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Can Patrick Maroon return a first-round pick?

The trade deadline is fun for fans of both good and bad teams. Good teams load up and trade assets to try and win, while bad teams sell off their pending free agents and look towards next year. The Oilers fall in the latter, and that could be very lucrative according to TSN’s panel of insiders.

TSN discussed Patrick Maroon and what the Oilers could possibly get for him on their Insider Trading segment.

Geno Reda: Some of the bigger trades that maybe are in the offing, Patrick Maroon, expiring contract with the Edmonton Oilers. What are they looking for in return?

Pierre LeBrun: Well, certainly I think there’s a belief that by the time they’re done on that front that if they do trade him that a low first-round pick is a possibility for the Edmonton Oilers and maybe that’s what they end up doing. However, I think if there’s a preference or a priority for Peter Chiarelli and the Oilers, it’s to get a top prospect. Someone who’s closer to making an impact on the Oilers roster as they try to make a quick turnaround next year and be a competitive team once again, and so there are certainly teams out there with an abundance of prospects I think that can do that for the Edmonton Oilers. One thing to keep in note: agent Allain Roy, the agent for Patrick Maroon expected to speak again with Peter Chiarelli over the next 24 to 48 hours. The door not totally closed on re-signing, but more and more you get the sense he will be dealt given the interest.

Darren Dreger: The Winnipeg Jets definitely interested in Patrick Maroon from the Edmonton Oilers and the Boston Bruins interested as well. I don’t think either team is really going want to throw in a first-round draft pick to acquire Patrick Maroon, but both teams most definitely have the young assets to be involved in that trade conversation. So, both Boston and Winnipeg playing close attention to what Chiarelli is doing.

This might be the best news Oilers fans have heard in a long time. Is Patrick Maroon getting a first-round pick? Apparently, a thing that could actually happen.

This would be a fantastic trade for the Oilers. Maroon’s played well since arriving in Edmonton, but there’s not many scenarios where he returns on a contract that makes sense for the Oilers. It’d have to be so favourable for Edmonton, which wouldn’t make sense for a player who is probably going to sign the biggest contract of his career.

Could Maroon really get a first at the deadline? Looking at the past trade deadlines, it might not be that crazy.

2012

Buffalo trades Paul Gaustad and a fourth-round pick to Nashville for a first-round pick.

Columbus trades Jeff Carter to Los Angeles for Jack Johnson and a first-round pick.

2013

Calgary trades Jarome Iginla to Pittsburgh for a first-round pick, Kenny Agostino, and Ben Hanowski.

Dallas trades Jaromir Jagr to Boston for a conditional first-round pick (Boston advances to the third round of the playoffs), Lane MacDermid, and Cody Payne.

Buffalo trades Jason Pominville and a fourth-round pick to Minnesota for a first-round pick, a second-round pick, Johan Larsson, and Matt Hackett.

2014

Buffalo trades Thomas Vanek to the New York Islanders for Matt Moulson, a first-round pick, and a second-round pick.

Tampa Bay trades Martin St. Louis to the New York Rangers for Ryan Callahan, a first-round pick, and a conditional second-round pick (pick becomes a first if New York advances to the third round of the playoffs).

2015

Edmonton trades David Perron to Pittsburgh for a first-round pick and Rob Klinkhammer.

Arizona trades Antoine Vermette to Chicago for a first-round pick and Klas Dahlbeck.

2016

Winnipeg trades Andrew Ladd, Matt Fraser, and Jay Harrison to Chicago for a first-round pick, Marko Dano, and a conditional third-round pick.

2017

Dallas trades Patrick Eaves to Anaheim for a conditional first-round pick (Anaheim advances to the third round of the playoffs).

Arizona trades Martin Hanzal, Ryan White, and a fourth-round pick to Minnesota for a first-round pick, a second-round pick, a conditional fourth-round pick, and Grayson Downing.

Apr 30, 2017; Edmonton, Alberta, CAN; Edmonton Oilers forward Patrick Maroon (19) celebrates after scoring a goal in the first period against the Anaheim Ducks in game three of the second round of the 2017 Stanley Cup Playoffs at Rogers Place. Mandatory Credit: Perry Nelson-USA TODAY Sports

Teams love giving up first-round picks for famous players. Jarome Iginla, Jaromir Jagr, Martin St. Louis, Thomas Vanek, Andrew Ladd all returned first-round picks. Both Iginla and Jagr were scoring at roughly 60-point paces. Andrew Ladd was below that with a 47-point pace. Vanek was moved well ahead of the deadline. Patrick Eaves, who might be Maroon’s best comparable, had a 51-point pace and was only making $1.15 million.

Martin St. Louis only wanted to go to one team and Steve Yzerman still got great value, although St. Louis had a year left on his contract.

