL DRUGS!!!! SHOPPERS DRUG MART LOOKS ALOT MORE APPEALING EVERYDAY!!! I don’t buy drugs from ghosts!
    Way to be an owner, class act!! Sending a text has to be the most rediculous thing i have seen an owner do in many years! A total LOSER! Although a RICH Loser!
    You sound very childish. If you do not like the oilers way of playing the game or how management or ownership runs their team then dont buy it. , drugstores have nothing to do with anything im sure him and 2300 stores in north america would get effected by a couple hundred edmonton residents who didnt buy asswipe from the drugstore.
    That’s how disillusioned you are when saying a couple of hundred Oilers fans! Don’t you have your own fan blog to go too?

    ahhh ya couple hundred people who buy asswhipe from there tell me how many people here ever been in a rexall for that matter. I been to his other stores IDA but who cares bout that. What does his drugstores got to do with anything . what im saying is u can shut all those edmonton stores down and wouldnt be a peanut of his sack. That is childish in a sense what does his other business dealings got to do with this. flames fan but ill nutthug katz and mac t on this one .

  • Hippy

    jdrevenge wrote:

    You sound very childish. If you do not like the oilers way of playing the game or how management or ownership runs their team then dont buy it. 🙂 , drugstores have nothing to do with anything im sure him and 2300 stores in north america would get effected by a couple hundred edmonton residents who didnt buy asswipe from the drugstore.

    i told you i attend more oiler games then most of you , i go to about 10 of them a year when i can i also stated im not an oilers fan flames fan first. But i do love hockey i said that what does this got to do with the oilers tanking? Im pulling for them or was i should say. I still like the oilers and i believe they are a class act organization. But im just trying to give you a perspective in a way that im not bias to anyone or the team. Way i see it Not mac t the problem.

  • Hippy

    Archaeologuy wrote:

    Maybe on top of wanting to own a hockey team he wanted to meet the Sasquatch. Now its up to John to tell him it was just a movie.

    Best…movie….EVER!

    …if you grew up in the 80's.

  • Hippy

    Well Sir , You have to understand if you do not like it watch it on tv if you think the oilers are not worth the tickets. Im not even a oilers fan , Im actually a flames fan. But i do attend about 10 home games for the oilers because i love hockey and don’t care if i shell out couple hundred a game for tickets heck if i could get season tickets i would buy them . Just like any other business this is sport , Its called Sports Entertainment. If you do not feel like your entertainment value then please do not watch or go to the games. As for rich hockey team owners they can do whatever they like especially in canadian markets and big U.S ones. For every person who doesn’t renew a season ticket there are 10 more ready to buy regardless of win /loss records. Heck Mr.Katz can move the damn team if he wanted too and hire his grandma as Head coach it doesn’t matter what fans think. You do not like people running your own business or getting into it so im sure team owners dont like it either. If anyone needs a talking to here is Kevin lowe he has continued on with bad judgements and signings ,not mac T. The poor guy is only working with what he is given. Just like when you go to work , for example if your a mechanic and you don’t got a wrench it’s going to be mighty hard to turn that nut by hand.But you will try with all your will power to get it off. But sometimes it just doesn’t work. (mAc T is only working with the tools he is given . Kevin Lowe Seized everything.

  • Hippy

    I bet Brian Burke is having a great laugh at the Oilers expense now, just seeing what a dysfunctional group it is. All Oiler fans should be embarassed. We are the ones who support this team. With out the fans there is nothing. We stood up for Lowe when Burke ripped the Organization, And to talk about moving it? No chance in hell will Batman let it move, we have to support the coyotes and Predators. This team is in a huge mess and I don't see it all "repaired" this time next year, when all the contracts, including Hemsky are another year less, players older and we wait for Gagner who will flee once he gets a chance.

  • Hippy

    jdrevenge wrote:

    @ moose66:
    moose66 wrote:
    That’s how disillusioned you are when saying a couple of hundred Oilers fans! Don’t you have your own fan blog to go too?
    Lol… friggin flames fans. This is what they do when the Oil start tanking. I know this cuz we’ve seen it alot over the last few years. Its in their blood to avenge their losses of years past just before the playoffs start… Before the C on the jersey doesnt stand for Calgary anymore.

