The Oilers Trade Taylor Hall to New Jersey

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Wait… let me compose myself. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! *faints* The Oilers have reportedly traded Taylor Hall to New Jersey straight across for Adam Larsson.

Taylor Hall has been traded to the New Jersey Devils straight across for Adam Larsson. From where I blog, I’m going to go out and say that this has to be one of the worst Oilers trades in the history of the franchise. As a straight up deal this is absolutely terrible. Taylor Hall is one of the best left wingers in the NHL and Adam Larsson is currently a second pairing defenseman, and, frankly, there’s no way to spin this in the Oilers favour. Chiarelli grossly overpaid for a right handed defenseman. Full stop.

Aside from writing hate filled letters to Chiarelli’s office I’m trying to hold out hope that he’s not done yet — it’s the only thing that will keep me from thinking that Chiarelli has lost the plot. Even so, Adam Larsson isn’t a top 20 defenseman in the league and Chiarelli felt the need to move one of the best left wingers in the league for him. The pressure on Larsson coming in to this season will be astronomical, and I find it hard to believe that he will be able to live up to the billing of being the guy they traded Taylor Hall to get.

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ADAM LARSSON SCOUTING REPORT

From HockeyFuture.com

Upon first glance at his numbers, one might not be overly impressed. But there is much more to Larsson’s game than numbers. He is a workhorse, capable of logging major minutes in all situations. He has played with uncommon poise for a player of his age in a league against men in the Swedish Elite League the past two years. Simply put, there aren’t very many holes in Larsson’s game. He is the complete package, capable of taking over a game with his size, skating and elite two-way skills. He’s likely not going to ever contribute elite offensive numbers from the backend, but he is more than capable of rushing the puck end-to-end, making great stretch passes with his superb vision and unleashing a hard and accurate point shot.

From Last Word on Sports

Adam Larsson’s situation is very much a lesson on how to develop players. The young gun stepped into the NHL at the age of 18 after two solid seasons playing in Sweden’s top league. Confidence is always crucial, but to a youthful player, it’s everything.  Newcomers to the NHL are going to make mistakes, and they are especially glaring if they are playing defense or goaltending. Punishing players for every single error is counterproductive, especially in the modern NHL where teaching and communication are key.

For New Jersey, their defensive core is shaping up nicely thanks to Larsson, Merrill, Gelinas and Severson. If all goes well in their development, the Devils have the makings of a very good blueline. Adam Larsson may not be the flashiest guy, or put up the numbers that some expected him to, but his game has become so much more than that. Being trusted to play big minutes every night against the top players in the game is no small feat, and teams crave individuals like that. The 22-year old defenseman has the tools, and now the confidence, to be a top defender — now it’s time for him to prove it.

ADAM LARSSON’S STATS

Season Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM +/- GP G A Pts PIM
2011-12 New Jersey Devils NHL 65 2 16 18 20 -7 5 1 0 1 4
2012-13 Albany Devils AHL 33 4 15 19 24 -1
2012-13 New Jersey Devils NHL 37 0 6 6 12 4
2013-14 New Jersey Devils NHL 26 1 2 3 12 -1
2013-14 Albany Devils AHL 33 3 16 19 16 2 4 0 0 0 2
2014-15 New Jersey Devils NHL 64 3 21 24 34 2
2014-15 Albany Devils AHL 1 0 2 2 0 1
2015-16 New Jersey Devils NHL 82 3 15 18 77 15
NHL Totals 274 9 60 69 155 5 1 0 1 4

  • McDavid's Comet

    This trade has K. Lowe and Mac T shtank all over it. I never thought Peter Charrelli would come to Edmonton to be a marionette for those BUTT-F**KS. I guess money buys no integrity.

  • Ed in Edmonton 1

    The market has spoken and its fair to say that Hall’s value is considerably less than many of us (myself included) would have pegged it.

    Is his value lessened because of an ‘attitude” problem? well there has been a continuum of criticisms of the leadership of the Oil over the last number of years. Teammates (Hemsky when he left, Ferrence after a particularly poor performance), coaches (Ruff, Maclellan)?

  • Hockey Buddha

    Hall was my second favorite Oiler player. I certainly don’t like giving up Hall, but I knew this summer was going to be painful. With the possibility of signing Lucic a couple of days away, the writing was on the wall for a Taylor Hall trade. I do like Larsson as a player and think that he is a good acquisition who will help the team immediately. I’m thinking that the Oilers must be fairly confident in their ability to sign Milan Lucic.

    Positives in this deal:
    The Oilers have helped to partially fill a gaping hole on right defense, one that needs to be mended, or this team will stay in a holding pattern as a cellar dweller.

    I’m reasonably confident that Chiarelli knew the lay of the land and turned over all stones before making this trade.

    Considering that Subban went for Shea Weber. The Oilers could not have entered that trade from either side. They do not have a comparable defenseman.

