HOW GOOD IS CONNOR MCDAVID?

There are two things most hockey fans agree on: Connor McDavid is a generational talent and the Edmonton Oilers shouldn’t be awarded another No. 1 overall pick. In the NHL, ‘fair’ doesn’t exist.

HOW GOOD IS HE?

Connor McDavid is so far beyond good the dictionary trembles to find the words. Consider his numbers in the OHL compared to recent No. 1 overall picks from the CHL in their draft seasons.

  1. Connor McDavid OHL 18GP, 16-35-51 (2.83 points-per-game)
  2. Taylor Hall OHL 57GP, 40-66-106 (1.86 points-per-game)
  3. John Tavares OHL 56GP, 58-46-104 (1.86 points-per-game)
  4. Steven Stamkos OHL 61GP, 58-47-105 (1.72 points-per-game)
  5. Nathan MacKinnon QMJHL 44GP, 32-43-75 (1.70 points-per-game)
  6. Nail Yakupov OHL 42GP, 31-38-69 (1.64 points-per-game)
  7. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins WHL 69GP, 31-75-106 (1.54 points-per-game)

That’s a breathtaking gap between McDavid and Hall. It’s incredible really. McDavid is so far ahead of the very best junior kids available going back several years it is to laugh. Amazing.

Your next question is probably ‘but how does he compare to Sidney Crosby in his draft year?

  1. Connor McDavid OHL 18GP, 16-35-51 (2.83 points-per-game)
  2. Sidney Crosby QMJHL 62GP, 66-102-168 (2.71 points-per-game)

Wow. It’s early, and Crosby did it over an entire season, but this is insane offense and the OHL is a great league! The numbers suggest Connor McDavid is a franchise-changer.

WHAT ARE THEY SAYING?

  • Ryan Kennedy, The Hockey News: “The boy genius. One scout told me he has the best hockey IQ he’s ever
    seen, others are saying he’s better than Crosby at the same age. An
    offensive juggernaut who makes insane plays at high speeds.” Source
  • Mike Morreale, NHL.com:
    “The injury in no way should or will change anyone’s opinion of this
    world class talent. I remember a conversation I had with Windsor
    Spitfires forward Joshua Ho Sang last spring before he was chosen late
    in the first round by the New York Islanders. I asked Ho Sang about his
    time spent with McDavid with the Toronto Marlboros minor midget AAA team
    in 2011-12. Ho Sang told me that everyone knows how gifted a player he
    is but no one ever seems to talk about his work ethic. Ho Sang said
    McDavid didn’t drop onto the Earth with all this talent, he truly worked
    at it. Ho Sang said he’s known McDavid since the age of 9 and feels his
    work ethic is what has gotten him this far and will take him to even
    greater heights in the future.” Source
  • David Gregory, Central Scouting: “McDavid never takes a shift off, and to be honest I believe may be
    the one to beat in the 2015 draft,” Central Scouting’s David Gregory
    said. “He’s stealth-like in finding open areas on the ice without the
    puck; he creates space for himself. He’s gotten even better at that and
    he’s continued to get stronger. I really believe he’s going to dominate
    this year.” Source 
  • ISS Scouting Director Dennis MacInnins: “Having the chance to scout Sidney Crosby at the
    same age, McDavid is even more impressive, true superstar potential.” Source 

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THIS DOESN’T FEEL RIGHT

I very much doubt the Edmonton Oilers are looking forward to securing the No. 1 overall selection. They have moved heaven and earth to turn north and nothing rhymes. In an extra bit of cruelty, the team finally has good possession numbers but their goaltending, coverage and power play have cratered.

It is impossible to even entertain thoughts of Connor McDavid as an Oiler.

And yet, we are here.



    • 24% body fat

      Torn between, Hanafin, Eichel and MacDavid

      MacD – Generational ’nuff said

      Eichel – Elite Power Center, could use one of those

      Hanafin – Potential Franchise D, I put him less than Ekblad but ahead of Jones

      Real Question is if we get number 3. Hanafin or Strome. Another LH dman or another LH center who is big. We want a 2nd Draisaitl or a 2nd Nurse

  • I am Christopher, a 6ft1 and 180 lbs 25 year old, My eyes are green, have sandy brown hair, and am currently working in sales. Love sporty fellas, hockey, American football, read alot and am a bottom looking for an agressive top.