    *Even when sour, leave it to Oil fan to trot out there 5 Stanley Cups. Does that mean the Leafs are better? Didn't think so.*

    The City of Past Champions

    Ooooh…ahhh…wow…look at them

  • Hippy

    Jonathan Willis wrote:

    On the other hand, Katz’s comments were on whether the head coach would be retained or not, and the guy who should be the driving force behind that decision is the GM, Steve Tambellini.
    The fact that Lowe held the conference would seem to indicate that Lowe still has more say than Tambellini in whether MacTavish gets to keep his job.

    But the distinction I am making is that KLowe didn't address MacT's future, he only addressed the so called reasoning behind Katz's comment.

    In fact I thought Lowe almost came off sounding clumsy (I usually find him quite well spoken in front of the camera) in the way he was answering the questions because he went to such great lengths of deflecting what was being asked so that there wasn't an indicator one way or the other in terms of what hockey ops is or was leaning towards.

    I agree with those that have suggested that the organization seemed very much caught off guard by what went down last night.

    At least from the part I heard so maybe I stand to be corrected.

    I agree that if the presser was actually about MacT's future as a coach that Tambellini should have been the guy front and center.

    As an aside, I have seen a couple references about comments made about CHED and Stauffer looking like he had been held over a grill at the presser. Like I said I didn't (and can't right now) listen to the comments so can someone summarize it for me?

  • Hippy

    @ FlamesFan:

    I'm not saying that Mac is the problem. They guy has obviously run into some sh*t luck this year combined with the inconsistency of the young guys and the divisions of the room.

    What I was taking issue with was that you said that I could stop watching and that they don't work for me. Ultimately without gate revenue and profit from goods sold with the Oilers logo on it bought by us the fans we wouldnt even be having this discussion. They cannot act like a dictatorship regime and need to start listening a little more to the voice of the ON.

    If we want to discuss the future of the coach we are allowed to and the fact that the PR of the Oilers is trying to hush this is retarded. Its been a bad year for the organization in regards to its fan base and if they're smart they'll take a look in the mirror and realize that they did it to themselves not the other way around. Admittedly the fans/media have made a habit of running people out of town that may or may not have deserved it but thats for us to discuss and for them to listen. Collectively 75000 should be able to come up with a more balanced decision than the 3/4 running the franchise. Granted we dont have privy to the room and the personalities off the ice but at teh very least they shouldnt be trying to curb our fanaticism by telling us that we shouldnt be discussing things.

  • Hippy

    FlamesFan wrote:

    *pats you on the back* “its gonna be okay”

    SHREIIIIIK
    *runs away convulsing and shivering with a look of terror on his face*

    It touched me!!! IT TOUCHED ME…. get it offffffff…get it offfffffffff. Is it still on me? It's still on me isn't it…GET IT OFF! Anyone? Am i going to survive? IEEEEEE…..

    *looks cautiously around the room only to see FlamesFan still watching him*

    AHHHHHHHH!

  • Hippy

    I'm a Scientist! wrote:

    FlamesFan wrote:

    *pats you on the back* “its gonna be okay”
    SHREIIIIIK
    *runs away convulsing and shivering with a look of terror on his face*
    It touched me!!! IT TOUCHED ME…. get it offffffff…get it offfffffffff. Is it still on me? It’s still on me isn’t it…GET IT OFF! Anyone? Am i going to survive? IEEEEEE…..
    *looks cautiously around the room only to see FlamesFan still watching him*
    AHHHHHHHH!

    it is still here mwahahahahahahha

  • Hippy

    Nice Quote from Cogs on Barnes article

    "They seem to get it, but Andrew Cogliano was struggling with it. He talked about a "negative energy" from the fans and media and said he was reluctant to leave his house for a couple of days, given the mood in the community. He needs to chill, to embrace life in the fishbowl even when the water is choppy"