    Larsson is young and will develop with this young team. He is signed to a good contract, long-term, “Larsson has a cap hit of $4.166 million and is signed through 2021” (Lowetide.ca).

    The Oilers would have a difficult time paying Subban’s $9M and their other stars in years to come. Weber’s contract is for another 10 years at $7.8M. Weber is 31. Subban is 27. Larsson is 23.

    I’ve also read in a few different places (with data that is a few years old) that approximately 68% of NHLers are left-handed. I’m not sure how accurate this data is, or if it is precisely true today, but I think it is fairly safe to say that left-handed players are far more abundant in the NHL than right-handed players.

    Personally, given the Oilers’ abundance of left wingers, this deal makes more sense than trading a centre. Centre is a far more difficult position to acquire, and it is a more important position.

    Hall is close to being peak value. Many of our other young players are not.

    Trading Hall for Larsson frees up almost two millon a season for acquiring UFAs.

    Final Comments
    We have some left wing depth and the deal has to be looked at as part of the bigger picture of the team.

    I will reserve judgment on this deal and look at the overall picture of the team at the end of the summer. This trade hurts, but it could make the team better when all is said and done.

    • McRib

      “I’m reasonably confident that Chiarelli knew the lay of the land and turned over all stones before making this trade”

      Multiple NHL executives have already gone on record today to say they would have offered more for Taylor Hall… Larsson is a fine second paring defender, but plain and simple they could and should have gotten more for Hall.

      I mean Travis Hamonic could easily have been had for the same price and a good pick, NYI is looking desperately for a winger to play with Tavares now that Okposo is gone. By the sounds of it no stone was turned.

        • McRib

          “Where did you hear this?”

          Multiple reports of such from unnamed NHL Execs on Twitter. For example:

          Travis Yost “Team executive just told me he would’ve packaged two future first-round picks and a ~ P2 defender for Taylor Hall as a starting point.”

          • McRib

            You don’t have to believe the source. Not trying to change people’s opinion of a specific source or person, but the timing of the trade just seems rushed as well and speaks to the numerous sources coming forward on Twitter and in the Media. Honestly though why make this trade so early in the summer? You have all offseason to listen to offers and find the best suitor. Teams are only going to get more desperate later in the summer when they don’t “land the Free Agent” they wanted after July 1st. Especially after news Stamkos broke today. Peter Chiarelli could definitely have done more due diligence before pushing the trade button.

            I don’t mind Larsson and it is absolutely what the Oilers need (probably need a couple more, but it’s a start). If you are fine with the return then that’s fine, but the majority of people in Hockey feel they should and could have gotten more. I mean everyone I know said the same thing to me today, as we were all waiting for the trade to become official so we found out what else Edmonton was getting.

          • McRib

            I already have on this exact same thread on previous page (just google search Taylor Hall not hard to find) and I would continue to post more, but people will just continue to do the same thing as was previously done “oh that source is just nonesense, person is not credible, yadda yadda yadda…” Honestly Execs are coming out of the woodwork left, right and centre to say they weren’t even contacted before Chiarelli pushed the button. Just ask yourself this imagine what Hall’s value would have been tomorrow after we had found out Stamkos was locked up today and off the market or if Edmonton waited until July 2 when every other good FA Foward was off the market to then make a deal for Hall. Trade value would have gone through the roof, this trade was rushed you can believe it or not. This trade is likely not going to be a complete disaster like some on Twitter suggest, but Edmonton could absolutely 100% have gotten more for Taylor Hall. Anyway that’s it for me tonight.

          • '68 Fire Chicken

            Teams get less desperate as summer moves on. Thats why we dont see a ton of trades after August. Rosters set for fall and GMs are planning TCs.

            29 other GMs know we need D and we have Hall Ebs and Nuge. Whi do you think they want ? No one is calling for Yak.

            Hall won us nothing. He won nothing while here. We need D. Badly.

            Drai, Ebs, Nuge, Pulijarvi, and bloody McD up front. So long Taylor.

            New Jersey can have that pouty spoiled brat. Notice how professional Hall has been since the trade broke….. Self entitled whiner…… good riddance.

          • Ned

            You always here this nonsense after a big trade is made. No proof of this whatsoever. Anyone who believes that Chiarelli and the Oilers didn’t turn over every stone before making the trade are flat out wrong. Period. They knew the market and decided Larsson was the best choice. Now whether he is or isn’t the best choice is questionable, but without a doubt the Oilers new full well what all of their options were before making the deal.

          • Ned

            You always here this nonsense after a big trade is made. No proof of this whatsoever. Anyone who believes that Chiarelli and the Oilers didn’t turn over every stone before making the trade are flat out wrong. Period. They knew the market and decided Larsson was the best choice. Now whether he is or isn’t the best choice is questionable, but without a doubt the Oilers new full well what all of their options were before making the deal.

