HARD TARGET SEARCH: MARK GIORDANO

 

In their search for legit help on the blueline, Edmonton must look everywhere and that includes the team down the QE2. The Calgary Flames are in a different part of their rebuild, and although the price would be high, Mark Giordano could be a perfect fit for the Oil.   

Giordano is in a really productive part of his career. At 30, he’s played over 300 games and displays a wide range of skills and a great deal of leadership. He should be able to play deep into his 30’s and can supply any NHL team with a steady reliable player in all situations.

THE VOLLMAN SLEDGEHAMMER

Here’s this year’s sledgehammer, Giordano is such a nice player. Toughest opposition and some unattractive zone starts (Brodie too) and even with that he’s pretty close to even at Corsi. There’s all kinds of positives—25 minutes a night, six goals on the power play—and he’s a solid defender. The only negative you can find is his size (6.0, 200), but he’s strong enough to win battles.

This is an unusual graph, there’s no one in the "two-way" upper right quadrant and just two in the "shutdown" group. Only Giordano is playing the toughs, which suggests to me the Flames tried a few partners and then moved on. Calgary’s defense isn’t very good here, basically Giordano, Wideman and Brodie, little wonder they’ve added pieces.

Bouwmeester and Butler were the shutdown defenders in 11-12, neither doing a terribly good job. Giordano got the zone start push but still played the toughs—this season really differs only in zone starts—and when they dealt Bouwmeester they moved Giordano into the more difficult role. Considering the quality of the team, and the quality of competition he’s facing, Giordano looks like a pretty solid option. Consistent, with some offensive ability, and he’s a lefthander who could probably work with both Petry and Justin Schultz. He did miss 18 games earlier this season due to injury, but that’s an occupational hazard. 

Note: The Sledgehammer graphs above are here, and thanks to Extra Skater for the playing card.

NO DAMN WAY CALGARY TRADES HIM TO EDMONTON

Yeah.

WHAT DOES IT ALL MEAN?

 

The Oilers have a high draft pick, and the Flames are rebuilding. I’m not going to get into the value of a top 5 pick and Giordano’s worth compared to Michael Dal Colle or Leon Draisaitl, but there should be a deal in there somewhere with additional talent involved to make things equal. 

Mark Giordano closely resembles exactly what the Oilers are looking for this offseason.

    • Bean-counting cowboy

      Another Flames fan here. I second this… BIG TIME. Gio is the heart and soul of the whole team and is a tremendous leader for the young players that will be coming the next few years.

      If Gio were traded the Flames would suck hard and for sure sink to the bottom of the league. I don’t think that would promote the proper team mentality.

      • brackenbury

        No doubt about it. U need a couple solid veteran guys around
        For mentoring the kids that r going to come up through
        The system. Flames have a terrific player in MG.

      • Burnward

        Hate to break it to you skippy but the Flamers are at the bottom of the league as I write this. All biased aside trading a 30 yr old dman for a top 5 pick doesnt sound to horrible for a rebuilding team

        • T&A4Flames

          Do you even pay attention to hockey? Your crap team is well below us and we have games in hand. You occupy the WC basement and only the sad sack Sabres are below in the league.

      • Burnward

        If your going to suck you may as well be the best at it,get some high picks this year and next year.I hope you get to pick 1st in 2015,and we get to watch a real battle of Alberta again.

        • TDM

          No offence, and I appreciate you wanting us to get mcdavid in 2015, but how’s that strategy of sucking hard to accumulate picks working out for you guys? I know I’ll get thumped on the trashes for this, given that it’s ON, but I think you guys have been conditioned to overvalue the influx of top flight picks over how you develop them. I’m not opposed to getting high picks, but trading a guy like Gio who is going to be a significant developmental role model in our transitional period doesn’t interest me. I think, perhaps incorrectly, that you guys have had to resort to prospect porn because things are so bleak up there. I just don’t want to overvalue picks that are unproven at best as part of our rebuild model in calgary.

          • Edsez

            You are right,our young guys were thrown to the dogs,I wouldn’t trade Gio either.But you need to get some top picks.With all the losing in Edmonton,it is still fun to watch players like Hall,and Nug develop.I too remember when Alberta was called death valley.

          • Zarny

            @ Albertabeef…do thee numbers look familiar to you….30, 30, 29, …those are the Oiler recent finishes in the standings or draft positioning..whatever makes you feel better. Oh by the way there is another 29 in your near future.

          • Tikkanese

            Ok – I’ll try this a little slower for you. Edmonton is BELOW Calgary – that’s why they are looking UP to them. I was saying something NICE about your team. I’m an Oiler fan, but I can see simple comments are still beyond you Flames fools.

      • T&A4Flames

        i dunno, man. the 2nd ad 3rd picks (Reinhart and Dreisatl), along with Monahan, Bertschi, Backlund? that’s a pretty attractive core. You’d be a fool to not at least consider it.

    • brackenbury

      Dave BB would b foolish for not considering a deal for the pick and perhaps some other assets. At this stage of calgary’s
      Rebuild it makes some sense to consider such an offer. Are
      You just sour because the oilers dumped smid on u? Or is it
      That the oil dumped S.Staios on the pumpkin head gm?
      Maybe third time is the charm?

