Ben Scrivens Placed on Waivers

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The Edmonton Oilers have placed Ben Scrivens on waivers for the purpose of assignment to the Bakersfield Condors. RIP to this photoshop I made of the Oilers goalie tandem from last year. Things have changed, man.

With Anders Nilsson going a perfect 53 for 53 in the saves department I was wondering how or if the Oilers would be able to tell him he didn’t do enough to make the team. He did absolutely everything he could to make the Edmonton Oilers opening night roster and he earned the spot honestly. That’s not to say that Ben Scrivens played poorly during the pre-season. Scrivens stopped 52 of 56 shots for a .929 Save%. I’m sure this decision wasn’t made easily by Todd McLellan’s coaching staff, but a choice had to be made and they went with Nilsson. 

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To me, the most interesting thing about Scrivens being placed on waivers is the fact that it is another one of Craig MacTavish’s moves being undone by the new management team. Peter Chiarelli and Todd McLellan didn’t have to feel loyal to Ben Scrivens or Nikita Nikitin and they made the decisions they thought would be best for the Edmonton Oilers. As Jonathan Willis wrote yesterday, “This says a lot about the current administration, and a lot about the former regime.” A lot of those old players are being cleared out and that’s an indictment on MacT’s tenure as general manager. 

With Ben Scrivens on waivers for the purpose of assignment and Nikita Nikitin clearing waivers this morning, the Oilers will have sent $6.8 million in salary down to the AHL Condors. That’s a lot of bread to have riding the bus. It will be interesting to see how this turns out. Yes, Anders Nilsson did stop every shot he faced but on most nights he wasn’t looking at NHL competition. Can he keep the run going into the regular season? How much is he even going to play? We shall see.

EARLY REACTION

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OPEN LETTER TO BEN SCRIVENS

Dear Ben,

This is a letter that I didn’t want to write. I honestly thought that you were the goalie that was going to lead the Oilers back to the playoffs. Remember the night of the 59 save shutout? I’ll never forget it either. You were great despite not having much help as the San Jose Sharks threw absolutely everything they had at you. I’m sorry that you didn’t get much help in any of the games since. 

I never thought it would end this way, but we have to move on. Good luck, Professor. You deserve better than what you got on a lot of nights while playing for your home town.

Best,

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Baggedmilk

BEN SCRIVENS’ STATS AS AN OILER

SEASON TEAM GP W L T OT  SO  GA SA SV%  GAA  MIN
2013-2014 OILERS 21 9 11 0 1 62 741 .916 3.01 1,235
2014-2015 OILERS 57 15 26 11 1 170 1,542 .890 3.16 3,228
NHL TOTALS 129  42  56  17 7 345  3,648  .905 2.90 7,134 

    • Serious Gord

      Do please cite a better site that has better oilers dialogue in the comments section. Because as it stands now barring another site this is the finest oilers fan site in the entire universe.

    • chickenStew

      So, we are supposed to be civil on this site, and yet this poster cannot make a comment without using the term “idiot”.

      Notwithstanding his or her opinion, there is no way we should have to put up with the constant verbal abuse.

      What are you going to do about it, baggedmilk, Jeanshorts, Wanye, Willis, Gregor, Brownlee, Lowetide, Arch, ANYONE?
      If you don’t make an example, then you may as well flush this site down the toilet with the others before it.

      We all deserve a little respect for making this site the best Oiler’s forum there is.

      • mcjesus take the wheel

        I keep looking for intelligent well thought out commentary.

        All I find is herpa derp Mact! Durrr Lowe! Duhhh Eakins. Lolzzzz

        For every 2 intelligent posters there is 10 derp stars.

        I keep hoping to find intelligent oil fans but they are few and far between.

        • chickenStew

          You don’t look very goddamn hard do you?

          There is a lot of intelligent commentary here. You just see what you want to see, and take the opportunity to insult at every turn.

          No one has seen anything of substance from you, only insults, insecurity, immaturity, and hypocrisy.

          Your act is tired and shallow.