          • McRib

            This is a ridiculous comment (obviously it’s Staples). It’s not Chiarellis responsibility to call all potential suitors and ensure he can’t find another better offer?!?!? Other GMs aren’t mind readers…

  • I think he has a legit shot at cracking 35 points this year. He has proven he has offensive upside in the NHL already when he had 24pts in 64 games 2 years ago. Last year his numbers fell to 18pts in 82 games but his partner was Andy Greene and he was also on one of the worst scoring teams in the league. He is very good defensivly too. It was obvious that Hall and McDavid were in a power struggle for who gets the puck and im sure all of us would’ve kept McDavid

  • Oil City Roller

    I have been saying it for years and I will say it again. The Oilers will suck for as long as Lowe and MacT are involved. Call it Karma, call it comeuppance for years of narcissistic arrogance, call it idiots meddling in the decisions of this club. I have been berated and banned for my opinions but the facts remain. Lowe and MacT are constants in this bizarre spectacle of a hockey team. People can flap their gums all they want about Chia being in charge but today shows that the clowns are still running the circus.

  • Randaman

    I know everybody is in utter disbelief but let’s not throw Larsson under the bus because we’re upset.

    Chia really seems to feel strongly about him. The NJ players that have spoken up couldn’t believe he was traded. They call him a stud that plays hard and all the tough minutes and match ups. Sounds like something we need

    I will miss Hall a lot. I have a basement wall full of #4 memorabilia. Such is life.

    I am hoping for what I think is coming on Friday (Lucic) and don’t want to go off the deep end quite yet but I understand all the bitterness.

    The sun will be up tomorrow

  • madjam

    With Gazdik and Hall gone that leaves Conner with no one to board with and cook his meals . Conner stays back home and demands a trade . Chia says no problem you can stay with me like Crosby and Lemieux did , and he’ll even cook his meals for Conner .

    • Masma

      that’s why you are all upset , just because you get to play GM on your Xbox doesn’t make you a GM in real life. the market has spoken oilers players are not as valuable around the league as you thought

      you guys think Chia didn’t try to get a top pairing D ? this was as close as he probably could. if there’s 20 top 1 defencemen a big IF why would teams wanna get rid of them for over paid wingers? wingers are easier to get than top defenceman

  • Moneyball1976

    Even if Larsson can be a #1D in the league the possibility of that occurrence has just dropped by a lot. The pressure to perform like a #1 will always be there and if he hasn’t been able to show that he is the next Pk Subban or Drew Doughty in his 5ish years in the NHL so far, so chance are very high that he will not turn into one here in Edmonton. Regardless you don’t trade current value for future value unless that future value is very very certain. Here there is no certainty with Larson. Larson is a good hockey player but not near a great player nor will he ever be. Chances are just as good that he flames out than he excels. Taylor Hall will be inducted into the Hockey hall of Fame, Larsson may be put down into the minors this year. To me this looks like kind of a beefed up Nikitin deal for the Oilers.

    The only conclusion one can draw is that the Oilers wanted to get rid of Hall for other reasons. Poor defense, no back checking, poor attitude in the dressing room…. I have no idea. The only other thing I can come up with is that the other GM’s do not like dealing with Chiarelli? We kind of saw that last year when we got scooped for a Dman to Calgary by his old team the bruins.

    I don’t know…. very frustrating and there is no way that this will ever go down as a good trade. Larson is just not a grade A defencemen is not even close to what hall could have been traded for. Even the bad deals I saw online this past week were way better than this one.

    Thanks for the venue to rant!

  • bazmagoo

    Hall’s a great player but if we are landing Lucic then he’s expendable. It’s the McDavid effect, better take advantage while it’s here. If Connor didn’t show up, we’d be hooped. Let’s all keep our fingers crossed Milan signs and Larsson turns into a stud dman.

  • Old Timer

    Looking forward to Jan.12, 2017
    A standing O for the return of #4. Let’s show him how much we appreciated his effort game in and game out. Good luck Taylor. Wishing you nothing but the best.

    • bazmagoo

      Spectacular player. I think KLowe and MacT should be ashamed they let him down so badly. Taylor was a loyal player, soldier during some pretty dark years. Best Oiler player for 5 years, until McDavid.

  • SLURVE

    I was in shock the first time I read the headlines regarding Hall for Larsson in a one for one deal with Devils. Right now, number-wise, the Oilers came up less (but not by a large margin) in value but I see this to be a win next season. Now I can understand this was truly the bold move the Oilers had envisioned. It takes big balls to follow this through by Chiarelli trading a top 5 winger before his prime for a dman in Larsson who was picked 4th overall. I always had a great respect in the Sweden development system of their dmen and that they can be so highly skilled and matured a lot faster.