David Perron was having a tough season in Edmonton but still had term on his contract. He was scoring at a 41-point pace when he was traded. Jason Pominville had term left on his deal, like Perron, and received two draft picks and two solid prospects at the time.

Vermette and Hanzal are both centres, but are scoring similarly to Maroon this season. Carter had a bunch of years left on his contract when he went to Los Angeles. Gaustad got a first from Nashville and he was on pace for 24 points. Centers have more value than wingers, but the Hanzal and Gaustad trades shows teams can go a bit crazy acquiring size.

Both Winnipeg and Boston would be intriguing destinations for Maroon. We’ve heard about the Tampa Bay Lightning’s interest, they have a bunch of forward prospects the Oilers could badly use, but the Jets and Bruins have some interested prospects in the system as well. A high-end prospect makes sense with those teams in the mix. The Oilers’ prospect pool is very shallow in terms of legitimate forward prospects. There’s not much of anything beyond Kailer Yamamoto and Tyler Benson, and nothing in Bakersfield right now.

There’s a lot of interesting prospects in Winnipeg’s system. Mason Appleton is having an excellent rookie season in the AHL. He’s also right-handed. Nicolas Petan or Brendan Lemieux would be good fits.

Boston has some young prospects of note in Providence. Jakob Forsbacka-Karlsson is a young, right-shot centre. Zachary Senyshyn was a former first-round pick, but isn’t scoring as much you’d like. Ryan Donato is a centre scoring well in the NCAA.

Maroon’s proven he can play with really good players. The big winger is on pace for 21 goals and 44 points. He’s looked great alongside Connor McDavid or Ryan Getzlaf, and that could be attractive to a team looking to add scoring depth. Maroon makes nothing compared to a Rick Nash. His $1.5-million cap hit should be enticing to a lot of teams that don’t have a bunch of cap space.

If the Oilers get a first-round pick or a top prospect for Maroon, they’ll have done very well at the deadline.

  • Hemmercules

    Get a prospect. Everyone knows they cant draft so a first round pick is probably wasted on this scouting staff. I cant see anyone giving up a first rounder for Maroon anyway and I especially cant see Chia pulling that off.

    • HardBoiledOil 1.0

      i think Maroon can indeed get a low 1st from a contending team, especially if the team acquiring him thinks they have a legit chance to re-sign him.

      • Hemmercules

        What leads you to believe Chia can pull that off?? His trademark is losing trades and teams are well aware the Oilers want to dump Maroon. I think at best he gets a second rounder. Hopefully a prospect that might be ready to play in a year or 2.

        • Kepler62c

          Please point out the other big, tough, 20+ G scorers with $1.5M who are available for trade… supply and demand man, there’s a lot of demand for “Eaves’ and Maroons” and not a lot of supply.

          • Hemmercules

            I still don’t see a first rounder coming our way. Maybe it happens but I’m working off Chia’s track record here. A good GM would probably get a good return for Maroon right now but then again a good GM probably wouldn’t be in this position.

    • TruthHurts98

      You’re correct. And he gave Perron to Pittsburgh considering he traded their 1st round pick to NYI for Griffin along with the second rounder which would have been Brandon Carlo. Management down to coaching is the worst in the league.

    • The Ghost of Alex Plante

      Yep, no way Chiarelli gets a 1st. I can pretty much guarantee he’ll be traded away for an underwhelming prospect because he pays a “fast and heavy” game or something like that. All that Adam Erne speculation last week; thats exactly the type of prospect Maroon will get traded for.

  • hagar

    If Maroon gets a first round pick the oilers should open a first round pick breeding farm.. just line up a bunch of average players, play them with Mcdavid for a few months, then trade them for first round picks.

  • Oil9744

    If you can get a 1st round pick for Maroon you take it, end of story, the way draft works now you never really know where your gonna end up with that pick, look at Philly and Jersey last season, they weren’t suppose to pick any close for 1st and 2nd but they did, If Edmonton get’s two first round picks they will have lots of ammo to trade for immediate help on the blue line and also draft a good player high in the draft.

  • toprightcorner

    Oilers should trade Maroon for a prospect instead of a pick. A late 1st round pick will likely be 2 years away before turning pro and then play 1-2 years in the AHL before he is ready for the NHL. 4 years for an NHL player is too long.

    Get a good young prospect who is currently having a successful season in the AHL, that player is not only likely to play in the NHL in a year, but they are ahead of 50% of late first round picks because they have had success at the pro level. I would also stay away frm college guys unless they are signed and currently in their last year of school.

    Oilers need young players forcing themselves into the NHL as quickly as possible. Yamamoto and Benson are still 1-2 years away from the NHL.