          I can only assume by your style, you are a kid. If you are not, then man, you have some growing up to do.

        • YFC Prez

          @”mcjesus take the wheel”,…. really ask yourself, are you that smart or just plain insecure?

          You won’t look more intelligent by putting other people down…it’s a fallacious concept.!!

          • mcjesus take the wheel

            And yet…all the derptards on here do all day long is put down Mact, Lowe, Eakins etc. guys that have paid their dues, are thought of as smart hockey people throughout the world. Take a look in the mirror before calling me out. Every second post here us about how much smarter the poster is than past management. Yet I’ve posted past comments from most of these posters supporting past management moves. Who is looking for attention? Those that just go with the flavour of the month? Or those that have a brain and can think for themselves like me. The vast majority on here are a bunch of yes men. I’ll use my own god given brain thanks.

          • bazmagoo

            I think everyone commenting on how Chia and the new coaching staff proved that you are not given a spot and must earn it by cutting Scrivens should check out Talbot’s save%

    • camdog

      What seriously goes through your head before posting stuff like this? What does it accomplish? You are the only poster in this current conversation who ISN’T contributing anything. So seriously, what the f’ck do you want? Make a point or go the f’ck away.

    • YFC Prez

      Never have I seen a man so desperately in need of a girlfriend.

      Use all that pent up aggression and go out and meet some ladies there guy. The internets are bringing out the worst in you.

  • gus1000

    Has everyone forgot we still have an AHL defense? It is improved a little bit, but not enough to help anyone we have in goal.

    How about that Nilsson couldn’t stick with the Islanders when they were desperate for goaltending?

  • ubermiguel

    Is Talbot/Nilsson the least experienced goalie tandem in the league? Everyone’s celebrating a career back-up and a KHL goalie backstopping the team? At least Scrivens was a proven NHL backup prior to last year. I hope Chiarelli’s right but I’m just not seeing it right now.

      • Johnnydapunk

        I guess what is nice to see though is that when the Oil said they were going to judge players on performance and not the past they weren’t messing about.

        The risk in net is there, but I am also thinking that since no goalie is signed past this season, it was always going to be like that. No one is guaranteed anything after this season, and if Nilsson does something similar to what Rämö and Bobrovskiy did (tough NHL start, then some KHL action and try again) Nilsson is worth the risk.

        If he is not so great, they don’t have to offer him a new deal, if he is not bad, they offer him a qualifying offer since he is RFA, and if he ends up being stellar, then they either sign him to real money or another team signs him with the Oil getting picks for compensation. I’m ok with those options.

        Nilsson could not have done anything more than he has, he stopped every puck in game situations (minus shootout or 3 on 3 which I don’t think counts-ish). He came prepared, and even more so as he had to deal with the adjustment of an NHL sized rink, Scrivens still had the same issues in preseason he has had in the past (scary puck handling, awkward saves from positioning, losing the puck in the blue paint) and he has had a chance to be that number one and he didn’t fix his issues.

        Nilsson prepared, Scrivens didn’t and that’s why Scrivens is on Waivers and Nilsson can keep his Oil coloured pads (though they may be his Isles gear)

  • Quicksilver ballet

    Ah, the soft underbelly of those correspondence masters degrees.

    One more goaltender sacrificed to mask the real issue (no top pairing blue liners in sight)here.

    • Wax Man Riley

      Nobody is masking the issue. The issue is front and center for all to see, and everybody knows it, including, and I assume, especially Chiarelli.

      There is no mask on it, but (and I’ve been telling you this for years)you don’t just come by a #1 D. Teams don’t give those guys away, especially in today’s NHL. you have to get one through development or free agency.

        • Wax Man Riley

          You know full well Chia was in on that, but Boston wasn’t doing it. th epackage was better than what Calgary was offering.

          Nobody said you have to sit around, but 29 other teams would have liked Hamilton too.