  • BobbyCanuck

    Watched the last two games completely, we are not as bad as we think! Came close to winning both of them,, but some changes are in order:

    Trade Petry, because he will not be re-signing here
    Schultz is a disaster of a D-Man, trade him as well
    Trade Yak, because he will (should) not sign

    Trade Hall and Eberle if you can, at $6M each for forever, could be tough. I have known for a long time about Eberle’s short comings, but these two last games showed what Hall is all about as well.

    The above two, in my view were directly responsible for both losses, cut them lose, and carry on.

    Does not matter what we get in return, draft picks are fine, as we have our own junior team now. OilerNation and Tier 1 will be impressed about bold moves. This reportedly, is a very deep draft year, hit the reset button, look around the league, see all the teams which affected a 1-3 year total rebuild, it can be done

    Optics will be great, the whole league will think we are serious about NOT drafting McDavid, but due to our coaching, irrelevant whom we get out of all the above trades, our coach will mis manage it to the end, and presto! McDavid here we come

    btw, I enjoy this site a lot more than actually watching the games, informative, entertaining, wild sarcasm, and lots and lots of extremely know it all thin skinned fans. I figure about 60 trashes, any less…I would be disappointed

  • Serious Gord

    Picks up Brandy snifter,swirls contents,reclines with wry smile on face looking deeply into Fireplace,sighs remembers the 80’s.Remembers Rob Brown as teenager,chuckles,remembers Zarley Zalapski as a teenager and re-affirms belief that Fate is a very fickle thing. Sooner or later the sun shines on every Dogs arse.

    “In an extra bit of cruelty, the team finally has good possession numbers but their goaltending, coverage and power play have cratered”

    Maybe if they work really hard with Dellow they can find some ways to improve the Goaltending,coverage and power play,they seem to have done a great job with everything else.Then when the stats say these things are strong but we are still losing we can blame the aforementioned areas.

    Maybe the “possesion” part is giving the Coaches trouble,just go back to basics,fast-breaks and dump-and-chase,it might be refreshing for the players to just go back to bare bones basics System-wise to cler their heads.

    We arent gunning for McDavid,we will sell off our pick during the flurry of trades which are about to happen.

    • charlie manson

      A flurry of what trades. All the tough decisions will be made in the off season. We have too many issues to fix. Mac Ts last 17 months as GM has put us further in the basement. McDavid will save Mac Ts and Lowes job. Regardless we are still three years away from competing for the playoffs. Even if we make a big trade. We suck and no one is accountable for this mess. Stay thirsty my Oiler friends!!!!

    • YFC Prez

      So you’re saying you don’t like advanced stats based decisions eh? Thanks for clearing that up. lol

      “We arent gunning for McDavid,we will sell off our pick during the flurry of trades which are about to happen.”

      What makes you so sure of this. If anything the Kevin Lowe era has shown nothing but a willingness to tank and collect the next big prize at the draft. This season the top 2 prizes are the best they’ve been in ten years. I cannot imagine this oilers management not giving everything they have into acquiring one of Eichel or McDavid.

      Really what have they done up to this point to make you think otherwise?

      • Congo Powerarm

        There is a long term statistical record showing us exactly how the Oilers have played,we have a long term video library as well showing their System focuses.These are two very different things,and one does not predicate the other.The ‘System” any Oilers team has used does NOT produce their statistics,the INTERACTIONS between their System and others is what decides this and that is a dynamic set of actions there are no numbers involved.This is why certain elite players have favorite teams they destroy and they arent always the weakest ones,they just seem to fall apart when engaged a specific way.

        Kevin Lowe has been trying to win , hes just not good at pushing the river he is defensive to the core.

        I think anyone can be taught to play the game like Crosby or \Lemieux or Gretzky.

        I am not so impressed by them or their stats,it takes a specific type of mnagement process for ANYONE to produce numbers like they did and do.

        Ststistics are team results not individual ones.