  • Hippy

    I think it would be good to remember the current oiler organization is not yet a year old. Even though many of the worker bees are the same, it will take some time for the reorientation of operating mandate to take effect. You don't just go from survival, living from day to day, mode to long term sure of tomorrow type of planning. I|t is to be expected for the organization to be a little confused and disoriented at the moment since the ground rules have totally changed.
    The players we have were all signed under the mind set of the old organization and some decisions made would not be made under current ownership conditions, i.e. pay to much for players like Horcoff, letting players go, canceling farm teams etc. Whether KLowe and the others can adapt to the new conditions is a moot point at the moment but the owner, the most important opinion, seems to think they will.
    I don't know about you all, but if my financial situation suddenly improved 100% I expect I would regret some decisions made in the past and make a few more while getting used to the new circumstances. This summer will begin to tell the tale, operationally, even if they don't fire the coach.

  • Hippy

    Reggie wrote:

    Well, at the midway point of the 3rd period the wave was going around like crazy in the rink, yet there was no excitement from the team on the ice. I guess it takes more than the wave to get them excited ? it wasn’t loud enough ? the cheer wasn’t on key ? [insert dripping sarcasm icon here]

    Seriously? No excitement from the team on the ice? Really…The third period of last nights game was about as good a period as this team has put together this year. They checked, they won battles, they had chances. I understand being pissed about the season, Katz, text messages, or whatever, but use facts…not something that you have made up.

  • Hippy

    I was similarly heartened to read today's media treatment and we might be on the right track.

    Now all we need to see is how they react the next time Lowe comes out of his bunker.

    If we've got a reporter who chimes out something like, "Hold on, didn't Lowe create this mess."?

    Well, then, we'll be in business.

    but today was a good start and i was wondering how long it would take before someone nailed the Oil for that pathetic video urging fans who sell out the building every night to cheer on their bloody club.

  • Hippy

    caloilfan wrote:

    Reggie wrote:

    Well, at the midway point of the 3rd period the wave was going around like crazy in the rink, yet there was no excitement from the team on the ice. I guess it takes more than the wave to get them excited ? it wasn’t loud enough ? the cheer wasn’t on key ? [insert dripping sarcasm icon here]
    Seriously? No excitement from the team on the ice? Really…The third period of last nights game was about as good a period as this team has put together this year. They checked, they won battles, they had chances. I understand being pissed about the season, Katz, text messages, or whatever, but use facts…not something that you have made up.

    i agreee they played well what was he watching? huh reggie?

  • Hippy

    FlamesFan wrote:

    I’m a Scientist! wrote:
    FlamesFan wrote:
    *pats you on the back* “its gonna be okay”
    SHREIIIIIK
    *runs away convulsing and shivering with a look of terror on his face*
    It touched me!!! IT TOUCHED ME…. get it offffffff…get it offfffffffff. Is it still on me? It’s still on me isn’t it…GET IT OFF! Anyone? Am i going to survive? IEEEEEE…..
    *looks cautiously around the room only to see FlamesFan still watching him*
    AHHHHHHHH!
    it is still here mwahahahahahahha

    This reminds me of that summer i spent at Neverland Ranch

  • Hippy

    The reason Tambo was not the speaker at the news conference was because as far as Katz is concerned he is not the functional GM. At the least he is not the person who will have any say about MacT's future.

  • Hippy

    Clarkenstein wrote:

    Flames Fan… please!!! If you get the chance to Fcuk off make sure you take it.

    why are you pissed off? i didnt do nothing you trying to have a conversation here whats with the put downs, Why dont you just get out of here.

  • Hippy

    FlamesFan wrote:

    Clarkenstein wrote:
    Flames Fan… please!!! If you get the chance to Fcuk off make sure you take it.
    why are you pissed off? i didnt do nothing you trying to have a conversation here whats with the put downs, Why dont you just get out of here.

    LOL. We're angry!!!!!

    Flames fan i responded to you earlier but was censored… sigh… it wasnt anything mean just me taking issue with the fact that you said i could stop watching… its compulsive and i cant stop, wont stop.