        • fran huckzky

          Yes you do. The Bruins lost their damn minds on that one and their management team should and will be fired in the next 12 months because of it. The flames lucked into that bass ackwards. To prove the point, Calgary didn’t even have the best offer of the day for him. Edmonton did. If those two things don’t tell you that’s a once in a decade brain dead mov by the B’s, nothing will. Don’t base your future trade market potential off of Sweeney or Melbury.

        • Wax Man Riley

          You know full well Chia was in on that, but Boston wasn’t doing it. th epackage was better than what Calgary was offering.

          Nobody said you have to sit around, but 29 other teams would have liked Hamilton too.

      • Quicksilver ballet

        Should’ve went harder after Ivan Provorov. That 8th selection wouldn’t have cost the moon. The russian Drew Doughty inside of 3 years. The Flyers brass were split on sending him back. He just about made the Flyers as an 18yr old.

        • Wax Man Riley

          this makes no sense….You said yourself, we don’t need more hopes and dreams…we need a #1 D. Provorov wouldn’t help.

          We already have a Nurse and Klefbom and Reinheart developing.

        • Wax Man Riley

          this makes no sense….You said yourself, we don’t need more hopes and dreams…we need a #1 D. Provorov wouldn’t help.

          We already have a Nurse and Klefbom and Reinheart developing.

          • Quicksilver ballet

            Don’t be putting words in my mouth to support your position.

            Hall, RNH, Yakupov and McDavid. All were drafted first overall but their success will reach very different levels. The only thing they have in common, is they were all drafted first overall. That’s where the similarities end.

            Nurse, Klefbom and Reinhart, Provorov will be better than all of them put together. Timing is everything.

  • As Jonathan Willis said yesterday, “this says a lot about the current administration, and a lot about the former regime.” A lot of those old player are being cleared out and that’s an indictment on MacT’s tenure as general manager.

    No. It’s not an indictment on MacT so much as an indictment on the goal of the Oilers organization, which guys like MacT were charged with achieving – that goal being collecting high draft picks.

    The Oilers have run out of rope as far as tanking goes and now have to operate like a team that considers “winning hockey games” at least somewhat important. We fall into McDavid and pretty much every smart move that we’ve been begging for over the past few years “magically” happens.

    MacT was spotted watching the game last night right beside Chiarelli. That doesn’t happen in a Nicholson-run organization if MacT isn’t considered at least somewhat competent.

    I’m not a MacT apologist by any stretch but this sucker’s narrative of organizational incompetence has led to the greatest collection of high draft picks in the modern era. You have to be damn good to be that bad and get away with it.

    • Serious Gord

      Yes. Anyone that doesn’t many moves under MacT and that other guy weren’t being guided by a team-tanking-draft-pick philosophy are blind.

      Tambelini (he’s that other guy) or Lowe had announced at some point they felt they had to build through the draft.

      The contracts up this year were tied to that plan. Connor threw a wrench into it and here we are trying to become competitive.

      Lots of MacT head-scratcher moves but many were tied to this plan. I’m not a MacT as GM supporter but he gets a lot credit around here than he deserves.

      I do hope he and PC work out well as a team.

    • mcjesus take the wheel

      You’re dreaming. It was incompetence supported by cronyism bankrolled by a sycophant. Were talking about Craig McTavish not Oliver North.

  • wiseguy

    This may be the final outcome from the MacT era.

    Can anyone explain why he remains the Oilers Vice President of Hockey Operations. Masochistic tendencies may be the reason, however it is no excuse.

    • fran huckzky

      Klefbom, Slepychev, Nurse, Yakimov, Drai,extra draft picks that allowed them to get Reinhart. These are some of the outcomes of the MacT era.Add Pouliot. Craig made a big mistake hiring Eakins but its time to recognize that he has contributed tons to the Oil org.

    • gus1000

      Every GM has people around him in which he will solicit opinions. MacT is being paid by Katz to offer opinions and advice. If you fire him, then Katz is paying another person to do nothing and will then pay a new person to do the same thing. MacT is a hockey guy (you can debate to which level of competency he has later) but he does offer a service to Chia and the organization.

      Katz didn’t make his billions paying people to do nothing. (He got it by using other people’s money to support his ideas. But that is also a topic for a different day as well).