    Larsson is a young dman with so much upside and potential. Under the ex-Deboer, he did not developed progressively fast but after Deboer left the Devils, Larsson was allowed to developed. He played his best year last season as top line shutdown dman. With the Oilers his game will evolved into more offence type of player. He is already an excellent puck mover and strong along the boards.

    “Before I moved to North America I was only offence but here you have to be extremely good to just do that. It’s a two-way game. I want to grow into my offence, though,” said Larsson, who was the tag-teamer with Greene in Jersey. “I think I played one game without Andy. We tried to shut down the other team’s first lines. But I think my game has improved. I want to thank (coach) John Hynes, helping me take the next step. I’d like to take the step to more offence in Edmonton… they’ve got a deadly team. I feel I’m a good fit for that team.” -Adam Larsson as quoted form Edmonton Sun.

    Lets face it, when looking for a certified no. 1 dman, teams will not deal them away easily if at all. If so, more than likely, Hall would not be the player going. It may include Nurse or Klefbom. So I am certain Chiarelli if met with a better deal without trading Hall, he would have grab the chance.

    Chiarelli, the bravest GM dealing both Taylor and Tyler, has my respect and I do believe in him and his perception of the trade. I cannot wait until the season starts with a new well balanced team. I and like many others believe Lucic will be an Oiler come July 1; or else Hall would not be traded (that quickly)…

  • The Trade Really Jolted Me , but let’s warm up to Mr Larsson :

    Skellefteå AIK[edit]

    The 2009–10 Elitserien season turned out to be a spectacular breakthrough season for Larsson. He scored two goals in an Elitserien game against Timrå IK on October 15, 2009.[3] By the end of the season, Larsson had tied the single-season record for amount of points in Elitserien among defencemen under the age of 18, 17 points, a record that was set by Tomas Jonsson in 1977–78, who compiled eight goals and nine assists in 35 games.

    Larsson fought Timrå IK forward Daniel Corso in a game on November 2, 2010, receiving a cut eyebrow during the altercation. Larsson commented that he kept his gloves on because removing them during a fight in Elitserien leads to an automatic one game suspension.[4] Although Larsson didn’t remove his gloves, both he and Corso were suspended for two games and received fines as a result of the fight.[5][6]

    Larsson’s play in the 2010–11 season earned him a nomination for the Elitserien Rookie of the Year award,[7] but Mattias Ekholm would eventually win the award.

    New Jersey Devils[edit]

    Larsson was selected in the first round, fourth overall,[1] by the New Jersey Devils during the 2011 NHL Entry Draft. Seen as a move towards rebuilding the Devils defence corp, Larsson was rated by the NHL Central Scouting Bureau as the top European prospect available in the 2011 Draft.[8] Larsson, who has been compared to the Detroit Red Wings’ defenceman Nicklas Lidström, signed a three-year, entry-level contract with no bonuses at the NHL maximum of US$925,000 per year with the Devils on July 15, 2011. He made the team in training camp and became the first 18-year-old defenceman to dress for the Devils in the regular season since Scott Niedermayer in the 1991–92 season, only the sixth under-20 defenceman to play for the Devils, and the first 18-year-old defenceman in the NHL since 2008, when Drew Doughty, Zach Bogosian and Luke Schenn all made their NHL debuts.

    Larsson’s first NHL goal was scored on November 11, 2011, on a slapshot from the right slot against Tomáš Vokoun of the Washington Capitals.[9] He was selected to the NHL All-Star Rookie SuperSkills Competition on January 12, 2012, along with teammate Adam Henrique; however, he chose to pull out due to a minor injury. He was replaced by Montreal Canadiens rookie defenceman Raphael Diaz.[10] On May 1, 2012, Larsson scored his first Stanley Cup playoff goal against the Philadelphia Flyers in Philadelphia in his first career playoff game, becoming the first Devils rookie defenceman to score a goal in his first playoff game.[11]

    Following the 2014–15 NHL season Larsson became a restricted free agent under the NHL Collective Bargaining Agreement. The New Jersey Devils made him a qualifying offer to retain his NHL rights and, on July 5, 2015, Larsson filed for Salary Arbitration.[12]

    On July 25, 2015, New Jersey Devils re-signed Larsson to a six-year extension, worth US$25,000,000.[13]

    Edmonton Oilers[edit]

    On June 29, 2016, Larsson was traded to the Edmonton Oilers in exchange for Taylor Hall.[14]

  • TS

    I agree, Larsson looks awful when you use points, stats from 2014-2015, and opinions from 2 or 3 years ago as your basis for evaluation. But why don’t you try something from this Spring, like http://www.allaboutthejersey.com/2016/2/12/10974744/new-top-dog-adam-larsson
    Combined with the facts that in NJ Larsson only got 20% offensive zone starts, no pp time, and had a generally weak set of forwards to play with in a heavily defense-first system.