  • #ThereGoesTheOilers

    Wow, this conversation went downhill fast.

    For the FLAMES FANS who are clogging up the comments section, two points were made in this article:

    1> Is Giordano the type of defenseman Edmonton needs? YES.

    2> Could he possibly be traded away? YES.

    These facts have nothing to do with the not-so-intelligent conversation underway about division standings and sentimenal attachment to a player. Try and stay on topic.

  • Not sure I want to give up 15 years of play(Ekblad) for 4-6 years from Giordano… But There’s no question that it is worth a look. He could be crucial in the development of guys lime Jultz, Nurse, Marincin, Klefbom, Fedun, and Gernat.

  • Parallex

    Not going to happen.

    It’s just not a good fit… as a Flames fan I’m pretty pleased with what the Flames have in development with regards to forward prospects but speaking honestly I think our organizational depth at defense is lacking so I would have little desire to see it weakened.

    That and the fact that I think a sizable portion of the fanbase (AKA the consumer of the product) would find the idea of trading the captain to the eternal rival distasteful.

    Not that it’s impossible… as far as I’m concerned no one is untouchable… but I think the cost would be such that no deal is realistically possible.

  • beloch

    Flames fan (and semi-oiler fan) here. I was initially intrigued by the notion of trading Giordano for Eberle and a 1st rounder. Edmonton’s first rounder will likely bring back a quality player, but Eberle… I’m a bit surprised, but he actually has more offensive zone starts and faces easier competition than most Oiler forwards and his possession stats are still pretty weak. Us Flames fans are also all too familiar with what happens when you bring a high-scoring forward from a team with no defensive structure (SWARM!!!) and expect him to play responsibly. His offensive production dries up. It’s happened to the Flames many times before, and Eberle looks like one more case of it.

    Now look at what Giordano does for the Flames or could do for the Oilers. Lowetide covered the stats well enough. Gio is a good defender, no doubt. I’d like to add that he plays much bigger than his height and weight indicate. I actually did a spit-take when I saw his weight, because he throws other players around better than Smid. I suppose a big part of being able to rag-doll an opponent is actually being able to catch up with him! However, the big thing about Giordano is his leadership. Nothing was given to him easily. He clawed his way into the NHL by will alone. The Flames, despite having nowhere near the talent the Oilers do and spending $11M less on salary, are ahead in the standings because the team plays their hearts out every night. Some of that is coaching, but Giordano also plays a huge part. If Edmonton acquired him, Giordano would elevate the entire club’s play. If the Flames lost him, the team would play with far less heart.

    Yes, Giordano is likely going to be too old by the time the Flames are a contender. Yes, smart asset management says trade him now. However, the Oilers have amply proven that kids being paid millions to play a game won’t magically develop a work ethic on their own. They need mentors. Giordano is mentoring the next generation of stars for the Flames. That’s worth something, quite probably a lot.

    Giordano for Eberle and a 1st round pick? Nope.

    • Serious Gord

      Well done.

      IMO gio may be the most valuable player to his team of any player in the NHL.

      He would be a perfect fit with the oil both as a 1/2 D and as a mentor.

      But I think if he has control of where he plays (an NTC) there is no way he would play in EDM with this management team and coaches.

      I also think that Burke would be loathe to move him unless there was a huge value coming back.

    • brackenbury

      How’s that now? Flames fan and semi-oiler fan? Do u live
      In Alberta? This has got to b some clear violation of
      A strict law written …. idk in Red Deer many years ago
      When Edmonton had the oilers and Calgary had the cowboys.
      I’m not sure what the punishment of said law is, in edm its
      Likely being locked in a room and forced to watch a 24hr
      Loop of Fleury’s ot winner that set him off on a goal line to center ice slide celly. In calgary its being forced to watch
      A 24hr loop of #99’s right guard shot to beat Vernon in
      Ot to seal a game 2 winner in CALGARY to put the oilers
      Up 2-0 and heading back to Edm. For game 3. And of course
      Slats one finger salute to the fans in the seats. Good times.
      Either way I guess your good.

      • beloch

        Born in Edmonton. Raised in Calgary. I was the kid whose parents dressed him in an Oilers sweater for hockey practices in Calgary. The Flames are my most beloved team, but I long for the days when Alberta was “Death Valley” to the rest of the league. You may think that I overvalue Giordano, but I merely reflect the love that Calgary has for this player. In all honesty, he’s worth less to the Oilers than the Flames would ever accept in trade and he’s worth more to the Flames than the Oilers would ever offer. Lowetide is just trolling us all!

  • Bean-counting cowboy

    As a Flames fan I think we can accommodate! Eberle plus 2014 1st.

    Before the tarsiers get on board don’t worry. Your leadership has proven they are not capable of pulling the trigger on a major trade. Read my lips…we do not want your garbage in return for a captain and top defenseman! Open your eyes McT….you will always be a sewer team unless you have the guts to give up some core assets!