    • cpetruk

      The only reason I can think is that Katz doesn’t have the stones to fire his two best friends/idols right before the impending “good times” and new arena. It doesn’t really matter though. MacT probably hears “Thanks for the suggestion, Craig, but I think we’re going to go another way.” from Chia on a weekly, if not daily, basis.

  • Soiled Trousers

    I feel bad for the guy. There is no way anyone can say he was set up to succeed last season. Crack T and the clown parade iced the worst defence in the history of hockey and let Scrivens get lambasted every night. I hope Scrivens can turn it around like Dubnyk. I don’t like to see the Oilers lose but I have to admit I enjoyed seeing Dubnyk give to Crack T prison style last year.

  • Wax Man Riley

    Jesus Christ. The same tired posters with the same tired commentary. What a bunch of idiot posters this site has.

    Your like the hypocrite who writes “only losers write on bathroom stall walls” on a bathroom stall.

  • M.O.O.G.

    Chiarelli keeps taking out the trash and every bag has Lowe’s name written all over it.

    Accountability is back. Roster spots are now earned not gifted. The new coach refuses to let players get away with being lazy and soft.

    Things are looking up. Go Oilers!

  • #97TRAIN

    Scrivens is Edmonton’s version of Tim Thomas. Unorthodox style, and had a never give up attitude. Unlike Thomas though the Professor was not that flakey .. . .thank goodness.

    However that unorthodox style was coupled with poor rebound control and he created complete chaos when handling the puck. Last year he seemed to let in the untimely goal or the “first shot goal” – when the team needed some momentum.

    I’ve seen Nilsson play – big, athletic and does not overplay the puck. What’s not to like here and a lot less riskier with the puck than Scrivens – that will translate to +5 to +10 GAA alone.

    Good Luck Ben.

    • Johnnydapunk

      Despite Thomas’ “quirky” political views, the only thing he shared with Scivens is an unorthodox style. Thomas did it the hard way, I mean he spent 10 years in the minors and in Europe before he made a comeback, I give credit where it’s due, he battled and not too many players did it his way. He also was a pretty good goalie as winning the awards treble (Conn Smythe, Vezina, and Stanley Cup) in one season (no one has done that since Parent) and another Vezina, and a 4 time all star. Add to that my geeky favourite of seemingly making his own mask and not caring about pad colours. If Scrivens can accomplish any of that in his career, I will be impressed.

      Now I’m not all on hating Scrivens, he came off as a pretty nice guy and I wish him the best with whatever happens to him, but I guess the part that irked me was that he had some seriously glaring issues in his game, and he had a chance to fix them and be a number one in his hometown, I don’t know what happened but he didn’t seem to address the issues as he still has them.

      He hasn’t shown me that he can be a number one, and maybe he will be a career backup, but I just thought he had an opportunity and didn’t take it. Maybe a Bakersfield or Norfolk (as his wife is playing near there) could be a chance to address his issues and come back at some point.

  • Strange Tamer

    Its amazing to see that accountability is not just a buzz word in Oil town anymore and is actually a real tangible thing. I love seeing a competent management team and coaching staff tossing out the former regime’s trash.

    Its even funnier to see the mainstream media actually applaud this as well and say I told you so, even though the majority were silent while the previous regime was in charge (except Staples and a few other instances). The mainstream media covering the Oilers in this town act like the little loud mouth at the bar chirping everyone while hiding behind the bouncer as he knows he is protected now.

  • Derzie

    Personally I am a fan of MacT & Lowe getting a front row seat for their dismantling. Well earned. That said, this is year one of a PROPER rebuild for the Oil. They have a plan it seems and have started on the journey. The plan, for once, is not to stockpile 1st overalls. Goals for this season should be to assess the players under the new system, leaders will emerge and moves will be made. My one and only beef is the coronation of the latest 1st overall before he even plays game one. Smacks of the past regime and their reliance on 18 year olds to get it done (right McJesus Take The Wheel?). The media sure isn’t helping.