        The reason it is hard to stop players like this is because they have support every second they are on the ice.

        If you only see the statistics you dont even know what the team is trying to do on a game by game basis.

        If you dont know what they are TRYING TO DO how the heck can you know what they are going to do or have done in the past?

        If you dont have System data on a Team you cannot even valuate optimal personell decisions,this is why Fans never seem to quite “get’ why specific player decisions are made.

        If a players isnt executing the proper System actions then the rest of their skillset is of no use to coach.

        You cant put round pegs in square holes.

        What the Oilers have been doing is mking MANY criticl core value System adjustments,they have been trying to dial in a specific System focus.Pat Quinn did this,Renney did this,Krueger did this and Dallas is doing this.

        Each of those Head Coaches has an individual resume of Oilers history.Each one has a CLEAR AND CONCRETE legacy of results we can review at any time.

        You need to start by asking yourself this,what “System” do the Oilers use? What “System OR Systems” HAVE they used in the last 2 decades.If you cannot map and chart each specific year and each specific System intention AND when those intentions change during the seson,then you have no way to valuate the Oilers Systems or even Player decisions or ice-time decisions.

        Why do you think you NEVER hear an NHL Coach discuss their System in the Media,it would be suicide,they would be taken apart.

        Systems data is held close to the vest,there in the past was no functional method or process for fans to gain systems knowledge,there were only statistics given to them to valuate with.

        Fans could not accurately valuate Coaching and Management decisions without Systems data to use as a baseline,this meant these people were eternally teflon,but they are not teflon anymore.

        No NHL Coach will tell you what he is TRYING TO DO,no way no how,how could he?

        If you understand the Systems adjustments during game it is easy to see what a Coach is trying to do.You dont look t what IS being accomplished you look at what they are TRYING to accomplish,and because scoring a goal is the only thing called sucess,it is easy to see what the men are trying to do out there.

        It takes NHL Coaches a career to learn to read opponents System intentions and to battle them back,but I have created a process that teaches anyone to do this easily.

  • YFC Prez

    Whose to say the Oilers would select McDavid with the first overall pick. After all, don’t forget our management is smarter than everyone else. There’s probably a Finn we haven’t heard of that they are high on. They must be high on something!

  • Randaman

    Oilers blow.

    I hate what Katz and his apathy have done to us!

    Fire them all, trade Yak, Eberle, Petry (because he’s not resigning anyway), Marincin & Schultz.

    Draft McKinnon and build around him, Hall, Nurse, Klefbom & Nuge.

    Throw big money @ Babcock and let him mold them into a real team.

  • Never give up hope!!

    Look I know this sounds bad, but if he really is the next Crosby, I have no problem with one more year riddled with losses. He so mind bogglingly good that I can suffer one more time, but in saying that, I doubt it would be that last time. On another note, why the hell do they keep sending Marincin down? He has consistently played better than Nikitin in my opinion.

  • Spydyr

    Who cares, Oilers would ruin his development. They ruin players.

    Get tired of hearing if we get playerXYZ then we will be good. No, 8 + years of the worst team in theNHL Oilers have serious problems.

    I’ve said it before if Oilers traded their team of the LA kings. Oilers would be be out of the playoffs.

    • The Last Big Bear

      Well said. We have all seen it for far too long. Many top draft picks (including 3 first overalls) and this team has made absolutely no progress. NONE !!!! We could add another 10 first overall draft picks and still there would be no progress with the current management. Until KBlowe is gone this team will continue to be the joke of all professional sports. It is more than obvious that the problems are due to inept management. One more top draft pick, regardless of how great cannot overcome the stupidity of this management group. Hoping for McDavid is helpless, hope for KBlowe to be a man and recognize that he has destroyed this franchise and must move on, the only way we can start to rebuild the team and our pride. The glory days have now been sully’d by the KBlowe management years. He has robbed this franchise of it’s pride. If Kblowe is still here it would be a shame to waste McDavid on this pile of shjt.

      • BobbyCanuck

        All roads lead to Rome.

        It is and has been a “process” as the Oilers currently like to call it issue,the other way of terming it is that it is a “Systems” issue.