    My targets would be

    WPG
    Mason Appleton – RC – 51 games – 46 pts as AHL rookie
    Jack Roslovic – RC – AHL career – 97 games – 83 pts. NHL 15 games – 5 pts
    Brendan Lemieux – LW – 31 games – 28 pts 2nd year AHL – faster and more skilled than his dad and plays the same style

    BOS

    Zachary Senyshyn – RW – Last year in OHL – 59 games 42-23 – 65 pts. AHL rookie – 43 games 7-11-18 pts
    Jakob Forsbacka Karlsson – RC – 49 games – 28 pts AHL rookie

    WPG has a much deeper prospect pool so potentially easier to get a high end prospect from them.

    • crabman

      This is exactly why I don’t understand why some people are already calling Yamamoto a bad pick and will never make the NHL. Late 1st rounders are usually at least 3 years away from the NHL usually more. Being undersized I would treat him like most Dmen prospects and give him the extra time to develope. Nurse took 2 more years of junior before turning pro in his draft +3 and until this year to break out as a top 4 option. It was just last year that people were saying he was a bad pick and now he is playing like our best defenceman.
      Trading Maroon for an NHL ready prospect helps the team next year and in the near future but a late 1st rounder like you said is probably 3 to 4 years away.

  • Soccer Steve

    Everyone here is slamming the GM for (a) trade(s) not yet made. And that’s right, he deserves it to a point. But if you look back, he is actually rather good at these smaller trades. I do believe we’ll all be pleasantly surprised in a week or whatever it is. He’s not stupid, Pete knows he HAS to home-run each of the 2 to 3 trades he’s going to make.

    • Oil9744

      He traded a high 1st rounder and a very high second rounder for an AHL defencemen who’s not even in the NHL anymore 3 seasons later, he doesn’t win trades, he over pays for everyone, the only trades he has done well in Edmonton are for Maroon, Talbot, Kassian, that’s it, but those Trades don’t make up for the Hall, Eberle, Reinhardt, trades, plus his over paying contract to Lucic and Sekera are brutal. He better hit a home run this trade deadline and offseason or he’s gone.

      • Soccer Steve

        You’re comment made me interested so I did some looking.

        Actually, his free agent signings are usually quite good. His little trades are often very good. The big trades he’s almost lost every single one – Kessel being the outlier.

  • arab05

    If they do trade for a first ideally they would trade with a team on the bubble. Then hope they miss the playoffs turning that first round pick into a lottery pick and increasing the chances to draft in the top three spots.

    • Green Meanie

      A good GM would lottery protect that pick. The only GM that would be foolish enough not to lottery protect a pick like that would be PC. Worst GM ever. No faith in his trading ability or talent evaluation. Need to fire the lot of them from the GM down. Pathetic and embarrassing organization.

    • Kepler62c

      The pick would likely be lottery protected if it’s with a bubble team – i.e. Condition that the team makes the playoffs or it becomes a 2nd, or the next years 1st or something.

  • Johnny Zylon

    Ha! Oilers GM get a first rounder for Maroon? Maybe if the other GM is worse than Chia at being a GM or is hammered. Even if they do get a first round pick they’ll just draft another Steve Kelly or Jason Bonsignor

  • Johnny Zylon

    If the management had any dignity they’d trade Letestu and Maroon for cash and give it to the season ticket holders that had to suffer through this cluster puck of a season. It really doesn’t matter at this point Oiler management have proven one zillion times they have no clue as to what they are doing.

  • Semenko27

    We should hold on to him and trade him plus whatever we end up with for a first rounder at the draft for the number one overall. If we are picking in the first round it has to be at number one rite?

  • Spiel

    What the Oilers actually need is a goalie prospect that is close to NHL ready. If Talbot repeats his performance from this season, it won’t matter how many young forward prospects the Oilers have.

  • Finnaggled

    you guys just love to be angry, im not a chiarelli fan at this point, but he does have a very solid track record of winning the small deal. its the big deals that he falls on his face.

  • Ever the Optimist

    OK I get it, everyone hates Chia right now. The one area I will defend him in is his actual drafting since coming to edmonton …. Jones, Bear, Marino and Paigin were all good picks. Puljujarvi, Benson, Niemelainen and Berglund all have value and last year saw Yamamoto, skinner, samorukov, safin and maksimov to continue addressing the weak areas in our prospect pool. Prior to edmonton I was impressed by his draft record in the first round …. not so much with past that however. With a possible 9 picks in the upcoming draft there is ample opportunity to fill out the ranks for prospect depth.

  • Sir Dudeinstein

    Hello there,
    I think I have this all figured out, why not trade Maroon and Edmontons first round pick in 2018 to Las Vegas for Griffin Reinhart. I mean the scouting staff on the Oilers are probably still high on this guy and they had the hard decision to protect him so he must be worth it right?

  • Top_Shelfie

    Heres an idea, lets make MacT the Head of Scouting. The same guy who said the Justin S. Is a Norris Trophy shoe-in. The future is less bright as each day passes.
    Go Top-Shelf!