Famous Demotions

Magnus Paajarvi took it like a man. A demotion is never an easy thing, but older folks will tell you good things can come from times of trouble. The list of men who have gone before him is, well, pretty damn long.

The most famous Oiler demotion came early in franchise history. Mark Messier had done a few things to get the attention of the elders, but missing a flight won him a ticket to the Central Hockey League. In late October of 1979, the news hit the fan.

Legend has it Messier partied all of his days in Houston and came back as cocky as ever. Either way, Paajarvi’s situation is different and not nearly as famous.

Magnus Paajarvi lost his job. I can create a back story that suggests coach Renney didn’t put him in a position to succeed but then again the player didn’t exactly force him to re-think the decision to move him down the depth chart. He isn’t scoring and what’s more he is spending little time in the scoring zones and his healthy scratches are becoming more common.

It’s time for a change, 


Not that bad. Paajarvi has played 273 minutes at even strength with 3 assists. If he had three more points the young man would be on the same pace as one year ago. I don’t think it’s terminal and in fact will help him get some swagger back. We should be watching for lots of goals and assists, a player of Magnum’s calibre should be able to score at more than a point-per-game. The AHL is a tough league so he’ll have to work for it.


The Oilers haven’t had a failed first round pick since Rob Schremp in 2004–I define a failed first round pick as any skater with fewer than 250 NHL games played–and Paajarvi is extremely unlikely to fail as an NHLer to that level. He may have to change his game a little and become less of a perimeter player. He’s skilled and has great speed, but NHL goaltenders get beaten most of the time in the offensive scoring zones.

Magnus Paajarvi spends too little time in those zones. Perimeter skill forwards with average shots don’t survive in the NHL.


It’s a busy Nation Radio today on Team 1260 at noon.

  • David Staples from the Cult of Hockey will talk to us about the difficulty the Oilers have been facing over the last few weeks.
  • Jim Byers from the OKC Barons will be on to talk about OKC and their outstanding run. We’ll also find out which players are carrying the mail.
  • Cam Moon from the Red Deer Rebels will help us preview the world juniors and talk to us about 2012 draft prospect Matt Dumba.
  • Bruce McCurdy will also chime in on the WJ’s and tell us about the Oil Kings too. Bruce always has an opinion on the Oilers and we’ll ask him about the Paajarvi demotion.
  • Terry Jones will pop by to talk Oilers and we’ll talk about his HHOF experience.
  • Kirk Luedeke from Redline Report will help us set the table for the WJ’s.

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  • John Chambers

    Montreal fires thier coach. See all it took was a Gomez groin pull to pull the plug on Martin.The Canadians have looked more and more like the NJ Devils of old. When Leblanc scored his first goal the other night the place went nuts. You think that the fans want to watch another washed up bum like Gomez? Leblanc is what they want. A french Canadian who can score. The Canadians have forgotten who they are/The Motreal freakin Canadians. Not some ragtag bunch of NHL has beens like Gomez and Cole. The next step. Fire the GM.

  • John Chambers

    The Oilers and MP will be better off with him in OKC. MP will get his mojo back and that will in turn help the Oilers moving forward.

    My doghouse is not empty though. As much as I like Belanger and Eager both have dissapointed me this season. Cam Barker I’ll hold opinon on till the end of the season. But it looks like a rethink is in order when it comes to how or where we see Cam Barker in the lineup.

    Lastly. When is Omark due to be back in the lineup for OKC? His return would be a boon to the lineup and to MP.

    P.s. Would you trade Tom Gilbert to Philly for Courtier? Or Shenn?

    • a lg dubl dubl

      I’d trade Gilbert in a heartbeat, even though he’s impressed me the last couple games, but to get coutuire or shenn that would call for Eberle and a 1st rd pick and besides shenn is out long term with a concussion.

      • Oilers89

        The reasoning behind my thought to to trade Gilbert is the fact that Gilbert has played well. He is at an alltime high in terms of market value. The Flyers are in need of a puck moving dman who can chew up 2-25 minutes a night. Courtier is an unproven forward on a team flush with forward depth. He played a grand total of 5:31 today and was -1 against Boston. By trading for him I believe we can shore up our 2cd line with a player who has size and skill. Gilbert is going to be a #2 or 3 dman for years to come. Philly needs a dman right now. We need a cd line center with “size” to compliment what we have in RNH,Hall and Eberle.

        Hemsky is not going to play on the 2cd line moving forward. My other thought was to package Hemsky and Eager to the Rangers for Dylan McIlwrath and a pick. The Rangers could use Hesky’s skill and Eagers grit. We could use a monster like DM on the backend who hits and plays tough.

        This team is not good enough from 4-12. The backend needs some size and toughness moving forward. A player like Hemsky has value to the right team and so does Gilbert. I think its the right time to utilize those assets to aquire the assets we will need moving forward when we will be able to compete.

      • Ummm what?

        Eberle and a 1st would be WAY WAY too much for either one of those players. What the heck about either of those gives you the feeling theyd be worth that much?

        Oh and trading one of our only steady, healthy defensemen for more help up front would be the last thing this team needs.

        Edit to add: a first (which is likely around a #5-10) AND Eberle for either last years #8 or #5 from 2009?) You’re off your rocker.

        • a lg dubl dubl

          Coutuier and/or Shenn, aren’t worth Eberle and a 1st imo, I said that because I’m sure that’s what philly would want in return for 2 top 10 picks

          I was hoping ST would have traded to get Coutuier before philly took him.

        • a lg dubl dubl

          Coutuier and/or Shenn, aren’t worth Eberle and a 1st imo, I said that because I’m sure that’s what philly would want in return for 2 top 10 picks

          I was hoping ST would have traded to get Coutuier before philly took him.

  • John Chambers

    Back in ’95 or ’96 the Sather-led Oilers routinely sent 3 or 4 young guys down (or brought them up) at a time. I liked the idea. Play in both leagues, get a chance to work our your weaknesses, and appreciate your time in the show.

    In an episode of Oil Change Renney said that OKC wasn’t punishment and that guys should be happy to hone their skills there. I guess I would’ve preferred to see them use the farm as a destination for a struggling player like Paajarvi earlier in the season, and maybe we’d be talking about calling him up in January.