        “Process”…”System”…you tell me the difference.

        Most Systems can handle accomodating ONE top tier NHL Talent,then they build around him,this is the traditional way,and it works,the Oilers problem has been that they do NOT grasp this fact.

        They might think that just stacking up skill and acumen will lead sucess,but getting 3 Tier one players to all produce optimally CANNOT BE DONE by a Trditionl System.

        The majority of Oilers players dont know HOW they produced sucess in the 80’s , Gretzky-Messier-and Sather knew,the rest of the fellas were on the outside looking in.

        Kevin misinterpreted what made the Oilers Teams he played on tick,he ONLY learned his defensive job and how that area of team mnagement worked,and it worked off of consistant structured execution,BUT BUT BUT this was not the OVERLL “process” it was only a small part of it,naturally K-Lowe thinks it was a large part of it because to him and the other d-men it WAS…they were not let in on the Systems Secrets,they were given a clear job to do and it was left at that.They were on a need-to-know basis.All the d-men needed to know was how to consistantly execute a base defensive System platform.The rest went over their heads.

        However this Dynasty System Management process has now been reproduced with the NewAge Hockey System and its Intuitive Dynamic Management and Intuitive Dynamic Analysis programs.

  • A-Mc

    The way the Oilers are currently managed. McDavid will be wasted on the Oilers. None of our other no.1s are even considered superstars outyside of of YEG. So why would he be any different?

  • D

    As a hockey fan, I would like to see McDavid in Buffalo or Philadelphia. As an Oiler fan, I would like to see McDavid’s agent make it clear to Darryl Katz that his just-drafted client will not sign with the Oil until a house cleaning occurs in management.

  • If we get McDavid like I’m hoping for (since the season is a bust already) they should trade yak. Having mcdavid hall nuge eberle and driasitil in the top six would be insane. I wouldn’t know how they keep all those players under contract. And with a top 6 like that go find veteran wingers and guys that have been to the playoffs and know how to work for it. Just imagine what a jarimor jagr would do with our young core. He would be the Adam Oates from 04 or whenever that was.

  • A-Mc

    For me the real question is: do the oilers keep McDavid or do they trade it for 2 high end established talents. The buzz on this kid is unlike anything before; I’m interested in what is offered for that 1st overall (which the #Oilers will sure get.)

  • bwar

    I really feel like he’s going to go to a team like Detroit who barely misses the playoffs. I just have a feeling the NHL will manage to dictate where the next big thing ends up. CONSPIRACY!

    • Derzie

      Let’s hope so. Terrible management should never be rewarded in any way. I sincerely hope he goes to a well run and deserving organization. Not the oilers.

  • Oilers4Ever

    I am crystal balling right now…………I can just see this.

    ” With their first overall selection, the Oilers select from the OHL Connor McDavid”…….”hang on folks, it seems Connor McDavid is shaking his head crying like a baby, he must be so happy to be selected first by Edmonton'”?

    Interview:

    “Connor how come you were overcome by being selected first overall “? ……….”well you see I cant wait to get ruined by this once proud franchise, very soon I will forget how to skate, shoot, pass, hit, score goals……being coached by Eakins, this guy want me to play in nets, does he know who I am”?

    Yea good times ahead!

  • Congo Powerarm

    I absolutely hope that we do not win the draft lottery and I’m a fan of the team. Why? The guys running the show do not deserve to have their bacon saved by the next Crosby falling in their laps… they simply do not deserve to be given any credit or enjoy any sense of satisfaction if and when this team does start winning games. And secondly, I just don’t think this player will help us that much, the problems with the team are management’s decision making, drafting, player development, free agent procurement, lack of accountability, culture and coaching to a lesser extent.

  • Spydyr

    Man I am not optimistic about the management team at all.. but if we get McDavid things are gonna change. Nurse is gonna be good with McDavid passing back to him on the PP. McDavid will change things.. We NEED goals. Now sign Boychuck to go with Nurse and watch The PP next year AND then fix the goaltending..

  • vetinari

    The poor bastard may end up an Oiler. I feel bad for him. But hey, we usually plug 18 year old centres into feature roles hope the best and that usually works out great, right?